 It's lower 48 centric, huh? No, about Hawaii Prejudice rears its head again. It snows, but you have to go all the way up on the big island. Yeah, it is it is not Not in the top 25 Alaska the number 25 Flint, Michigan. So add that to the brochure Well, Flint, you know Fortified water holding it down Bad snow Yeah, the reason why it is because it is the Because of how weird the weather is it's the lake effect snow So effectively it does not stop snowing in the winter until Lake Erie has fully frozen over It's one of those weird weather phenomenons So it just dumps like when it gets bad in Syracuse. It is the worst snow I've ever seen in my entire life granted not like everyone's grounded can't get anywhere. Don't even try a type thing like yeah, like over the car Fully packed in You are locked down for a week and a half. So you still just laughing at us from Alaska Amos is like Alaska would be like I I'm trying to find it and the closest number I can come to is 72 inches average snowfall in December in Valdez, Alaska, which is like For me, but I know the ones because they're always they're constantly getting snowed in so I knew it had to be out there So in states as big as half the continent, you know a lot of room to work us with yeah We only we usually get a couple feet a couple times a year here I had a roommate When I lived in San Jose who was from Erie, Pennsylvania Wonderful person, but she was like wait like all she ever said was like it's so cold and snowy You you Sarah you wouldn't last a week. Yeah, I believe you Karen So I try you guys ready for a show Yes, although the image right Valdez 300 inches of snow annually that is pull that of Syracuse. That's some snow All right Justin Robert Young if you would be so kind oh indeed as to read line three Here we go three two Thanks to everyone who supports Daily Tech news show directly to find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday, August 16 2018 in Los Angeles on Tom Merritt and from studio feline. I'm scooter Lane from Oakland, California I'm Justin Robert Young and our producers are with us today Roger Chang and Amos both in the house Roger. We missed you Thank you. I was missed. Wait. Does that make sense? You missed us? Yes. That's that too Thank you. You're darn right. You miss me is kind of I don't feel like that's fair By the way, thank you. I was miss is a memoir turned into an indie darling film, right? I Have a good word to that Amazon wants to buy a movie theater. We're gonna talk about that. Let's start with a few tech things you should know Cryptocurrency investor Michael Turpin filed a $224 million lawsuit in the US District Court in Los Angeles Wednesday against AT&T Over alleged fraud and gross negligence over theft of tokens from his personal account now Turpin claims that on January 7th 2018 the tokens were stolen through a digital identity theft of his cell phone account and that AT&T Was his service provider at the time and is liable at least in some sense the three million stolen tokens were worth 23.8 million dollars. This is again according to Turpin Who is also seeking 200 million dollars in punitive damages. This is why I always see the post office when my check gets lost That's right. Hmm Firebase which Google acquired four years ago is rolling out updates to include in-app messaging customization notifications predictions and Google analytics Developers who use Atlassian's Jira will also have integration tools through fire base crash Litics data which Google acquired from Twitter in 2017 can also be exported to big query to be analyzed Firebase cloud messaging and the firebase consoles project overview page have gotten design updates as well Intel just launched its next wave of nucks. That's thanks for next unit computer. They're like Mac minis for Windows The new ones have 28 watt 8th gen Intel CPUs and iris plus 655 graphics handle some 4k monitors multiples of them for USB 3 ports one USB C and HDMI 2.0 a and a pair of say to 6.1 giga Per second ports both versions support m.2 SSDs But the larger one also supports two and a half inch say to SSDs You can get core i3 i5 or i7 versions and they range from 300 bucks to 500 bucks But if you're not familiar keep in mind nucks don't come with RAM storage or an operating system Hey Yeah, waited waited a whole whole minute to say that candle supports that global shipments of smart speakers are on the rise in a big way 187% you over year last quarter with China accounting for 52% of worldwide growth Elibaba and Xiaomi accounted for 17.7 and 2.2 percent respectively overall Google leads the way with Amazon Seconds I Think that's actually 12.2 percent. Oh, yes. I'm sorry. Whatever. I said Strike it and reverse it. Let's talk a little more about Twitter and Story that I covered on buzz out loud in 2009 Developers are mad at Twitter over changes in the API Everything old is new again Circle Twitter