 Daily Tech News show is made possible by you right there listening. Thanks to all of you. Kevin Morgan, Paul Teeson, Ali Sanjabi and Steven Fields. On this episode of DTNS, you might be able to replace Google Assistant with ChatGPT soon. Michelle Rahman joins us to explain. Plus is Substack really a platform and Tristan Jutra tells us about the ChatGPT of generating songs, not the song. This was made by you. This is the Daily Tech News for Friday, January 5th, twenty twenty four in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from Studio Animal House. I'm Sarah Lane, drawn the top tech stories in Cleveland. I'm Len Peralta from somewhere in Southern California. And the show's producer, Roger Chang and joining us host of A.I. named the show and momentous podcast, Tristan Jutra. Welcome back here from the Great White North. I'm glad to be here, except it's just wet. It's not white right now. The Great Wet North right now. OK, fair. You know, it'll freeze eventually, though, if you're not careful this weekend, apparently. Yeah, yeah. Sarah, did you move to a frat? Uh, sort of. I mean, if you ever want to hang out with my dog and my cat, it feels very fratty, especially at about six thirty in the morning. Yeah, breakfast. Toga. Toga. The animals never fix you breakfast, though, do they? No, never once. Not once. They should get jobs. Seriously. All right. Their job is being cute. That's good enough, I guess. Let's start with the quick hits. We are going to hear plenty about the Samsung Gaming Hub at CES since the company already said it will be a key feature in its TVs and some of its monitors. The platform lets you easily access game streaming services like Nvidia GeForce Now, Amazon Luna, Boosteroid, Black Nut, Utomic and Antstream Arcade and Xbox Game Pass. It can also stream gameplay to YouTube, Twitch and Spotify. Samsung also announced Design for Samsung Gaming Hub. That's for third parties making accessories like game controllers. The first in the program, a gamepad from PDP is available for pre-order now. And while most Bluetooth accessories should work, the designation means it's been tested. It should be compatible, reliable and secure. We're likely going to hear plenty about Samsung Gaming Hub at CES. And Samsung says it'll be a key feature in its TVs and already has been announced in one of its monitors. The platform lets you easily access game streaming services like Nvidia GeForce Now, Amazon Luna, Boosteroid. I'm reading the same thing over again. I thought I was taking very crazy pills just now. Wow. Yeah. Sarah already told you about that. But maybe you want to order one of those monitors online. Chances are a lot of them came from overseas. So get ready for delays. Maresk, which operates a sixth of global container shipping, is the biggest shipper yet and not the first, probably not the last to announce that for the foreseeable future, it will divert its container vessels from its route through the Red Sea and therefore the Suez Canal to go around the south tip of Africa. Now, you probably already know that's a longer route, but it's at least 10 days long, possibly longer. Houthi military in Yemen have been attacking vessels headed through the Red Sea to the Suez through the Persian Gulf. India and the US are among countries who are providing naval escorts to ships that continue to head to the Suez through the Red Sea. But it is not yet enough to make the biggest shipping companies on the planet comfortable. So expect delays in shipping over at least the next month and more hats to Big Jim for his help understanding this story. Last year, Microsoft surprised and disappointed a lot of folks by discontinuing its popular range of mice, keyboards and PC accessories, choosing to focus instead on the Surface brand. But a unique partnership with Onward brands will see Microsoft's PC accessories live on indeed. Onward is licensing the designs of various Microsoft products and then using the same supply chain and manufacturing components as Microsoft. So the products themselves, they're not changing. They'll just now be labeled with Onwards in case brand designed by Microsoft. And I will not repeat what Sarah just said this time. Now, you may have been wondering how Huawei was able to put an advanced chip made with a five nanometer process into one of its laptops, the L540, given that Huawei is restricted from buying chips made by or with technology from US companies. Well, Bloomberg asked a company called Tech Insights to look at one of those laptops, dismantle it and figure out who made the chip. Turns out it was TSMC in Taiwan, which no longer makes chips for Huawei. But the chip in question was a Kirin 906C made in 2020 before US restrictions forbid TSMC from using US based technology to make chips for Huawei. So Huawei is just using an old stock of chips. That's what this is, even though this chip isn't a