 I'm sure you're aware of what Lamar Jackson was doing, where you thought, you know, if I get a chance to defend that guy, I might try X, Y, or Z. Didn't spend a lot of time. Just saw him on film when we were watching, you know, a little bit, we'd catch him once in a while. It was just more than anything else. I saw him on Sports Center every week. And, you know, usually some highlight. And just knew he was a phenomenal, phenomenal athlete. And really, I've kind of always stayed in touch with some of the guys from Baltimore we talk. And they just all just raved about him as a player and as a person. So, you know, just that kind of stuff. I never really thought about any kind of game-playing or anything. I think a lot of guys have mentioned the name Michael Vick when they talked about him. Is he bringing back memories of Vick or is there anybody that you would compare him to? Oh, I think you're going to always compare him to Vick and Tyrod Taylor and guys like that. But I just think he's kind of in a class by himself. I think he's running wise. He's a phenomenal runner. You know, he's a different type of runner than Watson and all those guys. He's just, he's really a, I mean, he could be a tailback for somebody. I mean, maybe those other guys could be too. I just, I see just a lot more moves and just really spins and things that he does that Michael Vick could do some of those things. But I just, he's, he's just a phenomenal player. Does Marcus's RPO background help you at all in being able to simulate Lamar in the scout team? Well, it's certainly better. Yeah, I mean, obviously him being able to run some of that stuff helps us a little bit in practice. How much, you know, the hardest, the biggest thing in practice is not only to simulate in the quarterback, but it's actually simulating all the blocking and the scheme, because it's different for our own linemen too. All those guys have to do it off a card and things move once the car, the car looks great when I stand there stationary, but all of a sudden things move and doesn't look quite the same. Don't block it quite the same. And they're used to Baltimore's offensive line. Joe D's got them schooled up on how to block movement and stuff like that. So, you know, sometimes out here, we look great. We're all over everything, but you know, it's not quite that same way in the game. But going back to your question, Marcus will be, that's certainly a big deal. Cause I remember before, you know, whether it be at Baltimore or at New England, you know, you're trying to simulate some kind of a quarterback like that. And all you got to drop back guy that's used to do that. We used to have to take a wide receiver or running back or somebody like that and have to put them a quarterback that week to try to simulate. And it's just, especially when you're talking about actually reading somebody on the zone read, it's hard for somebody to simulate that. We have an offense that could run the ball so well out of 13 personnel, but then turn around and pass it the way they can. What kind of challenges does that present for you? Well, it's a big challenge. You know, as you try to, if you try to match up, maybe if you go small to play the pass, they're going to run the ball. If you try to go big to stop the run and they may throw the ball. I mean, that's obviously, it's a big challenge. And Greg's doing a great job of not only scheme-wise, but doing a lot with a lot of different personnel groups. That's rooted in what you left behind. I don't know. I don't think it'd be fair to Don to say one way or the other. I mean, it's his defense. He's, they're doing a great job. And whether he's doing a lot that we did, and I probably did a lot that Greg Pagano did and Rex did before that. I mean, there was carryover from everybody, but it's Don's defense and he deserves the credit. If there's one or two keys, Dean, what do you think in playing against the zone read and the option? What are maybe the most, one or two most important things? Eyes, you know, you just really got to, you got to focus and eyes and assignment. You know, everybody's got an assignment to do. And it's like option football back in college. And you got to do your job. If you try to do somebody else's job, usually that's a bad sign. And the other thing is, if you take your eyes off of things that you're supposed to be keying, generally that's not going to be a good sign either. If you got to try to hurry up and react to something they've done and you didn't really get the key, that's hard, and especially the better the athlete, the harder it is. I mean, he's hard enough to tackle, even if we know where he is and where he's going to be. I've seen guys having defended absolutely perfect and he makes them miss. I mean, that's just athlete on athlete and he did a better job than the guy trying to tackle him. But biggest thing is you got to have good eyes and you got to really be assignment conscious, know what your assignment is, and then do your job, not somebody else's. Do you change a lot in your defense when you face an offense, kind of unique like this, or is there a lot of risk involved if you change a lot? Well, I think it's kind of both. I think you got to take your defense