sent a company email stating that the technical and business constraints have led to Shutdown legacy API's the email said the user streams and site stream API's were we're still in a beta stage after nine years Twitterrific noted that the changes mean it will no longer be able to stream tweets send push notifications or update the today view New tweets and DMs will be delayed by a couple minutes Well, and that's the that's the case from tap bots as well Which makes tweet bot which is the Twitter client that I use on my Mac on my iPhone I've been using it for years None of this is going to like be debilitating for my Twitter experience Okay, DMs. I don't get notifications about well. I have notifications turned off for the most part anyway if my timeline is Delayed by one or two minutes. Well, if it's a breaking news situation that might matter, but usually it doesn't So this is you know at first when I read the story. I was like, oh man Like I just bought the new tweet bot was $10, you know the new Mac version of tweet bot None of this really changes things, but it's interesting that the third-party developers all say the same thing Hey, the old API was buggy and sucked and Twitter just doesn't have a new API That's that's updated enough for us to take advantage of so our hands are tied It's not really Twitter saying goodbye to all these third-party apps But they're clearly they've they've devalued the relationship Yeah, and for all the stuff that Twitter is in the news for right now with the fresh hell that they are dealing with It is amazing that there has been a decade of them not being able to Figure out exactly the relationship they want to have with these third-party apps Which really got the platform started from the very beginning and and I'll add to that and yet These apps are still there. You like and they're not like well We're folding up and going home. They're like well You won't get notifications anymore But we're still gonna keep plugging away at it because even if it's less than 1% according to Twitter enough of you Use us that it keeps us going. Sure. I mean, you know a lot of these companies They've been doing this for a long time like toy almost as long as Twitter itself Ten years and then they pioneered mobile Twitter, which by the way, we now just know as Twitter right All right, let's move on to Melbourne, Australia where a teenager Reportedly broke into Apple secure computer systems and is now facing criminal charges after Apple turned him into the FBI The children's court This is in Australia heard on Thursday that this teenager had downloaded 90 gigabytes of secure files and accessed customer accounts Arrayed on his family home last year uncovered a barrage of hacking files and instructions all saved in a folder titled Hacky hack hack He also did it because he's a fan. I love Apple so much. I'm gonna hack into them It is I mean it is the kind of story that at one time Would have ended, you know with the Cinderella like and then the Apple hired him, right? I don't know that that's that's where they're gonna go these days. Apple doesn't have that kind of sense of humor Maybe they never did but but I mean this obviously is a talented individual I don't think they were trying to be malicious, but also you can't expect to get away with that if you get caught We're in a weird situation and it was funny I was talking to your this the friend of the show Darren kitchen of hack 5 earlier this week And we were talking about the difference in hacking that there is the the era of oh, I'm gonna Really I'm fascinated with how my toaster works and that turns into figuring out how to hack a database and that figure And then you do some little thing that you think is just a clever or you know A clever patch around to do something interesting and then it turns into something illegal Then that's kind of going away and what's going to replace it are like formal trainings for these kind of things I think this isn't another changing element of what we understand to be Info sec that now sure this kid is smart and hopefully there's some kind of you throw the book at the kid for for doing something like this, but The attitude around this is getting more Corporate espionage or even if we an idea that we can wrap our head around a little bit more like shoplifting Then it is oh look Billy was able to make a clock out of a potato My science project I hacked 90 gigabytes of secure files from Apple here. They are Yeah, I almost feel like this is a rare story. We were full of rare stories today In fact, maybe it's just me But I feel like way more things talked about at CES this year are actually shipping Multiple times this month. We've said remember that thing we talked about at CES. Well, you can get it now When does that happen? Anyway? Johnson and Johnson's gloss thermostat GLAS the one with Cortana built in the one that I think many of