big example of Chinese chip making prowess. However, remember that Huawei did ship its Mate 60 with a seven nanometer processor made by Shanghai based SMIC. When will processors reach the limits of Moore's law and stop getting faster? You may have asked yourself that very question, perhaps even today. Well, semiconductors are approaching a limit on how small a transistor can physically be made, since you just can't make it smaller than an actual silicon atom. Graphene is one of many possible new materials that could let chips keep speeding up. But despite some scientific breakthroughs in the use of graphene, none have been practical enough or even significant enough to make a widespread replacement. But Georgia Tech scientists think they may have unlocked something new. The team published research in the journal Nature on the world's first functional semiconductor made from graphene, detailing something called epitaxial graphene, which they say is compatible with current microprocessing methods, meaning it could be a lot easier for chip companies to actually adopt. I don't believe it when I see it, but it does sound promising yet again for graphing. All right, if you wanted to use chat GPT as the smart assistant on your Android phone, there is some evidence emerging that it might be possible pretty soon. Earlier today, Tom spoke with Michelle Raman, who published two stories on Android authority on just this subject. Google Assistant is the default smart assistant on Android. It can be replaced, well, used to be able to be replaced by Cortana, not anymore so much, but it can be replaced by Amazon, for example. And when you replace it, whatever you replace it with takes over the menu slot, long press, swipe gestures, things you would normally do to get Google Assistant to come up. You can have another assistant come up in those situations. Michelle Raman at Android authority also found on Android faithful podcast, found a new activity in the APK for the version of chat GPT on Android. Michelle, what did you find? So I was digging through the chat GPT app and I discovered a new activity, as you mentioned, Tom called assistant activity. And when you launch this activity, which is currently disabled, when you launch it, you get this kind of overlay that appears on screen on any page that you're on. You get this little swirling icon animation, the circle that gets bigger and bigger. And then as it gets to its maximum size, you're supposed to be able to talk to it. So if those of you who used chat GPT app before and you've used the new voice mode, it'll look exactly like that voice mode interface as you're doing it, except this is now an animation that appears on any screen. So presumably this will let you activate and talk to chat GPT from any screen on your phone. You wouldn't have to exit your app, open the chat GPT app, and then go to the voice mode app and then talk to chat GPT. You could just summon it from any page that you're on. And that's summoning would be made possible by chat GPT being the default assistant app. And there are further code hints within the app that suggests you'll be able to set it as the default assistant app. And as Tom mentioned, that's something you're already kind of able to do with Android. You can change the default assistant app, which on most phones is the Google Assistant. But chat GPT is preparing to add support for being set as a default assistant app. And when it does gain that capability and the user sets it as the default assistant app, you would be able to launch it by doing a long press on the home button, a swipe up gesture from your gesture navigation or by long pressing the power button. And right now, all three of those actions on most phones either launches the Google Assistant or if you're on a Samsung phone, perhaps Google a Samsung big speed. So it's not there yet. It looks like they're developing. What's your best guess on Timeline or whether they do this? I think it's a safe bet that they will do this. I don't have no idea about Timeline, but we're seeing that Google is developing Assistant with Bard and they're poised to launch that sometime this year, sometime early, like maybe in the next couple of weeks or months even. And if ChatGPT were to just sit out of the buy, they'd be losing a lot to Google on this front because Google would provide Assistant with Bard right in front of users in a very accessible way because Assistant is already there. You can say the naughty hot words that I'm not going to say because it will trigger everyone's Nest device at home and it'll just bring it up on your phone or you could just long press the home button and bring it up. But right now, ChatGPT accessing on your Android phone is kind of a hassle because you have to manually open the app or manually go to open AI's website to talk to it. That's pretty exciting. I can't wait to find out more