 How about in the news segment, here's some good and bad news for us. The government passed a mandate that said that physicians have to do transitions and abortions. In August, the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals came out and struck down the mandate. It was appealed and upheld, which means that if you have a doctor who is morally having a problem with transitioning someone from a boy to a girl or girl or boy, or they have personal beliefs against abortions, they are legally allowed to opt out of it. That just came out. So that was a win. Here's another one. A bunch of Catholics got together. The government said that they had to do the same thing. They sued and won. The government appealed and lost. So if you have a Catholic hospital, private hospital, Catholic university, that's who brought the lawsuit. And you do not want to participate for moral reasons in transitioning kids or abortions. That's also legal now. There was a second case, a religious hospital, Sisters of St. Francis of Perpetual Adoration, and the Christian Medical Dental Association. They sued and won and the 5th Circuit also upheld their decision that you don't have to transition kids or do abortions if you have moral objection to it. So apparently the courts are starting to swing that direction as a freedom of choice concept. Translation, if you want that service, it's legal, but you just have to go to somebody who is willing to ethically and morally provide it. If someone objects to it, it's not a crime and they're not required to do it. Essentially it's what it's saying. There's another one on California, of course, AB 957. A bill is, it hasn't gone to, what's the governor's name? Newsome. Newsome. It hasn't gone to his desk yet, but they said as soon as it gets there, he's going to sign it. The state of California is requiring family courts in disputes over children and divorces to take the child from the parents if they are not a gender affirming. So in California, you can lose your child over, they have that Minnesota? Not yet, that was the operative term. Now it's a bill 957, it's just about to go into law. It allows the courts to consider parents' affirmation of their child's gender identity when making decisions about visitation and custody. So if you have a divorce, this one's non-supportive that this one is, the kids are going to go to the is, and they can legally do it. So the reason I mention that is because what happens in California usually hits there and then comes east. So I did some few radio shows recently on physician-assisted suicide in euthanasia. I was in 2005, I think it was, Canada was considering a law to allow for euthanasia. And I said that in a few years, that'll trickle down here. And sure enough, there's 12 states now that have physician-assisted suicide. In Canada, they just passed an addendum to that law that expands it to the mentally ill and the elderly, disabled. So in Canada, if you are mentally ill or elderly, the government can euthanize you like a pet. That's going to trickle down here. There are 12 states now in the United States that followed Oregon years ago that allows for physician-assisted suicide. There's 12 states. Oregon, Washington and California have the most cases. Euthanasia, however, thank God, is not legal in the United States. That's covered under some federal homicide laws. You cannot put somebody to sleep like you can in Canada. That's considered murder here. But if you live in a state that has physician-assisted suicide, California, Oregon, Washington, or the top three, New York, there's 12 total, you can petition to get permission to have yourself offed. And the Canadian law was based on finances because 20, 25% of all there, they have universal health care there. And 20, 25% of all the medical costs in the country of Canada was being spent on 6% of the population. Which 6% was that? Right. The elderly, the mentally ill, and the terminally ill. So the theory behind it is the obvious. On the right, the older you get, the more medical issues you have. Your body starts falling apart, getting old sucks. And it costs more to get old, right? So their theory is, let's get rid of these people and save the system. And if you got universal health care up there, that would make economic sense. So that's basically what they're doing. Here's another good news. Real quick. These boring? Or do you find them interesting? Shall I stop doing these? Keep doing them? Okay. I just pick out the ones that have spiritual ramifications. I don't care about politics. If it's related to something spiritual, then I'll include it every month. If that's okay. If you don't like them, I'll get rid of them. I don't care if you don't like them. Two black guys walk into a Starbucks and they just sit down. That's a normal thing. Then they stay there. They don't order anything. That's normal around here. People go into a Starbucks, it's so hot out, they just sit there and they want a yik-yak. Well they'd been there for a few hours and the manager came up and said, listen, you guys have been sitting here for hours on end, you haven't bought anything. And they said, no, we're not leaving. This is racism. No, it's not racism. You're taking up a table, you've been here for hours, you haven't bought anything. Customers are coming in. They get into a dispute. They call the cops. The cops remove the two black guys. Making a long story short. Lawsuits, public bad publicity, racism, everybody's raised. Jumps on the thing, tries to PR it, and fires some management people, sacrificial white people. They fired them, higher ups to try to make, hey, yeah, they shouldn't have done that. This is racism. We're sorry, you're all fired. They then sued Starbucks. A jury in Camden, New Jersey awarded the manager, or not the manager of the store, but higher up, $26 million because she proved that they fired her because she was white. Now that's an expensive espresso. There must have been a lot of good stuff in that one. That's the short version of it. The point is, spiritual, is that God is no respecter of persons, and we shouldn't be either. In this ministry, we're 100% zero race around here. It doesn't matter what you are, we're praying for you, period. Demons don't have races. They just suck and they need to come out. When you start firing people based on race, that's going to have a horrible fallout, even if it's white people. I'm at the bottom of the barrel as a white male. Me and the trash can is a white female. If we are heterosexuals, we are under the barrel. White male heterosexuals are in our society now trash. On a bad note, in Florida, the governor tried to put a stop to certain behavior around minors in schools, and he passed a law that you couldn't have drag shows, gender-affirming treatments, multi-use bathrooms, and so on, and pronouns that had to stop in state and school properties. They sued the state and some federal judge overturned it. They lost that one. Now you can't win them all in Florida, not in Arizona. All right, anybody here new? Wow, okay. All right, well, I'll go through this again. Now, oh, everybody knows what it is? Oh, about seven people said no, we haven't. That's why they call me lucky. Now this is a human being, and all human beings are built exactly the same. Everybody has five parts, right? And these are your five parts, one, two, three, four, and conscience, five. Each one of these parts works independently and collectively all at the same time. It's supernatural. Here is your intelligence and your free will, and this is what drives people in the ministry nuts because they can't get the person's free will to line up with God's, drives you crazy. This is your spirit man where the Holy Spirit lives. All your gifts and fruit come out of there. This is the only part of you that's saved, nothing else is saved. Here's your soul, the seat of your emotions. This is a nightmare on Elm Street. Here's your conscience, the seat of your morality. After you get born again, the Holy Spirit moves into your spirit man. He tries to renovate all these things and heal here, heal, renovate, renovate, renovate. That's the goal. This determines everything, not God, Calvinism is all false doctrines, it's all lies. Your mind, your free will determines God, God does not. Your life depends on what you decide is going to happen. If you want to get delivered today, you will be delivered. If you're holding back, you will not be delivered. If you want to be healed today, that's up to you. Nobody else. The devil is trying to take over your mind so he can control the rest of the person and whoever gets the mind gets the rest of the person. The Holy Spirit wants your mind, he wants to control it, but only if you'll give it to him. He will not take it. The devil will take your mind at anything else he can get his hands on and will do anything in his power, legal or illegal, to take it. He'll do everything and anything to take your mind. As we mentioned a thousand times before, Wigglesworth used to have a flaming temper. He was a plumber. His IQ was high but his academics were very low, third grade graduate. His reading skills were next to nothing. Physically strong guy, kind of big bone guy, tough guy, physical laborer type person, filled the Holy Ghost when he was 40. Everything renovated, temper gone, face skyrocketing, wife taught him to read, devoured the New Testament backwards and forwards, made a decision of his own free will that the Holy Ghost would take him. And so he sacrificed his life and went almost all around the world, just about. What would have happened had he not decided to do that, he died a plumber, Bradsford, England. Nobody had ever heard of him. He buried somewhere. Who would know where? Who would care? Moral of that story. Why OU? Why OU? Have you got a large education? Anybody here got a couple of doctor's degrees or anything? Nobody? Okay, good. Wigglesworth, third grade. Anybody here, Rhodes Scholar, Giant IQ, Einstein? I don't see any. Wigglesworth. Okay. Well, he was a male. He gets it. That's a crock of crap. Sister Edder. Pretty good. Sister Edder must have had the greatest