 It can be really hard to be consistent with a good diet workout and a good sleep routine. It takes a lot of discipline. But did you know that one of those actually contributes to the others? It's true. Studies show that if you sleep well and you do it consistently, you're more likely to be consistent with your diet and your workouts. In other words, do that. Be consistent with your sleep. It makes everything else much easier. By the way, there's an inverse relationship. If your sleep is poor, you're far more likely to eat poorly and far more likely to skip workouts or not work out at all. This is cool because it's one of those things that you could do and it just makes everything else much easier. Or you cannot do it and makes everything else much harder. This was actually one of the last things that I actually connected. In fact, it was not that long ago. We were already doing this podcast when I really had made that connection of the appetite cravings that I would have after a restless night. I don't remember if that was back when we interviewed somebody who had wrote the sleep book or what was going on with us in the business. But I do remember finally making that connection like, oh shit, all these days that I have these weird cravings for junk food or for ice cream or the art process. Yeah, we're also connected to a poor nights of sleep and then realizing, wow, the days that I get the really good nights rest and I wake up without an alarm clock and I feel refreshed to start my day. I tend to have an easier time with making good food choices and it's wild how closely those are connected. And I feel like if I was this late to the party, I got to think that most of my clients and average person doesn't make this connection too often. Yeah, it's cool. So there's a study that I'm pulling up and it was the American Heart Association. And the summary is people who had greater scores for sleep health. So that was based on regularity satisfaction, alertness, timing, efficacy or excuse me, efficiency and duration during a 12 month weight loss program were far more likely to follow the caloric intake and exercise components of the program compared to peers who scored lower for sleep health. It has such a profound effect on behaviors that I mean, look at the end of the day, the biggest challenge with like just trying to eat right is your own cravings, your own desires, your own lack of discipline or you know, your inability to stick to something, right? Everybody knows that and they're finding these studies and this is again, we've observed this as trainers that when people get good sleep consistently, it's a lot easier. It's just a lot easier and then of course the opposite. It's way harder. It just, I mean, it kind of feels a lot more like you're just more reactive. Like the whole rest of the day, I'm just kind of passively reacting to everything that's being presented to me versus like staying ahead of it and having the energy and the cognitive awareness to kind of pursue better behavioral options. It's like I'm almost coasting my way through it and then like any option that's available, I'm going to grab for that as opposed to the opposite. It's funny how much we get hung up on macros and counting that type of stuff. And I think like if that was, if that was like the missing link for people being successful, then people would be so oblivious to putting three different plates up and being which one's the better one or which one, like I don't know a client one that I, if I showed them a highly processed, highly saturated fat, low protein, poor, you know, meal plate or food plate of food next to a really healthy whole food natural bow and go which one's, which one's a better choice for you? Yeah, they'll know which one. 99.9% of all of them will know right away which one that it is. So it's not a matter of the clients not knowing like, but it's the, it's the behaviors and resisting that those temptations and learning how other things affect your choices that really I think learning how to get a hold of that really makes that choice much simpler. It crushes your willpower, you know, when they, when, when like foreign countries capture spies or soldiers and they want to like break them, they want to get them to give up the secrets. That's the go-to. One of the go-tos is sleep deprivation because it breaks your will. You're far more likely to be impulsive, far more likely to give up the secrets. Even a trained expert, you can break them with sleep deprivation. So now it's an extreme case, but if you're the average person, you're like, man, this is really tough, you know, eating right is really tough. And, you know, exercising consistently, it's really, really hard for me and I know I'm supposed to get good sleep. Like, what do I focus on first? Sleep. Because the sleep is going to make everything else much easier. And it's a hard one. It's deceptive, too, because I think people's perception of good sleep is completely different than actually getting, like, good quality sleep, which then restores you. And it helps give you all those, like, benefits that you'd have, like, throughout the day versus, like, I just think people aren't aware that just closing your eyes and trying to get, like, a certain block, like, let's say that's like seven to eight hours, like, oh, yeah, well, I got it. But did you, like, did you get interrupted all night? Like, did you ever get into real REM sleep? I don't know. Well, this is also why I think glucose monitors are so valuable, because you become more aware of how the food choices that you make affect, like, your blood sugar, your insulin spikes, and that, then, how that affects the choices and behaviors. One of the most common things that affects your ability to process glucose, or the spikes, is lack of sleep. Yeah. When they do these glucose, so at Nutrisense, that's a partner we work with, they use continuous glucose monitors that monitor your glucose, your blood sugar, in real time, and then they have actual nutrition experts that work with you. And they'll tell you the top way reasons that people get these spikes and these crazy drops in blood sugar. One of them has nothing to do with the food that they eat. It's lack of sleep or poor sleep. Someone has poor sleep, and then they see these numbers go all over the place, and then that influences your behaviors, increases your cravings, decreases your willpower. They can see it with data. And again, when we had, what was her name? We had her on the show, was it Kara? We had her on the show, representative from Nutrisense, and she's like, oh yeah, like lack of sleep, like, I'll see it. I could tell. I could look at somebody's numbers on their CGM, and I'll know, like, did you eat Pop Tarts, right? You know, at this time, or was it because you had bad sleep? Because it was one of the other. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. So it's like, and you know, this took me so long to figure out as a trainer, so long. But I remember I would, when I finally did, people would see like, I don't know, eight pound weight loss, and I didn't tell them to change anything. Just, let's just get you to bed at the same time every night, wake up at the same time every morning, do a sleep routine, give you, you know, eight and a half hour, nine hour block, because I know it's going to take you 30 minutes to fall asleep. Yeah. Let's do that. And then when they do it consistently, the weight would just fall off, and they would say, wow, I didn't know that I burned fat when I slept, and stuff like that's not really what's happening. Extreme example. I mean, I was training this lady for years, and really, I just, it was so difficult because it was like, there's got to be something here that we're not doing, you know, like, what is the key? It was so frustrating because like, the training was consistent, the nutrition was all dialed in, like, everything we were doing, we could possibly do, like, to kind of create this like healthy lifestyle. But the sleep just wasn't there. And it's because it just kept getting interrupted with meetings and things internationally at like weird hours in the middle of the night. And so there's just stress level, and there's this like, interruption of recovery there that when it was very apparent that like, the sleep was a massive component to that was when she was had a month where she just went on a retreat, didn't do any work, was completely rested and restored and lost 10 pounds just like that. Is that crazy? Yeah. Well, this is also why I don't like the, again, the calories in calories out type of argument is like the end all be all because I've had situations just like that, Justin, where I feel like I'm doing everything right as a coach and a trainer, and you assume that your client must be lying to you because you're thinking from that perspective of like, doesn't make sense. I've got her on a calorie restricted diet. She's doing this. She's doing that. She's following these things. And then you start to dive into that piece. And it's like, Oh, shit, like you're not sleeping. You got your jet lag because you're flying all over the place. It's just like, and not realizing like how stressed your body is from that and that it your metabolism doesn't work with you when that case is it's in survival mode. And it feels like it's being attacked from all angles. And then I'm beating you up in the gym thinking I need to work you harder. And that's the missing piece to it. And all I'm doing is making the situation even worse. There's a lot of people that find themselves in this trap and have no idea. And that's why a lot of them say, fuck it. I don't want to do it anymore. Give up because I'm doing all this hard ass work stressing myself out, not getting good sleep too. And I'm not seeing the results from fuck it. I'd rather eat the bad food and be a little fatter. Well, it's not intuitive, right? Like sleep, like I'm not burning calories. Like I'm not exercising. Like, what does it have to do with, Hey, look, I'll say this right now, everybody watching, if you're new to this and you want to get started on this, let's say this fat loss journey, just fix your sleep and don't worry about anything else. Just do your normal life, just fix your sleep for three months. You'll lose weight just by doing that alone. That's, that's how impactful it is. And again, if you, like I said, our partners at NeutroSense, they back this up with people's glucose numbers and behaviors and all that stuff. So pretty crazy. Do you guys think that the reason why some of this stuff is not communicated is it, it devalues us? Like as coaches and trainers, like when you think, you don't need me, exactly. When you think like, like, when you, if I said, like, give me like the five, like sleep trainer, you're laying bed with them. I mean, yeah, give me the, give me like the five big rocks. Like you want to like completely shift and alter somebody's health and finish journey for the rest of their life. And what are like those five big rocks? And it's like the dumbest simple things, like go to bed, you know, get a full nice rest, drink water, walk more after your meals, lift some heavy weights a few times a week. Like, yeah, like sleep. It's there. It's not really overly complicated. Eat whole foods. