 Welcome to the breakfast in Plasti via Africa. It's time for the press and as always we have a Zika and I took on beautiful first day Joining us this morning. He's a public affairs analyst. Is it can I took is a delight to have you this morning? Well, and I'm hoping that we're able to ratify and sort out the audio and Say it's a pleasure to be with you and thanks for having me Missing it took you back at a favorite spot. I always love to see you with a beautiful picture behind you Wow, that's not only We have to we have to get some tips from you off mercy and myself All right, so let's head straight to it we'll be looking at a daily trust newspaper this morning and Usually our focus will be on the top stories. I set up with the banner caption Boldly written on the daily trust Buhari and nurses Abdul ahi Abdamu as APC chairman Convention to ratify nomination. You also have another writer saying aspirin kicks. I Share Buhari at National Assembly six special seat for women Interesting and you also have the aggregate intervention federal government to buy Two billion narrow cattle for tarpa and that's also another you know issue that was making the rounds Yes, they on different Spaces you also have I was led by spirit pastor held for rape says Okay, and just before move away court orders for feature of 10 property and funds linked to Yari we lost 54 billion error to flight cancellation and Bed strikes that according to airlines and 80% of military personnel performing police duties in 36 states This is according to the CDS. These are some of the headlines But just before we move away the south impeach senator Swan in a Zamfara deputy governor You know the story of the impeachment of the deputy governor and swearing in the senator as a deputy governor That's also is another conversation that's making the rounds in different parts of Spaces in Nigeria, but that's it this morning on the daily trust Let's go over to the leadership with these headlines the lead one there a kicker as APC PDP consider Southern ticket the headline says hope of Igbo presidency Dems over killings in Southeast following writers regional leaders blame for worsening situation It's not enough to deny as presidency or her knees a protests Attacks unacceptable northern groups or group fumes a tasks ahead of 2023 elections challenging I nick all the headlines on the front page of the leadership this morning senator go saw replaces Go saw as a Zamfara deputy governor quite interesting APC chairmanship PNB governors zero in on Abdelahi Adamu Adulterated fuel our product conforms with Nigeria's specification dick oil Orlando Funny Kairi's medical report is fake hospital tells court I should have a makes case for women at nas she was there on the day when the Constitution review process was set in motion particularly with interest on a particular amendment for gender Advancement and equality these are headlines on the front page of leadership Let's move away from the leadership newspaper and take a look at the punch on the front page of the punch Newspaper outweigh as national assembly considers live pension for presiding offices No, it sounds or feels like a deja vu to me But it feels like we have been here before with this particularly issue and it got a lot of Nigerians talking talking about the Constitution amendment underneath you have several riders. It's wasteful self-centered rejected civil society organization tells lawmakers its financial burden And you also have committee recommends pension for Senate president speaker and deputies That's the board our header for the punch newspaper this morning You also have current system suffocating Nigerians Bishop cocker is quoted on that one Another header this morning on the punch says 1.04 billion dollars spent on fuel import in 2021 says the central bank of Nigeria that's the CBN and just before we move away Strike continues as we insist in giga pleads with Union. I wonder what will happen, you know with the back-and-forth Though ask you and the federal government feels scarcity persists as NMPC releases 387.6 million liters of petrol reps deep in probe one dough Duke oil insists government approved dirty fuel That's a lot and fire destroyer finds ministry in vet a room. There's a picture today effect Yesterday that unfortunate sad incident actually happened. Buhari signs electoral bill Friday and CSO suspend protests federal government school feeding costs 100 Naira per child this came to gop 1 billion hour daily I could see the smile beaming on coffee sways, you know very partially not entirely and Just before we move away. You'll have this one saying quad others interim for feature of Yaris United States properties and orders and That's it on the nation. I beg your pardon the punch newspaper this morning Let's quickly switch to the nation this morning with the Big headline there lawmakers to vote on VAT par devolution others Constitution review enters crucial stage speaker to reps you must participate Court orders for feature of 10 properties linked to Yari IMF calls for banks Recapitalization battle for APC top posts shifts to zones Zanfora get new gets new deputy governor after good source sack More on the front page of the nation the airlines lost 60 million dollars to bird strikes in one year Reggaishola's man asks court to void. Oh, yeah, Tola's victory and Finally a valence Mars ocean PDP ward delegates poll and then the L. E. A. Destroys 255 hectares of hemp farms in on though There's a the headlines on the front page of the nation All right, let's have a Zika. Yeah, I took joined the conversation Good