anointing any Americans ever had. She was a woman, hello, you know, dead in the dying, didn't care what sex she was. She decided, like Wigglesworth did, that she would hand over her life to the Lord. Take anything you want. Wow. Where's she good looking? Hot body, bootalicious, popular, racks of friends. Where's she something? A nobody. Wait a minute. A nobody. A nobody seems to be perfect for God. What does that mean? Why OU? You can completely change your life. Unstoppable. Do most Christians do that? 99% they live a year out of their soul. Their Christian life stinks because their emotions rule them instead of their spirit. They become carnal Christians, you know. What's the purpose of the Saturday meeting every month? Transfer over here. Encourage you to transfer over here. Make your move over there. Let's go. I'm going here. Well, you understand, I'm not intelligent, I'm not good looking and I'm not wealthy. You're not, really. Catherine Coleman had nothing. She looked like somebody dug her up. She decided, take what you want. There's nothing the devil can do to stop it. Once you decide, he cannot control your mind. Who am I? Who are you? I just told you, are you a nothing? Perfect. Make your decision. Go here. You don't understand, Mike. I don't have any friends. I'm fat. I'm stupid. I'm ugly. Oh, really? Perfect for God. Not perfect for GQ, not perfect for TV, none of that stuff matters. This is the only thing that matters. You make that decision and nobody and nothing can stop you. I'm too old, really. 40 Wigglesworth got filled with spirit at 40. Your parents' losers? Are they? Perfect. Perfect for God. So every month I try and encourage people, let's go. He can't be stopped. Nobody can stop him. But the Holy Ghost, gosh, he will not take stuff. He wants to be given stuff. He won't just take it. If you don't give him permission, he's not going to do nothing. You don't even have to talk to the devil. He'll do everything behind your back, under your back, stab you in the back. Anything goes with him to destroy you. Not the Holy Ghost. He will not do it. He's looking for volunteers. That's why you came here today. Praise God. No one would come and see me if they weren't. There wouldn't be no reason to come and see me. So remember that guy? Why you don't? You're older. But anyway, Snidely had a lot of sarcasm. And I grew up learning sarcasm. So that's spelled right. Yeah. Sarkasm? It doesn't look right for somebody. Is it spelled right? Yes. All right. I knew that. I was testing you. I do that a lot, test people. Snidely and me had a lot of sarcasm. What happens is when you grow up in a bad family, my parents were drunks, you start to develop automatic reactions to things. And then when you get into adulthood, that just carries over. And when you're around your family or friends or people you know well or spouses, it gets really bad because your filter kind of dissipates. You don't have a filter anymore, so it just pops out, you know. So this and this happens. That figures. She did this and I know. When your son did, your wife did, again, and it just pops out, you don't even think about it. It just comes right out. It's like instantaneous, comes right out of your mind. And that's somebody who is programmed to respond negatively, spontaneously. I do that with my dad. You know, dad's deal fell apart. We lost a bunch of this. All the money's gone. They drank up all this, you know, over and over again as your condition with negativity. You, all that figures, well that's dad again, he just grew up, you know, and it just comes out and nobody asks you, it just falls out. Oh, he'll do it, he took the car, he'll probably wreck, it just falls out. And the person that's dropping these little sarcasm bombs, they don't hear it, but the other person hears it, and they're offended. They think you're trashing them, criticizing them, running them down, rejecting them, backstabbing them. Are you thinking right now? Yeah. Well, that figures. It just came out. You don't even think about it. It's an instantaneous mind default. Your brother's coming for Thanksgiving. Oh, God, he's bringing the kids. It just came out. You know, his kids are psychos. And you go, oh, he's probably bringing the kids. Oh, God, we better reinforce it, but it just falls out instantaneously. It's a precondition. Your mind can be conditioned to replay things in a certain way. And it's based on wounds and frustrations in your soul. It's just manifesting that way. Why am I saying that? When this thing explodes, you did what? Okay, that's easy to interpret. And it's easy to fix if you're looking for it. Oh, my God, I got an anger problem. I got a rage problem. See that? That was easy to pick up. I got an ADHD and psychiatry. My God, there's a problem there. This nobody picks up because it's a preconditioned mental response. And it's so subtle, it just falls out. Hey, let's invite someone so over. Oh, God, drama. It just falls out instantly, comes out. See that? It's preconditioned, a mental response, long-term conditioning. Disappointed in that person. Oh, God, she'll fall apart, she'll start crying, she'll be telling us about the last time her date turned into another date rape, and there it goes. And it all starts after saying, well, you want to invite Brenda to the birthday party? Click, click, click, and instantaneously, boom, it comes out. So now, when you're helping somebody and you're counseling them, you have to listen to every single word they say, every little word that you got to listen to it, because they're telling you something with just subtle little things, subtle things, little things, big things. You don't need to be a counselor to catch those, somebody blowing up. That's easy to catch. That's right in your face. It's a subtle preconditioned negativity. Did you meet Bob? Yeah, I'm at him. Yeah. Yeah. Do you try and get you into bed? Do you try and get your pants off? It just automatically comes out. No emotion behind it, nothing. It's just disappointing with that person's sexual behavior in the past popped right out of the mind. Oh, there it was, just heard their name, nothing. If you're married or you're with your sister or your brother or something, you doing these things, you don't notice, but they notice it. So they interpret it negatively, like you don't like them or you are rejecting them or you are criticizing them or you're superior to them or you're knocking them down or you're beating them under. They get offended at you and you're sitting there going, I don't know, what? What did I say? Hey, come back here. What did I say? And they really don't know what they said. It's just a conditioned mental response that flops out and the person doesn't know they should have bit their tongue. So when you were a sinner and you had that conditioning that carries over into your born-again Christian life, if you get saved. And that's why there's so many negative Christians. Okay? 12 spies go out, right? They see adversity, 12 come back. Two of them didn't respond like the normal person would. They said, hey, wait a minute, the Holy Ghost, Nephilim's no problem for him. The other 10 blurted it out to Moses. And as you'll remember in the story, their job wasn't to come back and give Moses advice. They were told to go there and report their observations. They were told to come back and say, hey, Moses, check it out. We got Nephilim there. We got crops there. We got foreigners there. We got land there. Here's how the land is. Here are the facts. Moses, you're the boss. Here's the facts. You decide. They came back and went into their default system in their mind. We can't do this. They're too big for us. We look like grasshoppers. We suck. Moses didn't ask them what they looked like compared to Nephilim. He didn't want any information other than there's Nephilim there. That's all he wanted to know. He didn't want your interpretation of a Nephilim. He knows about Nephilim. He doesn't need you to explain it to him. Well, the problem was the Holy Ghost heard all that. They were going, how many days? 40. They lost how many years? 40. They lost one year per day. They were over there, four of the years. They were stuck out in the wilderness. What's happening now? You're doing the same thing. Only God's not doing that anymore, but you're doing it. You're wasting all these years with this mindset that you were programmed to go into as a child that was negative. So if you have a rotten family tree, it's chronic negativity. And then when you go into your Christian life, later on you get saved, it carries over and you become a Christian that carries a lot of unbelief and doubt around, okay? Which does what? Blows your Christian life. It's over, man. Screwed. Instead of Sister Edder here, we got Missy Nobody, who's heard the most, Father's heard the most. He wants a Sister Edder here, there. You don't want to Missy Nobody there, there. You don't like that. I said all that to say this. If you have that conditioned negative response, blah. And somebody goes, why'd you say that? Why'd I say what? Why'd you say this, blah, blah, blah? Yeah, I did say that, didn't I? It just comes out. Does this make any sense? Your mind's conditioned to have an instantaneous response to your environment. And if you've been conditioned negatively, you know, like you grew up in a kooky family, then you had your mind cooped out, so to speak. That's the medical term. And that'll carry over into your Christian life, where it's really dangerous. I just got an email today from a guy stuck in Awatuki. His van broke down. He's been living it out of his van. He's a born-again Christian, and he says to me in the email, I just don't understand why nothing works out for me. I just got it this morning from him. So I told him to go to the Dream Center and start there, but the point I'm making, when he has this, you follow that? So if I say it, the demons heard me say it, and therefore it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Therefore they heard it, and so they bless it. They put their anointing on it. And so now I am a suck, because I said I was. You follow? New Year's