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I'm not, and there's no tracking, measuring weighing there or, you know, progressive overload. I'm not saying you need that shit right now. It's like literally do all these super basic things, do them really well and really consistently and watch how much that completely alters your life from a fat loss perspective, from a muscle building perspective, from a, yeah, everything, well-being, everything. And it's like, you don't really need me for that. You know what I'm saying? It's like, it's, there it is right there, you know? So I think that's why we don't, I don't think that's why it's not popular enough. Yeah. Let's see. Like I said, there's a new category of trainers, sleep trainers. They stay in your room and sing a lullaby or something. Yeah, watching. Yeah, taking notes. All right, today's giveaway, the RGB bundle. Here's how you can win that. Leave a comment below this video in the first 24 hours that we drop it, subscribe to this channel and turn on notifications. If you win, we'll let you know in the comments section. We're also running a sale on some workout programs. MAPS cardio is 50% off. The shredded summer bundle of workout programs, 50% off. And the bikini bundle of workout programs is also 50% off. If you're interested in any of those, just click on the link at the top of the description below. All right, back to the show. See, I gotta tell you guys, my two year old is, he's getting to two and a half now. He's at the age now. Actually, I told you this, Adam, earlier, and you said that you remember when Max started doing this. So we're putting him to bed last night and he's got this weird toy. It's like this cactus that talks back at you and it copies your voice, but then there's this function on where it plays music. And he's like, first he says, don't look at me to his mom and then don't look at me to me. I'm like, okay, whatever. So we're like, all right, we're going to look at the wall, right? But I can kind of see what he's doing. And he turns the music on and he looks at himself at the mirror and he starts like dancing, dude. He's like jamming and we're, I am cracking up because I can see what he's doing. And every once in a while, I'll look at him and be like, don't look at me. He'll stop and then he'll change the song. And he's like watching himself at the mirror while he's dancing. It's the funniest thing ever, dude. I tried to recording him, but every time I picked my phone up, he yelled at me. So I'm like, all right, I'll put this down. Max just came out of that phase of the, and he's still, depending on his mood, I get him in. Now he's like 50, 50. Sometimes he's a ham. Like he, yesterday was his first day of the new school and Katrina asked him, because she knows that he can get like that if like she pulls the camera out. No, he'll put his hand up. No, no picture. And then he'll do something like that. And then something like now he's at this phase where sometimes he'll do that, or sometimes he'll be like this, where she's like, can I take a picture of you with your backpack? And he goes, yeah, he goes, what side do you want? It's so cute because the backpack is amazing. Oh, I know. It's like, it's half of his body is the backpack and stuff. What are they carrying in that backpack? It's so big. Well, I think she lets him lug his toys around and stuff like that. So he loves it. He doesn't even in the house right now, right? So he'll carry his backpack around and his toys. Yeah, anytime we get Aurelia something, like we got him a camel back, boom, where's it around the house? Or if we get him flip flops, where he's got like whatever he got, this new thing, you know, new hat I got to wear it every day now. I'm gonna go to build my hat on or whatever. Yeah, he's got a pretty funny and hilarious face. You know what though, I had this thought too, where because we didn't experience this, our parents did not have the ability to record us 24 seven. They did it, right? It was always special events, go get the camera, record this, record that. And you know, because my son called me out, he's like, don't record me. And he got mad at me. And then Jessica looks at me, she's like, let's just be present. And I'm like, you know what? I wonder, like it made me think how much of his life and all these things I'm experiencing through the camera on my phone, rather than actually being there. I wrestle with that a lot, right? And actually, if I get upset at Katrina sometimes, so it's not fair, right? It's like, I'm the one who does really good about capturing the photos, capturing the videos. She's like, if it wasn't for me doing that, we probably have none of my son, I know pictures of her and I. So I definitely have the tomboy wife when it comes to that. So I've assumed that role in our relationship. And so there's sometimes where I get frustrated, like, I just want to enjoy this moment. Can you capture it for us? So I can go back and reflect on it because I'm kind of the one who's always doing that. And so then I had these moments where I'm like, I just, I don't want my phone around. I'm just, I'm going to be in the moment and do that. So I try and have balance in that. But then I also think it's such a, man, one of my favorite things to do, and I do this already with him, he's only fucking four, and I do this, where I'll, I'll lay in bed and I'll go through. Bro, every night we do that. I love that. Every night we go through that. I love that. And Katrina and I will go through it, like, oh, you remember this? Remember when he was doing this and doing that? I, I, and I don't have that. Like there, I don't have nothing of me like that where I could go back and see this timeline of growing up. And I, I got to think that that's going to be really cool for him when he's a certain age to be able to look back and see his dad and his mom interacting with him and him with his friends when he's little. And like, so I don't know, there's like a part of, like, you want to be fully present and, and, and you don't want to have to have this stupid phone and like get them so comfortable with like, there's always this, but then there's that part too. Like, man, that's such a cool technology that you have this so you can reflect. I know, I struggle with the two because the positive is, is being in the moment and not interrupting whatever they're doing. Cause even when you pull the camera out, if they notice it, and they do notice it, it's not like they don't notice that you're doing it, that it probably changes their behavior and their experience. It has to you, right? So that, well, there's, okay. So you saw the one, the last, there were like two posts to go on my son's page, right? I know you guys have access to that. The public doesn't. I, I caught the doctor scene. So I, I propped that because he was already doing something like hilarious like a hitting camera. Yeah. So he, and, and I sent him to go get like the next patient or whatever. And when he did it, I, I set it up so it's, so it's not even near me. And then I played with him so I could capture. That way he doesn't know. That way he didn't know. It doesn't change his behavior. It's not a big deal. So I try and do stuff like that, if I can, where I can sneak it. Katrina got that one of him falling into the, the, the bag. He had no idea. Like he was just doing that on his own and she was pretty good. Oh, I know. She was like dying. And she's like, Oh my God, if he does this again, I have to capture it. So she was like sneaking it. Yeah, we do that every now and then it, I mean, the easiest way for us to do it is like inside the house and we can watch them play outside. And that's how we got that one. Yeah. You caught that one. The spinning himself till he got sick and like fell over. Yeah. Like that's hilarious. Like I laughed. I watched that of your son probably 10 times. So that's such, and it shows his personality, right? Like that is gold to me that you have that and you'll forever have that. I wish we were better at that for sure. Like it is a balance. And it's always like one of those, you're rushing to find it and then you miss like half of what happens, which sucks. My mom actually was very good about like documenting to like, so there's like VHS of like me and my brother like all the way, like way too much. Really? We've never even gone through it all. Yeah. Really? Yeah. She was like obsessive about it. Did they have the big one that sits on the shoulder? That's our air. Yes. Yeah. You have the, you have the VCR attached to your hip. So, and then she, yeah, every basketball game or whatever, like, like, it actually like messed up her eye. Like it really, like, she did that much. She did that much. And then like, to the point where it was, it was the same camera and it actually had like the screen turned green. And like, it's the point where she ended up like re-gifting that to me later. And I'm like, what am I like, make green videos with this? Like this old camera. So anyway, I have like, now I appreciate it now going back, but I was like irritated as a kid because I always had like the hand me down, hand me down, hand me down of everything. So, but yeah, she pretty much got like all the camping, like all the things like of everybody we hung out. You know, what was weird about that era was that when you took pictures or video or whatever, the person developed, not video maybe, but pictures, you used to have to take your film to a place to develop. So people who don't know kids or whatever, you take pictures, you don't know how they turned out, you take the film, you take it somewhere. And the fast places would do it now or usually would take a day or two. Whoever was developing your photos saw your whole, all your family. Like they could literally look through your photos and see everything that happened. Oh, don't you remember when that was like the prank? You get your buddy's freaking camera and you just take a picture of your camera. So they go to their one hour photo and they're like, oh, look, it's your birthday. Oh my God, why? You know, you just think about that. It's funny that I was thinking like, there's, there's some videos because you're talking