 And then for anybody that new to the Zoom meeting, all we require is that everybody just make sure they're muted. You know, the small, some bit of backdrop noise you know, does wreak havoc with these meetings. So if anybody does have anything to say at any time, we can do it two ways. One, you can either unmute and I'm in or two, usually you can send a message in the chat and then I can usually, if you want to send a message into the chat group, then I can call on you at the appropriate time. Let's just make sure that we get the roll call of people online for our attendance. Teresa, other than the board members, is Kyle. Doug's on Joanne. Joanne, OK. Joanne, Judy. Ellie, six five, oh, two. Yes, Steve. That is Jeanine. Who is six? Who's two, three, four, six, five, oh, two. Is that Ellie? No, Ellie's on. I can see her and I can see Jeanine. And I can see Shane. Oh, Ellie, no, Ellie is six five, oh, two. Oh, that's weird. She's on twice. OK. Or she might, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I can see her name. She may be on the phone and connected to the computer too at the same time or something. That could be. OK, well. All right, so we will get started. So first on the agenda is to approve the agenda. Did anybody have anything that they wanted to amend on the agenda or approve as is? Teresa, I'm not sure if they'll be part of your COVID discussion, but I wanted to spend a couple of minutes and talk about the budget, this year's budget and next year's budget and how it might be impacted by some of the things that are going on. Sure, we can do that under COVID-19. OK. All right. And move to accept as printed. Second. OK, all in favor. Aye. Aye. Aye's have it. And we will move forward. We do have our appointment. Well, first, we got public comment inquiry. There's anything that is not part of the discussion for this evening that anybody would like to bring up now is the time. You can either do that by unmuting your phone at this time or you could send a message in the group chat. And I can call on you one by one. I have a little thing. The bench down at Pevine is the seat is a skew and it just needs to be set back up on its on the legs. OK. The one down by the boat launch. It's an easy one. All right, that's perfect. All right, let Richard know. Thank you. Perfect. Thanks. OK. All right. Doug, you get anything? No, I don't have anything yet. All right. Anybody else just for the record, doesn't look like Doug did get the haircut. So him and I are the same. Want to see my man? All right, we will move forward. Let's see. Do we have everybody from the. Right. Committee on the line currently. I think so. It looks like Shane's having trouble. His keeps saying connecting to audio. So I don't know if he is having trouble connecting to the audio or what. But I'll see if I can send him a message. I think you're all right. I mean, if they're having a little bit of issues getting on, we can, you know, we can take care of probably an item or two while they're waiting. Yeah, let me try to send him a message. I mean, although Ellie's on, so she can hear and speak. So I'll send Shane a message. She's on a phone. Ellie may not be aware she's muted, but Teresa, you should have the ability to unmute her as the. Yeah, let me see. Sure, she is on mute, at least in one spot. She's on here twice, once is her phone number, once with her name, but I will unmute her on the phone. I just unmuted her phone. OK, and I'll send Shane a message. Did you unmute her phone or somebody else's? Somebody else's. Oh, that might be AJ. 9899. All right, then I now back off. OK, all right, let me ask. So you can hear me. Yeah, yes. OK, so I guess. If the rec committee is we can move forward with the rec committee. So the last time where we left off. Wise, well, we've gotten as far as the skate park. You know, we had the 20 by 80 design. We had solicited a bid to do the four feet of excavation and new sub base material to clean up the the clay issues down there. And for the most part with the board members at that time, we just wanted an itemized sheet of what Parker was going to include in his fifty five thousand dollar estimate. That's kind of where we left it. Is that sound right, members? Yes. OK, so. And then we got some more. Got some new information in our packets. In regards to the layout of the project, which I don't I won't go through all the details, but maybe just kind of I read off a couple of these. It might answer some of the questions that we did have. Let me just get to the spot here. According to the quote here, Tariq. That that the town will be responsible for excavation to prep the site, which is removing four feet of the. You know, unsuitable material. In a pattern, which is twenty four by eighty four feet. Well, except if you read down on page three under optional deductions to get the cost of fifty five thousand, it's actually going to be twenty by seventy two. OK, well, I know we got to talk about that. Yeah, OK. Well, I guess I guess the one question I have in regards to that that didn't seem exactly clear in this is, you know, we're excavating four feet of material out and obviously four feet of new new sub base needs to be brought in. And then there's the one foot that one foot of material that Parker has included in his court. So is it four plus one or is it three plus one? I think it's still going to it's going to be four plus one. I called North Road excavation today and said, look, the the die. The measurements of the skate park are going to change. And I said, so it looks like you're going to be doing instead of twenty by eighty, we're going to do do twenty by seventy two. And I was going to need him to put in an additional foot of the three quarter crushed stone compacted and all that. And he said no problem since his his quote already. Is going to be reduced because we don't need him to do the original estimation of what we thought it was going to be, which was eighty feet. He said that his price will be, you know, it's not going to be any more than the ninety nine eighty four. So to pick up that other to install that and compact that foot of three quarter that we need to put on the top. OK. Well, I just wanted to follow you on that. So the quote, the initial quote that we gotten from him was to excavate out four feet of material and put four feet back. Is that correct? Yes, at a twenty by eighty size. So when I called him today, I said, you're going to excavate out the additional foot and it's going to be a smaller, you know, diameter and he was fine with that. And I said, I'm going to need you to put in and compact another foot of stone. So he thinks the price will will be similar because it's less area that he's, you know, doing. So OK. So before we only had him put in three feet back and then Parker was in the one foot. No, we had him doing four feet. So we were going to be able to reduce it because there was some confusion between what Parker was going to do and what we were going to do. So now we're so we're still doing. Aren't we still doing the four foot plus a foot or not according to the bid there? OK, then I miss miss rest of the way there's going to be some savings then because we're going to reduce the dimensions of it. And then I'll tell