resolutions. Why don't they work? I just told you, the mind's already conditioned. You have a conditioned response that a casual resolution is not going to break. This is spiritual. This is spiritual. This is a war. I want to lose some weight this year. Why don't you try Ginny Craig for the 10th time? Wow. That'll work. Not. Why won't it work? This is a conditioned response to food, to anxiety resolution, eating for comfort. Ginny Craig's not going to fix this. Hello? Tony Robbins knows a little bit of this, and he's right, it does work. If he pounds enough crap into your mind, you'll change a few things in your life and start thinking differently. But again, that's a small percent of people that get Tony Robynized, because A, they're already strong people to begin with, and B, they have high motivation. So they're going to get something out of Tony Robbins. He's got a lot of good mental tricks, stuff he teaches you. He's got a huge mind, a super-powered mind, and huge motivation, big, strong, powerful human being. That's got nothing to do with it. I'm talking about regular people, not people that are super-motivated, got lots of money. Tony don't sell cheap. Those things are thousands and thousands of dollars, because it's Tony Robbins. Holy Ghost Free. Praise God. Praise God. This is spiritual war, but you're not going to be able to stop this unless you break this instantaneous pattern of response. I told you the story about Jimmy Swagger. So him and Jerry Lee Lewis, this cousin, used to sneak over to the honky talk when they were kids, grade school, and stare at the dancing girls, and they picked up lust demons. So they had this mindset of looking at naked women's bodies, hot bodies. They were trained, they trained themselves to lustful passions in their bodies, exercised by their mind to develop visual lust. Everybody at Highlighter and all these clubs has that system. That's how they have been, their mind has been programmed to be stimulated visually, like that. So that demonic pattern destroyed half of their careers. Jerry Lee Lewis started sleeping with his 12-year-old cousin. Then they got married. Then the press found out about it. He went from here, Elvis was here, Jerry Lee was here. He went from there to there. Jimmy Swagger blew up twice. What was he doing? Boyarism. He wanted prostitutes to dance for him. And this chick dancing for him here at 55 was similar to the honky-tonk peeking in the back when he was in grade school, same demons. See that? Jimmy, Jimmy. So anytime somebody walked by Jerry or Jimmy, he would look. There's a booty. There's a hot bed. There's a good... They were programmed because he went in at seventh grade, fifth grade, peeking at the girls in the back. You see that? Swagger wasn't sleeping with a horse. He'd have him dance for him and that stuff. In private. He wouldn't go to a club. Jerry Lee was worth. He picked up worse demons. He had major lust demons. How many wives do you have? Six? Five. He just died here recently. He died last year, right? This year. Yeah, Jerry Lee died this year. He was the greatest piano player I ever saw. I never saw anybody play the piano like him. Have you? I saw him play the piano one time when it was on fire. Yeah. How do you do that? But anyway, this guy's lust just overran him. It was awful. So when you're helping somebody and they say something odd, I don't think so. Oh, you caught it. Did you hear what you said? I don't think so. See, now I'll repeat it back to him. Just five minutes ago you said, I don't think so. That makes them have to own it, see? That way I'm not accusing them of something when you're counseling. If you don't have the exact facts, the demons will go, oh, they're accusing you. You're being attacked. Oh, we know. Excuse me. You said, and I quote, I don't think so when I was talking about healing, deliverance, what have you. See that? You have to remember and listen carefully. You have to be a good listener to help somebody. I don't know if they listen much in Minnesota, but when you move down here, you got to start listening. And you give them a quote. This is what you said. Now there's a reason you said that. Let's find out what that reason is. Do you love your husband? Oh, not really. Not really. Okay, you said not really. Now, wait a minute here. I heard exactly what you said. Well, no, what I meant was, no, excuse me. You said five, two minutes ago, I heard you, and this is what you said, not really. When you throw a really into a sentence, that alters a sentence. And what's coming out of the heart? It alters. It's a different perspective, correct? Well, that not really there was, could be a conditioned response. The person used over the years while they were being verbally abused as a kid by their mother or something, well, I did it, oh, I kind of did it, and they learned to make statements but leave themselves little outs. And the whole time you're talking to them, you're getting so frustrated because they won't just answer the question straight on. It's like one of these stinking politicians, every time you ask them a question, they never answer it. Have you ever noticed that? They never answer one question. And so they grow up like that when somebody's accusing you, criticizing you, pointing a finger at you, blaming you, no, they did it. He did it. So you learn, you learn to leave yourself out, little outs, see? And that skill is enormously necessary when you get married. But anyway, what it is, is you learn to try to get out and say, did you take the trash out? Oh, no, wait a minute. I just heard an ah. See some people use ah in their answers all the time. Have you ever noticed that? Have you ever been around an ah or ... Okay, they're telling you something with an ah. Means a lot. And then you find out how the person was raised. Somebody putting their thumb on them, somebody trying to control them, someone criticizing them, pointing a finger at them. Oh, no way, this is starting to add up here. Your mother created a walking, see? And you can trail it back. And ah led to a beautiful deliverance from somebody's demons from their mom. You with me? Yeah. We do. See that? Yes, sir. Everything people say, everything basically means something, you know? Now, of course, I'm talking about normal people, I'm not talking about people who are severely mentally ill, that's a totally different ... They say all kinds of things. It means nothing. I'm talking about a regular person. Almost everything they say means something. Bill, you got a minute? Whoa. Bill might have been raised as a throat clearer. What is a throat clearer? It's a person who's scared, giving himself another second or two or three to prepare for the worst. Bob, can you help me with this thing? Oh, a throat clearer with an ah? Uh-oh. No way is that guy coming over to help. He's got something to do. I can do it later, but right now I've got to ... He cooks up a story. Feed Martians, you know, they'll make something up. What's that telling you? Avoidance, fears, irresponsible, scared. Why are they scared? What could be fear of screwing up, fear of being criticized? You, as a minister to them, you've got to listen to what they're saying and pull that out of them. Jim, see that? But you can't help someone if you're not listening to them. And it has to be little things. That could have been a long 10 years of their childhood. You just heard, right, trying to escape, trying to get away, trying to avoid, oh God. You're going to ask me to do now. Some kids are raised with, you know, mothers who don't want to discipline. And it's when your dad gets home, you're going to set, they're going to fix this with your dad. Well, the dad gets home and he won't want to come home anymore. So he starts hitting a happy hour because he doesn't want to come home and have to discipline something he had nothing to do with. And then the kid is being conditioned mentally and emotionally that when they see an authoritative male to, ooh, what happens to that family? Well, later on, kid grows up, he leaves the dad and has no respect for the mother. Yeah. Yes, ma'am. To these instantaneously negative responses also come out in facial expressions as well as body language. Okay. All the time. All the time. As well as writing. Any way they can express it. Anyway, she's always getting blocked. Now did you hear that? Did you hear what she said? She's always getting blocked. Oh my goodness. Thank you, ma'am. She just offered herself up as a sacrificial lamb to the monthly Deliverance Center meeting. She just laid down on the altar and I, I'm Abraham and nobody's coming to save her. Now she said that for a reason. If I went back there, I would find a big old mess with that gal right there. What's your name? Terry. Terry. Yeah. Terry grew up with lots of pain here, but had a powerful conversion, didn't you, Han? Yes, I died in two minutes. And then now she's hard core over to Jesus, right? Yeah, but she's got this crap. She's got crap in there from, how did you figure all that out? I just heard her. What'd you say? I'm always getting blocked. I'm always getting blocked by what I put on Facebook. Now of course she is. Now somebody else answered me. Oh me. You did. Now what's your name? Eva. Eva, you're on the altar. Did you hear Eva answer that question instead of her? Did you hear her? No. Huh? Okay. Who's thinking? Nobody? Oh man. There was a reason she answered that question for her. You didn't hear her? No. All right, now there's a reason this lady here doesn't listen. He was talking. That's right. It was me. Talking. Did you see that? She blamed him. Are you listening? Did you hear that? Oh my God. There's a reason he accepted the blame that wasn't his. Did you hear her? Is anybody following this meeting? This is rich. Everything the person says means something. Jen. Even the dog? Well, now that's a special intervention. That's spiritual. Now everything they said meant something. He's accepting blame for something that clearly wasn't his fault. But he voluntarily throws himself under the bus. So you, when you're ministering to people like him, you find out why they did that. Because there's