about your like your son kind of dancing and doing this thing. Like I was very much like that kid, you know, and would put wigs on and like, dude, like, dude, I did the whole, bro, I was a big, sharing too much right now. Here we go. Hey, listen, man, this was the 90s, man. This was before, before, before they rushed me off to get a surgery or something. You know, like, oh my God, hey, that's so appropriate right now. I swear to God, like, oh baby, he wants to be a girl. Let's go, let's go, man. I was like, yeah, I thought I was like a rock star, you know, I just want to put on a lot of different like outfits and whatnot. And so like, they videotaped me and like, I had this whole like play and stuff I do for the family. I remember getting so mad because I didn't want to show it like outside the family. And one time like we had all these like people over just to hang out. And then she just snuck it in and put it on the TV and I was like in my room came down, they're all laughing and I look up and it's me doing something and I was so embarrassed. Oh, I'm not like, I'm so mad. Yeah, your mom for like months. Yes, I used to, I used to do this dance. I don't know what the hell I was thinking, but I would stick my butt out and I'd like dance and smack my butt. That's right after the pillow fight. I'm not gonna be able to share it with this one, you guys. You guys are gonna be on your own this one. Justin and I were in a video together for a good time. We've been friends. But my mom would put these home videos on and then I'd pop up and I'd do that and I'd be sitting around family or just like random people. My dad used to put videos all the time. We'd invite people over friends. They're not even family. And my dad, oh, you want to see them some home videos? And then boom, there I am smack my butt out there. And I'd sit there and I'd just be like, Oh, dad. Oh, no. So they love it because it's so funny. So I actually think that we are going to move into or evolve into something that it kind of solves what we're talking about, right? Because they're obviously it's a value to have like this great footage right there. But then also it's very valuable to be present. And so I, and I don't know if it looks like, I think we talked before, I thought there was going to be this like hover, these hovering balls that are around everybody. It's just in your eyeball, maybe. Yeah. Well, so did you see the new, the new Apple vision? Yeah. So who's gonna wear that though? I know. So I mean, that's the first rendition, right? So I mean, maybe the future of it looks like it's way less invasive and it's more like just like thin eyeglasses and it does all that stuff. I don't know. Is that the one that it's like, like a really big goggle. And then it shows your eyes on the outside. So if I look at you, I, it's playing your eyes. But it's, so it's kind of, the screen is like showing the eyes, but you're not. Yes. And then it's augmented reality. Yeah. And you can, you can control things with hand signals. I'm going to check that out. Well, yeah. I mean, pull it up, Doug. It looks cool. I don't, I mean, I don't see myself using this. But again. Oh, weird. So, and it blends. So let's say Justin, I'm like this. So I'm, let's pretend I'm, I'm surfing the internet, right? Go back, Doug. So, okay. See how she controlled it. And then you come into the room, it actually senses you coming in the room and it, it blurs out the computer and now your face comes clear. Huh. Are people going to walk around with this shit on their face all over the place? Well, that's, that's the idea, right? So how can you integrate being able to walk around or be with other people while also being able to do this? Yeah. So if somebody, they're not showing somebody doing it right now, but if somebody walks into the room while you're doing it, it actually brings them into, into site for you. So you're not just in this VR. It's not VR. It's like AR. I could just imagine this right now. Is this coming out in like for, before Christmas? I'm going to assume. Oh, I think you can buy it now, right? So you can get it now? You can buy it now, right? Yeah, it's 30,000. How much is it? It's like 3K, I think. It's 3,500. 3,500. Okay. I, can you, okay. Think of the apps with this. Think of all the apps. You put this on. Imagine you hire a babysitter or a caregiver. Oh, you got to put this on, put the babysitting app. It goes on and it's monitoring the kid's heart rate, their body temperature. It's telling you if things are in danger. Oh, a kid is nearing a plug. That is, oh, there it is. Oh, child, child appears to be hungry, sending off some signals that or whatever. Baby's crying. It looks like tummy issues. This is going to be weird. Yeah. This is super weird. By the way, I don't know if you guys are notice or are reading these articles that are coming out about the demand and what people are like super excited to use it for. What do you guys think? What do you think? Horn. Horn. Of course. Everything's that. Yeah. Everything's that. That's not all stars. But I mean, so, but obviously these things are, well, one, we're older and this seems to like really far-fetched and like, oh, I would never, but I mean. But if you grow up using this? Right. You grow up using it and it becomes normal and or it evolves and it gets less of this big clunky thing on your head and it's smaller. Or like I said, maybe it evolves to something that is like more, you know. What if you wear this all the time or something like this? It records everything all the time. That's what I'm saying. And then you, Justin and I get an argument. Bro, I can't believe you said that. I didn't say that. Looks like you did, bro. That's that black mirror episode. Yeah. That's that black mirror. I guarantee that's going to be, that's going to cause a lot of problems initially because like people really don't realize what comes out of their mouth. Yeah. Or how they look. Now you said that you sounded like an asshole. No, I didn't. Well, I mean, even myself, I'm like, you can play devil's advocate with that and be like the positive side of that is the level of awareness. We, one of the things we talk about in this podcast is look at the growth that has happened because you actually have to hear your own bullshit. Yeah. Like you say it, it flies out of your mouth and it's done. But now on this podcast, I have to hear about it. And if I say something that is at all in one direction that somebody doesn't like, I get feedback right away and then I go listen to it. Plus viewing everybody's reaction to what you're presenting. So either that or people become masters at faking it. Because that's inevitable, right? That's inevitable, right? There's always going to be actors. There's sociopaths. There's always going to be actors, sociopaths. There's always going to be evil and bad in the world. But maybe for the majority, it actually becomes this great self-awareness tool that makes people better people because they go, oh, fuck, I was kind of bad. So who do you think is going to win more arguments with those glasses? Husbands or wives? Do you? Who do you think is going to play back video? Oh, you're going to play the sex as it gets us? How about take that in your own life? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who do you think is going to win that more? Like, I don't know. I didn't say, I didn't do that. Yeah, you did. Just, just roll the feedback. Yeah. I mean, women are supposed to be better at like remembering all that stuff that we are. Well, I mean, they are, let's be honest. Yeah. So I don't remember. We probably lose that, that battle. Maybe we do, or what if they fooled us this whole time? You know what I mean? Yeah, we're, we're blind. But those things are crazy though, right? It is. I can't, I mean, think of right now that the applications, the apps that are going to be developed for something like that. Like, well, think about this. I mean, how often do we do, we set up a zoom call this, this Friday coming up. Like we got, imagine doing like a conference. It looks like someone's sitting in front of you. Yeah. Imagine, and you're, or you see like a zoom where you can see their, their screen. So they're, What if you go to a store, every product you look at, you could click and it opens up and explains it and shows you that it works. Right. Or you just look at it in the price hovers. Yeah. You know, $4.99, $7.99. Yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, totally minority reports. Or it picks up, picks up somebody and it shows you all their other links. So I'm looking at you and I'm like, look at his Instagram. You don't even know I'm looking at your Instagram. Yeah. No. Well, think about that. Imagine, it's kind of cool. Imagine you, you, you're, you're on the street. You're just, you're wearing something like this or you're somewhere up in the public and I can look at Justin and all of his handles. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I can see his Twitter handle, his Instagram handle with like that. And if it's like, he seems like an interesting person. Oh, I want to look at his thing. All right. Or we just started talking and then I automatically now have that store, you know, and I just go, oh friend, you know, and it's like, now he's a friend and automatically friends. Friend followers loser. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, what's up, Sal? Wow. Dude, I saw a crazy, you ever watch a video, like a real video and you're like, that is exactly my nightmare. That's exactly my nightmare. Okay. I saw a video. You could probably find this on online, Doug. There was some kayakers and they were just in the ocean, just whatever. And a whale swallows them. No. A whale comes up, big ass whale. It actually swallows them. Swallows them whole. Swallows them. Now it spit them back out because it's a whale and they don't eat meat, right? So, but imagine if you're that, you're in the water. I was going to say, this is like biblical. Bro, imagine you're in the whale going under water, like, I guess I'm fucked. A whale doesn't eat meat. Well, because it was krill. Yeah. I was just saying, yeah, they open their mouth super wide to get all the krill in there. So it was just probably going up to surface. Yeah. Oh, look, look at this. So is that a video? So a whale wouldn't eat like a big fish? I mean, if it gets trapped in there, don't care. They eat them. Oh, yeah. Look at that. Somebody actually caught a video of this. Turn off the sound. Yeah, dude, look at that. I want to hear a sound. Oh, maybe you're just screaming. No, no, dude. And Matt, that's, that's literally my nightmare. Somebody caught it. Look, look, look. Just swallowed them. It just got them. And look at the people watching. They're like, what? Look, nobody's freaking out. See you later, friend. Yeah, dude, look, look. It just comes up and swallows the people. Wow. Terrifying. Oh, dude. Bro, how come nobody around looks like they're freaking out? They're probably in disbelief. If you saw, if I saw, if I was swimming with you and a whale came up and swallowed you for about 30 seconds, I wouldn't believe what I saw. Well, thank goodness they're like a Jocelyn creature. Did you catch it? Did you get that on video? Yeah, yeah. The whale swallows Justin start sinking. Oh, fuck. I can't swim. There's like multiple angles. Oh, you know what? Because people were, they saw the whales in the area. So everyone had their cameras out, probably. Oh, there's multiple angles. Look at that. Whoa. Wow. In a kayak. What do you got? People were watching. Like, homies didn't even jump off. Whales eat silverfish. A silverfish. They were watching them. Like, they were watching the whales. They were really close. And now these, on the way of coming up, it's like, took the kayak. Did they survive? Yeah, they survived. I don't think he actually got swallowed. They got in their mouths. Because the boat was actually hanging out a little bit. So there was an opening. You don't even see them, though. After swallows, then the whales spit them out. Two person in kayak. Both survived. No serious. So they actually, did they all go down in the belly? Doug, once you're in its mouth, you're there, bro. Not in your own belly. I think that's it. Yeah, just in the mouth. I think he closed his mouth. They closed her mouth. And then he opened it up after they went under. But still, that's like, that's crazy. That was terrifying. That's got to be the ultimate story that you can tell someone. Like, someone's telling you, like, oh, this crazy thing happening. Be like, yeah, that's crazy. I'll wait till you're done. Yeah, hold my beer. Because I'm, yeah, because. That is biblical shit, though. Because a whale swallowed it. You can't help but go back and be like, what am I doing wrong? Jesus told me I was supposed to do it. What am I running away from? What did he tell me I was supposed to do when I didn't do it? Dude, that would be me. I'd be like, dude. You had some serious self-assessing. I knew I didn't stop masturbating. Become a monk after that. Dude, I, speaking of whales, there was another, there was this report. So killer whales have been known to attack small boats if the small boats are interfering with their hunting patterns and stuff. Oh, wow. So there was this one boat that there's killer whales and what they'll do is they'll come up and they'll whack the udder until they break it or whatever. They're organized. Have you ever seen kill seals? Dude. Like what they do. They'll whack the what? I saw a video. The, what should we call it? Rudder. Rudder, not udder. Not the udder. That's a cow. That's a cow. That's a cow. My bad. Thanks, Doug. I should have caught that. I said, I don't know. You're the cow expert. I just nodded. Yeah, sure. The cow expert already squeeze them. Yeah. Whack them and squeeze them. I was sure about the whale. I'm not a whale expert. You know, you know, out of that, I'm not going to introduce you. It is a mammal. This might be some science thing. There might be an udder on a boat. I see, I saw the killer whales doing this one time. It must have been a, you know, floating block of ice every bit. Oh, it's where they wash the water. Every bit of 5,000, 6,000 square feet, like huge, right? And this, this big old, you know, sea otters in the center of it and they were intentionally creating the waves. To wash them off. Yes. I wash them off. They washed them off. I ate that sucker. I was like, damn, that was like, and they were all coordinated. Yeah, they're smart. They were swimming together and then throw a huge wave and then eventually all broke. Sucker slid off. They're the kings of the ocean. They are. It's like, yeah, great whites. They hunt them. Scared of them. Yeah, they hunt them. If they, if a great, if killer whales show up where great whites are, great whites disappear and don't come back for like three or four seasons. Now, are they like a much higher intelligence? Do we know they're much, it seems like they're much smarter. They hunt organized. They hunt like. They're like pack animals. Yes. They're so and sharks don't aren't dolphins supposed to be the smartest in the water? They're smart. Yeah, I think they're supposed to be the most. I think killer whales are up there though. Yeah, it depends. I guess on the they're related, aren't they? I think they're related. Yeah. What's what's the name of them? Orcas. Yeah, but but what's the class? Oh, yeah. Let me find out. There is a name for that. I mean dolphins, dolphins obviously super smart. Yeah. So I was reading this report where they were on this boat and there's like the killer whales came up started hitting their boat, smashed the rudder, didn't stop. They all had to like call Mayday because they were sinking and a boat came and saved them. Wow. That's how pissed off. Actually, killer whales are considered dolphins in the dolphin family. Oh, yeah. See, that's all you're at. Dude, did you guys speaking of ocean whales, sharks, all this bullshit? Did you see the the Louisiana baseball player kid who jumped off the boat intentionally? Bro. Bro. That it was a clear thing about that. It was it was there. It was like their senior, senior trip to Bahamas or something like that. He got like a day like dared or he wanted to show off or something. Yeah. It was like totally did it intentionally. Everybody's laughing and videoing it like that and gone. Dead. Lost his feet. Eight by sharks. So they didn't find his body. It was at the ish like because obviously like that's the thing is like I think people think that like they'll be easily found and like once you're in the middle of the ocean and the boat is like is gone. Like good. You have a raft. You know what's so crazy? Like I guess you just don't really think about one. Those massive cruise ships take miles to turn around. Yeah. Yeah. So it's not like it can whip around like a little ski boat and come back and get it. It's gone. It doesn't have like a little GPS locator. I mean I actually would have if I thought I mean I would have known better. I definitely wouldn't have done something stupid either but to jump off like that and my friends all knowing and then they go tell the captain I would you would think that we would be able to save me in time. Yeah. It seems like yeah they would be able to turn it around and go. I think they threw a life ring. They did. And he swam away from it. Probably goofing off. Well maybe or he saw something coming towards him. That's what I saw. Is there a shark angle to the story? There is a shark angle to the story. It's okay. So I this is what I heard. Oh my god. That's even more terrifying. But I saw the video and it doesn't look like he's screaming help or anything. I think it even sounds like he's laughing or that everyone's all like I think it's a funny thing. I don't know. You know when I see videos like that they terrify me because I just imagine I'm on a cruise ship with one of my kids and my little jumps off like what do you do? Well and especially like the teenager age right like that that's the whole like it's the stupidest hierarchy. Of all humans the the dumbest in terms of checking order stuff is teenage boys. Yeah. Teenage boys are literally stupid. Yeah. Like they see they don't understand risk and danger. They just simply the limits. You know I can do this. Yeah I mean I did things at that age that I look back and I would would would slap the shit out of myself. Yeah. If I could. Isn't that weird that we all that we all do that? That you you everybody I don't know. I don't know a single man that doesn't have a story of ages 15 to 18 range. Yeah. Of him going like yeah that was probably some of the dumbest. It's just stupid. Like life stuff and cars. Life threatening dumb. Yes. Yeah I know. You know it's evolutionary. There's there well the theory is is that the the teenage to early 20s so like fifth like 16 to like you know 24 or whatever that's the age for conquest war for like dangerous scary shit. And you need and men are expendable right because a whole bunch of us could die and society still survives because you don't need a lot of men to procreate to create a bunch of offspring. You just need some men. So it's like so basically we die off and the strong ones make it. Yeah or no or just they need crazy people. They need we need. That's what I mean by the strong. They're strong. They're crazy and they survive. They're strong enough to do something that crazy and dangerous and make it through and then the weaker ones die right. Do you guys have I remember one time this is just talking about it makes me upset because it's just so dumb. I remember one time my cousins and I we first got our driver's licenses so we were 16 years old and we were racing our cars in residential neighborhoods and we were we were racing backwards in the cars we were when I would try to pass someone up I'd take the inside track around a corner all someone had to do was be there and it would have been a head on like just the dumbest stupid as shit when I think about it. That's yeah we should jump off cliffs like it was like we test each other that's how tall the cliff was and just just to see like why in the water on the guy. Dude you land on the ground it's like oh my god well it's like sand dunes so that like some areas we did it like it was like it was soft enough to like kind of catch the fall some wasn't it was just like rocks you know and we would just like ah just run off and just jump you know just to see if like you're tough enough if you could live for it. Just kill for it. Stupid dude. I kind of like you know be paralyzed. Actually I know someone who did that. Yeah. I know someone who got he him and his buddies were during each other and he did that and they're paralyzed from the chest down. Ugh yeah. All right. Yeah no we did the whole the car thing for sure right so when we were 16 there was there was a town between a little strip like a little highway it was a country road right so obviously not a super busy road but nonetheless absolutely stupid and anybody who's been around the central valley the central valley is known for its fog it's someone it's the worst fog you've ever seen in your life right it's like it's so thick like you can you can wave your hand and like it cuts like it's and you can't see nothing you can't see the end of your hood of your car that's how thick the fog is and it was like a night like that and we're heading to a party 30 minutes away on this highway and there's like