 Today on The Breakfast, human rights lawyer Femi Fallano says former President Goodluck Jonathan cannot contest in the 2023 presidential election, citing constitutional provisions barring the ex-president from seeking re-election. Also on The Breakfast, we will be bringing you up to speed with the latest in the exciting world of sports. And we also will be reviewing all the major stories making headlines across national dailies. Good morning to you. Thanks for joining us. It's another edition of The Breakfast, coming to you from plus TV Africa here in Lagos, Nigeria. My name is Justin Al-Qadouni. It's a beautiful Friday morning and it feels really great to be back on your screen. I am Messi Bopu. It's been an anticipation for those who actually observed the holiday, looking at the very long holiday that has been caught short. Yeah. It's more like the ticket has been caught. It is really, well, something for them, but hey, holiday, no holiday. Most of the time you talk about holiday, I don't even look forward to anything because you know, ordinarily, there is no holiday for people like us. But it is Friday. It is the weekend and it is a restful one. As much as possible, try to just ease out all of the stress for you ladies as you would say. Let your hair down, whatever that means. It means to try and relax. How do you guys let hair down? How does that work? Is this what you do? I let your hair down. That's not what it means. It's just, you know, part of speech and it describes the fact that you need to relax half on, you know. So your hair is up right now? Yes, my hair is up because of my work. So let it down, just relax and go ahead. So not necessarily letting your hair down, but don't let your hair down. I don't know, maybe you just pack it up and just let it go and just relax, whatever that means. Are you attending any wedding this week? Because I know you and weddings every weekend. So it's anyone this weekend? It almost sounds like I crash every wedding in Lagos. I don't know. So how do I attend weddings every weekend? I don't need for weddings for weekends, what are you trying to tell me? No, I won't be attending any weddings. Hopefully I'll try and get all the rest I can this weekend because you can never overemphasize the place of good rest and of course, good sleep. Let us just slide into top trending and it is being revealed that the core member who died, sorry, who was the Kled meeting missing on the 14th of April, was later found, but not really in the state that most people or her family would have wanted. That's Stephanie Ceremba Terungua. She was the Kled missing and later her body was found mutilated. Also it's really sad, but the story hasn't really, so I feel like we're still on top of the situation and trying to understand what led to her body being dismembered, but it's no reason and so the issue of security will continue to be very, will be on the top of our discussion, would always make the headlines until we make it safe for Nigerians and every other person. Now the most unfortunate part is the fact that prior to this time, you remember how we came about the NYC scheme and the importance of it. It was prior after the civil war and of course we thought that let's begin to integrate, reintegrate and all of that, the three hours as you want to say. But have we lived up to the three hours, the essence of it, constantly you have people who are deployed from a certain region to another region, so they are able to integrate into the system, understand the people and also get to learn cultural language and it's supposed to force a unity. Once upon a time if you find anyone wearing the uniform as a youth core member, it's always a lot of privilege that comes with that. So for instance, you're about to board a public transport. You're given an extra, I mean you could just go ahead and say, you know what, don't worry because you're seen as a property that belongs to the entire nation. So let's say you'll be government-picking, but it's really, really sad that you would have someone wearing that and people no longer, I mean so the essence of it, we've actually practically lost it entirely. We used to have the way we treat those who wear this uniform at every point in time, every point in time, exceptions were made for them. It's quite sad, it's really, really sad that it's no longer safe for anyone, it's no longer saving for the youth core members and that's why people constantly would say, you find out that someone is deployed from a certain region to another region and then they'll find a way to redeploy and get to a safer path, they don't want to go there. People have constantly asked, let's grab the scheme. Security number one is top on the list. How far have we made it safe for our children? Those who would have to go to these camps, to go to different paths where they don't have parents, will find out the issues of negligence, right? Issues of negligence that has led to the death of core members. I mean, you find out that someone has different ailment and no one paid attention to her or him and in the course of all of that, they lost their lives. How about the fact that it's no longer safe for this person? So it's a lot, but it brings us back to the fact that every day we're losing lives and the essence of governance is that lives and properties would be protected and if government cannot leave on top of the situation, if we cannot understand the basics of government and then why do we even exist? Why is there a government? That's the next question. So we need to do better. This does not stop the fact that