 Yes, come in. Thank you, sir. Mr. Sena, are you working? No, sir. So, you finished? Then, so what have you wished to do? The civil service provides, in many ways, a unique opportunity to directly participate in the process of nation-building and it provides a good career opportunity as well. Great. So, it combines both a good career and as well as opportunity for public service. Yes, sir. So, what qualities will you bring to this job? Sir, I feel I am a man of principles. I feel I can think practically. I have a problem for new approach. And I think I can bring efficiency, good integrity, as well as other factors which I think makes me a suitable candidate for it. What is the GDP growth rate of Jharkhand? The nominal growth rate is about 12 percent. The real growth rate around 8 percent. Good. So, it's very good. How is it that it has been able to register such good growth rate? So, one important reason is that we have a lot of resources and if we have the right policy framework, then these resources can be utilized. So, that is happening by our schemes like momentum Jharkhand and we have other kinds of investment promotion schemes. That's one. Secondly, one main reason where Jharkhand improved itself was the agriculture sector by improving the coverage of the agricultural revolution to the eastern side of India. And Bihar and Jharkhand both improved in this. Thirdly, because of the formation of new state of branching, our construction sector, new city capital of branching, the construction sector in particular, it was posted by a lot. And that in turn held the growth, the state to grow up by about. Yes, sir. Can you tell us how does our constitution ensure and guarantee social justice? So, the main is widely articles of article 14, 15, 16, which combines the principle of equality with justice whenever required. On top of it, we have special provisions like article 29 and article 13, which ensures social justice, even including article 25, 26 for the people of religious minorities. Yes. Similarly, article 39, article 40, 41 and the other directive principles. They in turn incentivize and nudge the state to ensure that social justice is undertaken. Okay. Can you tell us, what was this Indira Sahani judgment? Sir, the core idea was about the reservation of people from the OBC category. And regarding that, the Supreme Court upheld the reservation for the OBC category while stating that reservation based on income cannot be allowed. Okay. That was the first time OBC was given reservation. In the central level. At the central level. Yes, sir. Now, OBC stands for other backward classes. How did caste come into picture? So, there's generally correlation between caste and class. And it was believed that caste and class, the backward classes also make up the backward classes. Secondly, the principle of cremilare and the principle of non cremilare, it explicitly introduced the object of class into the past. Why do we need all India services? So, the principle idea is to have a universal brotherhood and synergy between all the states of the country, as well as the center and the states. So, to uphold the federal principles and to uphold the integrity of the country, all India services provides a good link. And secondly, because they have served across many states across the center, it helps to reciprocate some of the best principles in the other states and at the central level as well, sir. Okay. The representation of people act. So, some provisions to keep away people with criminal antecedents from the electoral politics. Can you say something about that? Yes, sir. So, basically any criminal who has been penalized or who has been convicted for a jail term greater than two years is ineligible to participate in the election for the next six years or so, I think. The exact year, I think. Six years after he completes the sentence. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And there was a judgment by the Supreme Court, Lily Thomas. Are you aware of that? What was that judgment? So, the judgment basically changed the article 8, the section 8D of the RPF, and it said that earlier provision was that anyone could apply for an appeal in the Supreme Court and a three-month window is provided for that. At that point of time, in case the appeal is upheld, in that case, they won't be outlawed. It is discriminated between sitting and legislated and just last. Yes, sir. What is the controversy with regard to electoral bonds? So, on one hand, the controversy is that there is a lot of anonymous funding. About 69% as per the ADR report, 89% comes from the corporate funds. So, the question is that electoral bonds will help to ensure that white money comes in the system. However, the controversy from the other side is that it still does not solve the issue of corporate funding because the people definitions have been brought in. Thank you. Thank you. Abhijit. Yes. Economics is your option. Yes, sir. If I put a, if I make a statement that it's