as we learn more. Thanks for uncovering this. There is one thing, one caveat about this feature that even if ChatGPT were to roll out support for being set as a default Assistant app, that wouldn't give it the same, the full capabilities of what Google Assistant can do. For example, you can launch Google Assistant with the naughty words that I'm not going to say, but you can't do that with third party digital Assistant apps that you set through Android because you have to have like privilege access to certain APIs and features that are only available to pre-installed apps. And if ChatGPT were to partner with some device makers like, you know, Samsung to have it pre-installed and then work with like Qualcomm and stuff to get their whatever hot word they want to use to trigger it trained on devices, they could do that. But obviously that's a lot of work. So this other thing that I actually just coincidentally published today is about a new feature in Android 15 called voice activation and it looks like this feature will allow you to wake certain apps, approved apps, using a voice keyword. And I'm not exactly clear on the full details on how this would work, what kind of voice words would work or whether or not this will be fully open to third party apps and whatnot, but I do know that this new API and this capability is being worked on and the full details on that are in my Android 30 article that should be live by the time this is published. Yes, exactly. So go check that out at androidauthority.com of course, and you've got code snippets and things in the evidence there, if people want to take a look at that as well. Anything else you want to mention before we let you go? Yeah, if you want to find out more about what's happening in the world of Android, be sure to check out Android Faithful, which is also part of DTNS network. We go live every week talking about Android with myself, Jason Howell, Wintwit Dao and Ron Richards. It's a fun time and next week will be CES and then the week after that Galaxy Unpacked, so there's a lot to look forward to in the world of Android. Fantastic. Hey, man, I know it's a busy day for you, especially with two big stories like that coming out. So thanks for taking the time to chat with us. No problem. Thanks for having me on, Tom. Well, Tristan, making chat GPT easier to access is a good thing, isn't it? It depends if you want to use it for good or evil. I, for one, have been wanting to find a way to make chat GPT more, especially the voice interface, more accessible from my iPhone. But I've only got an iPhone 14 Pro. The iPhone 15 Pro has got the action button, which helps make it a little easier. But then I think you still have to maybe have to push the button to activate the voice thing. This Android news is exciting, although I can't, it's probably not going to be too long before Google makes it much easier to activate Bard and once they make Google Assistant smarter with Bard. On an iPhone, you could be with the voice activation. Maybe you could use shortcuts. There's a bunch of tutorials on there, which I have not gotten around to trying yet. I, for one, am just waiting for Siri to get smarter. On that side of things, I'm sure people are waiting for Google Assistant and Alexa to get smarter. So as the brains of those assistants get replaced by LLMs, they'll become a lot more useful. But you really need those deep system hooks. As like Michelle was mentioning, they'll be much more useful when you can actually interact with data that's on your phone. Once, for me, in the Apple ecosystem, once Siri gets smarter, then it's going to be a Sophie's Choice kind of question. Do I still keep ChatGPT or just go all in with Siri? Yeah, yeah. And Weirdami was saying in our chat, like, oh, great. ChatGPT will be listening. It won't. Android will be listening, though. And Android's already listening. And I think people will react. It's listening on device. It's pretty well audited. But no, OpenAI won't be the one listening. The wild thing is with when you're using the ChatGPT app with voice, even if you exit the app and you don't close the session, it actually does keep listening to you. Yeah, once you've started it, yeah, then all bets are off. That's interesting to know. Yeah, yeah. But another sort of wrinkle to this whole thing is the news that you probably talked about with OpenAI, Sam Altman talking to Johnny Ive about doing some kind of AI device. We're not sure what that looks like. But then with Tang Tam from Apple, who is the head of iPhone design moving over there, could it be a smartphone or are we talking about some other non-smartphone device? Kind of like an AI pen or whatever. Interesting. Well, Substack started back in 2017. Remember that year as a platform to manage and grow an email newsletter? Newsletters, they've been around forever. But the most modern version of the newsletter