a reason people throw themselves under the bus. And again, it's a preconditioned pattern. So when I asked her what she said, I was testing her because I was going to go a different direction, but I wanted to see if she remembered what she said. But Ms. Organ Pipe back there is too impatient to wait for her to answer and then we'll dig back in her past and see, isn't anybody going to get this job done? Is this going to get finished? When are they going to help me? What's happening? Are they going to call back? What's going on? Right, honey? Hear that? You didn't hear it. I know you didn't hear it. So when you're ministering to people, everything they say means something. And if you don't pick up on it, you're not going to be able to help them. You're going to miss it. You can't get on a boat that passes you in the harbor. You've got to stand there and wait for the next one. And sometimes you don't get a next one. Is this helping anybody? Yes. Now I'm not trying to teach psychology here. This is spiritual. I'm going to show how the soul works, how the mind can be conditioned by demons from childhood. See that? Doormat people are conditioned from childhood. See? Right? Did your parents fight as kids? Shut up, you biatch. You dirty! Do you stop? Daddy, daddy, I'll do it. Mom, I'll do it. I'll do it. And the child dumps themselves. Let's try and stop, see? So then later on they get saved, ah, doormat thing. Pretty soon they're involved in 50 ministries. They have a nervous breakdown. They're going nuts because they want to help and please everybody. Stop! That's not your ministry in life. Please everybody. People pleasers are not ministers. They're servants of spirits. All these things we've been discussing are things the Holy Spirit removes from the soul over time as you recognize it, repent of it, remove it. You know, that's why deliverance is kind of a process because nobody gets fixed it instantly. It's not going to happen. It could happen in your body, boom, the cancer is gone, but this much more complicated your body. Body is easy pickens for the Holy Ghost. Boot near heel, but this takes free will. That's different. See that? Doormat people like him are in a delusion when God sees them as road warriors, total victors. That's how he sees them. But they see themselves as, maybe I could fix this by dumping myself. I'll give you the money. I'll fix that. I'll go get it. I'm being a good Christian. No, what's happening is you're just following your childhood pain, being a human doormat. Are you a that figures type person? You have that? That's a red flag. Somethings needs to be healed here. Now, if you carried all this to a further extreme, you can see how people develop chronic paranoia. You keep pushing that way, and they go into delusions, alternate realities beyond that, multiple personalities beyond that. But it all starts here. You got to start somewhere, and the devil usually starts something simple, something easy, thought, a feeling, and repeat it, and then it's conditioned, becomes a habit. But the number one thing we usually run into is self-deprecation, self-rejection here, because there's so many dysfunctional families in America. Most people, like me, grew up in a jacked-up home. So I just had a sense I was trash. And so I developed sarcasm. That figures, oh, they won't work, they won't show up, they'll leave. As soon as I kept saying that, they never showed up, they left, the demons go, oh, really? Thank you for authorizing us to damn you with that statement, and we're happy to do it, and we're able to do it, because they have that kind of power, because you gave it to them. And you never 100% overcome it. I haven't. But some people are so damaging they can't function. Long-term marriages, oh, terrible. Completely programmed, just all the time, bang, that ain't gonna work, they won't show up. He'll forget, he forgot. This is all prophetic, this is before they do it. Oh, it's another conspiracy, you know, he'll come up with Martians next, and it just falls out, and you say, what'd you just say? I didn't say nothing. No, you just said something. It just comes out. And the other person that has a wounded soul goes, well, that kind of hurts. You know, you just insulted me. You don't like me. It doesn't make any sense. This is the nuts and bolts of what these spirits do. They train people on how to think, respond to their environment. Yeah? Yeah. We can go into the delusional part, is that when a person is mentally ill? Because at one point I was diagnosed with schizophrenia and spent two months in a mental institution. But it was demonic for me. You know, but the team has altered my mind, like I was on some type of drug, like acid. And I know that because I tried acid before. And they would give me delusions where I would see my mouth like two inches in front of my face for a whole year, so I didn't smile for a whole year. I went at the apex, it was like, I heard, it was as if I had five radio stations in my head at one time because of the demonic activity and like the shadows and the visions that they showed me. And I had a third eye, and they'd give me sensations like a hole in the back of my head, the size of a golf ball with smoke coming out, just weird stuff they did to my mind. Yeah, I know. God did heal my mind. It was like it came back into focus like an ocular tissue. How'd he do it? There was a pastor that had been counseling me, and he prophesied Sunday. He was like, you're going to get your mind back. And I was like, oh, whatever, it was, I had short-term memory loss for like five years. And so I really didn't believe it. And so that was on a Sunday. And then, because I was so bad that I would walk into a room. I wouldn't know what to do with my eyes, my hands, or anything. So I would just watch a person, like this young lady here, full of my arms like her, full of my legs like her, and just watch the clock for 10 minutes because I didn't know what to do. And then, you know, after 10 minutes I find somebody else in the room and I would mimic them. That's how I started my eyes. And so anyway, he predicted I was going to go from the side that was going to get my mind back. And so that was on a Sunday. And then, Wednesday night, walking out of Ivan's City, I stepped really hard down on the semen as I was walking out the door. And my mind just, you know, kind of scared me. And my mind just went back into focus like binoculars. It was like, God, heal me that way. Just like that? Yeah. And do you ever have another delusion? I can't build up coming back, you know, like my husband died four years ago. In short term, I'm going to try to come back, but I'm able to resist it more as I get stronger. But if not like it was before or before, it was like, I was being pulled out of my body. I would wake up at the corner of my bed and just see my body land on the bed, breathing. I knew it was my body because I recognized the breathing pattern. So I mean, it's not like I was before. But the only way I could describe the schizophrenia is, and I would smell sound, I would smell, sorry, I would smell scents like rotten sausages. The only way I could describe it was like being on acid because when I was a teenager, I did acid. And that's how they took my mind. They altered it just like that. Those demonic spirits altered my mind just like alcohol would alter my mind or a strong drug. Did it start in your 20s? No, it probably started in high school. By the time I was 19. 19? And before that, were you ever involved in any kind of spiritual activity? Yeah, palm readers. Palm readers. Yeah. And did either your parents involved in spiritual things? I'm a granddaughter of a Native American chief. Okay. And then also I allowed a lady coming to my house who was a daughter of a witch from Mexico, the Aztecs. And when she left, that night something jumped on me. And then I started having third eye visions. And the demons they hid for like 10 years, they really didn't manifest until I was a student all around this university. And they were confronted with the anointing. Then they started to manifest. Yeah. Now that's a typical story there. I've heard that hundreds of times when she just said they operate in the same pattern. The foundation is spiritualism, some kind of spiritualism. Now up in the family tree there's somebody involved in witchcraft, sorcery, masonry, weird spiritual stuff. And those spirits get in the family tree and then they start going down looking for abuse victims. Usually the kids are abused verbally a lot. And then the other demons eventually let in the schizophrenia demons. She had many demons before she had schizophrenia. She already had a raka demon before she had schizophrenia. They let him in. And then he takes over the rest of the spirits. Yeah. And that's for all of these? Or just schizophrenia? What do you say? For all of these? Or just schizophrenia? Like how you're saying schizophrenia, there's witchcraft at the bottom of it, it goes deep back. Yeah, kind of an opening door thing, which open door thing. Yeah. So that's the schizophrenia demon in, usually. He said all mental illness, does that apply to other demons? No, no, not all mental illness, no. But the other demons she had before that, rejection, fear, they were pushing her toward that spirit. And that was the one they wanted in. They wanted him in, because then he dominates the rest. And he takes over the person of the mind. Yeah. What about depression now? You keep hearing that. All these kids are depressed. Depressed, but it's all over the media. It's all over. You just keep hearing it, and people are manifesting it. Yeah. Now that's the spirit of heaviness. It comes out of the book by Isaiah. And the kids are picking it up, not only depression, but fear, fear demons. And they come in through social media, and games, and computers, and Warcraft, Facebook, Instagram, everything. They get in that way. And then they develop clinical depression. It's running rampant right now. I'm hearing Christian parents saying, I'm scared he's going to kill himself. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. The fear demon got in. The other kids. The spirits gets in through these instruments, and then they talk to the kid and then kill them themselves. Yeah. It's happening all over the country. Same demons. Yeah. Can you deliver someone who doesn't think they can be delivered like they're normally? No, not normally. No. Now, God's people perish for lack of... No. Yeah. And that person doesn't understand how spirits work. How they get in, and out in Jesus' name, split the Christian world in half, like that. And then the fight started. Christians can't have demons. Christians are possessed. Oh, the whole thing. It's a big mess. But going back to an old radio show, God showed me there was going to be a deliverance revival in America. I think it was 2004 or five, no, six or seven, I did that show. And but he also showed me it was going to go like this, nothing. So it's going to phase through us nationwide like a fad. And the funds going to go out of it, the money is going to go out of it, the CDs, the books and everything are going to all be bought up. And then it's going to tank. And then we'll go back to the normal thing, who's going to be left, us, okay? We were here before the deliverance revival, and we'll be here when it's gone, okay? It's a fad right now, it's going to fizzle out, right? Of course it is, and healing, remember, nobody remembers it? Well, if you're old, you will. Back in the 40s and 50s nationwide, what was it? Healing revival all across the country. And they all came out of everywhere. They were all over the country, just like these deliverance ministers are. They're all over the place. Everybody's an expert on deliverance, I mean, it's embarrassing. If you buy that Hammond book, pigs in the parlor in the bookstore there, you have more knowledge than the cumulative knowledge of 25 deliverance ministers on YouTube. If you added up all their knowledge, you'd beat them out if you bought that one book and read it. Not including Gary Prince's book, Prince's book, they shall expel DM. If you read that one and the other one, you'd know more about deliverance than any minister in the United States. It's a fad, okay? It's a fad. Yeah. Can you own your house to protect it from the females? No, not normally. It's possible. But if you have demons in your home, or poltergeists or something like that, they're not going to leave until the person living there gets delivered. So I get those calls all the time. Can you come over and ruin my house? No. Can you come in here and get those things out of you? Because demons in a home are easy to get rid of, they'll just fly out the door, but not with somebody who's heavily infected. They won't leave. They know better. Didn't you watch Amityville Horror? Yeah. You watch that? No. Ah. Amityville Horror, another old. There's so many advantages of being old. I tell my wife that all the time. What it was was this family got murdered in the house. You know that, right? You know this? Yeah. Well anyway, if something like that happens in a home, the demons have legal rights to have that home. And they keep that home permanently. Okay? So if you buy the home, and in fact, I believe four other imbeciles have bought that house since that movie came out. Four other people spiritually ignorant who know nothing about the spirit world bought that house. Oh. And, jeez, demons don't sign leases. If they own the place, they don't leave, okay, unless a believer gets delivered and goes in there and blows them out and then they're gone. But at the Amityville, you remember, a Catholic priest came in, he got beat up, everybody came in to anoint the house, they got their butts kicked. Nobody in the family ever got delivered. They were all loaded with demons, okay? So none of that stuff works. You know, the Catholic stuff is fun, there's a cross for you, there's, you like that? That's fun to do, not going to work. It's not working. That's not working. Like I said, we'll be here when this is over, right here, and then down here, we're trying to give people basic truths here, not sell a bunch of hype, okay? I can't remember, is the Amityville the one in Long Island, you were? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now that was a real deal. That was the real deal. Of course it was embellished for the movie, like they do everything else, but the basics of that thing, that was 100% real. Those kids did get, that family did get murdered in that house. That kid shot his family to death, and that's when they came in. They took that place, and you're not going to go over there and anoint the house, unless you want to get your face kicked in, and I'm sure a bunch of Christians did it. Christians are some of the dumbest people you'll ever meet, because they think they have this blanket coverage, okay? And they do not. Because you have the blood of Christ, you do not have blanket coverage to go anywhere you want to go and do anything you want to do. You're going to get butchered. You've got to be called to go do something, not just walk into a shrine in Tokyo. You're going to walk out of there in big trouble, yeah. And the last place you want to go to is Jerusalem. It's the most infected, demonized city on the planet. Everybody is in Jerusalem, Catholics, Muslims, Orthodox. Everything's there. We need to get on a tour bus and go to Jerusalem. Everybody, half the people come back and tell them, hey, I heard weird stuff in the hotel that night, stuff knocking on the walls. I felt something. Everybody's got a weird story. Do not go to Jerusalem, okay? You're asking for it. The devil runs that place, lock, stock, and barrel, okay? So demons, poltergeists are real, yeah, but anointing homes, no, we don't do that here. You know, I'm kind of lying. If I find somebody I don't like, I'll send them over there to anoint them. Hi, baby. I'm almost done. Yeah. Yeah. Can you ask her what she wants? Tell Karen, okay? Tell Karen. I'll answer it. I'll answer it. I'm Mike, what person in here planning on Jerusalem? No one. Okay. No, no one. Too expensive. Yeah. I didn't even get to that. I didn't even get the expense of it. I'm sorry I left that out. Thanks, son. All right. Now, that's enough, Johnny Carson. All right, now, did everybody get a copy of this itinerary to Jerusalem? Okay. Now, what I was just teaching you. These things in Galatians, these things in Galatians, most of these coming out of here. Most of these are coming out of here. The ones at the bottom are coming out of here. See that? Everybody get a copy of this? Yeah. Okay. Paul, brilliantly, I mean brilliantly. Awesome. Broken down in this chapter. Amazing. Here's the 17 here basically. There's the nine there and so when you go down the nine here, if you don't have these attributes in your spirit, man, bingo. You need deliverance. Some things blocking it like you plug a wine bottle with a cork. It's a self-auditing system. There's nine of them right here. See that? Now, nobody who sees themselves as a doormat is going to have consistent peace in life, right? So, that would be easy to catch. Nobody who's impatient with people and answers their questions for them and doesn't understand why people don't get going, they're not going to have peace all the time. They're going to have anxiety. See that? See how that audits? It's a perfect Holy Ghost auditing system. It's utterly amazing. This is a tremendous sheet to hold for your counseling sessions and you just audit the person and the deficits that you discover in them or they reveal to you voluntarily. You can see where what needs to be fixed. It's brilliant. Holy Ghost, brilliant. Right? Yeah. Amazing. It is amazing. Now these other ones, they're all connected to these three, bang, boom, bang, bang. People doing these things have a seared conscience. Many of these things, hatred, variance, come out of the soul. Many of these are sins that are stimulated by the mind. See that? Seventeen of them. Perfect blueprint for Romania. You take this to Romania. You sit every one of them Romanians down, right? And before you sit them down, you give them a kick in the fanny because Romanians need a kick in the fanny. Then you sit them down and then you audit them. Why did you come? What's your problem? Well, you're going to see this no matter what they say. This is going to be there somewhere. They're a lack of the Holy Ghost manifestations, right? So someone that doesn't have joy would have depression occasionally, wouldn't they? And the Spirit of the Lord wants that out of there, doesn't He? Somebody that had rejection wouldn't have peace and joy, would they? But God would want to fix that in a person that didn't, right, sweetheart? Yeah, he's been hunting for you. There it is. People who don't have meekness, arrogant people, loud mouths, know-it-alls, Bible thumpers. God said this. Oh, what a disaster a Bible thumper is. Have you ever met somebody that's got a lot of Bible knowledge but can't do one cotton picking thing for somebody? Has no spiritual power at all but can quote something? It's embarrassing. It would be better just to have a couple of scriptures in your heart and then go heal. Well, for that's a Holy Ghost. And of course, the number one gift is the bottom one, right? That's the tenth gift of the Spirit, Paul outlined in Corinthians. He went through the nine and then he saved the big one for last, which is agape-unconditional love. Right? And you can't have any of these things if you've got this demonic mindset of programmed responses, chronic negativity, negative emotions. What's that? Why are they more bad than good? Well this covered everything. Nine covered everything. Bad stuff, nine won't cover all the bad stuff state and cooked up. So we needed seventeen of them there. This is the best list in the Bible. Jesus only had eleven on his list. So then Paul expanded it and got them all in there. Fabulous. But you can see the root of it, can't you? When you're talking to somebody, it's coming out as, there's something wrong with her. Conscious, sincere. They've got no check and balance system. Chronic negative emotions, fear, depression, anxiety, chronic negative thoughts, obsessive compulsive thoughts, see