I'll have North Road do the four foot, which is what his bid was anyways, just knowing that that foot of material that he's going to put in a three quarter inch crushed stone and not one and a quarter. So either way, we're good. Can you folks hear me OK? Yes, we can now, Shane. All right. So Parker was going to take care of one foot. He needed three additional feet. So it's three plus one and the footprint of the stone needs to be a little bit bigger than the footprint of the park. So that it's not right at the hairy edge of the stone we're putting in. It's it's got an extra couple feet on the side. I think the footprint specified in here somewhere. But I believe it's it's like an extra four feet in each direction. Yeah, I guess my question was just making sure that what we had in the quote from the excavation company to to do the site work. What exactly we had in that initial quote? Because if we did have them taking four out and putting four in, yeah, then wouldn't that wouldn't we get credit back from because there were some optional deductions that he had and one of the thirty five hundred to do the upper. Yeah, if you look at North Road's bid right in the top, it says four feet by twenty feet by eighty feet. So that's what I got a price on at the time. So if I need to adjust that, I called him today about the other stone. So I think that his price of ninety nine eighty four is still going to cover it. And so we're assuming that we're going to get a whatever an optional deduction of thirty five hundred because we're doing that scope of work from Parker. We're going to have to in order to get his bid down from sixty. No, I just trained in five. Yes, I had a rat in my head around that. I didn't know if we were doing three plus one or four plus one. So OK, yeah, it's three. It's three plus one and the footprint for the stone needs to be twenty four by eighty four. That's if we're doing full size, but that's now reduced to twenty four by seventy six. OK, that makes sense to you folks. Right. Yes. Yeah. So that was the first part that the town was going to be responsible for and the town's also responsible for the drainage piece, which we had talked about prior. Well, the town would be doing the final grading, ditching and seeding and stuff, too. Yeah, and we'd planned on that, actually, the road crew doing that. So I'd already talked to Alan about doing that. So I'll so that's fine. So I guess right now, I mean, this piece that we were talking about, if we're sticking with the footprint of the twenty by eighty. Parker's number is, well, from what I see, it's sixty five thousand minus the thirty five hundred. Does that sound perfect? Yeah, minus all the other optional deductions on the page three. Yes. On the subject of the optional reductions, I think we should keep the the quarter pipe that he's listing as an option. If we're if we're saving on the stone and on the footprint, that second quarter pipe is pretty important. We can skip the mani pad. Well, it's it's not going to work because the select board had already said in a prior meeting how much money they would give towards it. So we really don't have we have to get Michael's bid to fifty five thousand dollars in order to make it come in at what you guys already have in the account, which was we we have fifty seven. And that means we're seven hundred and fifty bucks shy. So to me, that's that's in the noise. Because we because we are doing the extra whatever rounded to ten thousand dollars with the site work. Where are we getting the ten thousand from? It's going to have to come from the the the rec facility fund. Money that was, you know, other than money that was set aside for the skate park. It would have to come from the other money that the people, the other appropriations. And we had talked about last time that any fundraising that would happen between now and the current would go back towards the ten thousand dollars. And if for whatever reason, if if they if they raise greater than ten thousand, then they could put that extra funds towards the park. With. So it sounds like right now. So it sounds like right now we're looking at the twenty by seventy two. If I just want to get it right to get to the fifty five thousand. We're at the twenty by seventy two design. Yes. But it sounds like you want to add back in the mini quarter pipe. Is that right? Yes, he was going to next one of them one end on the eight foot long side of the park. So we're really at fifty seven. Seven fifty. Seven fifty. And then we're at, you know, you know, we'll round up to the ten thousand dollars for the site excavation. So we're at sixty seven fifty. Yes. Is that right? Yep. Can you maybe explain to the board because I have a basic idea, but I don't really have a full understanding. Can you maybe explain why the addition or or if taking away that other mini pipe, what that would do or how it changes the user experience of it? Sure. At the end of a park, you know, this is a linear park for all intents and there's no way to turn around without something to give you some momentum to do so. It's it's essentially a dead end portion of the park. If we don't have a wedge or a little launch like that, that gives them a place to to park and then a place to take off from. It seems like a small thing. But gee was when when you've got a pile of kids trying to trying to get stuff done to use one of the features or more of the features, you really need a place to turn around, especially in a linear park. Do you folks do you folks have the images that went with this quote? Yes, there's there's a larger decked mini on the left end in the bottom image and then a small mini in the bottom right of the bottom image. And it's that bottom right one that he and I had talked about being the the possible sacrificial one, but both of us agree. It's better to keep that one, keep both of them and ditch the mini pad. OK, where's the mini pad? The mini pad is that table looking thing in the bottom image. It's six inches tall and like, I don't know, 12 feet long or so. OK, yep. Thank you. That that's something that can be an add on that wouldn't be concrete. It could be steel and Lexan. So it could be something that we could add to the park at a at a different time from a donor or whatever. So it's not like it has to be cast in concrete. I think for what it's worth for usability, we've sort of stripped this down a lot as it is. And if we're going to sort of niggle over one small element, that's about a thousand dollars difference of what we're looking at, you know, user function that it seems like a silly thing to be nixing that just to just to hit an exact number. I don't know. That's just where I land with this. I think we've we've really sort of asked the rec department to go back to the drawing board a number of times and they've done that and they've met our requests every single time. And to to sort of argue over one small element that really actually becomes detrimental to the overall function of a place. Why build it in the first place, if that's what we're going to end up doing in the long run? I think at this point, it's probably just, you know, easiest thing to do would be to put a motion on the table, which would be to approve the the skate park