 And I can still be heard. I can still be heard, right? I can still be heard. I hope not Hey, welcome back to our stupid rx up Gormand and you can follow the Instagram Twitter for more Thank you to everybody's boats on patreon We're unhinged hey welcome back today, we're doing another movie review And we are doing another Technically classic Malian them film with the Mammoth Did you hear what Nasus Rajmouli said about the Malayalam actors? That they're good. Yeah, he just recently was quoted saying hey, I know this is a he didn't say this But it's no I know this is a hot take But he says it's very obvious that the the best actors are coming out of Malayalam cinema Well, yes, obviously, but they also Probably have the best writing They're just doing yeah, they're doing and great directing and just they're they're they're doing elevator of artistry Pretty consistently. Anyways, we're going on our Mammoth's tangent here We're we're aware he has another name and I it starts with an M, but where you call him Mammoth's Malmukar or something the Mammoth's I like the Mammoth's But this is another one of his from 1994 called Vidhayan, where were you in 94? Three years old Vidhayan Directed by Adur Gopal Krishnan Which I believe that translates to the servile at least that's what I saw On the yeah servant. Yeah, right slave Uh Who's a he's the writer as well of this right from it's an adaptation apparently. Yeah And starring Mammoth's and mr Yeah, Gopal Kumar and then uh Tavi Azmi and sabitha anand We've seen them in a few things. We've seen her apparently in Bajirao and Ijuani Ijuani and Oh, I recognize her. She was in Bajirao. Yeah I knew I was trying to figure out where I placed that we just know her. I think more older Yeah, then as definitely. I think the youngest we've seen her. Um, but anyways, uh, it came highly recommended as one of um another Mammoth since we've been doing the wall and we did Catholic or and Rorsch Rorschach or something like that. Um, and so obviously this one came highly recommended And I heard this one was more Mammoth's in a villainous role kind of villain Um, I'm not putting that in quotes. I think he's not a bad guy A bad guy I was putting quotes. I mean villain. You might think he's a villain, but I don't necessarily bad guy villain. I think like joker He's a bad guy. Anyways, but this will be 100 spoiler review. Uh, if you haven't seen it before Please go watch on youtube. Yeah, it's on youtube. It's about an hour 50 So you can go watch that come back and rick your initial thoughts of this one for me didn't Uh, uh captivate me in the way say like the wall did or some of the other ones this one for me just was kind of there Uh, I it was okay I don't have anything particularly superlative to say about it nor do I have anything particularly derogatory to say about it Other than just it it didn't engage me the way Whereas the wall was very contemplative and circumspect and meditative at at at all times. This one just was kind of Flat and uninteresting for me throughout a lot of it. And that's just my my particular take on it So for me, this is one of those where I pass. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it That's me. Uh, no, I I liked it. It wasn't the wall for me. Obviously. I think the wall is a really great film this one, uh I I don't agree that there's nothing superlative about it. I I do think there are Stuff that are very notorious for this. It definitely had a weird pacing and Certain ways that uh They decided to edit to show time Laps and as well that I thought was like, I think you could have done that a little better to Let the audience know this is not five minutes ago. This is probably quite a few um weeks or Some some time frame. Um, and so and obviously the the pacing was a a lot slower with stuff that, um Um, yeah, it's I think it's just a one of those things that I think jimmy coined it not this that this is fully this malayalam chill. They just take their time I think malayali chill what they coined is more of like bangler days though in terms of like it's more of a feel good Chill, uh, this is more of just they took their they took their time And it's only an hour 50. So it's not like um, they like dragged or anything, but they definitely, um At times I thought they could have picked up the pace a little bit, but uh, it was definitely they They also like the same thing with the editing they started off right out like just weirdly I like to the start with like five minutes of score Oh, well that once we get past the opening credits. I meant that very first scene and they just get into the scene Yeah, immediately Um, without any like in the so they kind of introduced the characters right away there um But I I enjoyed mamout's uh performance in this, uh, I would I would have loved and I think if it was done now The director would have had him do like made him even more kind of menacing um This is 1994 they clearly had a very low budget for anything. Yeah, so like anything like with um That when they were being physical or fights, obviously you could tell like all right try your best to uh, look like you're beating this guy up right because Um, it when we said many times it takes money to make action Look good. Yeah, because you can't actually punch people on nobody wants to be fully punched on set. No But I enjoyed his performance. Um, I would have liked them to go even further into him being Menacing, but uh, I thought he did a good job. What do you think of mamout's? I know you said there wasn't anything I thought he was fine. What is the word I'm looking for? I don't know Meritorious. Thank you. