 2023 genera elections. Do not die in their war. With the obvious decline in the standard of living and exodus of Nigerians to other countries in recent times, one may be tempted to forgive the vituperation that has bitter the election season. After all, it is often said that desperate times call for desperate measures. However, it appears that we have not learned our lessons from previous elections. Our approach in this election cycle is not different from what played out towards the 2015 general elections, when it was believed that the running party at the time had grossly underperformed and should be changed. So the campaign mantra was change. Everyone clamored for change was obviously angry and couldn't wait to see the march touted change manifest. Even when a few camped ones amongst us cautiously asked, what if the desire changed? It's just a flash in the pan. It was widely crossed that if the change didn't seem like it, would we change the change? Well, those of us who are alive now can attest to it if the change has served us well. Meanwhile, we are at the threshold of history once again, and we seem not to be different in our approach. The hunger with which many are showing their support for their preferred candidate is uncalled for. The hatred they have for those with other choices is undemocratic. Some of us need to be reminded that we practice democracy. We are at liberty to have divergent opinions and have different political meanings. Our choices, however, do not make us more Nigerian than other Nigerians. The biggest fear in what is playing out presently amongst Nigerians is that we have been divided beyond electoral choices. In the bid to enforce our choices on others, we have been torn apart along ethnic and religious divides. And if the goal is to achieve a better Nigeria, we need to respect people's choices and do not allow the politicians to use us as pawn in their game. The 2023 elections will be won and lost even if your preferred candidate doesn't win. Ensure you don't lose valuable friendship along the way. The politicians are wiser in this regard. They always find a way out. Today, it's a friendly war. Do not die in their war. You said it all. Change the change. Next level. Unify nice obedience. You said it all. We should not die in our election. Let's come to election with the spirit of sportsmanship. You come say why we should convince us why we should support your candidate. If we decide to support your candidate good and fine, if we don't support your candidate still good and fine, whatever the outcome is, our focus should be the Nigeria. The country is for us. We are in this country. We are the country. The country is not just the geographical location. We are safe at the country. If you have a geographical location with no people, there is no country you get. So forget about all these gimmicks or what these tactics from politicians. The question is who has the nation at large? Exactly. So just to add to what you have said. So you've actually said a lot of things in your presentation. I will look at it like I already say is an individual politics, not the country at heart. Let's imagine Peter will be this obedient driver of a thing. He was last year a member of PDP. If the zoning has favored him to zone the election to the presidential candidate to southeast, will he have lived PDP? Perhaps not. Perhaps not, right? So what's stopping from saying if I'm not the candidate, why don't I join and testify for the interests of the people working with the party's preferred candidate if the party is first, not an individual, I mean first. Do you understand? The same thing goes to the interests of the likes of Tinubu, the likes of Attiku, the likes of every other candidate we have there. Is it the party, you know it comes back to the same party ideology. What do they have to offer? What is the party actually bringing to the table? If you look at let us quickly go back to South Africa, there is this parliament senator that is leading, I say this is my party. If you are asking me to drop the party ideology and the party says go otherwise. I'm afraid I will resign as the party's preferred candidate because the party is going against the value they have set. That is what we should be looking at. Beyond the election, what are the aftermath of this election process? What should we expect? Is it a candidate or is it a result that we desire? I think a common factor that has always played out in our elections is the kind of hunger in the electorates. And so I think the hunger, most of the time blind us to see the real reason why we are picking a different candidate from who is in government. So there are consequences and then after taking that decision we just leave everything to God that God will help us. And like they said in the build-up to 2015 election, they said if the change does not manifest, it will change the change. What are you able to change the change? In the last seven years we have not been able to change the change. So the question that we preach here is that even as you take a choice, as you make a choice in this election, your choice of candidate does not mean you are more Nigerian than the other Nigerians. Everybody wants the better conditions for this country. So let us all take our choices and then work towards it. When you are conversing for votes and sure you are doing it with all the coral, that is the message. I would like you to know something. I don't know whether you observed some couple of minutes ago that was this particular clergyman. I'm not going to mention the church. He was trending on social media and he was saying that he is a Ruba man. He can vote for someone from another tribe. I was like this is a clergyman saying this thing. He is not supposed to say this because I want to believe there are other people from other tribes in this church. He is not supposed to say that. So Kuti, what is your thought on this thing? The 23rd election is coming and I don't want to use the word headache per se. Nigerians are having sleepless nights over this thing and it's very important to us because whatever happens next year decides the fate of Nigeria. Absolutely. Well for me, I think again, we keep on repeating the same mistakes. I think 2023 is looking like 2015 over again. It's as if Nigeria suffers from a savior complex. We are always looking for one savior to come and solve all Nigeria's problems. And I keep on explaining to people and that is what causes the anger and the disaffection amongst us because once one person from a particular tribe shows up, the other people from this tribe will start building a narrative that this is the best candidate. If you don't support him, you are a traitor. It's this same savior complex. And I keep on telling people that you cannot rely on a man, a single individual with a good heart to change the nation like ours. Not after what we've gone through, not after the civil war, not after the division of the last seven years. I think that the reason why people are always angry is because every time an election comes, anger blinds us to not to see the clear path. Look at Buwari for instance in 2015. It was clear from his history in 1983-84 that the man had nothing to offer and he had improved himself over the last 30 years. But people still felt they said all sorts of things before he won the election. Oh Buwari has an evil poop. Buwari has a tribalized Buwari. He doesn't have a house anywhere apart from Kaduna and Darura, which were lies. And even when people put the truth in front of them, they refused to see the truth because they were driven by this anger, which is what I've seen again repeating itself. And I think that Nigerians just need to take a step back. Like I said, whoever wins the election, we're all going to survive together. People will say we are left Nigerians, we are no longer Nigerians, but it affects me. But I always tell them that it affects me because the pressure from Nigeria or me right now is a hundred times what it used to be four years ago, five years ago. And for me, I always say that all I'm asking people to do is allow others to interrogate you and you interrogate the candidates themselves. Somebody tells you it's innocent, it's pure. There's no human being that's perfect. Don't bother about those things. Focus on what they can do and what they're telling you that they will deliver on. I think that's why they talk about this idea of an issue-based campaign and it's for a deliberate reason. Well, it's true anyway. Any politician or anybody can decide to attach to any political organization or association of their choice. The most important thing is let's have the nation at hand. Let's have the nation. It's not a crime to be a member of EPC or support EPC. Neither is it a taboo to support PDP. Neither is it out of order to be a member or support liberal party and other parties. But whatever thing you do, don't fight yourself. Let's see that we are one Nigeria, one country, one people. The goal is to change Nigerian positionals globally, not to kill ourselves before the next election. Exactly. Just in addition to what you said, Kuti said something the other time where he said what drives people to be more of a patriotic citizen is a system that cares about its citizenry. We should also be clamoring because I don't see very few people who are not so much popular are talking about that kind of system. The political presidential candidates that we have in PDP episodes they are not talking about PDN system. I think this should be our concern of a system that will make us verge and want to die for the country. Building institutions. Building institutions. Stronger than individuals. At all sectors. That's my own take. I think the message is clear from all our contributions. After this election, there was still been Nigeria and we need to do everything and put out our behaviours and all the things in checks towards the 2020 regional election. We want Nigeria after the election. We will be next after the break. Stay with us.