is essentially brought back blogging. Instead of having to ping somebody's website all the time or add them to some sort of an RSS reader, their content just comes to your email inbox. I think everybody has and uses most of us anyway. Substack has now definitely become the current industry standard for newsletters. There are others, but a lot of people use Substack. But it's also evolved over the last five years. Platformer's Casey Newton, Platformer, is on Substack, wrote a post on Substack. Why Substack is at a crossroads. The point he's making is that it got away with not moderating content at first. And the company has publicly said, yeah, we want to have a hands-off approach to that. And that was OK, again, at first, because all it was really offering was software to publish something. But Tom, Substack is different now. It's got recommendation engines. You know, there are there's stuff that comes to my inbox of writers that I might want to discover that I don't know. And I might not necessarily like. Yeah, I'm of the opinion that Substack is trying to play both sides of an aisle that that people don't like you to be on both sides of these days. I'm fine with a cloudflare kind of thing, which is what Casey compares it to, or even WordPress, where you say, we're the platform. You pay us to use the platform. And that's it. Everything else is up to you, right? We'll provide you tools and all of that. But we're not picking winners or losers. That's how Substack started, as you mentioned. But now they have become someone who recommends things. They send out a newsletter. They surface algorithmically. Newsletters you might like based on the ones that you're subscribed to. So you are now not only engaged in recommending content and promoting content. They're also monetizing it by providing the promotion of subscriptions and paid subscriptions and things like that. I have the tech Tom newsletter at tech Tom dot substack dot com. It's free once a week, but you can pay every day and Substack is essential part of that. So when you're monetizing and you're promoting, suddenly people put you on the hook for a lot more moderation. And I think Substack has to pick a lane. Either take responsibility for the platform and not say, hey, if it's legal, it can be here because people don't like that. They're going to get in trouble if they do that or go back to just being a more neutral platform. Tristan, where do you follow in this? Well, one of the dangers, I guess, of starting to do things like using recommendation engines and or manually moderating, you start getting to section 230 territory from not mistaken whereby you're not simply a platform anymore. You're a publisher and then you face additional scrutiny. And I think that's one of the reasons why Substack was trying to be hands off. But again, like you said, they can't have it both ways. I for one, I subscribe to a number of Substack newsletters, most of which I actually consume via RSS. So because my inbox, email inbox is too full as it is, but I've noticed that some newsletters I subscribe to have now started bailing from Substack. Those who have a particular political viewpoint and the same kind of people probably that have left Twitter as well, maybe for similar reasons. They don't like the company that they're keeping on those platforms. Yeah, real quick. Section 230 protects your ability to moderate and be a publisher. So they would be clear under that. They'd be okay with that. Yeah, but to your point, Tristan, Casey Newton wrote, he said, I'm considering leaving Substack. He didn't, you know, this wasn't a flounce out post, but saying, you know, I've got folks who had said, hey, it's not you, it's Substack, but I'm not gonna pay for anything on Substack anymore. And that includes your newsletter, which is a very good newsletter. And, you know, that as a content creator, you know, this is not applied to Substack, but especially when you get into monetization, and especially when the company is taking a cut of that monetization, no matter what you're saying, that's where I think it becomes a very sticky situation. Does a company say, we don't wanna have to draw the line, we wanna stay out of it? Of course, that's way easier. But if you lose folks who would otherwise be very loyal to your platform and the folks that want to be on your platform, I don't know. I don't think that there's a clear path towards harmony here. Well, we're all about helping people understand. Now, part of that means putting yourself in the shoes of somebody that you may disagree with. And I think Substack's take on this is we're not going to promote the content you don't like, right? We're gonna shut down illegal content. So forget about that. But the content that you're like, you shouldn't be involved in promoting it. We're not gonna promote it. We're not gonna recommend it. And yes, they can monetize