us Maybe myself included sort of like yeah, we'll see of that ever ships You can pre-order it right now in the US for $319. Now that does Yeah, that does make it the most expensive smart thermostat on the market beating out the echo B4 by 70 bucks But for that money you not only get Cortana build in but supposedly compatibility with Amazon and Google Assistant as well well and Forgive me for being naive about what a thermostat does besides its primary function But that is a very expensive thermostat even if it's smart Yeah, yeah, that could be for us $249 the nests are usually below $200. So yeah, it's it's it's pricey But you can yell across the room Cortana What temperature is it outside? Well, but I would just that hopefully the reason why you're paying $300 for it is that it does more of the cool Thermostatty stuff that I I don't have a smart thermostat. So I don't know what the pain points are the cool thermostatty stuff To me is the stuff that you get in all of them Which is you can set it from an app even when you're not at home You can program it to know when you're at home and when you're not to help you save money And you can generally just tell it like hey pick the the optimal Cooling for me so that I feel comfortable and I'm not throwing dollars out the boy And you know what the other one of my nest does that I love is it reminds me to change the filter in my my furnace So I guess Maybe hopefully I don't know if you're paying a hundred extra dollars for it I hope it wouldn't just be for the the the voice assistant that that it it's from the multiple voice assistants and the amazing design I mean it is Definitely the prettiest smart thermostat I've seen well then that that counts for something When we were at CES DTS Roger and Tom and I Justin I didn't think you were there this year But but but one of the things that we all sort of took away from it is like wow Google Assistant is really integrated into a lot of these upcoming products, right? Some of them either will or will never make market But it was you heard about Google Assistant quite quite a bit It's not surprising that Cortana and of course Amazon's Assistant as well would be part of this but but yeah, there were a lot of a A lot of things that were announced to be coming at CES that sounded great and you're right Tom A lot of those have come to fruition again I think it's like it's a skill that's you know integrated into a speaker that already existed maybe more than you know Some vaporware hardware that we've seen in the past. Yeah Police in Washington state made an arrest in a fatal hit-and-run case After part of a car headlight originally posted to Twitter was identified by a reddit user Photograph was shared in the subreddit. What is this thing? Which is dedicated to identifying obscure objects plants and animals? That led to the following line being written on the official BBC website quote Jeff who goes by the username slash you slash Jeff's nuts Responded to the post identifying the black piece of metal as a section of a quote Chevy Silverado headlamp bezel and quote Jeff used to be a Maryland state vehicle inspector on August 14th Washington state police trooper Johanna Baptiste posted to Twitter that the detectives made an arrest after quote Reddit users identified a photographed broken car part We did it ready. I'd love us all I mean in a world where reddit usually means trolls or falsely accusing bombing suspects to a lot of people where social media is generally assumed to be a place of fake news I'm not saying this is a trend or that it refutes all of those statements All I'm saying is it's nice to see this happening. This is the power of reddit and the internet This is what it should be used for. I mean, there's a lot of nonsense on reddit But we have seen this before on reddit where it's like the redditors of whatever subreddit band together and like Solve some mystery that the rest of us can't figure out or you know authorities that it you know are on the case can't figure out So kudos to Jeff. I'm not totally sure how he did this but again He actually has history figuring out these types of things. So, you know, he's not necessarily someone who was just like Oh, I know what that what piece of that car is because it doesn't look like much if you see the photo It's like, I don't know. It just looks like a piece of plastic or yeah He recognized where he used to put his screwdriver when inspecting headlamps and adjusting them Which was part of his job and was like, hey, I think I recognized that one I bet it's and he I think he had two or three guesses and then he narrowed it down and he was right like this is Craftsmanship at work. This is a skill. Okay, this is human This is the human ability to to learn and recognize and help out. Yes, and Let me just say that reddit is there's an old Patton Oswald routine about when he first got a Tivo and how