morning. Once again is Zika. Yeah, I took is good to have you join us this beautiful morning And thanks again for having me very good morning to you. Okay, so we're set off the conversation with the punch newspaper this morning Talking about the constitution amendment the outrageous national assembly considers life pension for presiding offices And to me it feels like, you know, we've been here before I have seen this before Maybe it has actually happened as a conversation, but probably sounds like a deja vu. What are your thoughts on this? I Think that there's a disconnect between Nigerians In more ways than one I wanted to say Nigerians and the national assembly of politicians, but they are also Nigerians So different divides of Nigeria Now during election time When is when you should vote in people that would take these decisions you jettison the fundamentals which has to do with the recruitment criteria you go for money. These people mortgage their souls their conscience their properties to meet your greed as Nigerians because you insist they must pay you you want to sell your vote Then when this will get into office, you suddenly forget that you had sucked them dry You want them to start to serve you You forget the very Ignorable role that you played and then you put this pressure on the people in the national assembly to do the right thing The right thing is for them to recoup their investments. This might sound very very uncharitable But I want you to really sit down and think If you want people to serve you it is just Consensical that you should look for the people that will serve you. Why should a man pay you to serve you? It doesn't make sense If the man pays you it becomes a transaction It's just like a tenant comes to your house if you want to keep your house Keep it but the moment you want to let out your house You are going to let out your right to use that house for the period you have let your house to that person It's just as simple as that and it is instructive for me to say that now because we are about to start a new cycle Now these people are about to leave and they're not thinking about you because they never thought about you from the beginning They were thinking about themselves just like you were thinking of yourself from the beginning But this is a time for us to say National Assembly whatever you do. We are going to undo Because it's a guy I took Section 84 subsection 5 of the Constitution of the Federal Republic is amended Guarantees life pension for former president and vice president and the cost gulps about 8.8 billion annually So I'll tell you It just gives room for I mean this kind of conversation to go if this is going to happen for the president and the vice president Why can we have you know the speakers and lawmakers? I mean these are the persons follow suit Look, let's let's not follow those conversations that they want us to go section chapter 2 section 14 subsection 2b of the Constitution of the Federal Republic says that The security and welfare of let me use my word the most vulnerable Because he says the people but when you say the people it does not give you the spirit because the people the Generality of the people are the poor people. They are the most vulnerable So if I rephrase it, I'll say the security and welfare of the most vulnerable is the primary Duty or essence of government Shall be in fact, they use the word shall be the primary purpose of government That is the most important statement on the essence of government what you go in there to do Now I believe that any Nigerian past aid of state should not live in penury. I believe that I also believe that Their welfare is not a primary responsibility But to be fair to them any head of state that is seen to be living below The National Assembly in that of the nation or the State House of Assembly can intervene Based on need for you to tell me that in legal state That a man like Mr. Chinobu because he was a former governor should be given four cars every year Given or every cycle as the quarantine fit giving a house in it just doesn't make sense It doesn't or you come to a quite but we say a man like my brother Should be given a house when there is no water in it's no Bolo in the villages for the people to drink It is it we are going to have somewhere along the line a set of people Who understand what government is all about and they are going to repeal all these laws? And rather institute welfare laws that will ensure that the people of Nigeria The most vulnerable the physically challenge the women the children the workers the elderly the youths the students That these people become the primary purpose of government So whatever they are doing now is self-serving and I want to tell you I want to put it on record That those things will be reversed whatever they do. We are starting to tell Nigerians The eyes are starting to open as to what government is and what governance is all about and That they've been taking for a ride for too long And I want to tell you that these people are starting to see reason for them to consider 2023 from completely different perspectives and paradigms all right, let's move on to the the the clamor for a President from the southeast, you know part of Nigeria The leadership has a headline as a PC PDP consider southern ticket hope of Igbo presidency deems over killings in the southeast Do do you foresee a situation where the entire situation from the IPO be agitations to? You know secessionist calls and the violence in the southeast and will make it difficult For the rest of Nigeria to be confident that I'm they