through our tools like everybody else, but we're not gonna do anything to help them succeed. And so your complaints, you know, your pushback are the thing that is going to stop them from being successful, not us banning them from the platform. At least that seems to be Substack's message so far. So they're doing the whole freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of reach, sort of approach that. Pretty much, yeah, yeah, exactly. As long as they don't eventually go tell their customers to go eff themselves. Yeah, I don't see them carrying kitchen sinks around or anything like that. So it's limited in similarities to others you may have said, say that sort of thing. We all love a failure. This has nothing to do with the story we were just talking about. It just happens to be the theme of this week's top five at youtube.com slash daily tech news show. If you want to get the top five tech fails as determined by the internet in a totally not scientific survey, go check it out. You can catch it at youtube.com slash daily tech news show. Back in December, Microsoft's co-pilot began to integrate with the AI music tool, Suno AI. The plug-in lets you write a text prompt to generate music, including vocals and accompaniment. You can create the whole song, just tell it what to do and it creates the whole song for you. However, the plug-in version of this only gives you one result per prompt. Suno's Discord offers two. Tristan, do you think Suno.ai is properly described as the chat GPT of generative AI music? Well, I think it'd be catchy to say that, but honestly, I think it's more like the dali of generative music in that it's kind of a niche. More people are going to want to interact with the large language models, whereas fewer people are using the image generation capabilities of dali three. And I think even fewer people again would be wanting to use the generative music capabilities of Suno as a plug-in into Microsoft Copilot, like you can have it being image generator as part of Copilot and all these other things. So it's a bit more of a specialty thing, a bit more of a niche. And it's an interesting product of the last few years of all sorts of advancements happening in generative AI, generative music, like we've seen with the large language models and the text, sorry, the image generation as well. These are all kind of been developing in parallel because a lot of them share similar technologies on the back end, such as GPT-2 back in the old days when some of the stuff was getting going and they've continued to increase at a remarkable pace, improve at a remarkable pace. So there's been a number of issues that have come up over the last year, especially to do with music. We've seen copyright issues due to large language models scraping song lyrics. Universal was suing Anthropic over that. We've seen some of these higher quality music generation tools being combined with artificial streaming services to game Spotify. So people like just crank out all sorts of generative music and then use these other services to get screenplays on Spotify to make a bit of money and Spotify has been clamping down on that. And then we've seen some, there's a tool called Bumi that people were using to make some of those songs. And then in the spring, we saw a number of AI voice models being applied to things like Adele songs and Gotye songs and the song Hey There Delilah, all these songs being sung by Kanye and other people like Johnny Cash and whatnot. And then we also had the quote unquote Drake and the weekend song that was done by Ghostwriter777 that caused a big flurry because that got on to Spotify and other services. So Universal Music Group had to clamp down on that. And then there's some artists such as Grimes that were just like leaning into it and making their voice print. Hers is called elf.tech Grimes AI one voice print and saying, hey, go ahead and make music using my voice. I just want a cut. And then you've got a band. There's a band called AISIS which did something called the Lost Tapes and they made basically an Oasis album which live instruments but they replaced their singer's vocals with a voice model of Liam Gallagher from Oasis. And it's amazing, it's the missing Oasis album from the 90s that you always wanted but never got. So a lot of this, there's this all flurry of activity happening in the spring and they've got a second album coming soon, by the way. But so this is causing so many issues with all these tools. Apparently there's this underground like black market for leaked Harry Styles and One Direction songs but this whole black market is being polluted by AI generated versions of songs by these artists as well. So that is kind of takes like a background for that because these tools like a couple of years ago were kind of garbage, slushy, no real melodies or inconsistent beats, vocals were indiscernible but