 So, there's an interview with Hillel Corrin. He's one of the head developers of Invoice Ninja, an open source project that we use. And it's a great interview if you want to get behind the scenes and talk about the development process in there. Great set of developers. And I'm talking about this because we're still using Invoice Ninja now. And we started it in February of, started testing it in February of 2018, went live in March of 2018 and never looked back. It was around version 4.2 when we started, we're all the way at version 4.5.6 right now. So, it has been a great project and the interaction with the developers has been awesome. And I don't like, first I want to dispel the myth that people looking for open source software are just looking for a free ride or free things. That's actually not true at all. Matter of fact, I don't mind donating time, money and effort into open source projects to make them better because it is a community effort and they really have a good model here. Now, the improvements from version 4.2 to 4.5.6 have not changed the general interface. So, all the videos I have done previously talking about our workflow and things like that have not been impacted by the updates to Invoice Ninja. Matter of fact, all the updates have gone really smooth and it's all been a lot of feature enhancements. It's still the same really nicely laid out using Larvel as a framework on top of PHP with some underlying Java and MySQL as a database backend for those of you who want to know the technology it'll all be detailed here. But this is our test site that we have set up and it still, you know, it works really well. I still like the interface and everything else. But let's talk about a couple of things that are different since I did my video originally. Since my 4.2 install, they've enhanced the proposal system but we still don't really use it a lot so I'm not, it takes a little bit of effort to get it set up but it's pretty cool. They've added a lot more import options. So you can import from different invoicing platforms if you want to move to this one. And they still of course support all your exporting your data and being open source. If you're self hosting it, it all goes into a MySQL database that you completely have access to. And one of the other bigger enhancements they've done are some of the client statements. And this has been really nice because being able to have clients log into the portal give them a statement of all the work you've done show outstanding invoices and aging charts to them and let them sort it out when you have a disorganized client. Great feature on there. They've also, cause one of the complaints they had was some of the auto address lookups based on zip code. They fixed that. They've also just lots of little UI enhancements. For example, when you're adding items, the little slide downs that come out to give you the details of the items as they auto complete inside. So when you're creating a new invoice and you do the mouse over for this, you can see how it shows you all the details before it fills in. So my other reviews of the product are still true. It's also just talking about some of these added enhancements. And I like doing follow up videos to let people know that I'm still using a product and I'm still as excited about it. We're not in the search for another product. Matter of fact, that's been the best part of this is the interaction with the developers when we say, hey, can you do this? And people join in and we come up with ideas, shared people using it, come up with ideas to make the product better than the developers. Well, they like listening to their users and creating better products. I just want to do this follow up and talk about, hey, check this out, I'll leave a link to Floss Weekly and the interview with them so you can kind of get an idea of the philosophies and design behind it. And it's, like I said, been a very good experience. Now the other nice thing that they announced in the air, but I knew from speaking with them in the forums, is they built this on tools from five years ago when they started the project. They still plan to continue on with Larville on the same look, but they're going to be going through some retooling in the back end of it to improve the system even more and based it on some newer, more modern ideas. Now, like I said, once again, complete transition. So these updates will come for free and it's still open source and it's still their plan to continue. And I'm going to continue supporting the project in any way I can, including I have a whole series once they do the read update of the system. I'm going to be doing a new series on modules for how we use them and how our workflow is. And the ones I have now are still going to be relevant, but I just wanted to update people who always ask, hey, what are you using for invoicing? We're still using invoice ninja. It still works really well. The integrations just keep getting better. We've been actually starting to play with some of the Zapier ones and look at some more automation tools to help deal with people who contract us like from here on YouTube to kind of make that transition even smoother. Because our traditional way is normally just creating an invoices on an as needed basis. They have some more automated tools to create them for us. And like I said, these guys just keep pushing their project forward. So I still get them a thumbs up here in November, 2018. Still using a project, still really excited about the new backend worry work they're doing. And they're fast. I don't know when the real estate is for this yet, but the coding and revisions on these are really fast. They do a great job and they do it without breaking things. As all the updates, as I said, from four or two to four or five, six were it today. Perfectly smooth. And I don't even worry about it. I mean, I still back up, of course. Please don't ever not back up. But I've never had to restore from a backup through each of these version upgrades. And that's pretty impressive for a fairly in-depth payment system that we currently have over 22,000 invoices and 6,500 clients. And so it is held up well. It is working well. And I'm looking forward to the future with them. Thanks. Thanks for watching. If you liked this video, go ahead and click the thumbs up. Leave us some feedback below to let us know any details which you like and didn't like as well because we love hearing feedback. Or if you just want to say thanks, leave a comment. 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