with the dimensions of the twenty by seventy two design to also well twenty by seventy two, which is fifty five thousand. And then to add back in the mini quarter pipe for twenty seven fifty for a total of fifty seven or fifty fifty seven seven fifty plus the site work, which is in the amount of ninety nine eighty four. So I would entertain a motion and say we're ready to move forward with that. So moved. Oh, we do. We do have a question from Kyle. I thanks just to be clear, is the motion you're putting forward with or without the manual pad without without. OK. Yeah. My thought on this, Kyle, is that we can add a steel one adding a steel one? Yes, at a later time from either donations or additional funds that we raise to have the mini pad be the showstopper for the general function. You know, I'd like to get some portable grind ledges and a mini pad and that kind of stuff added in to that middle space on that on that long side that doesn't have much. I'd like to have a rail and ledges and a mini pad at a minimum. Sure. Yeah, that all sounds good. Yeah, my my. Like Lindley was saying, it's good to have I understand costs and all of that, but it's important to have a variety of features in a skate park. And that's just the little manual pad is and I agree with you, Shane, it'd be great to get a grind box and a rail in there. So I guess what I'm saying is it's just important to have diversity. You know, if it's it's great if you have a bunch of quarter pipes, but there's got to be, you know, something else to it to really make it a skate park, in my opinion. Kyle, I agree with you wholeheartedly. And we ended up having to chop this into two phases. OK, we had like a big concrete poor side and then a street style on the other on the other two thirds. It was going to be another 40 feet or so by eight, 70 or 80 feet that was going to have the street style stuff. So we figured we try to hit the hard contours on the first poor. And then as we, you know, have additional funds to do phase two, we would most certainly have all kinds of streets to streetscape stuff. Yeah, cool. And I'm certainly late later than everybody else coming to this topic. So there's a lot I don't know, like Shane just told me, and that all sounds good. And yeah, regardless, I'm wholeheartedly in support of the skate park. I think it's a really great, great thing as a benefit town and and those in it. So thank you, Kyle. So we currently have a motion on the floor. We have a second. Do we have a discussion after a second? Because I'd like to add something to the motion. Yeah, usually the discussion comes after the second. Yeah. OK, I'd second it. OK, and discussion. I'd like to have a many motion to include the spending of the $10,000, you know, rounded up to $10,000 to come from the rec fund, a general fund as part of the motion. OK, yeah, no, I think the intent was that you know, that the total spending, which in this case, this motion will bring is about six seventy six thousand seven fifty. Yeah, you know, that that would all come out of the recreation fund. Yeah, I want to make sure that's part of the documentation. OK, so we have a motion and a second. All in favor. All right. Yeah, I got how much was that number you just said, Chris? The total amount, the total amount, including the site work, it's seventy six, seven fifty. Oh, I thought we were talking sixty seven, seven fifty. Yeah, I'm sorry. I got my numbers back. It's seven, seven, yes, you're right. OK, because I OK, I just want to make sure I wasn't hearing something different. No, we had it right the first time. I just said it wrong the second time. OK, so sixty seven, seven fifty. So we'll be paid out of the recreation fund. That's correct. What's been already allocated for the park and additional twelve thousand seven fifty coming out of the. The fund for development of the park of the area. And then and then any of the fundraising that they'll do between now and the construction of the park, they would put towards us is what we're talking about. OK, and if they and if they go over that that amount of payback, then they can add that towards the park. So we had a we had a motion. We had a motion by Linley, a second by Paul. And so all in favor wise, we had to Avermo. Nay, most nay, Dave. I'm going to go with I. OK, so motion moves. All right. So I guess we're at the point where we're going to start building this thing, hopefully. So, Shane, Shane, if you could give Michael Parker my number, that would be great so that I can set up a job meeting for North Road and he. And there's obviously some COVID-19 things that he's going to have to adhere to. So I just want to make sure that he and I are on the same page. Sure. Sure. What digits do you prefer, Therese? The office is fine, the two, three, four, nine, three, four, zero. OK. Perfect. Thanks, Shane. No problem at all. Thank you very much. Select board. Yeah. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Do you have any other questions for us? I don't have this time. No. No. Well, thank you. Thank you very, very much for your time. Yeah. Have a good evening. You too. Thanks, Shane. Thank you for all your hard work on it, Shane. Hey, I'm happy this is happening. Bye. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks for having me be here. Yeah. Take care, everybody. All right. Bye. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye. All right. We just lost about... OK. Our ratings are going down. Can I ask you a quick question? So that's four in favor and one against. Did I have those numbers correct? Yes. Yeah. Well, the... Yeah, that's fine. It's technically three in favor and one against because the chair doesn't vote unless there's a tie. OK. Gotcha. Thank you. Lisa, can you just make sure that it's in there in the minutes that any money fund raised needs to offset that the money we spend to north road properties that 10,000 and then it can go to the new. Anything else they want to add? You could just put a note in there and I'll edit it when you send them to me if you want. OK. Any money raised? OK. Fund raised over the 10,000. Even if you just leave it dot, dot, dot, I'll fill it in. OK. It's just it'll be right there. Perfect. OK. It's right at the end. OK. Thanks. All right. And next on the agenda was let's see here to reappoint Bill Hall as the representative to the Regional Transportation Advisory Committee until March 31st, 2021. So I would entertain a motion to reappoint Bill Hall. Second. OK. All in favor. Right. OK. And this disappointment, Lisa, will be until March 31st of 2021. So yeah, that was in the agenda. Thank you. One year. Yeah. I know these appointments get tricky because some are one. Some of our two here. Excuse me. Yep. This yeah, mine says three thirty one twenty one. Yeah. OK. All right. And I signed the Local Emergency Operation Plan Adoption Forum. Trisha, one. Sure, we went through Kelly, sent this to Dave, Aldergetti and myself. We went through and then told, you know, had her do any updates, changes, whether it's a personnel that changed emails, phone numbers, etc. So we went through it a couple of times and she had went through and made all the appropriate changes. So you're supposed to adopt this every year by May 1st. And since it's