a loan waiver, I'm not a loan waiver by some states. It may be good politics, but bad economics. Please say something about this. What do you say? Do you agree or disagree? Whatever you say, you just disagree. Sir, I agree to a significant extent to it. It is good politics because it's a popular vision. It helps to mobilize boards. It helps to mobilize the aspirations of the people at the bottom. And in that way, the political dividends can be high. It may not be a good economic policy because of the reasons that this creates a problem of moral hazard. And in future, banks may be unwilling to lend to these poor people. Secondly, it also creates a lot of, it raises the stockpiling of the non-performing, performing assets in future. And the government fiscal costs also increases. In that way, the economic costs can be high. But nonetheless, in extreme times, I think we need extreme measures, even as the Supreme Court has recently said. No, no, no, no, no, no. In extreme cases, sir. How do you mean extreme cases? Every time, you know, farmers are having distress. They have, they have stress. That means, you know, there should be low labor every year. Sir, I think we can have an objective criteria. So, you know, the government would always like to, the government of the day would always like to say, this is an extreme case. So, you are neither here nor there. This statement is a political statement. Sir, we can have a threshold. Like, for example, if the broad level is above this, is this more interesting. Okay. Yes. What are the main thrusts of this budget? If I want you to say three, four major thrusts of this budget. So, the principal thrust is on the head sector. And in that, we have the Ayushman Bharat Program. No, no. You name the thrusts. Health. Health care is one. Education is another. Agriculture and rural development is another thrust area. And fourthly, we have the MSME sector. Okay. Tell me, in agriculture, what is the budget thrust? But all have been announced in this budget. Agriculture. Yes. So, one major announcement has to be to raise the MSP level, to level of cost plus 50 percent. That's one. What is this cost? The cost currently, the government says is A2 plus 7. However, many want it to be raised to the C2 levels. Okay. Then, that is one is MSP. So, what else? The second is the operation greens. What is this operation greens? It's a program to ensure that three crops, tomato, onion and potato, their production is increased and price volatility is reduced by providing some FPO's, whole storage units, et cetera. Thirdly, we have special missions for bamboo. We have funds for the animal husbandry sector and the fishery sector together. What does that have to do with bamboo? There's a national bamboo mission and I think 10,000 crore has been given to expand the animal business fund and the scheme. And lastly, sir, we have a provision to expand the global market, global money under the program of grams and to connect more of them to the key numbers. How many? At the exact figure, I don't know, sir. Okay. So, 22,000. Yes, thank you, sir. Okay. So, these are the things in the agriculture. Okay. What is Sagar Mala project? So, it's an umbrella project to ensure that a port infrastructure and that is modernized, modern ports are created. The evacuation network is improved and to ensure that industries and special zones in the coastal areas can be set so that even the people living in these coastal areas can be improved and growth and development can take place. Anything about the hinterland? Yes, the evacuation network is also improved so that the connectivity from the hinterland is expanded. Oh, great. You're from Jharkhand. Yes, ma'am. And we hear about the LW in the left-wing extremism. How is it that your state is still really under this problem? Ma'am, the main reason why we are still dealing is because I think there is rest in an empty mind and that can happen if there's a lack of education, if there's a poverty. And if there are genuine concerns like land, area, nation, environmental concerns, mining related to specific issues. And this provides a fertile ground for maxillites, propaganda to spread. Secondly, nonetheless, ma'am, we are, I think, improving on that figure and the cylinders, the total number of casualties, all are seen as significant improvement. So we are behind, but we are improving. And there's something known as the red corridor which still exists. What is the red corridor? Which are the states which are affected by LW? Red corridor is basically a region which is still under the significant control of maxillism. So we have states like Bihar in Jharkhand, Odisha, Chattisgarh, Telangana region, to some extent, and some in India. Not so much. Okay, tell me that your state is very rich in resources, yet it hasn't progressed, especially even since transportation. What is the reason? Ma'am, resources are a necessary factor for good, but they're not a sufficient factor for good. You also need other