 I am Es Devlin. I'm an artist and stage designer. The beginning of my creative practice was as a child, I think as most people's is, in order to entertain myself and to spend time, I guess, it was always making things. My days were spent either making things out of cardboard boxes, simple materials, practicing music. I wasn't particularly good at music, but I worked really hard. So there was music and there was making things. There was drawing. And that became a rhythm and a sort of day to day quality of life that was sort of what I thought life was. I didn't think there were too many other options. Curiosity, I would say, is the defining. If you ask me to describe what is a creative life, it is a life expressed by constant curiosity and constant awareness of the fact that there's more to learn. And that actually to be of any service in society, the first thing you have to do is learn and keep learning and keep seeing things through the perspective of others. That's what the practice has evolved into now really is a determination to keep recognising that my perspective is just one of so many and the best work in learning other people's perspectives is to be curious to read, to practice, to make, to respond to things that I read and learn.