saying here because of COVID-19, they are actually allowing me to type in somebody's name. So I can certainly sign my name because in order to sign it, you have to have taken at least ICS 100, which I have taken 100 and 200. And then it says I can type in a name. So I could always type in the name of Chris Jarvis, if you guys approve it, that because it says looks like we need two signatures. OK. At least once we get it, we send it to to Rivers, too. So they have a copy of it as well. OK. And three, it's just for further information. If you have anything that does need to be signed by myself, if you can PDF it to me, I can I have a I can sign the documents and send them back to me. OK, perfect. I have a signed tool that has my signature in it. OK, great. I'll I'll do that tomorrow then. So so you're just looking for a motion to allow. I am looking for a motion to adopt our local emergency management plan. OK. And it's we have to do it every year by May 1st. And then the only signature on it would be yours and mine, yours and mine. All right. So I've entertained a motion to adopt the local emergency operation plan. So, Teresa, we we just updated names, you know, names and phone numbers and contact information. We didn't really change any of the procedures. No, not really. It's kind of hard at this time of year because we couldn't all get together. So we went through it all. I read it, Kelly read it, Dave read it and and nothing glaring at this time. Since it's the new format and we, you know, you did it from scratch last year. It was really just some minor updates. OK, so move. Second. Hey, all in favor. All right. All right. And then we had the FEMA P lines project that bid. And Teresa, won't you take us through that? Sure. So that was a project. We had 10 bidders, actually. So as you can see on here, the north road excavation was the low bidder. I do voice in King went through all the bids, excuse me, and did the analysis. And they are the obvious, you know, low bidder. I have to say Chris Bump and I went through these. He's the gentleman from the state that I work with frequently. On FEMA projects, and we were shocked by some of the numbers we had. We thought this was for sure, you know, under a 300,000, if not under two hundred thousand dollar projects. So when we saw the six and eight hundred thousand dollar numbers, we were really surprised. So. So anyway, so we've been through the process. This is one of our last FEMA projects to award the next one that will be awarding once we get the hydraulic study done is Pinello Bridge. So we are getting there, folks. We're wrapping them up. We did receive some more payments and obviously as soon as we get payments, we cut checks to Mascoma and send that money to pay down the line of credit we drew on. That was going to be my question, Teresa, as I had written down here with the estimate for it, because I know we had talked several months ago where originally we didn't think it was going to be a whole lot. Right. Yeah, I think the construction after the engineering piece and it was going to be more than we thought. Yeah, the construction estimate was, I think, three hundred and thirty six thousand. OK, so so this low bid currently is under the estimate that we had. Yep. And I called them about it to make sure we were, you know, still holding that these were the good prices and the whole thing. And and they were fine. So we will once awarded, we'll move forward. And John, I believe it'll be John Ashley from Du Bois and King and I will meet with the contractor. OK. So I would entertain a motion to award the divine slope project to North Road Construction in the amount of two hundred and sixty seven thousand two hundred and fifty dollars. So move. When we second it, all in favor. All right. All right. Theresa, if it wouldn't be too big of a thing for a regularly scheduled meeting, could you maybe provide us a simple spreadsheet on showing what what our FEMA obligations were and what what money we've received today? Sure. You know, the total amount is whatever one point two million. And this is how we see this is how much we have coming or just something so that we can just see that. Absolutely. Yeah. Because I think she's finished all of the projects now. And I think East, the East Quadrant, actually, I think I can sign off on. I just got an email from Jessica today, so I can certainly let you know what we spent and what we're going to get back. Yeah, just be kind of interested in that. See that. And I, you know, and also, you know, when we had the we had the major flood issues, you know, back on Irene, you know, of course, the, you know, a lot of that stuff got swept on the table. And yeah. So it'd be nice to see, you know, the pieces and when they were paid. Well, they were smart this time. I was rafting. Yeah. Well, Mascoma was smart because they and I agreed to it. They put in the documents that this was only to be used for the April 15th flood. So we took one draw of, I think, six or 650,000. I can't remember. And then, of course, we sent them back all the money already that we received from federal highways. We sent them back the money from the debris removal underlying bridge. And I'm just got another one. So I'm just sending them another check next week. So. So, yeah. So I can certainly do that for you. Does anybody on the board want anything further in regards to the FEMA projects that we have out there? Or is that sufficient enough for now? No, it's good. It's good to have. Yeah, I think the only thing, like I said, we're waiting for is once Ripple finishes their hydraulic study, we'll be able to make some move for the the bridge and deal with that. And then that will be it. Exciting. It was exciting for me about you, but I'm happy about it. We're excited with you. Yeah, there you go. I know Chris is excited because he's taking a drive and around taking pictures. And it's such a long drawn out process. It really is really out of time that goes into it. It's just unreal. And I think that you have all your ducks in the row. They threw a curb ball. Yeah, I've actually done the last few weeks had to get some more things out of the river engineer because some projects that Jessica sent on, you know, once she does it, then they're reviewed and reviewed. And I've had a couple from somewhere in another state for FEMA and had to go back and give them, you know, additional information. So and we are recent just recently from Jair. And some of it was just making sure that we had all of our engineering permits and things like that, which of course we did have. You don't work in the river in Vermont without a permit. So not usually not when somebody's watching. Hey, I remember, I remember after Irene watching, you know, big dozers and haul trucks going up and down the rivers. I know. Yeah, not anymore. Although I've decided it kind of depends which river engineer you get because there's a couple of them who I've asked the same questions, got different answers. And I'm like, don't you work for each other? And they're like, yeah, so I don't know. All right. Anything further in regards to the p-vine slope? Any kind of a timetable? No, no, I haven't had the pre-construction meeting yet. So I don't know. And of course, because