can hand Nigerian to the hands of an Igbo man or woman Let me let me say two things The very first is that I am not one of the fans of zoning. I'm not We are in a period of National emergency and what we need as are today is to suspend the protocols and attack through a national emergency rescue team where Excellence comes before any other consideration. That is my first take on that The second take is that We need to understand how narratives are driven. I've said this before and I say it again the Presidency generally is being considered as what you come to the south and the southwest is Just amazing in driving narratives the Igbo's My in-laws are good at trading, but they need to also put on a game in politics All these things are narratives that they want to like, you know exclude and zone Please when we elected president Buhari, what was the situation in the northeast? What was the situation and number two who can tell me that? Can show me one Igbo elder that has endorsed the activities of I pop number three Who does not understand the wind in the sale of I pop as much as I Don't subscribe to the activities But they will tell you that we are being excluded. We are being marginalized. We want our country That narrative could not have been given in the north east or north west not west in particular Not east and not west it couldn't have been given You can tell me why what the bandits are doing and what what the terrorists are doing and why they are doing it But I can tell you what I pop is doing. I may not agree with the medallion methodology But I agree that it is insensitive inhuman for people to feel excluded from the system Yeah, yeah, sorry to interrupt you there, but some are also pushing the narrative or the the the presumption that um, if if and Southeast now let me use that that term as you Mr. Mantel of presidency that he would divide Nigeria You just have out come out Please that is absolute disingenuous and ball the dash At the highest possible level. It doesn't make sense. It's it's it's it's it's um, I don't want to use the word week It's it's it's um, it's a thinking that's infant time You are telling me that Mr. Kingsley Moalu That we've known over the years Becomes president then he divides the country How do presidents take decision? Are you aware that when president Jonathan? Was the president of the federal Republic of Nigeria? There were so many decisions concerning the south side and he could not take Look, let me go tell you this which is sad enough The southerners are not as brazen. You see what president Buhari is doing now hardly can any southerner Do those things? Hardly can any southerner do those things Why why each time he leaves the country and lives You know in the hands of professor Oshiba and job You see him like wanting to impress wanting to impress mr. President No, get your time. He's never wanted to impress you once and anybody who comes in as as the president Must feel this sense of debt to the nation to work to impress But our brother our guy obon Buhari cannot send Whether this is happening that is not happening the guy and you meet somebody that is afraid My mother used to say that the child that has nothing to fear never amounts to anything The National Assembly is not putting pressure on him The people when we talk we don't even know whether even sees it because where he is He's so secluded that he can things can actually happen and they give me a different spin or narrative Oh, it's no mine all these people the other people and then it is when he leaves office that if he was actually a man of Conscience because I really don't know where to place him if he's actually a man of conscience It is when he leaves office that he will start to see the realities. Let me end on this note. There was the man Dr. Joseph wires now while he was in New York There was a cool and he says that what hurt him the most was not that there was a cool But that Nigerian jumped on the street to rejoice He couldn't reconcile that with the impression they had in the office that Nigerians were so much behind them He said you mean we were this unpopular and I didn't know he said it And that is what every leader has to be careful to be able to find a way of you know Side-tracking his system to find out what is going in Nigeria. Okay, that's justifies former Senate president believe. Yes All right, let's take a look at the the Daily Trust newspaper and this one has been generating serious issues some persons have described this act as nepotistic and He talks about the aggregate intervention where the federal government buys two billion narrow cattle for Tarabah I Will pass no no we can't pass I mean this is a this this is a serious issue of national unity Let me just bring you up to speed with some of the conversation that's going on and some people say you have some persons in Abad the spare part business and different, you know parts of the market the Allah by international market the area market and persons who are into different kind of businesses Why is it that it feels like you know this particular gesture or this particular? Intervention is geared towards a select sector peasants and let's not also forget that you know with the president when the president came through There's a speech that the president is popular associated with I belong to nobody and I belong to everybody and now You know the president has constantly been accused of being a very nepotistic has been very Tribalistic if that's the word or very ethnic and this particular one also has generated that conversation So we'd like to show your