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I thought he was fine Whereas other roles I've seen him in I'm utterly captivated At all times this one was was for me just fine. It wasn't anything particularly mesmerizing captivating Uh, it was just It was okay. Yeah. Uh, what'd you think about him though? The other guy same. I actually thought he did a very good job I liked him a lot. Um, I I I enjoyed his it was obviously easy to sympathize with well, yeah, for sure. He is definitely the protagonist In this yeah, and he's clearly playing a character that, um Is like his at the time that this was In whatever cast he was or wherever he was in life, right there his only Um way that he couldn't move up in the world or his only worth was basically through His master, right? That's the only reason he was probably I guess he thought alive in certain Dances is because uh of his who his master was right, even though it's obviously, um awful Just terrible And I think if you had redone it today, which is not There's nothing they could do about it back then because it was what it was back then I think if you did it today, you could make this a lot more Unsettling. Yeah, uh in many respects. There's a lot more you could show in terms of what was Brutal. Yes. Yeah, uh, and I this is one that I think probably could do with a good you could Um bring back my moods at least uh the other guy is probably Maybe a little too old now, but you could still have my moods as the uh as the awful slave owner But you can up the production quality You can up some of the the impact that it has because I bet they were And I bet the even though I obviously I'm sure when people saw it at the time They were probably and and I know a bunch of people still are raving about this movie Um, especially if you saw it at the time for Malayalam cinema and Indian cinema as a whole Yeah, but obviously you could have more impact now with Just how film has progressed. Yes And what you because you really even though you you kind of got the gist that he was an awful person You really need to feel it more Yeah with certain things. Yeah, so you're like, oh, I just this guy really needs to die obviously um I think in certain aspects memutes brought his his charm, um to At certain points you're like bring some humanity to this person But uh, obviously for the most part this guy had almost no humanity Yeah, at all, uh, it would have been wonderful to see the The demons and the evilness even more And I think that has a lot to do with filmmaking and story though And I suspect that was the way in the original material because the running away sequence where he's consistently asking Tommy, do you think she knew it was me? Yeah Is the place where we begin to see some semblance of guilt which would evidence a level of Moral humanity, but it just was Everything just kind of felt um Not The way I can best describe some things like this is like it looks and presents itself fine like The the the proverbial Chocolate bunny at at Easter. It looks and presents itself fine. However, there's nothing really in inside of it that You're left with a sense of wow. That was really wonderful It just has it looks fine and then when it's all said and done there really wasn't much There's a you know a couple of moments of crying without tears. There's a couple of moments that feel strained emotionally where we're trying to find something as actors rather than just experience it and and so it That's why it was just kind of There there's a whole lot more I would have liked to have seen done in a in a different way um I think it had a a a decent message behind it. Um, but yeah, I this is I think the the pacing definitely didn't help um and also just I Wanted more with an evil character like this not like that mammoody wasn't giving enough I think he was giving exactly probably what the director wanted. Um, it's just in the writing and in the filmmaking process Like I was left with like did wait did he just have sex with his Yeah, it's like I think they wanted us you shouldn't then that shouldn't happen Your thoughts shouldn't be it should be absolutely did he it should be holy crap What did he just do and it missed that so many times even You know kicking that guy to death basically. Yeah, I'm thinking to myself He's probably kicking him to death, but I don't believe he's kicking him to death Yeah, well, it's one of the budgetary things that I said like because they panned up to him and mammoots was pretending He was yeah, but you could budgetarily you don't have to kick him to death You could kick him once knock him down and then you could grab a stone and bludgeon him and that would be a lot more Graphic and unsettling per se As would doing something where