he's like Oh, this is great It'll record things that I like but those first few weeks are like he watches one Western movie and then the next day he has 19 hours of force put it and he's like, I don't want that Tivo aggressive Reddit is imperfect oftentimes when they are wrong it is in big situations But certainly the power of the hive mind is Important and impressive when leveraged in the right capacity and listen man if Jeff's nuts, he's my kind of crazy Jeff we salute you Moving on to sony which announced that it has sold three million PlayStation VR headsets as of the end of last month Now it's quite a bit more than at the end of 2017 when sony said it had sold two million units meaning Okay, it sold another million units in the last eight months Sony shipped 29 21 rather 0.9 million at psvr games and experiences The psvr has 340 games that are now available And sony says of those games the best selling VR game to date is the elder scrolls 5 skyrim vr Which came in a bundle So that probably has something to do with it at least followed by playstation vr worlds rec room and resident evil 7 biohazard Uh, so compare that to 70.6 million ps4s that have been sold In total that's a lot. That's a high percentage of people with playstation 4s buying a psvr Uh, I I think this speaks to the idea that people don't want to have to set up a thing Uh, and and yeah, if you have a high end gaming pc the oculus or the htc vive aren't as big of a jump Uh, and a lot of people do but you still have to Install the right stuff and whereas the playstation vr It's like oh well I have a playstation I plug this thing in and I play it even if it's really not that much easier which I can say it really isn't There's a lot of wires involved in the psvr. The concept is I already have one thing I just need another thing whereas htc and oculus feel a little more di y what some people may like Uh, I think that's why oculus go Uh is easier than the gear vr because I don't have to put a thing in it And I wonder also see big sales for the oculus go because of that appeal that mental capacity appeal I I love vr. I think it's a it's it's still unfortunately a very emerging market Uh, which is frustrating for somebody that's had a system for for a little bit because I really want better cooler More immersive games and more money to go into their development Uh, but certainly this is a good step forward to it. It shows you that there still is an interest No matter how much we want to assign the narrative that this stock is up or down People still want to experience their games differently Folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe but to daily tech headlines dot com So, uh, we heard a story a while back that netflix was Flirting around with buying landmark theaters landmark theaters owns about 50 theater locations in 27 markets They're in big cities like new york, philadelphia, chicago, la san francisco They generally focus on artsy stuff. Uh, the the independent films Uh, they will carry mainstream films, but but they sort of spin that way They have lounges and coffee shops and stuff in their locations And they market themselves towards cinephiles basically they're owned by wagner cuban. Uh, that's mark cuban and todd wagner And those two mark cuban has avowedly said yeah, i'm i'm looking to sell landmark theaters But you know, we're not a hurry So the latest rumor is that amazon is in the running to buy landmark theaters that would give them the chain uh and A lot of there's a lot of things we're going to talk about regarding like amazon and their different approach to online movies Manchester by the sea for instance had a regular 90 day run in theaters before it went to prime video But it was an amazon production But the one part of this that i hadn't really considered earlier today When we were talking about it on your show jerry uh There was a 1948 supreme court case called us versus paramount pictures often referred to as the paramount decree That decided that movie production and exhibition companies in other words the studios and the theaters Had to be separated. This is why you see all these old fox theaters, but they're not actually owned by fox Yeah, because in 1948 the court said yeah, you can't do that anymore The decision was over the legality of a federal consent decree to claim certain practices Uh, which were found to violate antitrust now some of them were about block buying The ability to say well if you take this movie you have to take that the studios are currently prevented from doing that sort of thing On august 2nd the justice department said it's considering abandoning the consent decree since business conditions are much different than they were In the 1940s, so there's there's two ways amazon could go into this there are Certain ways you can maneuver around the decree and have production facilities and own theaters Uh, I don't