thoughts on this and not let you pass. You see I I always wonder why My old girl Femi Fallona is always laughing even on very serious matters And I just caught myself that you were saying that and I was laughing and an average Nigerian Who just wonder does this man understand what is going on? You see I may be that you start by apologizing for laughing, but you see When you expect a dog to meow or a cat to back The problem is not with the cat or with the dog. The problem is with you. I Think as a today it has been established beyond all reasonable doubt Who mr. President is what his priorities are? So our prayer is that he will not take more serious action before he leaves office And that God will give him the strength the energy to just like just finish this 2022 so that at 2023 because you see you need to understand how Government works and the essence of government and governors. I believe that he had very good advisors We're in that speech. They made that famous line I belong to all and I belong to none is the most Petrotic statement a leader could make and if that speech came from him Then you would be able to be guided. I don't believe in hundred percent. No, I believe that policies again Of interest and the players have to give the latitude to enjoy their game But if you give them 10 percent latitude 15 percent latitude that is enough at least late 80 to 85 percent be based on national and proper considerations But mr. President is turning everything on its head and it's like Giving 80 percent to his clan and then the other 20 percent he wants to even share with it You understand me that's my personal opinion. It's not the opinion of a plus TV is Strictly my personal opinion. So, please don't need to put in a disclaimer after now. I've taken responsibility And like I call it is my opinion. It's not a fact or anything my opinion So to that extent that decision really does not even surprise me Okay, but a leader will come That will know that there was a time that they were the two countries that we loathe We call them abominable. We call them Taiwan People may be too young to remember those things anything that was originally. So I love abominable Taiwan now fast forward to 2023 Where is about? That way the technology hub of the West African region That had the ingenuity to bring out things that you could compare with Foreign product only that the thinners was not there now the people of Taiwan saw the skill They saw the ingenuity they bumped in and then excavated it or have vested it and it became a national treasure and You know what brought the nation so much wealth and everything But the people of Nigeria left the leadership of Foresight or the leader with foresight to look at this and say this thing that is happening in our back Is something that we can use to rule the West African sub-region if not Africa generally and then Intervene in it and then go to some product in the north that you can use as a global product and invest in it Instead what we do is a cheap black Corruption of fuel subsidy fuel subsidy and we have not sat down to interrogate this But a day will come and I pray that day comes in 2023 when we elect leadership that is responsible That is responsible that is focused that understands what fit for purpose is that understands the essence of this office and goes there to discharge The responsibility and overnight Nigeria will become a preferred destination. I believe Nigerians will wake up to this fire reality All right Let's quickly take one from the front page of the native the punch newspaper the fuel Schesity is still persisting in parts of the country and fuel gate is still on the National Assembly in particular the house of reps is awaited into it and the the punch is perhaps this headline fuel Schesity persists as NNPC Releases 387.6 million liters last time I had they were releasing 1 billion liters I don't know what happened to that but it says with the writer there reps deep and probe or undo Duke oil insist Government approved dirty fuel So it's been a back-and-forth back-and-forth rather between these oil traders or marketers as they may be called and The NNPC and in a time when we're told that the NNPC was a sole importer of the The commodity it seems to be more confusing. Let's say I took your quick. Take on this. I Come back to the fundamentals. Maybe because of an architect. I am I'm so much on foundations. You can have your cake and eat it These guys are all in on this game. They're gaming us They know their hands are not clean. You want to go to probe probe what if they start the re probe week You go off my make they start a real probe. You go off Mike. They know what is going on Is it the biggest problem that we have is that? Legitimacy is the best the most valued treasured currency of any government You know, there's what a young a man told me he said his father told him may the man who is always trusted never lie against you and That statement is so deep We have a government that we never trust we never trust and every day they give us reason why we should never trust them because if The government said the before this amount at this time The first thing I'll do is okay in that case Let me postpone my journey to acquire boom and stay back I can go next week. Maybe tell them to shift this and that there's no need to rush to buy fuel There will be no panic buying. There will be no pressure on the product. Everything will sell smoothly But when government says we will bring this amount of fuel next week So the cues with it the first thing is like ha ha ha add four weeks to that or tell that