kinds of resources like water, we need other kind of improvements like the infrastructure should be good. What about good governance? It isn't, in fact, very good governance. Politics. Yes ma'am. Yes ma'am. So altogether, this is only for us to ensure that we can leverage our resources. So you studied in Kanpur. Yes ma'am. You would have seen the Ganga development. How clean or dirty was it? Very dirty? Not very dirty. My expectation was more, but I think because the volume of the river is very high, the visibility is sometimes less. So we have a lot of schemes. We've had a lot of schemes over the years to clean the Ganga, and now we have the latest known as the Namami Ganga scheme. Can you tell me something about this scheme, the Namami Ganga project? Ma'am, it's basically a scheme to ensure that Ganga and the institute trees are clean and sanctified. We have many schemes. What are its components? One is to expand the infrastructure, such as EV scheme in France, make the villages around it open deputation free. We plan to replicate the Sicheval model for this. We have special forces to ensure that the pollution, etc., does not take place. We're also working on having some right equipment, such as thrashers and schemas to reduce the pollution, etc. No, no, etc. One very important factor you missed out. Behavioral change. Change in the attitude of people, because otherwise we revere our rivers, but we still pollute them. So that's one of the most important factors. Now we have global challenges which are unfeasible. Can you mention some of them? One big challenge is man-theatism. One big challenge is protectionism. So globally, the economic growth is also still not very high. It's compared to pre-2000 years. Fourthly, there are issues related to log formation. For example, China, Russia is one log. Environmental challenge is another global problem. So these are the main problems. What about drugs, money laundering, trafficking? One of these are important problems. Now my last question, on corruption. How can we reduce corruption? We already have institutions. We also have provisions in law. How can we still... We are still very corrupt. So how can we reduce this? Can you just give me two or three measures? The laws are all right, but we need more implementation, and for that we need to send in our regulators. So that's one. Two, I think that behavioral change is very important. Never mind behavioral change here. Now what else? For corruption also, we need man to ensure that those actually found out for corruption, they must be prosecuted. Speedy prosecution, okay? Even those... They are discriminatory powers. That's one of the most important. The rights of the people, if they are aware that could also probably be done corruption. Transparency. Good. Okay, thank you. Of the central structure, always when it is coming, they release the GDP data for the third quarter. Are you aware of that? Yes, sir. How much of growth has been recorded? No, in the third quarter it has been 7.2%. 7.2%. This is very significant. What accounts for such a high influence? So one is the base effect, because last year this was the time when certain disruptions had come, and because of that, we will increment in this year's growth. Secondly, manufacturing sector, agriculture sector, agriculture sector has gone over and above 4%. All three sectors, including services. Yes, sir. But primarily, it must be... we are writing, it is base effect. Yes. Okay. What are the headwinds for the economy? Right now it seems positive, because we have... I mean, the prospects are positive. Because our country is valuing... digitizing the greater formalization of the economy. That question is mentioned in the headwinds. I am sorry, sir, but I don't exactly... No, no, we don't... Problem areas. Okay. Certain main problem areas come from the fact that inflation can rise in the economy, given the old prices rising, given that the fiscal situation has increased for certain times. Yes, sir. And... Another major problem can be that this course has came from the base effect. It may not sustain in the future, especially because international growth rate, international protectionism, all are rising. So this can be another area of concern. Anything else, which is already... everyday... Yes, sir. It is gradually rising. Will it be rising or it is already rising? The... It has risen, sir, but as far as we compare the 2007 or 8 levels, it is still much lesser than that period. So it is more manageable, but it is indeed a problematic area, sir. Okay. Old sector, very recently, government has made certain announcements, policy announcements. Are you aware of that? Yes, sir. What...what kind of decision has been made? Sir, the main thrust has been for the private sector to allow the mining of coal sector, not just for captive purposes, but also for any other purposes. What is the significance of this decision? It is expected that this will increase the competition in the sector, the