that, boom, seventeen, bang, there they are. So I figured this would be a good reference tool for you when you're ministering to others, handy. Figure out where something's coming from, right? Now when you have cases like hers, what's your name again? Terri. Terri. When you have cases like Terri, of course you refer, always go to this chart, okay, and I have a little packet in my office, I need to give you a free leave, I have a little packet in my office for mentally ill patients, okay, you put a little packet together. And of course this is in the packet here from Hammond's book, see, so before she got schizophrenia, here she got, she had rejection and rebellion and fear and loss and so on. All these other spirits were already there, and then they let in the schizophrenia demon and then he took over the whole system. He's the manager now, he's the CEO, see, and schizophrenia demons can actually damage your brain, physically, they'll do a CAT scan on it and something, oh boy, this person's got, you know. I was wondering about that, neurologically they could damage you. Oh of course they can, demons can damage your body, they give blindness, disabilities, physical illnesses, diseases, they'll tear you up, they can damage anything, okay. Once they get in they start tearing you down, mentally or physically or emotionally, and they don't stop until you're dead. And they're not going to leave until you force them out. They will not leave voluntarily, you've got to force them out. Well I'm going to get a new attitude and I'm going to pray about it. That is not going to work, you've got to force them out. You cannot keep sending, yeah. I just want to say one more thing to affirm what you're saying, that you have to force them out. I went on to get a bachelor's degree and a master's degree and became a professor just to try to prove to myself that I wasn't crazy, but even after that they came and they broke my back, I felt like two stabs in my back and I was paralyzed for three months, it just felt like, because I was rented a couple times too, but it just felt like, like a spiritual like butcher knife or something and I just felt two stabs. And then three days later I went, my legs locked up and I went to get x-rays and they found numbers fine, L4, broken bone. Yeah, now what she's really saying, rewording everything she said, she walked out of the church and she stomped like that, remember that? And then God click, healed her brain. The damage that the demons had caused to her brain healed. That's what we're praying for, for your son. He's got brain damage. My baby, brain. But these never came out, see? So today, hopefully she'll stay here and get the rest of these. You look on this chart here and I'm not sure, I don't know anything about her, so I'm not gonna want to say exactly what she has, but these other spirits that let him in, and he damaged her brain, he gave her brain damage. And God healed her brain like that. It was a sovereign act of grace. No, well actually no, somebody was praying for her. So they prayed for her and she got healed of her brain. She didn't get deliverance, okay? That was supposed to come later, see? That's what they try to come back. That's what they try to come back, she says? Of course, they always try to come back when you don't have schizophrenia. If you just have a lust demon, it tries to come back. Any demon that gets kicked out tries to come back. If you don't renew your mind, they will get back in, right? Now because Matthew 11 and Luke 11 says that demons consider human beings houses. They're houses to live in. They're disembodied spirits. They want to live in a house, not poltergeist, amenity veil, those are other demons outside. They're ones that really damage you or the ones inside. They want to get inside your body and control your mind and control your emotions, see? And they will never leave once they get in, unless they are forced out. The only person who can get them out is Holy Ghost. Holy Ghost, it's right here. So when you renew our minds, I would say unplug from social media, stop watching TV. Well it's too late now, the demons are already in, but yeah, you can't keep feeding them if you can get away with that. But normally these kids are now, they've also got mind control spirits and these demons are in their brain and it's now an obsessive compulsive mental disorder. They have to be on, where's my phone? And if you take that phone away it's like taking a needle from a crack at it, they'll freak on you. So if you're sinning and you let in these spirits, if you stop sinning, you're not letting in any more spirits but you didn't get the spirits out that already got in. So that's what we do here, try to get people to renew their mind and get the demons out that got in and then stop letting others in by renewing your mind, right? That's the challenge. That's the challenge. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, of course I know this isn't true, but it almost seems like an unwinnable war. It seems, well at least to me anyways, it seems a little overwhelming. Now did you hear what he just said? What he's really saying to us is when I was young, all this stuff just seemed so hopeless, you know, and this got better but that didn't and I wanted that and it didn't happen and all these disappointments clicked and did you hear what he said? See, so if I could get him to renew his mind here and remove that unbelief and doubt, he would never say that to me ever again or anybody else for that matter. He would never do it again. Did you hear what he said? It just seems, did you hear those words? Those three words? Oh, they're huge. It just seems, I've heard that 2.3 million times in 40 something years of counseling. It just seems, no, when God's word is on the table, it doesn't just seem, that's it, period. And if I can get that person to go over here where God's word is, nothing, no, you don't seem nothing anymore. This is reality. This is true. Don't give me that. It seems crap. I don't need it anymore. I got it. He's, oh, did you hear that? Oh, boy, those spirits are coming out today. Did you hear what he said? That's not him talking. That's something happened when he was a little. Yes, ma'am? Yeah. Does it seem like when you're really saved and maybe really being serious with God, it doesn't seem like some of those demons seem to act up more and get more exposed like she was saying. No, they do it 100% of the time. Now you just said something interesting. You said it seems, did you notice she used that term seems? Yeah. Yeah. Now, if you look at these nine things here on that list, if a person does not have these things consistently, there's no scenes about it. They're not saved. It doesn't seem like they're not saved. They're not saved. See that? Now, if they are saved and they do have these things, but they have all these other things, that's a Christian needs to be delivered. They're emotionally ill, they're physically ill, they're mentally ill, but they do have manifestations of the Holy Spirit here. Well, that's a deliverance issue. Once you get the spirits out, then these things will bloom like roses. See that? So they both use that term, seems. See that? As soon as you hear that word seems, that's a red flag. You've got to find out what's beneath that, okay? What is beneath it? What's beneath it? How were you hurt? How? You? Yeah, how were you hurt when you were young? From why'd she reject you? She was rejected from her mom, her dad. Verbally? Yes, and also really abandoned. Abandoned, and your mother did what to you? She had really thick walls, and she couldn't really mature, she's very distant. What'd she do to you? She's just very cold. And you wanted the opposite? Yeah. What was her mother's name? Colleen. Colleen? So, let's say Stephanie was working with you. Let's say Stephanie, she would remove that. Your mother's in there. Her mother needs to come out. Did you hear that? Yeah. She would be a completely new person in about an hour and a half, with Stephanie, or somebody, yeah. Uh-huh. Terry? I have one more quick question. I would go to my friend's house and leave something there, and the dean was in shape of their bed at night, and he was going ahead of that. You can tell Terry, Terry, Terry's very intelligent. You notice that? Her IQ is like, poop. And she's a co-later, and she thinks all the time. She's a fast thinker. She's sitting over there the whole time up here, over an hour here. She's been following me, clicking and clicking and clicking. I've been watching her. These demons that she has are worse than a normal person. And what they do is they are always telling the person to tell somebody what they did to them. Have you been listening to Terry for the last hour? Am I the only one? I don't think I am. She's always telling us what they did this, they did that, this happened to me, that happened to me, this happened to me, that happened to me, this and that. So when you're counseling somebody, if the person starts telling you all, and they want to keep telling you over and over, all these bad things that happen to them, and it's essentially the spirit's doing it to them. That's 100% her. They did that to her. They stabbed her in the back. They did this. They did that. It's a trick. If a spirit can get you to talk about what he's doing all the time, then he doesn't have to come out. He's stalling. Right, Randy? He's stalling. It's a trick. So what I do is I let him, you know, use a little Led Zeppelin on him. They ramble on. But then at this point here, I stop it. I don't need to hear what they did anymore. Now I want to know what the Holy Ghost is going to do about it. I want to know exactly what he's going to do. That's what I want to watch. But if you let them keep going, if you let them keep going, Steph, they'll eat your whole hour, two hours up. They won't stop. And they're not trying to hurt you. It's not them doing it. The spirit's doing it. He's stalling. He's outsmarting it. Why is that? Because they have this spirit in them, rejection, and most people don't listen to them. And they don't want to listen to them because they