pretend to understand all the nooks and crannies, but but for instance, uh mark cuban He owns landmark theaters, but he also Owns hd net which makes movies, but I guess they don't run into the theater So I don't I don't know how that works But it would seem to me that amazon wanting to release movies into theaters as an amazon studio means that they would be in violation This decree unless the justice department decides to roll it back Which I would guess that they don't make this move unless you know In the tremendous amount of money that they spend on lobbying that they have some idea that this is you know that the The the temperature is right Obviously, I mean the this court case in 1948 was at the height of the studio system. There were a lot of questions about the contracts and and ownership of uh, you know Actors and actresses not to mention the intellectual property and and union busting that kind of went on in hollywood at the time so Things are changing The idea of a brick and mortar Place to go see entertainment is not the slam dunk destination that it once was We're probably very close to seeing a lot of different Changes and mergers for these kinds of theaters uh, I I'm very curious to see what amazon sees in it and where they see it integrating uh, uh, this is now The brick age of amazon they are the whole foods Of amazon's movie strategy for right, you know remember back way back in the day when the whole foods, you know first came on Whatever scene I was on it was like, uh, you know, it's like the hippie-dippy grocery store And now it's a huge chain and amazon bought it and yeah, I still shop there So if you think about landmark in the same way, it's like, okay. Well amazon has all these original movies Um and tv shows and who even knows what this is all going to look like Let's just say that amazon ends up buying landmark then you can have red carpet events at your landmark theaters showcasing your new series or your new movie that's sort of that Uh, um again kind of indie it's still in the same realm that landmark was known for so Uh, you know folks like me who want to go to the movies would go there and amazon just happens to own it It it sounds complicated But as a theater goer it sounds great for amazon. Well subscription Plans are all the rage these days imagine if your prime subscription included a certain amount of movies at landmark theaters every month Oh poor movie pass Almost soon rest in peace It might be I mean like that that might be an element here that they want to bundle a movie Into prime and I wouldn't doubt it that would fit in it, but that's like to me. That's what's most interesting about this Is is the question of where does amazon see this going because this is not just about landmark and it's not just about whole foods This is about them saying Okay, we've got obviously all the money in the world We are now looking to cement the next, you know if amazon before was like, okay Let's just keep reinvesting in aws keep reinvesting in our logistics keep reinvesting in in uh, how we get people into the store That has made them the gigantic company that they are what seems to be happening now is like, okay, well Where there's only so much we're going to be able to do that and people are going to copy what we're doing And they will get better and better on the web. What can we do with this money now? That a lot of these companies that aren't necessarily insolvent right, but are just facing rockier roads ahead How can we fold that in? Now and that to me is fascinating to see what their grand plan is with these brick and mortar establishments Well, and they also Can use it as a way to learn more about the business which can help them get their own movies into other theaters Landmark is one of the the few chains that will show a netflix movie in theater The way netflix gets oscar consideration gets award consideration Is it finds theaters that are willing to do it and landmark doesn't always but has Shown netflix movies before I think a beast of no nation was shown in landmark theaters It would be interesting to see if that continues could amazon use that as some kind of leverage with netflix To say okay, well, we'll show your day-in-date releases in our in our amazon owned landmark theaters But you have to do x for us and I don't know what that would be I would I would suspect that specifically if this is still a touch-and-go legal issue Uh that there would probably be some assurances that they're going to play fair If if this is a rule that they are going to change Well, but they could very easily block netflix movies by paying pointing to amc and cinemark and regal and saying They don't show netflix movies either. That's industry standard. Let let let's also Uh, you know these theaters Are uh, you know at least the ones here i'm looking here in the bay area But I would assume that these theaters were initially