of COVID, I did North Road did ask me if they could start hauling because they can store some of the material in our pit and my kicker's pit. But I had said they needed to wait until we got through this. Is there a completion date for it, Therese? Is there a what? Completion date. Honestly, I don't have the bid here at my house, the FEMA bid. And because of COVID, you know, that I don't remember what our final date is. And it may have changed a little. So I'll have more for you after the pre-construction meeting. And moving along at the COVID-19 discussion. Okay. So boy, if anybody thinks this doesn't take up a lot of time, they are completely wrong because this is crazy how much time COVID takes. I was reading the article, the updated from the Agency of Commerce and Community Development, and now it's saying all employees, including those already working, except for first responders in our case, must complete and employers must document a training on mandatory health and safety requirements as provided by VOSHA or another training program that meets or exceeds the VOSHA provided standards by May 4th, 2020. They really didn't give us a whole bunch of time here. So I found the training today and sent it out to everybody and I have had four people already take it. There is additional training that's much more in depth by the AGC, the Association of General Contractors. That training was $200, but they've made it free. God bless them. And I'm actually signed up to take that on Thursday. I know Chris Jarvis has already taken it. So I wanted to take that one first and then the other one. And then if necessary, I may ask Alan or Tim Mills, possibly both Alan and Tim, to take the more in-depth training if I feel it's necessary. Pam Brown took the one online today and spoke to me afterwards. And what I was happy to hear was Pam said that there wasn't anything in the training that she didn't feel I had already told them. So that made me happy that we're getting the message out there. And if you take the... That's not the AGC training, Chris. That's a different one. If you take the AGC one after the training, they send you all the PowerPoints and toolbox talks and employee guides and things. And then you can actually sit down with each... You could sit down one-on-one or you could do it in an outside setting with five people, you can actually do the training to them. So the AGC one, you become a trainer is what it is. Yeah, that's handy. But I figured in this case, I wanted all the employees to take it. My biggest fear is that somebody is going to say to me, oh, you didn't tell me that or you didn't tell me about that precaution or I'm still putting together with the de-tree some information for the staff, which is going to be detailed in the sense like, this is how you properly clean your vehicle. This is how you properly wash your hands. This is how you make a mask. All that sort of stuff that, I mean, we forward it to them, but I want them to have it in any little bundle. And it's just hard because the information changes. You know, one day you got two people, then you got five. But then it's no, everybody has to social distance. Now it's where possible. And, you know, I'm telling you, my head's going to explode before this whole thing is over. And what's nice about the AGC one is they do give certificates to everybody. Yes, yep. You could put them in your employee file as well as any time you train somebody, you have to send that sheet back to the AGC so they keep documentation of it. Nice. And the training that said they never got trained. You could say, oh, yeah, here it is. Yeah, the training link that I sent out today also requires everyone to send it back to me. And I made that clear in the email that everybody had to provide to me. I even told them they could send staff home early, you know, so that they could take it if somebody doesn't have a computer, how to figure that out. But I did tell everybody they had to get me their completion form by May 4th. So I'm just going to put it in their personnel file. But, you know, I mean, by God, you come out with that decision on Friday and then, you know, thank goodness, we're small. I don't know how companies that are really large all of a sudden got to have everybody in their brother trained by May 4th. So I hear you, I'm sure it is. But yeah, it's challenging, but worth it. And I will say that from going through that pretty much the practices that we have instilled in the town currently is exactly what they're looking for. So that's good. I have had supplies is really good. And I had a conversation with North Road today, another contractor that I'm going to be doing a project with over the summer. And I sent them the links to and said to him, gentlemen, I'm going to be looking for the fact that you've taken this and that you have the certification. So you might as well do it now. So I send it to both of them. And I had spoken to our attorney, Joe McLean, and he gave me some language to add. So we're going to add it to this contract. I provided it to Du Bois and King and try to get it added to GWTATRO. But for any contract that we sign, there's a specific additional guidance about VOSHA, which basically says, you know, the town of Bethel is not going to bear any responsibility for protecting their employees from COVID and all that. So I did move forward and got some legal language from them too. So, you know, just trying to make sure we're all covered. And I do have a job meeting tomorrow. Tim Mills and I do with Aldrich Nellie and GWTATRO. So we'll be able to find out then, Chris, what their practices and protocols are as well. Yeah. Well, again, it regards to who's funding it, you know, the contractors in the state of Vermont have to show proof that they've trained their employees through the COVID-19. So yeah. I would just ask, like I said, he's I know that contractor, they've already done theirs, but they may want to post it. So yeah, people can see it. That's all. Exactly. And Paul, you had a question about the budget. So at this point, frankly, Paul, we haven't spent a lot of money on COVID-19 salaries, of course, but, you know, for training or whatever. But I don't think we're going to get that money back from FEMA. Usually the only thing you get back from FEMA is overtime. But I haven't had, you know, 20 minutes to really delve into that yet. The only expenses we have are that we've paid silo distributing for hand sanitizer. We ordered for like 10 bucks, some thermometers that we may end up that we may end up that go on your forehead, that we may have distributing to staff to make sure that if that if they don't have one home, they can take their temperature. And the mailer, which we did, which, you know, will cost us less than five hundred dollars like we talked about. So currently, Paul, we don't have a lot of expenses as far as collection. I guess, you know, I'm going to have to wait and see. We did wait. We didn't charge interest in February. We haven't charged penalty, but I did have Deetre reissue delinquent tax and water bills in March because I knew people were also, you know, may get a payment from the feds and any refund they were getting back just to remind them that, you know, they may have had