 Are we live? Jan, you're good to start. Thank you. And welcome to this session with the Add Your Country to the Wikidata, Wikiproject Gov Directory, I think is the full title. And me and Albin here today, can we get Albin on screen as well, will today try to add an entire country to Wikiproject Gov Directory. And here is the page where you start. It's linked from the etherpad that is also in the session chat. And here's how it looks. And what we're going to see down here is a number of different countries. I'm going to click in on one of these just to show you what it is. So for example, Sweden, which is very well-modeled. I think we have everything in there. How it looks, you can see there are agencies of different levels. Sorry to see you. The idea with the entire project. Sorry, could you just make the screen a little bit bigger? Sure. Yes, I can zoom in a little bit. And of course, the entire idea with the Wikiproject Gov Directory is to collect all the government agencies of all the countries in the world, just a little bit ambitious. Just the right amount of ambitious for Wikidata. Exactly. And we'll take a look at a newer thing like Iceland here, which is not as well-built. There's still a little template here in the top. Some useful links. We have the ministries coming up, some courts, local authorities, and some coverage here. So we're going to go through this and see how we can do this for an entirely new country. So starting from scratch here. And there's this list of Wikiproject countries subdivision, which you can take as a starting point to find out is my country already good? And this can be a lot of work, depending on what the state of Wikidata is. Now, we already checked here that Peru is quite advanced. So we're going to start out with that. And do you want to explain, Albin, what we're doing now? Yes, now we are creating one of those pages that you showed. And we've got this nice little feature here that you can just type in the name of the country. And it will do a bunch of stuff for you. So let's see here. Here we go. We get this little template here. And we have to know that Peru is Q419, of course. Do you know that by mind or? No, I have cheating notes here. No, some people are the country stats. Yes. And then, of course, here, every time it says country, we will change that for Peru. And we're going to go in here sometimes as well. And here, I already know that this is going to be 19. Here, it's going to be 196. No, not the first level. That's just 25. Hello. I may ask you to explain in a few words what you are doing and why what's the benefit of having a country in a Wiki project called Directory? Because I'm lost. You start from a screw. I mean, what's the aim of it? Can you maybe elaborate a bit? The aim is to get Wiki data fully covered with all the governmental agencies. And of course, we want to have full coverage for Wiki data because we want to have info boxes on the different. Because all of these are notable. So that's why we're doing it. And this, the Gov Directory is just the name like the Wiki project. Country subdivision is a project name. So that's why we're doing it. OK, so the purpose is to have a nice info box in the Wiki periodical for each country. Not only for each country, but for each municipality, each province, each county, each government agency, environmental protection agency, each court, and so on. So it is going to be like thousands and tens of thousands in the end. Only for Sweden, there's like 768, I think. And there's numbers that John is typing. For example, it was 19 ministers. We add those numbers to really keep track of how many ministers, for example, we expect to come through to how. OK, thank you. And here I just added Peru in a couple of changes here in the template, which we got. And when I start publish this here, we have the starting point for Peru. But of course, this is all sort of still empty. And I really would say that don't go start empty pages like this if you're not intend to keep working on them, because that's just going to make it hard to keep track on where work is actually happening. But if you're about to add the query for all the ministers of Peru, of course, or for your country, then go ahead. So we have done a little bit of the Chef trick here. And we've already written this query. And I'm going to zoom in a little bit more here so you can, oh, no, that was out. Hello. Good afternoon. My name is Khadija. I just want to know what is the use of putting up the countries for wiki data if there is no wiki media in that country? For example, if a country does not have wiki media. So what this has nothing to do with that? This is what we're going to display. Like where are we going to see this? Like, even if there's not a wiki media in that country, there's still going to be articles about the things on Swedish Wikipedia, on English Wikipedia, on French Wikipedia. And of course, we want it on wiki data anyway. So this has nothing to do with the wiki media affiliates and chapters like this. So of course, we want to have articles on ministers of Peru in all the different languages. This is not just for the chapters now. And here we have an item on wiki data for ministers of Peru. So this gets very easily queryable. And we see there is 19 different of these here. And we can see that you have this trick here where you have set the title for the query, where you put in the expected number as well. It makes it super easy to compare if you go down to a result. You just have 19 in the result count, as well as in the title. Exactly. And then we're going to take this little nice query and we're going to head back over to the page here and actually put in the query so that others also can use it. So this is sort of like a way of sharing the query with everyone. And a great thing to do here in case you have the abilities to add a source, preferably an official source for this count number, because they also change all the time when they add ministers or remove them and so on. Yes. And we're going to do a similar thing here. This was the ministries. And there's also regions of Peru. It should be 25, it said, on the country subdivision. And here's the region. So we'll see. Hopefully this hasn't changed since yesterday. No, seems to be correct still. So these are the different regions of Peru. And then we can also go grab the query here, go back over here. And for each of these, the template just says first level because the name of these are different in all countries. But here we can say regions now when we know that it's regions. So now we have two things done. Sorry, let's see if we can make. Excuse me, just a quick question. You had agencies in the title and in the string that you just replaced but you just replaced it with the regions. So is that intentional or did I miss something? Yes, yes. So each region here is an agency in a sense, in a broader sense. It's a public administration. So that's sort of an agency. And usually these have elections or something like that. Yeah, that was not very clear. So maybe I will try to see if I can contribute some initial documentation for the term agency being using that broad meaning. Ah, yes. It differs a little bit between countries and countries as well in some places a region might not be a government agency, in some it might be. In some levels, yes. Yeah, it varies. And we'll just see if the same is true for provinces. That should be, so this is the second level should be 196. We have an item on wiki data for province