Family owned that were then purchased by landmark that they are a company that has taken smaller I know that that's the case in a couple. I'm not sure how many of the 15 I don't know how many new ones they've built, but a lot of these are You know the the one closest to me is in piedmont. It's showing Uh of eighth grade three identical strangers and the mr. Rogers talk, right? So two documentaries and and a hot indy movie I don't know and this is why they I think landmark has rocky roads ahead is forget You know just the larger trends of people not wanting to go to movies But we're in era now where every amc every regal is playing those three movies. There's there There's there's there's smaller and smaller Is the the niche market that you either can't see on vod You can't wait two seconds to see it on netflix or or amazon or whatever And you can't see it at one of these massive 24 to 25 screen multiplexes not to force you into disclosure But what if this becomes an esports venue as well? Well, although the uh closest landmark to me is showing the new mission impossible movie showing black clansman the new spike lee movie So it's yes most of most of everything on the roster is kind of indy and most of them I haven't heard of but some of these are are are blockbuster movies. Well, but also like This is how weird Our current movie situation is is like you just said black clansman the spike lee movie about uh, uh Undercover, uh clu-clux clan operation, which would through most of my adult life be the Indy movie it would be the movie that would headline the indy theater and now that's a blockbuster That that that's a big ticket, you know number one movie the wheat kind of thing I I know I don't want to move on but I just got to re-emphasize this is going to be if amazon does this It's going to be used for more than just movies. They're going to make this an event entertainment space amazon lockers at your local landmark Yes, well Something I would probably use not even kidding. I I don't doubt that and I think that There is again. 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My favorite cereal is probably hunting at cheerios. Okay. Hey keep keeping it keeping it keeping it. Uh I don't part of the legacy the legacy cereal I was not allowed to have very sugary cereals as a boy So I don't have a tremendous affection for uh, you know, lucky charms or or apple jacks apple jacks Yeah, no, I really that has as sugary as it got was uh frosted mini wheats what And even then it's like that's pretty sugary and they weren't very good No, and and it's like yes, it was sugary at the cost of eating shards of glass of your mouth I will say that at some point they really stopped pushing hard on sugary breakfast cereals Like that there are noticeably fewer Um selections of like there's your cocoa round cereal. Well, yeah I mean, they still they still sell the general mills and kelox versions, but You know, I think it's it's not like oh, we can't buy cookies anymore But it's a little bit more of like cereal may not be the place to you know add as much sugar as possible Uh, but yeah, just and I'm With you that I didn't have access to a lot of the stuff. I was very fascinated as a kid Yeah, but there were even like certain cereals where I'm like tricks or like not good What is this? I I also kind of feel I will say that honey net Cheerios milk might be the best byproduct because it has the right amount of Sweet and the honey mixes really really well with the milk. So I think if you're just talking about it, we're just to rank The milk byproduct after a bowl of cereal It's those couple gulps at the end that really set it over the edge. Yeah, that's I mean to me That's probably 50 percent of cereal Right, it's true. What does the milk taste like and you're good enough at eating enough cereal So there's a little left over. I don't put milk on cereal What What does what do you mean? I don't I just eat cereal dry. No, you don't. Yeah, I do Apple jacks in the bowl. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. No, I don't I reject this So wait like your entire life your entire life Your mom would just pour you a bowl a dry as bowl of cereal and you didn't need to put a lot for it myself Tom, I mean you had You had lots of chances to mention this yesterday But it never really came up the whole milk part of the discussion never never But that's what cereal is. No, uh, it's not I think cereal without milk is something else entirely That's just a I'm I'm with tom like I'm cool with cereal as a snack being dry I don't think if you're like just use like I can I can see just a handful of cereal Uh, what I can't see is that being like the breakfast like I'm gonna have My first meal of the day is just a bowl of dry cereal very very dehydrating tom Uh, I didn't like the cereal getting soggy. Well Yeah, that's why you have to eat it really fast. I didn't