you would have another person who will become a victim. But it's really sad. Our hearts sympathize with the family of Stephanie and every other person. It's really heartbreaking and very emotional to talk about this morning. Yes, these are very, very, very, very sad situations. You have raised all the issues. Most of the times, there's core members are deployed to areas, regions that are very restive. Over time, they have been used as ad hoc staff for election duties. And we've had stories where they have been killed, where they have suffered from violence that have erupted from elections. And most times, the security that they should be given, they don't get. And families, parents would allow their children to just go under the mandatory one-year national service and they are not even certain anymore if their children will come back to them the same way they left. All the time, they come back with one or two diseases they never had before. Sometimes they come back being maimed. At the point, like you had said, there was this outcry for the disbandment of the NYC because most people could not really see the essence, that it was the law promulgated for in the first place in the 1970s. It is really a sad one, but then, like you had said, our hearts go out to the parents and the family of this Sarah who died trying to do her own national service for our country that have not really taken the security of people on the top front burner. We'll move away from that one. The NYC is also still in the news. I think it happened in Enogustet, about 38 or so of them were sanctioned for various reasons. Some of them absconded during service, while some of them did not really do all the needful as stipulated by the NYC edit and all of that. But Mercy, I wonder why people would go to a particular place at the end of the day they don't want to serve. It's either they are running away or absconding or sometimes. We've had cases where people would ask other people to help them with their clearance, what they do monthly, and they go out to where they want to stay, maybe where they do businesses or where they live. So at the end of the day, it was to seem as though that they served. When they actually did not serve in that particular state they were posted to. But the truth is that I wish NYC could be a bit flexible with all that is going on in the country. Should anyone have any reason why they don't want to stay? Logical reasons that is why they can't serve in a particular place. Don't force them. If they feel, although we can always get what we want, we can't be giving people preferential treatment when it comes to postings and all of that. But for if the reasons are really genuine and they can't stay in a particular place for any particular reason, you should just oblige them. So it brings us back to the first conversation. I mean, the point that we started with, it talks about what's the essence of the scheme. At the end of the day, we need to understand why the scheme exists. And so it would be important now. Since the establishment of the NYC scheme, the big question would be, have we had a review? So we haven't. We haven't reviewed the scheme since its establishment. And it's not even normal to go to the entire process and not sit back and have a review and find out what's going on, how are we fed over the years? Have we lived up to the essence that we're created? So it's time that we sit back and look at the essence of the scheme and ask ourselves, is the scheme leaving off to its purpose? And we need to also, now for a lot of persons who have argued that we cannot just do away with the scheme, because some people are saying scrap it. It's not important. It has taken life. It has cost a lot of ham than good. But some people would say this costs, you know, I mean, there's a lot of benefit that has come to us with that. Some persons would never have the privilege of traveling outside of a particular region or a state, but not for the scheme. So we understand all of that. But the point is, we need to get to a point where we sit back and review and rejeke and improve it, improve the system and see what we can do. But that has not really happened. And it costs for a lot of consent. So if you begin to ask yourself why, people saying they don't want to stay in the primary place of assignment, they have been deployed to a certain place and they want redeployment. So what's the reason? Why are they asking for it? Several issues, security top on the situation. I mean, there's some regions, I don't want to begin to mention for some reason now, but there's some regions you have to post people to. They will find a way to walk it out because they don't want to go there. And so you find all of these activities that's going on. Should that be the case? That's on one hand. So, I mean, it's quite encompassing. I think that it's time that the government, the federal government of Nigeria, sits back and look at the NYC scheme and let's begin to decide what we want to do with that scheme. Let's also understand why the scheme was initiated in the first instance. And even if it is not leave as purpose, and then let's find a way, move away from it, improve it and adjust the system to accommodate our current reality. But top on the notch is the fact that security is a major concern. Yes, it should always be. It is on the front burner. It should still be on the front burner, not just for core members, but of course indeed for every Nigerian because how can you be in your own country and somehow you feel like you are a refugee? It just does not make any sense at