don't understand it all. They don't like it. It sounds kooky. It scares them. And so the person never gets to sit down with anybody who will listen to them. And they just want somebody to love them and listen to them. Everybody's like that, right? Everybody wants somebody just to love them and listen to them. I tell my wife that all the time, I need you to love me and listen to me. Then I hear a click. Her computer pops on. Listen, I do. I sit there with them, and I love them, and I listen to them, and then I heard enough. Now in Romania, you don't have a problem. Romanians don't even talk. You've got to drag it out of a Romanian. Do you feel anything? Do you have any emotions? And they clam up. I've actually had to physically assault some Romanians that have come in to see me. Is it a cultural? It's cultural. It's awful. They are very quiet, non-sharing. How do you feel today? Have a lot of rage and anger? No. Don't want to talk about it. That's nothing. They're really hard, but there's no Romanians here. Well, there's one here. No Romanians here, so you are all eligible to open your heart to the spirit of the Lord and be healed. And be healed. Clamming up doesn't work with God. He will not heal you. You've got to confess it. You've got to own up to it. So in that arena, biblically speaking, how would you want to express their emotions? Because let's say I have anger or sadness or grief or whatever. How does one express their emotions referencing what you said in a recent teaching video? This person doesn't know how to express their emotions. But we also want to cast out anger, sadness, grief, frustration. Okay, well, hold on there. Just stop right there. Now, a person of themselves humanly has all these emotions. The demons have all of them, too. So the question is, you cannot cast anger out of a human because it's a God-given part of their soul. Anger is a good thing. Demonic anger that's been perverted is a bad thing. Love is a good thing. But a demonically perverted love is a bad thing. You're going to end up with six husbands and five divorces. On and on it goes. See that? So you can't cast out the human being out of the person. You don't want to. They would be a cyborg or they'd be institutionalized. You want the spirit exaggerating and exacerbating those emotions out so they can have a normal soul. I mean, if somebody came into your house and shot your dog or your kid, you would be angry and well suited to be angry. That was a God-given trait to be angry. Okay? I don't like your dress. Oh, if you're fuming over, they don't like your dress. Wow. You've got to go through deliverance now. A dress is not a dog or a... Are you with me? Yeah. That's demonic anger. You don't like my dress. Not Josh. I got this from the Obama collection. Come on there. Barack, come out. You can't cast the person out of themselves. Okay? So half of what she said was right. The other half was wrong. And it doesn't matter because she wasn't listening to me. She doesn't listen to me. In closing, are there any other questions? Terry again. Uh-oh. I just wanted like desires. Are there such things as people's desires? Are desires mutual where you can't cast out people's desires? Do you cast them out? No. Yes. Now look, normal desires are God-given. Right? I desire food. I desire love. I desire companionship. I desire this and this and that. Those are all good things that God gave you, those things. Perverted desires. I want ten wives. Joseph Smith, like I said, I could have ten. Muhammad had four. I want four. Perverted desires are based on the lust of the flesh and demons pushing it. So you can cast it out in person? Well, you can't cast your flesh out of the person, but you can cast the spirits pushing it out of them. It could be a seared conscience where a person's mind likes rotten things. Okay, well, they got to repent of their sin, get saved and renew their mind. Then you can cast those spirits out. Everything that's bad is not demons. Demons aren't everything. Some of it's flesh, some of it's poor training, some of it's childhood abuse, whatever it is. You can't cast a wounded soul out of somebody. You can cast wounds out of the soul, but not the soul out of them. If you did that, they'd die. That's a God-given soul. This is how God built you, right? You want your soul healed. You want your spirit empowered. You want your body healed. You want your mind renewed. That's what you want. And you're going to help people do that. You're the minister and you're the person that cares and you love them and you're going to help them. That's what you're going to do in your ministry. You're going to help people. Yeah, Amy. Will you please explain to new people here what renewing your mind exactly means? Well, that's a long Bible study, but the short version is positive. If God thinks something, then you think it. In my opinion, it's this. In your opinion, it's that. What is God's opinion of it? What is it? I'm going to adopt that opinion. That's a second grade definition. A description where she just asked me, I'm going to think like Jesus does. Oh, Bob Larson years ago, what would Jesus do? Well, you've got to think before you do something. So what he was really saying is what would Jesus think? The mind of Christ. And that's your mind of Christ. What would he think? How does he see it? See? And then you can tell the sickness a person has. Okay? So he's sick because he sees himself there. God, not even for a second, ever saw him like that. Right. So he thinks opposite of what Father thinks. Father likes him. He kind of has some doubts about himself. Dormatsville. Well, that isn't true. And that's not him. So if we could get him to come over to Father's side, we could kill that Dormat and kick that thing out the door. We can't lose this thing. Injection. It's a root of injection? Yeah. Childhood. Something happened in this childhood. You rejected himself. Self-rejection. Yeah. So I work with, from third grade to eighth grade, hello to children. I have seen in the talks that we have, I'm blessed to work as a teacher in a faith-based school, Christian school. But there's still children whose parents don't believe and whatnot. But I have heard the rejection. As a teacher, do I have authority to not only pray for them, but maybe find spirits that have rejection? Well, that's a tough question. And it depends on what we're talking about here. But do you have authority to pray for them? He just asked me 100%. You got authority, honey, to pray for anything you feel needs a prayer. Period. Whatever you decide is what God will go with. Can you cast demons out of kids in your class? Probably not. No. Because the kids didn't get the demons on their own. The parents or somebody loaded them in there. Can you bind their demons? Yeah. Temporarily you could bind demons in another person. You can do that. Yes. But you can't cast demons on somebody who likes their demons. Right? I had a weird case. I'll tell you a sanitized version of the story. Honey, I plug your ears up. She and I used to attend a church, a prophetic church years ago. And the minister at this church was a good-looking guy, pretty young, like in his 30s. He had a nice anointing for prophecy. A great Bible teacher. Man, he knew the word like you wouldn't even believe. And the anointing at this little church was fantastic. This was, well, I don't remember now. But anyway, I had my prison and jail ministry back then. And I would travel all around the state going into these different prisons. Casting demons out of these convicts. My wife and I used to have a A-dot card. Not from being criminals, but we got volunteer cards. Remember that? Yeah. She's trying to forget. And this church was so anointed. I couldn't believe it. I would go there. And I used to use it as a filling station. I would just go there and get recharged and reloaded. And practically every Sunday night, I just got plowed down the hall by the Holy Ghost. I was on the floor. It was so fantastic. Praise God. And we went there a few times. And I started to get attacked with lost demons. And I started noticing a couple women in that church. I thought, man, those are nice looking chicks. One of them was married. And I'm going, wait a minute. What is going on here? So a year or so later, a scandal breaks out. This pastor was having an affair with a young girl in the church. She had two kids. She was about 10 or so years younger than him. And his second wife left him. And then we found out his first wife, he cheated on her. She left. Then other rumors popped up that other people in the church were having affairs. I couldn't believe it. And then it broke. So the board got together and said, wow, we got to shut this down. You've got to go into rehab. We had left by then as soon as that thing blew out with the man. I need to leave. And I was on TBN with a guy. He was a host one day. I was on TBN. He interviewed me years ago. But anyway, the board tried to rehabilitate him. And halfway through it, he said, no, I'm not doing it. So all the preachers got upset and everybody left. He then went right back to pastoring the church, built it up again a little bit. And then married another woman, great Bible teacher. Wonderful spirit in that church. Great. A lot of good people in that church. People really liked it over there. He was a really nice person. Very likable guy. Had me speak over there once in a while. I have a teaching about what happened in the prison. Some guy fell down and this guy jumped over a chair. This happened. Everybody loved hearing the prison stories. Loved it. If I ever get in a bad mood, I'll tell you those stories. Maybe next month. It was wild. Wild. Nothing came like here. This is nothing. These prison altercalls, preach, you wouldn't have believed it. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe my eyes. But anyway, that's a different story. What was the point I was making for Thomas? I told that story I was making a point. You yourself got hit with lust demons. So you were getting attacked by the demons that were attacking him. Well, they were through the whole church. I found out later that we were all getting plastered by them. But I had a point I was going to make. I just lost it. You got married for the third time. No, that wasn't a point. What was the point I was making? You got married for the third time. I don't know. I bolted. I had nothing to do with it. I was out of there. Speedy Gonzales gone. But I had a point I was making. Thank you. The Minnesota people came through for me. The Romanians have not been helping me. The Minnesota people. All right. That's the point I was making. Say that again, sir. Say it again. Can I get somebody to deliver if they want to keep their demons? Thank you. That's why I told that story. I just looked over here and I'm in trouble when I get home. So I'm going to have to get to the altar hall. Call here quick. He didn't want to get delivered. He didn't want to stop that. He would not submit to rehabilitation, so to speak, with the other pastors. They wanted him to do things and learn things and go through therapy and, you know, how the pastoral restoration doesn't work, but I mean, you got to go through the system. The guy needed to get his lust demons out. That's the only thing that would have saved that minister. Okay. But he was a super man of God. Just fantastic. And had a beautiful prophetic anointing. He would give some decent prophecies over there that nailed somebody that was really, really great. He was something. You know, I think he had a nice gift of healing too, but years ago, downtown at TBN over there, on McDowell and, you know, East McDowell. Yeah, 32nd Street, McDowell, TBN. He would go down and he worked in the healing room. So he used to have a healing room down there. And he was one of the past ministers that came down and prayed for people. A lot of people were healed. Yeah, see, and so I told you this before, and I'll close with this. Your anointing and your giftings have nothing to do with your integrity. So you could have a very anointed person who has got low morals, conscience. You're saying it's okay to pray because she was talking about her students. Yeah, she can pray for anybody she wants to. But you can't cast demons like, that was my point. Thank you. You can't cast demons out of somebody who wants to keep them. Yeah, Taryn. How did Paul cast that spirit of defamation out of that? He was attacking her. The demon was attacking Paul and Paul punched his lights out. Self defense. That's a different story. That's deep. That has nothing to do with this. I'm talking about free will of a person. You cannot cast... Well, you can't do anything with a person if they want to stay sick because they're getting benefits out of sickness. You can't force them to get healed. I think that also it doesn't have to do with her parents, the children's parents as well, the covering as the parents so she can't get involved with like students and stuff like that. Well, no. Well, I'm not sure, but her students, most of them were probably unsaved. So the only covering there is just more sin. Everybody's sinning, right? But if she did, let's say that she decided to become sister Edder, which I hope will happen. Okay, I'm dropping hints here and I'm not getting any response. Okay, so she... And she just blows the demon out of the kid. The kid still has to go home to a demon-infested rat hole. You follow me? But what we do here is when we have our children's deliverance service, the parents bring them and then we kind of sneak up on the parents during the service. Try to hijack them because that's how we're going to save the kid. Even demons out of kids is easy. The parents are a problem. They're tough. So aren't you putting them at risk if you deliver them and not the parents? Yeah, you're putting the kid at risk. So let's say she blows demons out of a kid and he goes home and the dad's a warlock and his mother's a prostitute. That kid could get worse. So we like to try and get the parents, get rid of them with the group. That's the best way to do it. Then you can't always do it. But if the kid is manifesting in class, she has the authority to bind the spirit. That's different from casting it out. She had... Is she okay? Yes. What happened? Yeah, just movement. Oh, okay. You can bind a demon or you can't cast it out. There's a difference between binding and losing. There are two separate subjects. Binding and losing. The other Greek were dao and luo. Dao, chain them up. Luo, unchain them. Dao, time up. Luo, untie them. Right? Come here. Okay. Let's close in prayer. Father Godden, I had some great questions today and I thank you for that. It's been a good session. And I pray that any person who looked at this list, the Holy Ghost list, these nine things are a representation of your character. Your character. And if anybody here today needs to be delivered from a spirit that's blocking any of these nine things from manifesting, I pray for someone here today who doesn't love. They like, but they don't truly love. I pray there today for their healing. I pray, Lord, for anyone here today who has temperance problems. They have trouble controlling their mind or emotions, their behavior, their attitudes. I pray that spirit that pushes them to do that will be removed. I pray, Lord, that everyone here today who has deficits, they no need to be healed, but they don't have the humility to come forward and be healed. I pray that you will forgive them and you will touch their hearts. I pray, Lord, each person here who lacks faith because it's being blocked by fear, doubt, and unbelief. I pray for their deliverance today. I pray for everyone here who has integrity problems. They're fantastic at church, but when they get home and they're alone or when they're under stress or they're going through trials, their character, their character waffles. I pray, Lord, for every person here who is lazy and has no endurance, long suffering. I pray, Lord, that you will heal every person here who doesn't have joy unspeakable and full of glory and the peace of God way down deep in their hearts, just like you said. Amen. I just prayed those nine characteristics of the incredible Son of God. If you opened up the Son of God's heart you'd see all nine of those flowing out of there like a river. That's him. All right, now let's have the ministry team come forward. Come on up here for me and help me here. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Jesus. All right, turn that light off. Turn that light off. Thank you, Jesus. Give you praise, Lord. All right, now if you fell into one of them categories you're going to deficit in one of those nine. You're going to come up here right now and let us pray for you. You're going to come up right now and you're going to let us pray for you. You're going to come up right now and let us pray for you. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, dear Lord. Thank you, sweetheart. I'm glad you did that. Thank you. Close your eyes. Add a girl. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, dear Lord. God wants you well. God wants you well. God wants you well. Yeah, there we go. Coming out already. There it comes. God wants you well. There's a rack of hurts in here. A rack of them. And they are going to leave today like you won't believe. This one. All this pain. Everybody's criticizing her. Running her down. Not accepting her. Not listening to her. Right now, spirit of rejection. You in the name of Jesus are coming out in the name. There they go. Come out in Jesus. In the name of Jesus. I command you to come out. Your spirit of rejection. Right now, go. Come on out of there quickly. Right now. Move out quickly. Quickly come out of that body right now. There he is. Let's go. Come out of there right now. Come out in Jesus' holy name. Come out in Jesus' name. Come out in Jesus' holy name. Come out in Jesus' holy name. Come out in Jesus' holy name. Could you like to hold that muscle guy? Come out right now. All right. Come on. Come on out with that body right now. Those two ladies, next to you. You know them? Yeah. They're very hurt people. You know the reaction. and they're too afraid to come for help. You see him sitting there? Am I right? Am I right? Yes, you are right. So, guess who's supposed to help? Thank you Jesus. There it is right there. Let those wounds out. There it comes. Let your tears go. Come on now. Let your tears go. Come on sweetie. There it is right there. Come on now. Father God, I have your servant here. She's supposed to be helping others. She's not supposed to have spirits and wounds and negative thoughts and impatience. She's not supposed to have that. Come out spirit. Come out right now. Come out. There it is right there. Come out right now. Come out right now. Hurry up. Come out right now. Come out of there. Satan loose your hold. Loose your hold in the moment of God. Let go of your head. Stop blocking your healing gift. Stop it. Come out. Come out. Come out right now. Come out. Satan loose your hold. Come out of there. Come out of that body right now. Quickly. Every negative word spoken against you are criticized. Come out of that body right now! Don't stop. Take a breath and blow. Satan come out, come out right now, come out, go in Jesus' mighty name, go in Jesus' name, come out, come out of that body right now, come out of that body right now, mind control, come out of my head, there it is, there it goes, come out of that body, out of that body right now, Satan loose your hold, get out of that body right now, hold it up, come out, Satan come out, hold that, hold that, come out there, hold that, come out right now, Satan go, get out of there, come out, come out in double, come out of that body, Satan loose your hold Can you tell me the name of the person you said that is like a female deliverance person? Eder, Eder, Eder Was this your Eder? Yeah Yeah, Mary Wordworth Eder Oh, I want to know about her The most anointed human ever in America At the top How do you spell her name? E-T-T-E-R Mary Mary, oh E-T-T-O Because I want to search, yeah, there's a couple things that I don't know, like they mentioned that happened here Like I think it was the revival that happened before or something like that, I can search it up