like to have to eat fast I preferred I didn't like a lot of condiments on food growing up either So I didn't like, you know, I didn't put a lot of mustard Did you like if there were like three things on a plate? You didn't want them to touch No, I that I did that was and it was not like that. I didn't mind if stuff touched I didn't intentionally mix it or anything. But yeah, I wasn't that obsessive I just didn't like the complication. I just like I just want to taste the cereal I like the taste of the cereal and I want the milk getting in the way But the milk is part of when they formulate it I'm not trying to say you should do it this way. All right. Listen, I'll I'll give you a healthy breakfast. I enjoyed Don't tell me I'm wrong There's no matter wrong. We're just taking a bath. There's no Except he's Tom's wrong. Do they still make wheaties if they do take a box of weedies I think they do make weedies. Yeah, it's the olympic You know, whoever wins like the gymnastics is always on the right dad We used to buy that crap and enforcement to eat it But I found a way I would sneak out and occasionally buy those little Small cartons of chocolate milk and I would use that instead of regular milk So I could at least get some Sweetness in it. I'm not saying I never ever by the way, what are we calling this show? We're oh I like one, but I'm not sure if I can say it Oh about solving a crime. Yes. No, uh amazon pre-orders theaters Yeah, well, that's a good one. I like that That's good. Yeah Or amazon's landmark. I like that one But it's not amazon's landmark just yet. Yeah. Yeah, they didn't buy it yet save that one for when they buy it All right. Hey tom. So you got a big wide dust bowl Wow, this is a you you go spoon or are are you just doing hand over fist spoon? I again, I don't really even eat. See I don't know when the last time I actually had cereal was but when I was a kid Uh, I would I would go spoon I had a red bowl pour my my cocoa pebbles in and then eat them with a spoon a red bowl a red bowl A red bowl. I was like the color red. First of all, like You don't like sugar And Like a red bowl everything about this is very confusing hands of vodka Just to make it fun. Yeah, why do you need milk? You've you've got all the I was drinking red bowls of vodka Before first grade so so okay So I was while we were talking about this I'm thinking like is there any cereal that I would just eat dry? And it would be fine checks mix that started as a cereal, right? Well, it became sort of a snack item. Yeah The mix is taking the cereal. Oh the mix was not part of the original cereal. I see I always like checks And also a nice crunch checks mix is savory and checks. Oh, that's oh, I see Barely was like a cinnamon. By the way Meg merit My older sister would constantly berate me for not putting milk on my cereal I don't have a problem. This was a morning ritual of why don't you put milk on your cereal? That's disgusting. I don't have a problem with the dry cereal I do think the fact that you used a spoon to eat it is It's a little sauce Justin. Yeah, I'm too far A little sauce. You gotta you gotta eat your uh, you gotta eat your cereal with a utensil. I'm not Not a savage. There are there are rules. Exactly, Raj We need to do a snack It's not a snack. It's my breakfast But you have to have prepared the way you I don't think it's a breakfast anymore, Tom You were just eating a snack. We're just eating potato chips for breakfast We're the spoon like a savage Tom who is giving you flashbacks of and and Meg would probably be like I maybe said that once I didn't say it every morning I I don't know. I don't know what the weirdest thing And I didn't have eight for breakfast, but I ate such weird things for breakfast. So like this actually What? Yeah, I mean it was pretty much cereal for us Monday through Friday And then the weekend dad would make bacon and eggs that My mother um, and I you know Love you mom you you you kept me from being an adult until I absolutely had to she made me breakfast every morning Um, I mean until like I went to college It was like and she would go to work before I was kind of like done getting ready half the time But the breakfast would be sitting there that what it is, but whatever she gave me is what I would eat You know wasn't like what do you want? It's whatever you're getting So sometimes sometimes that would be a grapefruit It was already cut for me. Sometimes it would be top ramen Sometimes it would be a quesadilla And that's about it My parents stopped cooking anything as soon as I hit the junior high Then it was like I learned how to make scrambled eggs and with toast bread put butter on it eat toast and eggs Yeah, I mean Anything on a stove until I left home They never made me breakfast other than like setting the box out and the vitamins would always be next Oh, yeah, the flintstones. We always had flintstone. Oh, I knew