delinquent taxes. And so until taxes are due in May, I'm not going to have a big idea if it's increased our delinquency, because in some cases, Paul, some people were already delinquent. So I can't really tell you at this moment if I had any additional delinquencies because we normally kick out over a hundred delinquent water sewer bills. And we did this time as well. So and as we've said, we're moving forward with the May 15th tax thing. And I've already received tax payments and I put a note in the newspaper that will go out this week for the next three weeks. So as we don't have a lot of expenses at this point. No, I know it. I just heard that the state, for example, has eliminated discretionary spending for the rest of the this fiscal year. And I didn't know if there was any consideration and we needed to do about that. But yeah, yeah, I have to tell. Yeah, I'm sure for them, they have all sorts of expenses, you know, that we don't. You know, maybe they've had to set people up to work from home, that sort of thing. But currently, we've seen a little bit of savings in our budgets in some places. So well, my other concern was involved, you know, when we do have the tax payment that's due on the 15th, what I know that there's a bill that the governor has now to sign that's going to change, possibly change the ability of the select board to adjust penalties, waive penalties, interests and do things about changing the dates when you can pay your taxes, as opposed to all the stuff that now the abatement board is the only one that can actually do that, you know, abate interest and penalties and things. And I'm just wanted to plan it to see that we may end up with considerable number of abatement requests. If this doesn't go through, you know, if it goes through this process in there, I know the first line of defense, as it were, is for them to contact you, you know, if there's going to be a problem with the payment, whatnot, and then eventually it may move to the abatement process. That's true. So we're like you, I'm waiting to see if the governor signs the language, signs it, because I don't know yet. My recommendation is to continue to move forward, as I've said, with the May 15th payment, because, you know, they're even offering unemployment for contractors. So it depends if the governor doesn't sign it, then yes, you know, we'll certainly work with people and they will have the ability to go for abatement. But of course, there's very specific language. So I'm going to make sure that that language is issued to people and put on our website. It doesn't mean just every Tom, Dick, and Harry can waive interest and penalty. So I'm going to try to make that very clear to people, Paul, so that you hopefully don't have a huge run on it. Make sure that they understand the specific reasons for abatement. Yeah, part of the paperwork that we send out when somebody applies for an abatement lists those six or seven or eight different options that you have to fit into before you be considered even. Right. So I'm going to try to get those out ahead of the rush. That way, make sure that people, if they, when, instead of just saying, you know, they can go to the BCA, make sure that they have the language in advance so that they can make a decision before it even goes to PAM, you know, to write that letter. That way, people can say, hey, you know what? These are the reasons and I don't qualify. So to let them know. But yes, if the governor does give the select board the right to waive or postpone interest and penalty, then we'll have a discussion at that time. But right now we're we're just going forward. I am a little concerned about about actually us getting the state school tax rate before July 15th because you may not realize that we have to mail tax bills out 30 days prior to the due date. And normally they're due August 15th. So you know, if there's a little wiggle room there, we may end up having to push our August 15th payment out to the 30th or beginning of September, I don't know yet, depending on how long it's going to take the state to kick out school tax, because I am not in favor of issuing a municipal tax bill and then later having to issue a school tax bill. That would be very confusing for people and it specifies in this bill that the governor hopefully will sign that this is specific to only property taxes would not apply to educational taxes, educational property tax part of it at all. That would still, that would still have to stay the way it is. So basically we could waive the municipal portion, but we can't waive the school portion. Yeah, I just thought the bill a little while ago to look at it. I'm expecting it to run on abatements. Yeah, exactly. So we'll see, you know, when he signs it, whether or not it's worth it to us because every, you know, all of us here on the screen right now realize that the edu, the municipal portion of your tax rate is really minor. So the penalty and interest on that is not much as if they're not going to waive it on a school tax, I'm not really sure. But it would eliminate the need for getting, you know, nine, ten people, the justice of peace and the select board and the Listers and all of those together for repetitive meetings that would just allow the select board to make a policy, I guess, that on certain conditions, you could waive interest or penalties. Because at the end of the year, looking at penalties and interest on a third, a third of the overall tax, you know, so I mean, it's really pretty mind at that point. Yeah, so we're just going to have to wait and see what the governor, you know, what he does and what the bill looks like. So a couple of that's all I I have for COVID-19 was really. A couple of things just to keep an eye out. And I know you, Teresa, you and I talked about one earlier. But, you know, now that the stimulus bill phase, well, I don't know, whatever, the first one is on on its way or has been accepted, received at the state, and there's another one coming. Some of those pieces of those stimulus bill has to do with infrastructure. So if there's any pieces of that, that maybe we have opportunities to apply for grants or, you know, for whatever it is, if it's paved road or maybe some more waterline repair, whatever it might be. Maybe, yeah, I mean, because it hasn't passed yet. I mean, right, because it last I knew the last stimulus package we had didn't affect towns of 5,000 or less. So it didn't affect Bethel. So do you know what the status of that one is? Some of the money, too, is directly to the state and the state can divvy it up, too. So, right, or keep it. Well, you know, they're, you know, once to the college system. Yeah, just like any bill that starts in government, upon cause, and then by the time everybody gets their hands on it, it has little caveats for everything. So, right, might be something just to reach out to the league to see these stimulus bills coming in. You know, what does that mean for the towns of our side? Is there any potential grant opportunities or? Yeah, they're usually pretty good about kicking us out stuff. But I'll, I know that I know there's like already I know the state, they just put out some extra roadway maintenance stuff with the first one they got. So, right, there's