of Peru and let's see, it was 196 it says here. So today we were lucky. You might not be this lucky with your country. There might be some missing. There might be some old ones still lingering around without an end date. So those are a few things that you will have to figure out. Yeah, they're really tricky ones tend to be when there is like one off. You need to find a single one, which is the bad one among hundreds sometimes. But usually it's quite, quite straightforward. Very much depending on what sources you have accessible. Yes. And now we have a few, we have two levels sort of done. These are usually the most common that you have two levels. Some countries only have one, some have three, some even have four. So it depends on how large the country in is and how bureaucratic it is in a sense or maybe bureaucratic is the wrong word, how it is divided. I think if you head over to the page about Germany, you see a lot of levels if I remember correctly. Yes. And now optimally we will also have all the government, other government agencies. Now we don't have them for now and we don't have a good register yet, but that is also an excellent thing you can help out with finding the good sources. Where are there the official registers for these? Because that will make things much easier and really all of these three that we just added, they should have better sources rather than us just checking Wikipedia to see was this correct as of now? An official source would be better. Common example for orchard government agencies even include things like courts and so on. And then this is mostly sort of like the level that we would like people to get up to before we also would say this can be included on the external webpage for Wikipedia directory. So if I head back up here at one level, this is of course valuable for Wikidata in itself that we have everything structured. But to make it even more usable, we sort of made an extraction of this on an external website that shows this in a little bit of a nicer way. So for example, if we head over to Singapore perhaps since we're there or you are there, this is how a webpage could look like there. So we get some basic things retrieved from Wikidata and then we see all the different ministries and what kind of social media they have. And if we go down on one of the ministries, we also see their website link, phone. We don't know who is running this yet. And here we see all the links to the different things. So that is what make this possible for people to actually connect. And it tend to be that when you got two types of government agencies on the Wikiproject page, then it's good enough to be published. Yes. So then we will head to the talk page here and leave a note for someone who can actually add this. And if you're sadly with GitHub, you can actually go ahead and do this yourself. But if you're not, just go to the talk page, add a new topic and say something like do we add a new topic? There we go. There we were ready to be published. Is that a good enough message? Albin would we understand that? Indeed. And when you would do this, the most likely John or I would see this message and have a look at it and work towards publishing it. And then if you like to keep track of this over time, we'll head over to something like Iceland here. You can add these Integrality Templates so that you can actually see, I need to reload this to get it in English. This Integrality Template where you can actually see, all right, how many has this, the date of different kinds? Right now we can see here that not many of the municipalities has any contact information on social media. They all have the websites. We know who is running them. So that's a good start. But this is a way to keep track. And then you can also do Listerialists. I'll show that on the Swedish page, I think. You can do Listerialists to see changes over time more easily where you have all of this. I think that's mostly what we wanted to show today. So if there's any more questions, you can take them in the chat or on the etherpad or... Yeah, I would have a question. Be a Desterman here from Switzerland. Hi, Jan. Hello. I was wondering whether you're still in a snapshot mode approach or whether you're already thinking of how to represent changes over time, like changes in names, but also changes in responsibilities of these agencies. Then what we're seeing is also changes in administrative territorial units. Like maybe you can share a few thoughts about that. Yes. So this is mostly to be the keeping track of the current state because that is at least what first we want to have in the info boxes and also what we're using on the Gov Directory page as a contact. So that's the current things there are. But of course, for WikiData, it is important to have all the historical as well. So we're keeping track of that. We start and end dates usually and sometimes also with replaced by properties. But those are not coming into these queries often. But of course, for WikiData and for Wikipedia, it's crucial to have them. And a big thing when we're in the new country and usually the thing to spend most time on is actually cleaning up those historical government agencies and making sure they got end dates and start dates or replaced by and so on. Yeah, I can see that. And I mean, I'm fully aware of this, but then also at any time, the first change might happen compared to your first snapshot. How do you become aware of that? You know? Yeah, what do you mean in real life or on here? In real life? And then how do you represent? I mean, can see it's very easy to create a snapshot entry and also to fit that into any apps. But then next month, they are changing something around and you have to represent it in WikiData. So you have to become aware of that. And then your tools have to be able to manage the way this is going to be represented in WikiData and should be harmonized across all the countries and so on. There are a couple of tricks that are currently incredibly useful. One is that because we base this off the SparkL Queries, it usually does a lot of the work for us with the start and end dates in case someone writes a new Wikipedia article about a new institution, it usually ends up in WikiData with the current information. And then we can see that in the list there are lists and we can see that another page was created and so on. And another trick we use is because many countries actually add government agencies or remove them on specific dates, especially in Sweden, we have two dates a year when the exchange usually happens and we try to keep track of those as well. But that's a little bit of a trick to keep track in real life what's happening. So what we do for Sweden is that we actually have an RSS feed from the government to see any press releases about new agencies. And they usually announce a couple of months in the head and it's gonna start at the 1st of January or the 1st of July. So that's the way we work with it. But that is a tricky part and also tricky to do it for a country if you're not actually very well into it. I live in the Netherlands, but I still have a hard time keeping track on all the municipalities getting merged and split. We have to end the session. So thank you very much. I don't know if you want to say one last word before we cut the stream. No, just if you're interested, you can poke us. We are online. We're very active on Wikipedia and use the talk pages. Yes. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you, everyone.