four of us that are driving all of our cars and we're racing you know we're racing and passing each other so stupid and you know we're and we're you know one of my buddies is driving like an old you know a Toyota Camry and he's you know he would merge over and we're all throttling it trying not to let him pass and he's and so the pass is like slow and you're in the opposite lane and the fog you can't see the I mean just when you think back like what the fuck I mean you literally are just gambling with your life and and you think at that time it's like this like beat your chest alpha thing to do yeah seems like so cool when you're doing it and I look now as an adult all I can think of every time is I don't know if you guys know the band My Chemical Romance yeah like the that song The Teenager Scared The Living Shit Out Of Me yeah it's like it is completely where I'm at yeah I used to do this thing where I would drive in the car and we'd go down a dark dirt road and if I was with a girl I thought it was funny off shut the lights off and let's see how far I could drive before you yell chicken or whatever or and I thought it was hilarious literally can't see that was like a game you play who you like who would who be the first to like all right I give up go turn on turn on stupid oh and then you have kids as a dad and you know like well I tell you that one time I was in chemistry with my my buddy and we all did this experiment where you shock each other like where you make a circle everybody's holding hands and then you have like the call our our we had an unconventional chemistry teacher let's just say he's like we were able to blow stuff up and like it was awesome that's kind of cool yeah but so there was this one it like created a charge and and so there'd be two people holding at at one end and then we create this big chain and so he was just demonstrating that the electrical current would go through all of us and so people would get eliminated we made it like a game out of it right and so it ended up people dropping out but we kept going and it was just me and my friend holding the thing like this and we crank up the amplitude as high as we could and we're just holding them like my hair is like going there what just to see how long we can hold them somebody pulled the plug finally on us dude what was the name of the speaker that we saw at Dave Ramsey's thing who tried it what he tried to light fireworks oh my god that's what last name is O'Leary let me let me remind me what he was doing okay so he's same type of bullshit story he comes out this is the worst of it he comes out first off it was John O'Leary John O'Leary so all the talks there except for one were incredible all moving all very powerful all of them you take something away from so they were all just one after another destroyed me this is the one though that got all of us to cry several times several times so he comes out and he's obviously disabled he has no fingers on either hand and you could see that he's suffered some some burns on his body and when he was nine nine or ten i guess he saw some teenage boys in the neighborhood play with gasoline and fire he thought it would be fun to try it himself in his garage didn't realize that the fumes light opened the gas tank with the lighter on I guess and it just exploded right so as a ten-year-old boy just the whole house went up and he was covered 90% of his body yeah in burns anyway long story short first of all hilarious guy incredibly motivating story very painful yeah process ends up getting married to this beautiful woman has four kids becomes an incredibly successful speaker anyway as he's talking remember this guy has no hands there's a piano in the back and he starts telling a story about how his mom hired a piano teacher which is crazy your mom's a higher piano teacher every fingers she shows up and she says to him this is going to be hard almost impossible but i'm going to do this with you and that became kind of like what she started by like rubber banding a pencil pencil yeah so he goes back and i'm like a sword i'm thinking of my head as i'm watching him tell a story and then i noticed a piano i'm like i swear to god if he goes back there starts playing a song and start crying what does he do immediately he goes back there starts waterworks oh god this guy what a crazy what a great speaker what a powerful story yeah it was it was incredible he was incredible but i mean again just the reason why he brought it up was it highlights the the boy just the way your your your brain ticks you know i'm saying at that age is wildly the whole the whole theme of that story was always don't turn something down that is that is for good in other words when something presents itself if it's for good say yes to it and and the story he says is i don't remember what job he was doing and he just like was whatever and some some guy came up to him said hey will you talk to my i think it was in my rotary no it was started at the kindergarten class of like two kids or three girl scout cookie yes yeah and he goes and he goes well you know he made this decision with himself that i'm never going to say no for something for good and it was free so he goes and he talks and then another person said hey will you come talk to my road anyway this turned into this guy becoming one of this this massive exceptional speaker yeah that that's what he does to the stage yeah it was really really really good that was a great one by the way did you guys hear uh apple change like did something with their spell check yes yes it's fucking fuck no longer will sign me allowing it so it doesn't change in the doctor and no longer said no annoying that is when you're cussing on there and you want to get it out i ducking hate this so now it fixes it so you can say the f word what do you think that is like i like you you committed to doing that it's been that way forever and like now you're doing it like why why i mean that's a market demand i think so many people do it and change it like who the hell says duck in a sentence almost never right but everybody says the f word several times going fuck hunting i mean that's not gonna be good yeah you're staying home i gotta have a whole new thing to like explain now you know who knows your wife's like you're not going to you're not going anymore you're the guy's not gonna let you out this weekend yeah i know he saw it did you did you guys see al Pacino i did i heard though he had a baby the or he's having the oldest actor ever he's 86 to have yeah 86 or something and isn't this the girl like 29 is she 29 yeah this is 29 bro he actually had her great granddaughter he had her take a maternity test because he wanted to make sure yeah and it was his yeah it's his wow so i like are you bragging or you like it works like that's kind of like you should be embarrassed dude i mean that's like i was talking to train i'm like that when you're you're 80 he's 89 he's gonna be around he's exactly your kids will be ten eighty three eight he's 83 what was robert deniro when he had his robert deniro was like 78 hey you notice what these guys have in common hmm money italian oh it's all right no i think i think i don't know how the child that lay out for it though is so it's such a such a disservice and so yeah but i don't think he did it on purpose he wasn't trying to get a pregnant he just had sex you don't think so you think he was like you're gonna get pregnant yeah no i think he just had sex well what do you think happens when you have sex without well i know that dude this is a fucking guy with a 20 with a vibrant 29-year-old you have your 83 you're not begging your 80-year-old wife or girlfriend you'll say like you're having sex with a 29-year-old like she's at her prime yeah deniro is 79 wow spring chicken hey i wonder if pitino called him afterwards hey bro i beat you you know yeah yeah right uh because you know the you're 83 k 90 i mean he's he'd be lucky to live into his late 90s so at best your kid makes it to his early teens you know it's this brutal and then and even then like even aside his kid his mom's gonna have a lot of money to be remarried i guess yeah you know what i mean yeah but that's the you you've deprived that kid of their dad i don't know someone didn't have their dad for most of life like i i take that look well i guarantee you like elon musk will keep doing right this isn't his mission to like repopulate populate and you know he's young well you know you mean keep going always going yeah is he is he's oh by the way speaking of that we talked on the podcast somebody dm me and said there is a law that after you have 12 kids that you can actually or after 10 kids you can fight child support wow fact check me okay we talked about it keep going once you get to 10 you're like cool i don't care we we we brought up what's the same what's his name that has all the kids nick cannon nick cannon right who's got i think 12 or something like that and we said that that's bullshit there's no because someone else had said that before and then somebody reached out to me and said i it's there's a limit there is supposedly after it's either 10 or 12 after you have 10 or 12 imagine if the woman finds out to be the same partner now here's what i said to the person because i didn't get a chance to like dig deep into this i said that's most likely to protect some broke dad who's messed up 10 12 times and had 12 kids or whatever and not the multi millionaire i said i doubt i doubt that well like i doubt that will hold up for him yeah i'm sure whoever he had the 12th kid yes so i'm like maybe that that that world that law or loophole is there so in case some guy who is absolutely broke and has it has his 10th or 12th kid has a way out but i doubt that nick cannon gets away with not paying child support no i'm sure that's crazy you find anything done i'm looking for it okay yeah i yeah i don't know i think i mean obviously okay first off alpachino obviously had sex with her and then i don't think he's trying to get her pregnant so you know embarrassed he might be like fuck well i mean okay i guess here we go like what are you gonna do i mean if i'm him selfishly i'm happy and i'm fine that's good for him he's happy but that's that's totally selfish yeah that's how i look at that like he of course he's not upset or whatever it's like cool i mean you i you know how much joy how joy how much joy a child brings so yeah i'm sure it for him it's all great but i'm saying like yeah talk about not being responsible i'm not thinking about the kid what is it what does the wife look like i gotta see what she what she doesn't work with it with man but he knows yeah yeah let's see the girl was i right was she 29 or 39 i'm not