one of those. I actually ate one too many and I got a runny bloody nose Why? Because your blood was too thin or something Maybe too much iron. He's snorting your vitamins. Don't do that No, I eat like I ate a couple of freds and maybe a two barney's like five Is that just the one that his sister was like, yeah, all the barneys back and he got a bloody I actually never had like the cool like I had to have like the It was like big people vitamins Fluoride so that you don't get cavities. There was always a fluoride vitamin C and then like fluoride pills Yeah Hmm, and I never had a cavity So my dad thought that was from the chai comms. So he didn't floor florida florida fluoride It's usually used as a topical agent, which is why it's in toothpaste and mouthwash Well, a friend of mine the other day was like mentioned something about some great toothpaste and he's like and it doesn't have fluoride and I'm like I like fluoride I don't have cavities your teeth healthy. Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out the fluoride works when it goes in your body Well, who cares? It's very very small cares. It's fine. It's fine. I'm fine, roger But I but I do remember kids who didn't take fluoride pills. I don't know why I did I guess that's kind of weird, but The rest of them were always having yeah, they were well, they were vitamin fluoride rinse Okay, this was yeah, this was a vitamin that you would take every morning That I don't know. I guess the dentist prescribed or whatever But like all my friends who didn't take fluoride always had cavities and I was like just take fluoride And then you never have to like be afraid of the dentist And brush your teeth floss and that too too much junk, right? Yeah Don't eat, you know Honey bunches of votes Well, as soon as they discovered cereals every morning and I never had a cavity as a kid Well, aren't you special some just saying like some people just have better teeth than others. That's that's true I have hard enamel. I was at gum problems, but not Enamel well as you get older your adult teeth your permanent teeth are generally of have harder enamel than your baby teeth Should have to be a little more um, but there are also I mean there are Adults that I know who have great dental hygiene beautiful teeth and they're always getting root canals But it's like it's not it's they're not they're doing everything right They're doing everything that they can do correctly, but they're still, you know, they have these teeth problems where I'm like I don't even know what a root canal is it sounds terrible though. It is it's terrible Yeah, some people just like root canals Maybe yeah, they're just choosing it. I I had a root canal probably about three years ago And it really wasn't all that bad. It was just kind of like every surgery. Yeah Give me the drugs. Yeah, maybe that's what it is I love them It was all local like they just they just numbed up my face and then drilled. Yeah I guess it's probably it's probably more of It's the sound and the time spent right so it's like sure if you're numb and you're not in pain You're not no it still hurts. It still does Especially if they have to get to your pulp of your teeth. It's just still connected to a nerve I don't I it didn't didn't really hurt for me. I don't know I'm you had a root canal was but you like dental technology and the ability to gotten better Yeah, I I find the one thing I hate about modern dental technology is a sonic ultrasonic pick When they clean your teeth Because it vibrates through my jaw and it's a high pitched sound in my ear drum I like it because it feels like it's cleaning things extra hard. I mean, I don't mind the cleaning I just hear it through my jaw. Yeah, you don't it's like Asked me she's like does this bother you and I was like no, it's fine. She's like it does bother some people So I always ask and she won't use it if it if it's really bothersome I mean, I don't mind they use it, but there's like no you can't put earplugs in because it's traveling through your skull the noise Yeah, it's just one of those. Yeah, it's that It's it's nailed on the top board. Yeah, I just cannot deal with it Well, when I had to have a um A wisdom tooth pulled out not that long ago Because I had one that was like still in my head after getting them taken out years ago They numbed me. I didn't feel anything But I heard The ripping out of the You know, yeah, and it was like halfway through it. I'm like, I can't I can't do this can't and she was like Sarah, I mean we're halfway done like please just let us finish It was like really simple and we're taking it but it was the it was the sound of it that was awful Even though I felt nothing and now folks it wasn't a big deal We don't really mean to do it this way But if you want non pain dental talk stick around patrons for the audio, right? Yeah, it'll continue video folks Go take an ibuprofen