we've seen a number of tools like Board Humans was using a GPT-2 model on their website BoardHumans.com. There's a bunch of samples that they provided. Google has a Music LM which was an open source model to create music and then there was like SoundDraw.io which has all sorts of great tools there but with Suno.ai it's based on a universal text to audio model created by Suno called Bark. So that is something that other people can tap into and they've got their own public facing app now at Suno.ai so you can mess around with and like you said, that's now a plugin for Microsoft Copilot but there are some limitations as you mentioned but then you say, oh please make me a longer version, I want something longer than a minute and it'll basically give you the freemium message. Oh, if you want to go to the Suno.ai site. So it's a little bit different than Dali in that respect but similar as well. So the folks who started Suno.ai are alumni of companies like Meta and TikTok so they've got some tech bonafides there but it's not only does it create the music for you just it's like text to music. So you describe the kind of song you want, it'll generate the music, it'll create lyrics and it'll also do the vocals and it sounds almost like a real song. It's not 100% but this is great for ideation and it's gonna be a little while before this is gonna be on the radio if that still exists or but I tried a bunch of different styles. Sometimes it doesn't get what you mean by certain styles necessarily, especially if things are more off the beaten path but the results are fascinating. I've got an example here from The Verge when they wrote this up in December, write a song about cats in the style of cat power. Because the internet. Yeah, I mean, that may not be your style of music but it's not bad, right? You've got the trouble sleeping, yeah. It is in the style of cat power if you're familiar with her, it's kind of moody, indie, down tempo stuff. I like it. I've seen this become common in K-pop where there's two big girl bands from Hive, Lucerafem and New Jeans and regularly people put up on YouTube, if Lucerafem sang OMG, if New Jeans sang Eve Psyche and the Bluebeard's wife. It's just become normal to be like, oh yeah, somebody's gonna play around and have one group sing another group's thing. What was the artist, of course it's escaping me now but it was a DJ who was famous for mashing up a bunch of songs and making, gosh, I can't remember. I actually didn't really like his style that much but the whole concept of the mashup thing I find fascinating now because it's like, let's mash up with this tool, just see what we get. Might be garbage, might be cool. Let's do it because we can, whereas before you couldn't make Kanye West sing a song that he didn't wanna sing. Well, these sorts of tools really democratize for lack of a better word and open up being able to create music to regular folks and the results are I think going to very wildly. It's one of those things where it's garbage in, garbage out, if you give good detailed prompts you're probably gonna get more satisfactory results if you give vague prompts it's probably gonna give you not quite what you're looking for. What I found in my experimentation so far and I've thrown things at it like Britpop and sort of industrial and dark techno and all sorts of things and it's especially with the poppy stuff to your point, Tom, a lot of it ended up sounding like K-pop was my wife Stephanie was commenting. He's like, that sounds more like K-pop than Britpop. It's like, okay, maybe it depends on what they're training these models on. Sometimes if you ask for certain styles, artist styles it'll reject it because like we're seeing with Dahle and their tools there's a bit of cautiousness regarding actually deliberately using other artist styles for fear of litigation. All right, well, go check out AI name this show if you want more of these kinds of discussions and insights on what's going on with AI Tristan and Teja do a great job with that available in pod catchers everywhere. Let's finish up with a check of the mailbag. There's an old friend in there. Yeah, in fact, oh, by the way, girl talk. That's the artist I was thinking of. Ah, you remembered, good, good. Yeah, yeah. If you sat around with your family over the holidays drinking eggnog, doing whatever you do, you might have thought to yourselves, you know what would make this even better if we were back in the days when the Concorde crossed the Atlantic at supersonic speeds. Remember those days, weren't they grand? Well, Chris Christensen has some news that may interest you. This is Chris Christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute. If you always felt like you missed out on your chance to fly on the Concorde or to fly at supersonic speeds, NASA is working on bringing that back as a reality for commercial air travel. They