you convey what's going on where he's raping tom. He's wife. Yeah more In a more you were you were more left with like a question of like did he just do that right? Um, and maybe that's what they wanted I don't know why you would want that because if you want to convey that this guy is a very evil man I think you would want it to shock the audience and that you wouldn't I think that's the payoff is that you don't want to like this guy at all and toward the end You need to have two things happen, which is find the humanity in beskar in some way and then also find some rationale for tommy to stay with him besides just being a coward Like I said, it's just because at the time he was The only worth like this kind of person in india or in this region at least Had was to their master and yeah, so that's why um, but then that was my thought at the end as well is He I know he's happy to not be under the the foot of this man But where does that leave him Now where does he go now? I think he was just running to his wife. No, no, no, I know that I know where does he go in terms of where does his life go Now because I didn't I wasn't particularly happy with the fact that he was now free because to me He was just going to go from one bad place to Another bad place because of the fact that his station and life is what it is and that he's always going to be in that position Well, I mean they clearly said they moved around before so I imagine but you know, I I don't mind the the open ending of that It's fine Leaving me wondering what's going to happen to him and as well. Oh sure and that kind of stuff But I like I said I And you could even bring back most of these actors Um, you probably have to bring back other younger actors probably For others than mammoody, but this is one that I think you could redo And one I think it would do well Because it's mammoody and it's a classic film of his But then also I think you could make it a better movie Um, I agree the same director. Um, and and just give him a better budget, uh and just Let it hit more with the impact of yeah this awful awful person like you don't have obviously at the time I haven't I haven't wasn't intending like they needed to show him raping her. That's not what I'm saying Because no nobody likes watching that and it was 1994 in indian cinema. Sure I'm well aware they're not going to do that. They're not going to do that now Um, but there's ways you could do it and we've seen it in indian cinema that they leave a disgusting impact on you And not just that other things that he did Um that were just heinous and yeah and evil. Um that I would have liked the impact to hit harder Yeah, and as well as this kind of story that they'd needs to as well as the story that is communicated with the visuals of the cinematography because so often in the cinematography for example in the wall There there are moments where a picture paints a thousand words There's an intentionality that you can see behind the cinematography and the framing and the lighting and what they're showing And why they're showing it that has a poetic justice behind it that that is conveying something In addition to what's scripted and I felt that a lot of cinematography here was simply To show you where they were I didn't I didn't sense things within the cinematography that were Complimenting the storytelling in the same ways other films do that captivated me and made me think that the whole film itself Was that much more Meritorious this one just kind of to me captured where they were far far more than What was going on does that make sense? Yeah, yeah um I think there was some nice cinematography moments like um But once again, I would have liked it to hit even more though, but I like when they were It's another scene that I think if they did it now You could have shot in a way that was like brutal to watch when they were he he had killed his wife and then um, the tommy came in and to hang Her to pretend she killed herself, right? Like I think that could have been a gruesome scene of tommy trying to get this girl this lady that he had admiration for sure and love for sure actually hanging her Uh and like the struggle that that would have been emotionally physically. Yeah. Yeah For him to do well and again, of course, you know her feet. I thought was a nice shot Between yeah, of course if they were to do it today, which is something you got to get you know, you can't you can't Wish it was something different in 94 based on what you could do with it in 2024 30 years ago I do think like The example I gave where he killed the guy kicking him and it didn't really have a punch versus if he had done something a little bit more Definitively violent that they could have just shown. I think that too as well could have Been done with the budget they had and that's the the filming of the day There there's just so much that I think could have been done to convey more of the shock more of the Detaste distasteful behavior of bascar the sadness of what tommy's having to go through that just They for whatever reason they didn't do it. Yeah. Uh, well was this I don't know where this was in a doors Filmography he seems old. So it's