sure let me in terms of genetic that's crazy like potential the defects higher you know right like higher yeah because well i mean with women i know like it's it's there's for a minute though it's still higher yeah of course it's higher but it's not like not like women women it women it gets exponentially higher they get older yes but not men not a lot for like issues but you know like but still there's higher risks with an older yeah 29 years old do you can i see what she looks like i want to see what this this girl looks like what is she's like what is she she's all laying next to this wrinkly like what's going on here well you know let me get a picture of Puccino's got some swag to him i mean he's 83 i still remember Annacle Smith in that one like a guy looked like the grim reaper at least al Pacino looks a little bit you know yeah not so he still looks yeah like let's see what let's see what this uh what this situation looks like oh my gosh he looks bad she's pretty she's gorgeous we talk about gorgeous and he's wow okay he looks bad right there oh god he looks those must be pictures where people are trying to make him look bad right get funny like for an 83 year old he looks pretty good that's not bad for an eight three year old how many eight three olds have you seen in your life he does he does look bad dude yeah i feel like they've chosen a really bad that's what i think too can you find me a picture where he like actually was dressed up going somewhere nice together where like maybe he's done up a little bit because those look like people are trying to wonder how i wonder if those are those are magazine things trying to make him look like he's about to die with a young hot chick i mean you know yeah i know he looks pretty he looks like death well i mean i'm sure he's happy he doesn't look bad he's 83 bro for an 83 year old he looks good yeah okay right there okay well that's that's he turns 80 right there that's three years ago yeah so listen 83 years old looks a lot older than that or 80 year old looks a lot older than that so jeez man well i guess that's a lot of my egress huh yeah i guess right yeah i looked into the kids thing and it's not true um so the case came up actually with nick cannon it was one of her one of his baby mama's on selling sunsets at the show she made the claim that after 10 kids you don't have to pay child support but it's not true that's what he told her yeah looks like nick convince her sorry babe oh listen we could date but here's the problem like once i appreciate the hustle there but yeah she's like okay yeah she told her friends that it's sorry nick you gotta pay but you could tell people you have my kid yeah that's worth something holy cow oh my god so bad all right so i got uh i'm gonna bring up some cool a cool study that i just pulled up on uh eating disorders or disordered eating right and there's there's varying degrees of disordered eating that could be as extreme as you know clinical anorexia or it could be the kind of disordered eating where you just have challenges with food and you know stuff like that so check this out this is a psychology today the title of the article is the intersection of trauma and eating disorders so new research shows how trauma therapy helps recovery from an eating disorder up to 50 50 percent of people with eating disorders also have ptsd and they're finding in these studies that one of the challenges with eating disorders is a large percentage of people drop out of therapy and then they go back to whatever they were doing before but when these people get p like like therapy for trauma the success rate is much higher because that was the root of the self-hate the the root of why they were medicating with food it was uh because of the trauma pretty crazy now for us as trainers who work with people i don't think that's too shocking yeah there's there's almost there's often a connection but it's pretty cool now the medical community started kind of pinpointing it now yeah and looking into that's good how much how much do you think psilocybin can play in a role in that well i don't um so the the trauma connected yeah so the therapy the studies on therapy with uh you know they'll call psychedelics psilocybin ketamine i think is up there mdma is up there finds a high success rate with ptsd there's also studies that show a success rate with alcoholism in fact you might might look this up dugs uh psychedelic therapy for alcoholism study maybe google that so i think i mean i've talked about this before this is a whole new frontier of yeah why are we not moving faster we are do is it moving faster ketamine therapy is legal in california yeah literally you could go right now if you have trauma or you need to work through something or whatever you could go to a place and you could do ketamine therapy right now with a licensed uh individual isn't psilocybin in organ legal now like yes recreation we as well as i don't know if it's legal for i think in colorado they're using it for therapy are they i think so i think it was colorado i saw that was using it already i know there's some places that are i haven't tried cat i'd be really interested how i wonder how close ketamine feels like to psilocybin i think it's very different i don't think i have no idea to be honest i've never tried it but from what i've read i don't think it's classic psychedelic yeah i thought i don't know i totally wrong there's more of like a almost like tranquilizer it is a tranquilizer okay so here's a psychedelic drug helped people with alcohol use to sort of reduce drinking study shows so okay so mdma for example is in the category of uh psychedelics but it doesn't make you see things like mushrooms or lsd it's known as an entheogen so it's a it's a psychedelic with your emotions and perception i think ketamine is similar so you're not going to take it in this feeling like uh mdma feel maybe right so you're not going to see things like if you if you did those things or notice bright colors a lot of stuff but rather you may uh be able to perceive that's why i feel like like a micro dose of psilocybin sure all the times that i've done psilocybin i have yet to do like a heroic dose or some crazy psychedelic i have no desire to do that yeah every time it's been like a a micro dose and even the like i don't know what you call in between a micro and like a big dose or whatever but where i can like see him dose there is there's a term for i don't know that is a term museum dose is it yeah you take it and you go to the museums and look at shit yeah so i've been i've i've had doses high enough that i can like look at the clouds and get all the kind of psychedelics up but then i can like focus where i'm at and then i can pull you're not like going yeah i'm pull i can pull out of it right so i've been there but every time we do it's it always opens doors for me it always is open like some sort of connection with katrina or something that we have been talking about in our relationship or i i see things from a different perspective and see i can just see how much how much value this would have for a lot of people that i also recognize the pitfalls the dangers the the people that are going to chase that you know we've witnessed that in our own space like it's become like it and it feels like what every 20 to 30 years it's not a replacement for spiritual practice no this is what people start to do with it yeah and they end up chasing the high versus actually putting the work into the thing that was revealed to you well they start referring to psych this is when you know that they've gone me i don't know when they start to refer these to these substances as godlike deities like mother aya or whatever right like the plant will tell you like it's a god itself yeah then what they're doing substituting a spiritual practice or religion for but that's what it's a bummer because of that because i feel like we have we have these two ends of the spectrum that most people that are unfamiliar scared of never mess with it look at it's like oh you either have the super hardcore you know you know mother isle huska type people or you have the drug seeking people where it's like there's there is actually an application for this that could help a lot of people out with trauma or relationships have gone in go back to where that page was dug that was a crazy stat that i was on whoever had the tv up there the i read that two i think therapy sessions with silo cyber reduced like eighty five percent right almost 90 percent of heavy drinking i've seen that wow with drinking it's it's like unbelievably successful not like kind like you know like okay here's the thing like we talk about we we we we talk about the benefits of cannabis and cannabis has been amazing and it's got all these positive things and you're talking about making incremental change and help for people you're talking about eighty five ninety percent scroll up because there's also you've heard of ibegain has like a crazy success rate as well as addiction yeah heroin heroin yeah what's ibegan ibegain it's this african plant that supposedly could be really powerful supposedly really unpleasant can be really scary yeah but they'll go do one dose of it and then never ever never want to use heroin or opiates again interesting but it could kill you that's the scary part yeah no no it can it's supposedly really uncomfortable oh my god yeah yeah look at this during the eight month trial 93 men and women ages 25 65 were chosen to receive either two psilocybin doses or any histamine pills i guess that's the control and and they also used a placebo and they did 12 psychotherapy sessions so two doses of psilocybin 12 psychotherapy sessions more than 80 of those who were given the psychedelic treatment had drastically reduced their drinking eight months after the study started in 80 percent success 88 months later 80 percent success rate is insane that's crazy that's what i'm saying like why is it not because they have there is no pharmaceutical psilocybin there is no reason why the whole the bullshit thing about all this is because there's not a way for pharma to make a fuck ton of money off of it so it's like you have to scour as soon as that happens hopefully yeah people just move in that direction then it's gonna be like that all right uh on the medicine front create this is a massive potential breakthrough so for parents with children who have severe food allergies which now are way too common they're just when i when we were kids it was rare to know a kid with a food allergy where they could die yeah uh like a peanut allergy these days now in most corn nut jimmy yeah nobody can eat corn nuts right yeah it's really annoying just a corn nut allergy that was