all. We'll leave the NYC for one moment and go to something that is equal, each funding. This time around, we hear that there's a particular herbalist, well, I don't have anything against the African traditional religion or beliefs or however you get your own healing, relief, sucker, whatever it is. But when someone is collecting, mercy, that's a whopping about 26 million there for cleansing. Mercy, how far would you go to get cleansed? No, you shouldn't be asking me that question because I have a big trust issue. Sure, brother, our cousins and Nigerians are going. So, you remember recently where we talked about Ponzi scheme and not necessarily Ponzi scheme because some of this investment platforms and what have you, they don't come up and say we're Ponzi scheme. But if you look at the operations over time, you would understand. And we got to the point where we talked about the fact that people don't seem to understand how money works. You don't understand the dynamics of money and then you think that somebody tells you, give me 300,000 nair, in the next three months you're going to get 40% of that. I mean, are you a thief? It's the next question to ask. So, it's gullibility, people are very gullible. And people would always say, we want to say that religion and what have you caught is a major problem. So, the devil is, I think they have upgraded. They understand the fact that they even understand more than the people who are seeking help. So imagine you, imagine you. No, no, look at you yourself, a grown adult and adult as you are. So you're chunking out. I'm not sure that that money was gotten from one person. Right? Well, I think it was in the foreign currency. One individual. I don't even, if it's one or several, that money is big. No, so I don't imagine how an individual would chunk out 26 million. I'm kind of cleansing from spiritual problem or from all your village people or what exactly, I don't get it. We need to do better as a people. We need to understand. So, but the truth is, I think that we haven't been told the truth over time. So, for instance, you probably get into, I'm not saying that powers do not exist. I mean, I do not undermine the spiritual aspect of life. So, there are powers, I mean, spiritual and what have you. But most times, we're very quick to blame our problems and our issues on demons and our grandmothers and our village people and every other person. Now we leave ourselves out of the equation. And then things don't even happen like that. Even the Bible itself would say that faith without works is dead. So, there's always a human path to every miracle. As much as you anticipate a miracle, what are you doing? For instance, you want a job. You haven't gotten a job. The question you should ask yourself is what have you been doing to get a job? Have you put in the work? That's the question. Have you putting the work? Have you done your bid? Or do you sit at home and pray and expect that you get a job? That a job would fall on the table for you and then you get it. So, but you need to go out. You need to make an effort. There's always a path. So, because we have, I think it's a mindset. The mindset, because it makes us think that people are our problems and that's why we go around seeking for help, spiritual help, cleansing you from what issues. The issue that if you look at that at the end of the day, you are the cause of your problem. What investment? So, you want to talk about money. What business do you have with money if you are not associated with the process of making money? Are you rendering services? And even if you're rendering service, money does not chunk out like that. So, it takes time. Now, so what are you doing? Do you have a product? So, you just, somebody tells you the reason you're broke, the reason you're poor is that your father, your great-grandfather has held you. No, we're not saying that these things don't happen, but I'm saying that to some extent, you need to be. You now go to the extent of throwing such money because I feel that- So, what are you being cleansed from exactly? But it's okay. From all the issues that's been bugging your entire generation for years, from all the issues that make you not progress in your business. And the heblist is woke. So, what would the heblist be doing with 26,000,000? What would the heblist be doing with the 26,000,000? I'm messing, sometimes I find that ironically, those heblists, those are native doctors, those spiritualists, with the 26,000,000, they don't see it on demo. You never can tell. It's a disguise. Maybe because they always- So, when you- What the hell is it, remote areas? What we see in the movies is- Yeah, well that's- Is it just the movies that make the most confused? It's the movies. Have you ever visited a heaven? It's before you tell me, because I don't know what they look like. Apart from what we see in the movies. I know it's a red or a red cloth behind there. That's what the movies tell us. They put leaf in there. Maybe they have mansions across, but we're saying that we need to understand ourselves as people. We need to understand our environment. We also need to understand- Let's be wise. Let's be wise at the end of the day and not be gullible, because you could also pass for another Ponzi scheme if you ask me. All right, that's as much as we can take on top trending for this morning and indeed for this week. A top trending returns again on Monday, but we will take a quick break in. When we return, we will be reviewing the top of the front pages of Major Dailies in a moment with an analyst, of course. Join us again.