and then just adapt it, hopefully, to what they do and try to make the assignments as easy as you can for them. But you can't just throw your defense out and all of a sudden, after playing it for 20-some weeks or two years or five years or whatever it might be, you can't all of a sudden say, okay, well, we got three days here, we're going to put in a new defense. It doesn't work that way. You'll have more MAs and busted plays doing something like that. You're better off playing your defense than just telling them what they got to look for and if there's some keys, try to give them some keys. They're offensive lines movement. Pretty impressive. Yeah, I mean, I know most of those guys and guys like Stanley and those guys, they're athletic. Joe D's a heck of an offensive line coach, too. I have the utmost respect for him, as I did for Dante Scarnicchio last week and he does a great job with those guys. And Greg Romans, like I say, they got a good scheme and those guys know how to run the scheme. Pretty impressive transition. I mean, they didn't come into the league necessarily to run a scheme where they were moving this much. No, but they've kind of adapted to it and I think the guys that they had were good guys to already be able to put in that system. Maybe better in this system than in a system where they were just a gap scheme and stuff like that, maybe even more. So I think they got a very good offensive line for this system. You mentioned Roman, last time you went against him in the playoffs, that's all anybody was talking about in terms of the coaching matchup, right? No hardball mentions at all in that game. It was all Roman and P's. That was how many years ago? Eight years ago? Whole lot of different guys. If you remember watching Kaepernick, he was under center quite a bit. How many times you've seen this guy underneath center? So to me, it's a similar system, but it's not at all the same. This isn't the same defense. That isn't the same offense. There's elements of both to it. But overall, what happened eight years ago has no relevance to this one. What was that transition like for you? I mean, I imagine it's like that anytime after a playoff game. Obviously a big win on Saturday. How quickly did you forget about that and immediately start? On the plane ride home. So had to tab it out, looking at Baltimore. And it was a great win and very satisfying. But it's one step that you're trying to, we're all trying to reach the ultimate goal. And you can't really dwell on it too long. You just got to keep moving on. I mean, it's not like my first playoff game was last week. I mean, I've been there a few times and kind of know that it's a playoff game. It was a big game. It's a very important game. But the next one's more important. Jackson had a two week stretch against the Browns and Steelers earlier in the year, where he was intercepted five times. Since then, he's only been picked off once in the last 10 games. What's he done or what have they done to cut that down? I think it's just experience. I don't think you look out there and say, OK, well, they've done a different scheme or done this. That's him just recognizing, making a mistake, and then learning from his mistake and not making it again. That's just a player getting better as the season went on. That wasn't like there was a dramatic, OK, we changed this and changed that. That's just him getting better from making a mistake. Coach, if Ingram doesn't play or he's not 100%, does that change what they do offensively at all? No. They aren't this far down the road. Win 11 games in a row. They all of a sudden lose one guy. The only one that would happen there is if they took, if eight left and our G3 left, they might change a little bit. What's the chances of that happening? So no, that is going to change that at all. You still know some people there in Baltimore. It has enough time, though, past that your departure, how fresh is that still at this point? Or is it all focused Saturday? That's the only thing that matters? It's focused on Baltimore. I will say this, that I mean, I had eight great years there. This is not, you know, when I left there, I left there retired. I didn't leave there because I had to or because I wanted to. I left there just really because I was retired and was leaving. And so I had the utmost respect for them. John and I still talk. Coach Harbaugh and I talk, not this week, but I mean, we correspond. A lot of the guys on the staff, a lot of the defensive staff is almost the exact same as when I was there. So a lot of friends. But it's like you always say, if you go out and play golf, I'd rather beat my brother at golf than I would somebody I don't know. So it will all be keyed up for it and want to get after them. But at the same time, when it's over, those people are still my friends. What's the next deal with that? What's that? Do you end up doing with all the gear you have from there? Any family members still wear it any? No, nobody's allowed to wear the gear if I want another team. They got to wear our gear. But there's a heck of a lot of people in Michigan and Ohio wearing a lot of Raven's gear that are family members or friends. I gave a lot of it away. And I kept some too.