such a dick yeah these what that real kid yeah we all yeah we stopped like bringing in food and everything because like he had allergies that were real bad wait are you seriously bullying jimmy still wait wait i was just joking was it real or is it real no it's real yeah corn nut jimmy i'm just kidding but really but also it happened all right so so anyway continue so anyway uh now schools have like peanut or allergy free tables or areas that can't bring can't even have can we can't even make you a peanut butter jelly sound yeah because it was all pissed off because it's so bad that even just second hand exposure boom we'll kill you right and they have to have epi pens everywhere it's really scary my sister has a kid like that it's just so she and she's always got to be real careful we're stressful she's had to use an epi pen on them i think a couple times she's got PTSD from that experience by the way if you watch your can imagine you watch your four year old stop breathing and then you got to hit him with this thing and hope that they come back oh my so it's scary right well anyway there's this they've been using this patch where they'll put this patch on a kid and in the patch are micro doses or micron doses of the peanut that slowly goes into the system and i think they gradually increase the dose of the patch they've successfully gotten these kids who are deathly out allergic to be able to eat like up to one or two peanuts and have no issues so this doesn't mean they're going to eat peanut butter jelly sandwiches but no they're now out of danger but yeah they just have it around them yeah they're not going to die because you open peanuts next to them in the dust flew in the air right wow that's awesome that's this is a huge breakthrough what remember when we were talking about justing getting his poison oak and so with that and i was telling you that like i remember hearing like one of the strategies people would eat poison oak or like intentionally like i have heard that yeah yes they would do that to keep sense yeah to get it into their their body adapted to it that way especially if you lived in an area where there was lots of it all the time yeah like having to get it all the time like they would eat it in order to get it into their system and then their body wouldn't get the same reaction as like the average person who come across sense did you guys remind me of that scene from one of my favorite moves the whole time the princess bride you guys are watching that that's one of your favorite one of my favorite justice too i bet i do love it there you go you're the only one yeah i think i've seen it once it's a great movie under the giant six finger man yes such a great movie my name is something my voice uh the scene where the guy is the guy's like you know when death you know never mess with the Sicilian when death is on the line and he puts the poison out and the guy drinks it and he goes he goes i poisoned both of them but i built up a taller it was up to the tolerance yeah yeah that's by the way i would uh caution against eating poison oak it seems to be a myth oh great thanks yeah look at that Doug just saved us a lawsuit yeah don't do that kids yeah yeah don't listen to Adam i wasn't really excited to do that anyways i don't know who's running out there to go put this is why you correct me earlier when i said udder because he's like i don't know i've been wrong so many times there might be another one about anyway hey so the shout out has got to be that guy that we just talked about yeah John O'Leary so John O'Leary dot inspires is that on instagram Doug that is instagram yes you got to find this guy watch his talks i'm telling you it's it was moving great yeah love that guy hey look if you love strength training but want to be able to work out at home go check out a company called prx they make gym home equipment it's literally as good as the stuff you see in commercial gyms except it's designed to be used at home for example they have a squat rack that folds into the wall literally comes off the wall uh and you can use it as a squat rack but when it folds up it's less than six inches it's like four inches off the wall so you can park your car in the garage use the room whatever they have weight plates barbells dumbbells uh safeties all kinds of stuff go check them out and you can also pay monthly so it's like a gym membership again but you work out at home go to prxperformance.com forward slash mind pump and on that link you'll get a five percent discount all right back to the show first question is from canadian mom runs why is tackling your weight training as a circuit better worse or different than doing it in a non-circuit format okay one of the things that makes it's worse yeah one of the things that makes strength training or resistance training resistance training or strength training is well there's a few factors you're lifting something heavy you're doing it for reps usually under 30 and you're resting in between sets if you cut the rest out you're essentially doing cardio with weights yeah and you lose 95% of the value of the strength training the muscle building the metabolism boosting makes a big difference sculpting you're just doing cardio with weights and people think this is strength training it's not it's more conditioning it's more endurance training than it is uh strength there's a reason why curves died yeah and was for a moment in time the one of the most popular chains in the world is it got great marketing around it exploded and then when everybody realized it sucks for what it's trying to accomplish you burn calories right yeah and that's that's really like the the benefit is is burning cows but it's if you're trying to actually build strength build muscle like it's just not as a valid of a strategy no it doesn't boost your metabolism and then trying to work out to burn calories lose weights a terrible strategy anyways we've talked about yeah on the show many times so it's moving and if you don't hurt yourself it's better than not moving but if you're trying to gain the benefits of strength training that we talked about so much on the podcast uh circuit training is just not the way to do it now there's a way to do it that'll give you some of the effects of strength training like you could do hit training with weights without too many exercises combined with a break in between the combination and you're still not getting the same effects of strength training but you're getting some of the effects okay but but to 90 percent of people watching this or more like don't do that you're also bringing up a point here in terms of like the quality of reps and the quality of the exercises a lot of times when you put together a circuit the actual kind of bang for your buck exercise you you don't really include those in there because they're highly technical high risk and so you're going to add a bunch of these like easier exercises to get through and also to like the fatigue sets in which the fatigue actually like hinders a lot of like really good performance as you're performing techniques so well look at the to your point Justin remember when we used to 24 fitness they had the um what was it called this something something zone yeah yeah it was called i know you're talking about not fat so it was i can't remember what it was called something that's you just entered the fat so everybody love getting in line for that why are you taking an alarm goes off you got another one why don't you take me to the fat zone this terrible guy when you're like the worst trainer ever horrible marketing horrible marketing it was not called the fat zone it was called something else so so but it was 24 fitness it was there it was their answer or response to the the rise of curves and so it literally had a a machine for every muscle so like a shoulder press machine a bicep curl and then a tricep machine machine machine a leg extension okay so it was like a bunch of these machines you could do that right three times through can say like 15 reps 15 reps 15 can say like three times through and it is less valuable than someone doing three sets of eight barbell back squats yeah like that's how how shitty circuit training is in comparison to one exercise done eight times or eight reps for three sets like you're talking about and by the way it would take same amount of time or less just to do those three sets that's how that sounds significant of a difference circuit training is to you would get almost identical results if you literally did jumping jacks the whole time that's how worthless it is so same effect next question is from mario moony of six are bcaa or ea a powders worth buying so bcaa stands for branch chain amino acids this is lucine isoleucine and valine essential amino acids which include the branch amino acids are all the amino acids that you have to eat because your body can't produce them that's why they're called essential they're only worth buying and using if your protein intake is low and you don't want to eat more protein okay so if you're eating a low protein diet you don't want to take a protein powder to help you don't want to eat more protein then these will benefit you you'll notice more muscle you'll notice better recovery and more strength now if you're okay with taking a scoop of protein powder like whey protein or plant protein or you're okay with just eating more protein that's way better because protein has branch amino acids and essential amino acids in it literally a scoop of whey protein is going to give you more of both of these than a scoop of a powder that is both of these so if your protein intake is high then then you're that's like literally it would be like you have a it's like having a swimming pool full of water to the rim so and you add more water to it just spills out does nothing it's not it's not doing anything more for you do you we get this question a lot because i know they're marketed like crazy and i and i try and think of like where where i where i would find application because there's there's always seems to be some sort of application somewhere where it's like okay that makes sense this is where i give it to it it's really hard for me here because even with the marathon runner or the the the endurance training person i i still think that i would do a scoop of whey or ready to drink protein check right like i would just do that really quick and get the calories and the protein which my body would need both right i need a little bit of get more glucose i just went on a four-hour run so i'm going to need some quick and let's say i went on a four-hour run i'm going to go do something else it's like i want to get quick calories i want carbs i want i want protein