have a new program called Quest, the quiet supersonic technology program. The big problem we had with the Concorde in the US, for instance, they weren't allowed to fly over land because of the big sonic boom they left behind. And what this program is working on is planes that would travel between Mach 2 and Mach 4 versus current airlines would travel at about 80% of the speed of sound but have a much diminished sonic boom when they pass over. You can't eliminate it completely, but if you can do away with that objection, then maybe we could have commercial supersonic flight again. This is Chris Christensen from amateur traveler. Ooh, a sonic whisper. I like it. And I like the speed too. So yeah, that's all very interesting. Thank you, Chris Christensen. And thank you, Len Peralta, who has been busy illustrating today's show. What have you drawn for us today, Len? You know, I didn't get a chance to play around with Suno AI, although I find that fascinating that we're at this stage in humanity where an AI model can write a song. It's just amazing to me, but I did go on to chat GPT and asked it to write the course for an upbeat poppy pop song. And that's kind of what I drew here. The lyrics are we're dancing through the neon lights, soaring through the city heights. In the rhythm, we find our way, living for the night, and then music sway. So that's pretty amazing. You know, personally, I'll just stay with my own art and kind of generate my own art here. So, you know, that's kind of where I'm at. Len, I'm looking at your art, and I know people in the audio podcast can't see it, but it looked quite a bit like Mickey Mouse to me. I don't know what you're talking about. That's my original piece of art. Mickey Mouse from Steamboat Willie that just went into the public domain. We talked about that. It does look remarkably like Mickey Mouse. No, I don't know what you mean. That's my original piece, so I don't know. Maybe it looks like somebody else's stuff, but... You do have your signature, so I guess it is yours. It is mine. You were trained on public domain art, though, so... I was. Yes, if you'd like to see this piece of art, along with the chat GPT written poppy course, you can go to my online store or Patreon, patreon.com.com.com where you can join me at the DTNS Lover level, and you get this great original piece of art. You can also go to my online store, lennforalldistore.com, where you can order some stuff from DTNS or also try to commission me for something. So, yeah, go ahead, do it. You can do it. It's possible. Well, thank you, Len. And also thank you to you, Tristan Jutra. Let folks know where they can keep up with you when you're not doing really good work for us on this year's show. Well, you can tune in at 7 p.m. Pacific Time on Tuesdays for Momentus Live. And of course, we get the audio version of that, which goes out every week. And then on Friday's midday, Tasia and I publish our podcast, A.I. Named This Show, which you can find at aionamedthisshow.com. Fantastic. Patrons, stick around for the extended show, Good Day Internet. If you're a patron, you get more good stuff. We're gonna take a quick look at what folks expect from CES next week, and then have another round of Tech Riddle of the Sphinx because it's Friday and we like to have a little fun. Can you deduce the answer before anyone else does? Just a reminder, we are live on this show. You can catch the show live Monday through Friday at 4 p.m. Eastern, 2100 UTC. Find out more at dailytechnewshow.com slash live. Next week is CES week. We are coming in hot. All week, we'll be doing CES coverage. Hope to see you there. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more at frogpants.com. The DTNS Family of Podcasts. Helping each other understand. This week's episodes of Daily Tech News Show were created by the following people, host producer and writer Tom Merritt, host producer and writer Sarah Lane, executive producer and Booker Roger Chang, producer, writer and co-host Rob Dunwood, video producer and Twitch producer Joe Kuntz, technical producer Anthony Lemos, Spanish language host, writer and producer Dan Campos. Science correspondent, Dr. Nicky Ackermanns, social media producer and moderator Zoe Detterdake. Our mods, Beatmaster, W. Scottus1, BioCow, Captain Kipper, Steve Guadarrama, Paul Reese, Matthew J. Stevens, AKA Gadget Virtuoso and JD Galloway. Modern video hosting by Dan Christensen. Music and Art provided by Martin Bell, Dan Looters, Mustafa A, A-Cast and Len Peralta. Live Art performed by Len Peralta. A-Cast ad support from Tatiana Matias. Patreon support from Tom Merritt. Contributors for Tom McNeil. Contributors for this week's shows include Nika Monford, Scott Johnson, Chris Ashley, Justin Robert Young and Chris Christensen. And our guests this week were Tristan Jutra and Michelle Ramon. Thanks to all the patrons who make the show possible.