monopoly you see here will reduce, and when that happens, this should increase the efficiency and the availability of coal for a power plant to improve. The overall mining efficiency, the overall improvements in this flow of technology, flow of money, etc. can or should improve for that, and that should have a significant supply side as well as demand side for economy, sir. Right. Last question. Covering. Recently, our Supreme Court has given its verdict. What is your take on that? How significant is that, and what kind of law points have been made with this argument? It is a significant measure, because this is the first time that Supreme Court is aware, instead of doing this matter, doing special e-petition. So this can have both positive and reverse consequences. But given that, they have also focused on saying that reverse and national heritage, national importance they have. That is one of the points they have made. And in the end, they have tried to make sure that Covering Management Board is implemented here. So we hope that the future lies a little bit into this for the tools. And basically, they expanded the ambit of the previous Retribution Award to include the effect of water, the water demand in Bangalore, the groundwater availability in Tamil Nadu region. So this is a more holistic measure. In that respect, we expect that this is Water demand in Bangalore is primarily on the board. The rising organization and the growth of this. Is it in water? Yes, sir. So that helps to give presidents over and things like that. Yes, sir. What is competition commission of India? Sir, it is a regulation. Under the competition commission of India in 2002, I think, which basically aims to ensure that competition levels in India are prudent and monopoly if any can be done with it. Oh, thank you. I can present some paradoxes. There are two or three major paradoxes which one sees. Can you identify those paradoxes? I'll try to, sir. So one is in spite of the availability of the resources that is not going well. This is a paradox from the resource point of view and the resource curse has come. Your statement is not correct. It's a risk stream, a 7.8% growth. And you say it is not going well. Who was the US, sir? Who are you talking now? The second paradox can be that even though we have a lot of demographic differences. Anyway, that paradox doesn't seem to hold good what you're talking about. That it is very rich, but it is not going well. Economically, it's going very well. And other paradoxes? One paradox is from the point of demographic dividend. We have a lot of human power available with us, but in spite of that, people are migrating abroad. In spite of that, since jobs are not being available, demographic dividend is transforming to a certain extent to demographic curse. The other paradox can be from the point of maybe environment and availability of water. We have not been able to exploit it or utilize it to a good extent. Constitution provides certain rights and safeguards to tribals. Can you identify constitutional provisions which give these rights and safeguards? Yes, sir. So one is the basic principle of Article 14, 15 and 16, which focuses on equality and justice. Not 14 is for everyone. Yes, sir. We think 14 is not for tribals at all. Yes, sir. Give tribals specific. So one is the 15-year-old's case. Under that, we have specific provisions for them. Then I... What does 15-year-old do? So 15-year-old basically says that tribals must be taken good care of and the governor has specific power to ensure that their conditions are... Sir, that is not a right. You go for the rights first. What are the rights? In Part 3, there are rights available to the tribals. Why don't you first talk of the rights? They have to know the rights. What are those rights? One specific right can be maybe from the article 29 and 30.2, sir. That is, they have a right to conserve their culture, right to establish their education. Can be or is it available to them? It is available. When you cite any case, an important case where this right, cultural rights of tribals have been applied by Supreme Court. I'm not exactly sure about this. Yes, sir. Even the Samantha judgment is indirectly related to that. You're sure? The 1996 judgment, I think, sir, which said that the private minus of the private industries must not overlook the right of the tribals in the forestry. What is the name of this case? The Samantha or Samantha judgment. What else? What is 29? We have directive principles, sir. Directive principles in short. They don't provide a right? Yes, sir. I'm talking about the right. Sir, article 25, 26 can also be seen in that slide. Then I'm not very sure, sir. Why, 15, 16? Yes, sir. Very clear, right? Yes, sir. 19? 19, 21. That was very important, but... Not 21, 19. Yes, sir. Why is 19 relevant to tribals? Sir, because it provides a right to freedom of expression. No, it restricts entry even as areas. That is the same point. Thank you, sir. All right.