probably not in the beginning of his career It looks old 25 directing credits. Let's see 1994. So this was not Wait short short short short short short short short short No, so he had he had been around. I don't know like if these were like Well-known productions, but he had been around at least 10 years Um in the industry How big those were don't know and yes, I do know that it won the, you know, best picture for malayalam cinema of the day But nice. Yeah, that's um, a lot of people really enjoy this film. Um, I got I got recommended at a time Just like we did the wall Uh, I think I think after I watched it. I saw jimmy's review. I think they both gave it a seven out of 10 I think We don't do the grating We just say whether you should see it or skip it. Basically. Uh, you like it or don't like it. Um Yeah, I just I don't even say see or skip it because People can decide for themselves. No, there's some movies people should skip Like I said that you should warn them and help them not waste. I will tell them what I think about it But I will you can go see it yourself and and decide for yourself Some movies are so bad They don't need to be seen and you don't need to give them more money to make more films like that Other people have different opinions of them. So I just tell them my opinion if you like it, you can like it if you don't Tell me why No, you say if you like Especially if you're passionate about something you say if you don't like it, you're an idiot Yeah, well, it's I just those are the things I don't understand. Yeah when it's so good And I really want to know the reason and usually it's just I was bored because they like action And it's a drama or something like that. That's usually the reason like with cough on the core If you don't like other the courts because you want to watch Kgf or yeah, what was the recent? There's a recent movie. I was talking with somebody about Oh Oh, yeah I was talking with this guy. I met at 24 hour fitness who's an actor and I had we had just struck up a conversation and He asked me if I had seen wonka and I said yeah, I did and he said I loved wonka and I thought Really? People of different opinions. Wow people of different I have uh A friend that didn't like poor things Film is uh, it's an art subjective. I yeah that one I get That one I get that's not I think I even said that Early on when I saw it's it's not everybody's cup of tea for sure for a lot of reasons. I I don't um I don't agree that I wouldn't recommend it. Um, and especially I I understand why people if they especially if they saw this growing up or when it came out The bigger impact it would have in on the like The in 1994. Yeah, I get it. Um, I I I just think it would do I like I said, I I think there's pieces there It's like going back and watching this is going to be a weird comparison But if you're a tom hanks fan and you grew up with tom hanks You're going to appreciate turner and hooch way more than somebody who doesn't know tom hanks and just watches turner and hooch You'll you're gonna, you know, so people who grew up at this obviously it's gonna They're gonna like it no matter more to them, but there's also a ton of people that like this movie a lot So you guys let us know, uh, if you like this movie if you don't like this movie Yeah, what it is you like about him. Um, and if uh, you think it should be remade with memutes as the lead again Uh, because I do it. Oh easy Yeah, this is not an age-specific character. This guy could be 25. It could be 75 I think the slave would be probably have to be somebody a little younger at minimum noisest age Yeah, a little yeah, or at least could play younger Yeah, and his 30s 40s, maybe Um, but uh, I know memutes and delker I think delker's too good-looking makeup I don't know. I think you So if you're keeping in a slender him down I let him really transform his physique Makes it all the more I think it makes it all the more interesting if he's good-looking If you I just don't know if it would fit the character Well, it made it may not fit the character from the text. He's a good-looking dude. Yeah, I'd say I'd say fafa would be a better, um Because we've seen him slender down and yeah, I mean, I mean, you can't go right If you get an actor that looks like nois that can easily just look Yeah, fafa would be a good So slender like that The few ones that we didn't talk about him, but I thought the females did a good job Um, they had much a little screen time and I thought the like I said the the rape scene could have really been a lot more impactful Both there were two rape scenes. Yeah. Yeah, the other one where he said yeah, you want to join me? Yeah, yeah And that that could have been like Even more disgusting and yeah and just the way he shot Um Anyways, uh, let us know. Uh, we thought of us which we are neck. Well I know our next mammoth film is going to be yeah, we had it too. That's coming out in the next few days Yep, uh, and there will be a watch along of that so you can look out for that When it comes out, but uh, let us know outside of that What should be our next mammoth film? Which would be our next Malayalam film and anything else we need to know down below