like i wouldn't get it through i wouldn't take pills yeah is it like if they're competing like in their marathon run and like uh let's say because it's like it's it's a powder that can mix with water it's like hydrating versus like a protein shake that's thick and maybe i don't know i'm like racking my brain for something i had one guy that benefited from this and that's because he was a friend of mine who did jujitsu with me and is he was a vegetarian his protein was low and i couldn't talk him into taking protein powder he's like i don't want that process crap that was his answer so for some reason i'll take these pills instead for some reason he was okay i'll take the processed stuff that smashed up in a pill though yeah he was a concentrated yeah i'll take the protein powder take out all the other amino acids put in a pill form and i'll take that that's what he did and he saw great results because his protein intake was low but he would got better results had he just taken a protein powder or eaten more so i think that's a good so that's a good point okay this is where this is like where there is even an argument here right because they'll be like oh bullshit there's the studies that show this or it's like okay if you are a um a man or a woman that needs to eat 180 grams of protein let's say every day is what is ideal for you to build muscle and you consistently only get 50 to 60 grams and then all of a sudden the only thing you do different is you add these bcaas you'll notice into your routine you'll notice yeah it will help but you would get the same or or better results adding a protein shake every single day it's to that exact same scenario so then to me it's like why do the the branched amino acid so i mean that's where i have such a hard time promoting a product like this next question is from Kirk Pada is it better to skip your workout if you're tired and get more sleep or push through it and get to the gym even though you're tired if you're somebody that never misses a workout then skip the workout and get some sleep if you're somebody that consistently misses your workout yeah go to the gym and work out much easier it's that's that's basically now why much easier too because you're tired right because you're tired you don't get a good sleep you could still go to the gym and get some benefit from doing an easy workout but if you're like like if you never miss a workout you get a night of crappy sleep you'll actually get more benefit in terms of muscle and fat loss and health and performance from taking that day off yeah that covers the basis i've had both types of clients yeah exactly i would have to say those you know depending on which one you were that would be whichever one you're more of a chronic per are you a more of a chronic bad sleeper are you more of a chronic workout skipper if you're a chronic workout skipper go to the fucking gym you need to go to the gym as much as you possibly can you miss all the goddamn time if you are a chronic bad sleeper then hey maybe you're somebody who needs to get some better rest and put some emphasis on that because you'll get more results from going to the gym i do always go back to the conversation that we had with our friend uh doctor annie galpin when we did talk a little bit about this discussion and you know even that kind of changed a little bit of my perspective on the value of pushing through sometimes in this there is value optimizing and and yeah learning to adapting or operating that's right that's right that was the case was talking about adapting or optimizing and stuff like that and you're not always for you know looking to optimize sometimes you're looking just to adapt and vice versa and so there is some value in every once in a while one yes this is not the ideal time for me to train but the ability to be able to push through when i don't feel good and so that that has value to it too so if it is something that was is rare and occasional not a bad situation mental discipline there for sure yeah now to be this full disclosure as a trainer i never told my clients to skip a workout because then that meant i didn't have a session when they would call me it's not fine why'd you show up and let's be honest that's the 99% of the clients that hired any of us needed accountability needed someone to tell them to go to the gym we're working out so so i i wasn't training one of the guys in the room right here that like i probably would tell hey go get bro you need sleep go get some sleep where because you don't miss a lot of workouts your clients miss workouts all the time next question is from Kyle Saliba any tips on starting the process of getting into bodybuilding and competing yeah i'll defer to you Adam this what would you say to somebody who's like hey i want to get into body building competing what would be some of the i guess like like maybe milestones or things to focus on before doing requisites there's a there's actually a lot right so first i think it's really important that you have a really good relationship with exercise and nutrition and it's not some form of uh exaggerated form of body dysmorphia for you um i would make the case in argument that most all of the best body builders and by the way we have more and more than that are speaking out i do think it's because they hear it on mind pump and it's gotten around by now uh but you have you know mr olympia eight time mr olympia phil heath talking about his he still suffers today with body dysmorphia right and so even though we there's so many people that admire and respect and look up and aspire to be like him you don't want to be like him he is he is he is tortured inside with body dysmorphia so bad that he's been able to chase eight trophies because of it like that's not a healthy relationship with exercise and diet so first and foremost i think you have to have a very good relationship with the quote unquote sport and i know there's a community of people that hate for me to call it a sport because it's nothing like football or basketball or baseball and i feel like i can do that because i've lived in both of those fields it's like it is a sport in the sense that you have to be able to step out of it too and and put the ball down every once in a while and be okay with that and not suffer with this you know crippling body dysmorphia around oh my god i'm getting fat now or oh my god i missed a meal so i think that's first and foremost you need to have a very good relationship with your body and and what you're trying to do if you don't it's going to just amplify the hell out of what a dysmorphia right like if i got in a bodybuilding in my 20s it would have been a very bad situation for me versus me getting in a bodybuilding in my 30s when i'd already worked through all of that stuff so i had a good relationship with that like i had a very clear vision of what i was trying to do i was trying and i was trying to use it as a way to show people i knew the i knew what i was doing i knew what i was doing at the at the highest level so i could help build the business that we're we're running today i didn't have these these insecure issues about my body and that was feeding into that which is most people so i think you you needed you need to have that i also think you uh should be honest with yourself if you're really trying to get into this sport you know and uh and if you want to be good at it it's like any other sport in this sense too that there's certain body types that are really made for it and others don't doesn't mean you can't have a body type because i don't think i have a great body type for bodybuilding i still did it but you gotta be able to look at yourself and be honest with yourself that i am am i a genetic freak like some of these bodybuilders which is how i easily could step away once i went pro is like people like oh you don't want to chase the olympia stage and like why like i'm not i'm not made to be the guy who is number one on the olympia stage proving i could go pro was enough for me so be honest with yourself with if you even have that body type and then third is learning how to practice the the whole dieting process and getting yourself ready for stage before you ever get on to stage so for about a year and a half i was running like diet cycles to try and get myself into that shredded physique to what i would present on stage practicing you learn about your body right yes like how like where how many calories i needed to cut how much i needed to move you know if i cut this aggressively did i lose muscle did i maintain did i get lean enough like so i think practicing that before you put yourself in this like position where you have to be a certain before you know what did you say also make sure you have a pretty healthy metabolism before you do this that would fall in the category of the you know if you're only eating 1700 calories yeah you ain't gonna do a 12 week you know that's right that's that comes into with the practicing the the cut like you you'll see a lot of people that and this is even more common on the women's bikini you see this a lot where coaches will just put women on on ungodly 100 calories of cardio and low low calorie and just destroy their their hormone profile so be very careful and understand that too like when you go into cut for a show you want to be at the highest calorie intake you've ever been in your life you want to be eating a lot of calories because you got a long ways to go even if you're relatively lean to get shredded for a stage you're gonna have to do several calorie restricting calorie cuts to get there and you want to be able to plan like okay if i go down you know 500 here 500 here 500 here 500 here what am i left with and is that a healthy place for me to be very long and if it's not i better not be in there for a very long period of time meaning weeks or months at a time just to get to that body fat percentage so keep that in mind too right look if you like mine pump you can get a workout set up for you every single week for under five dollars a month go to instagram mine pump media subscribe under five dollars a month to get all that you can also find all of us on social media so justin is at mine pump justin on instagram i'm at mine pump de stephano and adam is at mine pump adam today we're going to teach you everything you need to know to build a strong well-developed chest when i think of weak points and in areas that i struggled with developing for a really long time chest was up there with the yeah it was for me it was for me for sure i got more caught up in the weight i could lift versus how i was developing my body i think it's one of the most challenging muscles to develop for most people because the form and technique