money to all kinds of stuff. Well, sure. The other thing I wanted to talk about a little bit was the next year's budget. So we know that the state, the state of Amman's budgets getting blown out of water pretty much with their expecting hundreds of millions of dollars of shortfall. Sure. So what kind of impact is that going to have with the money that we expect from the state in the next budget? I don't think, I don't think it's going to do much, Paul, because weirdly we get state highway aid and I don't, and they've already set that aside. I don't see it really affecting that for us as far as anything that we bank on getting from them current use, those sort of things. But for us, luckily, you know, we didn't, I don't think we're too, I can't think of anything that's really going to affect us any, unless they all of a sudden start adding payroll tax and stuff like that that we didn't budget for. And is the water line replacement money safe? The 2.8 million. Yeah. Yes. Yep. Yep. We're good to go there. They, you know, we've already done the bond paperwork and all that. And then, you know, they already had that money prior to this. Okay. So I don't think that they, because it was EPA money, I don't think they could legally even touch that. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. And, and, and then Teresa and I talked about it earlier today, but Teresa was going to look into any of the long-term loans that the town has currently, just to check on to see what we have for variable interest loans versus fixed interest loans. Because typically, typically when you go through economical disasters, like we're going through right now, and the government starts pumping money into the economy, at some point, there's the fear of inflation. And when inflation goes up, interest rates go up and everything else. So Teresa was going to, was going to look to see what we had for any long-term debt, that are variable interests that we may want to, you know, move to a fixed interest to be safe. But I think she said right now there was only maybe one. Just one. Yeah. Which is the church street bridge. So I just have to pull the bond documents because sometimes bonds start with, it's listed on the auditor schedule as variable, but sometimes bonds start with an interest rate for a period of time and then go to a different interest rate. So I have to take a look at the actual bond documents. So I have a list, a note to do it, but I haven't had a chance yet. But other than that, everything else we had was a fixed rate. Oh, speaking about though, I should say I did put all the paperwork into Mascoma too, because obviously we're going to need a line of credit when we start the water project. So that will be set for your next agenda. I did a 600,000 line of credit. We can process, you put in requisitions and get money from the state and in a perfect world, they're going to turn it around within three weeks, but I don't know with COVID and everything else. So I did ask for a line of credit, just in case we need it. Hopefully we don't, but better safe than sorry. And that was a reasonable interest rate at this point too. And it's also something for the board to think about, and I know Teresa was already kind of going down that path. But when times like we're going through right now, I mean, people look at it two different ways. One, you can tighten up your purse and hold your money close to you. The other thing too is there's opportunities out there to buy things now that may be more expensive to buy here in the next couple of years too. So the likelihood from what I'm hearing is that interest rates will start to climb again, which those 1, 2, 3% could end up being double that. So things like buying a new town truck, things like that, or opportunities maybe to save on interest by purchasing now rather than waiting two or three years for it. So as part of that discussion, what Chris and I were talking about was the town truck. So I had some specs and sent them to AJ and Alan. And AJ gave me some feedback on his and I guess he went over it with Alan. So Kelly's typing those up now. So once she's done typing, I left a note on her desk today and asked her to email them and mail them to the Equipment Committee so that they can take a look at the specs for the truck. Obviously, we're hoping prior to get somebody to come in and evaluate the price of the freight liners, the value. Well, obviously, we're going to keep one and get rid of one. But with COVID, that wasn't able to happen. But now that the weather is changing, we're hoping that we can get someone to come hold the truck out and then they can go through them outside. So that would hopefully help us take care of that. Because at this point, I think that what we had decided was we probably have a down payment, a good one for a new truck, but probably not enough to foot the entire bill. So Chris is right. If we could get a lower interest rate net loan sooner, we need to move on that. So that's we're in the process of doing that right now. And that's all I have for COVID-19. I don't know if anyone has any questions or comments or. Lindley, did you get that email? I see I was you and Rebecca, Rebecca Senate and she'd CC view and she asked me about an EWD list and I emailed her back. I don't know what that stood for too many acronyms in my life. I was waiting for her answer on that because I didn't understand what that was. Oh, thank God. I was like, oh, what is this? I felt bad. Like maybe she told me a million times and I was like, I don't know. Okay, good. So other than that, I think I hope by now people have got the mailer. I was really disappointed because a wonderful volunteer did that thing. Breakneck speed. We got it to from, I took it from Spalding to the post office on a Wednesday and I had people the following week that still hadn't got them. I was not happy, but I'm hoping everybody by now has received their yellow mailer and it was good information. Look great. Yeah. Yeah. I already had a couple of people who that was very helpful for and were able to take advantage of some, you know, the food shelf and some other things. So it was good. So did you have anything extra in your town manager reported? Did we go through most of that already? Let me look. I can't remember. I know it's probably COVID, COVID, COVID. My life is just. Yeah. The only other thing was that I just want to get this thing out the roadside mowing RFP. I need to, I'm like, you know, this close to finishing and then get doing something else with that I hope to put out and I ended up getting, I needed so quote on the assistance with the structures grant and actually Jeff Gilman went out and gave me a price on it so, so that I could put it in the grant. The only thing that I need to calculate is how much for guard rail and how much to replace the rail. Because that's due by May 15th to the state. So I'll get that done. So other than that, no, Chris, everything is covered on my town manager's report. Vehicle for Oscar. Yeah. He's, he's looking at one. He told me the other day that it was, oh God, don't make me swear to this. Heartland. Norway. Heartland. Norway. Oh, good. Okay. Heartland must be somebody on Norway. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, that he was looking at that and that could work out great for us because we were, you know, you're always concerned about what you got to put on it for equipment. So he said currently his vehicle, he's running, he's been a little bit concerned, I guess, about the water pump, but I'm just like, look, drive it. It dies, it dies, so be it. But he's looking into Norwich and has been talking to their chief and so. We have to get him a dump body on his next one, Therese. We should probably, but no, he was great. He went up and as you all probably know, he helped out and he cleaned up Randy Oaks, some of the property there with the trash and Randy paid for it. Randy went with him and he was going to have to ticket the guy and he had, the gentleman had several issues. So, Oscar stopped by and asked me. That on South Main Street, yeah. South Main Street, yep. And Oscar asked me if he could take the town truck. And I said, sure. So he did it. And he did it. It was, you know, it was a nice thing to do. It cleaned it up and it was really didn't take him that long. And I thought it was a nice way to work with a resident instead of trying to find them. So. Thought that was good as well. And then, and then Therese and I also talked about, Therese and I also talked about today that, you know, maybe, maybe at this point, maybe late June that we'll, we'll put the trash ordinance back on the list. Um, move forward with that. But I guess we'll, yeah. Right. Because weren't you waiting until you could have more people, Chris, to do a, um, a, you know, a public hearing? Yeah. I mean, just the information I'm gathering right now is it looks like that June it's going to be, well, a majority of things are going to be opened up. But by the middle end, what's your, what's your crystal ball saying? I think it was the 12th, but no. No, I, I, I've heard, you know, good things about June. So, you know, it's just something to think about. And then, you know, there's a process there anyway. So it's not like we would get right into it. There's a, you know, we'd have to go back through a public meeting and. Yeah, exactly. There's a couple of months process there before we could even enact anything. So, yeah, I know too, I just realized that you had asked about, you know, making, setting my goals with a better timeline, but frankly, until I have a little more information from COVID about, you know, when I can actually get some of this done, depending on if I could get three or four people together at the same time. So I need, I'll try to put that in your next packet. So I need to get a locksmith, the constable, then the appraiser and myself all in one place. And when it was only two people, I didn't do that. So now I guess I can. Yep. All right. Let's see. We had the select board minutes from the 13th. Yeah. Anybody have any questions or amendments to that? Or if not, I'll just take a motion to approve the minutes for the 13th as written. Don't move. Second. Okay. All in favor. All right. All right. And other communications in our packet. There was the rec committee that was in there. There was also the solid waste committee. Anything you want to add to that, Moe or? No, not at this time. Okay. We're working on some stuff. All right. I think those were the only two committees I saw in the packet. Yeah. The other stuff was just Oscar because I asked Kelly to pull some stuff because I felt like it had been a really long time since he put anything in there. So I did ask her to put that in there. So I see that you had some information from Oscar. The only thing is with his sheets right now from what I'm seeing is there's, I mean, it's basically just telling him when he's on duty and off duty, but there's really no details in there of what's going on. You know, maybe he only writes something in there if something does happen, but it'd be nice to kind of know what he spent, whatever, four hours, eight hours. Spent his time doing? Yeah, that's, yeah, I didn't even. Yeah, there's no detail. I mean, I see him around. It just says suspicious church street with VSP. Check again. I see what you're saying. I mean, I think out of the four that were there, I think there was only comment one day. So I'll have to ask Kelly about that if he has other reports, because she had printed these off and then scanned them to you. I didn't see them until later. So let me ask. I mean, we don't need all the details, but it'd be nice to know that whatever he pulled the car over for speeding. You know, or yeah, exactly. Or answer the answer to Doug or whatever, you know. Yeah, exactly. So I will ask her, there's got to be something that gives a little more input. I think there is. Isn't there something on the website? Isn't there something on the website? You can punch and see what he's done on the console. At one point that there's a more detailed report that he fills out on his laptop. Okay. I'll have to ask Kelly about it. Or actually, I'll just ask Oscar. He'll he'll tell me. I don't really spend any time in spider data, which is his software. Kelly does. So I don't, I'll just say Kelly, but something in there from the constable. And it doesn't, it doesn't need to be too detailed, but it'll just be kind of nice to know what's going on. You know, what he's doing with his time. Yeah. Because, you know, and ask like, you know, when we started seeing like speed rising there a year or so ago, you know, we were able to do some speed studies and, you know, just be nice where our problem areas might be. And yeah, I spoke to him today and asked him to do another targeted traffic targeted traffic patrol on Christian Hill because I received some more complaints about speeding. So I asked him to ask again. It's probably Dave. Eddie probably driving around like a crazy man. But I hear he in that mode drag race up and down Christian Hill. That's probably what's happening. But that's with our John Deere tractors. So I don't think we're speeding too badly. All right. And did we have any other business come before the board? I don't have anything else right now. Our next meeting is scheduled for what is it? The may 11th. Yep. We'll have to talk about I think our this is the following meeting set for some holiday Memorial Day or something. We may have to we may have to work around that. So I'll make a note we can do it the next day. Everybody has travel plans for that day? Probably some mass exodus. Last I checked to read some wide open. Yeah, maybe we'll just leave it on Memorial Day. I don't know. But anyways, we'll I'll make sure we'll figure that out on the 11th. Well, I'm trying to remember what we've done in the past. I think we we had moved it the week prior. Yeah. So it'll be 11th and 18th or something like that. Yeah, I don't know. And we could always do it on a Tuesday. I mean, I will, you know, well, I guess we'll give us a couple more weeks to see what changes. Who knows? We could be back at home again. I don't know. Saturday morning, six o'clock. Oh, that's that's a good look. What's it a while? Okay, well, we can talk about that next time. I'll make a note. All right. Anything else? Anybody have? I move we adjourn. Second. Okay, all in favor. Bye. Have a good evening, everybody. All right. Thanks, guys.