to the Marines Oh boy, go and get what you can. Oh, it means that they are even say they are afraid that things are going to get worse So they are trying to lie against us So as a result even their statement when they say stop is when Nigeria start to run because they say before they tell you to stop There's something they want to get before you reach there. So run. Let's see what it is And it is a sad commentary The day that we start to believe our government We will be the people that are protecting the system Will be the people that are guiding the system But our government believe that we as citizens have really no role to play just sit down let them do their thing We have taken care of you for four years. So just keep quiet and let us be to the to the government We are irritants. We we are just disturbing them. They can't understand what this is all about So that is why we are having these pressures and cues Unlike you rightly acknowledged Before they say 1 billion liters they come the other day they say 300 million liters that are coming Why can't you just tell us Nigerians? We know that this is a hard truth to tell This is going to last for about two weeks We will advise we will appeal that you go strictly on essential duties Because we are having 300 million liters coming on Monday another 200 coming So because of this is going to go like that and for the next two weeks Then it would taper out and then on Monday the 300 million liters arrived They see it on when is it the other 200 arrived and people say oh it makes sense No problem. They'll cool down this panic buying and storing and god help us We haven't started hearing accidents that are coming on account of well being stored in the house I believe that people would be able to cool down if not if Our leaders can just manage to be just a little honest and sincere with us. Okay. All right. Let me say it to kids It's like you saying that if the government says good morning, you have to check your time In fact, just start getting ready to go and sleep Because you know around night, you know in some other climbs with such an emergency You'll be having daily briefings Government of the house will be will be setting up a press center to give daily briefings to the press This is what we have so far and you see a map a chat You know, they don't feel accountable to the people and they have this high sense of entitlement, especially in the oil and gas industry You have wrapped it up so well. I don't even think I should add any other thing other than to replicate what you have said They don't feel any responsibility to the people And they have this This satanic high sense of entitlement You couldn't have put it better And and it is it is a complete reverse of what government and governance is all about complete reverse And nigerians, why can't we wake up? You see some days back the the national movement was better Before then you have the national consultative front coming together These they have women and men That are trying to come out of their calm sport zones to say enough is enough. We need a critical mass We need every Nigerian to wake up I want to thank plus TV Africa because I know that in each of these situations You follow them up and you actually give more than enough of your time So I want to thank you for it, but I want to say please let Oliver twist do more Let's have a lot more. Look, let the analysis let the editorial team Think if you know, you know, the the media is the fourth estate of the realm. That is an actual constitutional responsibility Which means you don't have to just report. You can actually set the agenda Let us stop. Oh, uh, Tinnopu didn't eat breakfast this morning. He's looking this way. Oh president is Traveling to quite all those things are distractions. The question is as we approach 2023 What are those things that we must change as Nigerians? Let's focus on the office of the citizen of the federal republic of Nigeria What are the things? What are the leadership recruitment criteria? You can't be telling me. Oh, because South is there is insecurity as a result. They cannot produce produce I mean, if the south eastern, how will you Feel and meanwhile you've given your life to one Nigeria You are believing we can pull the narrative and somebody's telling you oh because ipop is making sense It means or doing nonsense. It means that a presidency cannot come to the ebos At the same time, I have to tell the ebos maybe I should join them and form the strategic think tank with them today You need to give a man like kinsley mohanu capacity. People love him. They appreciate it. They just oh, he doesn't have money Meanwhile, one man in newi can fund a guy's campaign can give him that capacity can give him that boost that move One man one man in newi. Why can't the leadership of the ebos and say we have start It's okay. Yeah, it's okay. We have to go. We can give you a page of people only we may be narrowed down to one And they're your in-laws. So we understand But but you've said it all you've said it all and the fantastic brilliant analysis is always. Thank you so much Thanks for having me. Thanks. I'm always delighted to be with you All right, so we look forward to having you show your thoughts And nasu tosi. Thank you so much Thank you. God bless you all Well, that's the size of it. It's been very insightful. I delight, you know, uh, listening to Zika and I took share his thoughts on some of his national issues We take a break now when we return we looking at our first major conversation and just before then let's tell you what happened today in history