 Hello and welcome to the live stream today. We are talking about the new roadcaster duo I've actually got one on my desk right now. By the way, I should say right off the back Thank you to road for sending me this for review Although I've got to be honest as soon as I saw it announced in NAB in In in Las Vegas I already knew that I was going to be getting one because I just could see from the specs that it was going to be the Perfect roadcaster for me, even though the roadcaster pro 2 was also the perfect roadcaster But I'll get into that in a little moment But I've got them all on my desk so you can see them for sort of comparison as to the various different sizes of them Not that one. Let me get to the right scene. I'm starting off so well today, aren't I? Let me try that again Here we go. I've got the roadcaster duo here the streamer x and also the roadcaster pro 2 So what I'm going to do today is I'm going to talk about the different devices and sort of compare them But then I will go through sort of all of the functionality of the roadcaster pro of the roadcaster duo as well But if you are already familiar with the roadcaster range Maybe you are a roadcaster pro 2 user or have read up about that then that certainly this is going to seem very familiar because what they've actually done is just packed all of the same awesome power and In terms of audio processing and audio routing into a smaller form factor and from what I can Make out from my limited time of a few days working with it There isn't really any sacrifice that's been made by reducing that except for obviously with the roadcaster duo We've got two XLR mic inputs and headphone outputs and then with the roadcaster pro 2 We've got four of each of those as well. However, the roadcaster duo Does add in a headphone a headset jack which gives you an additional mic input and also a different additional headphone output Albeit that can't be used sort of controlled separately to the headphone one jack But we'll we'll get into that but certainly as I say there hasn't really been much sacrifice made You know often when you scale things down there are some sacrifices made but it doesn't seem to have been the case in in this case and certainly for the kind of Demographic if you want to put it in personally like that of people that I tend to be talking to who are generally More like people who are using all of this equipment to level up their audio and video in their online Meetings and zoom calls and things like that or maybe sort of solo creators Then the roadcaster duo could just well be the sort of perfect device if you want that sort of and on desk mixer experience As opposed to obviously something like the stream at X which I've already covered which is which is great If you just want to level up your audio and video and still have control of your presentations and things like that So I'll talk more about the differences in a little while. Hello to everyone in the in the chat Let's have a look who is here. Hey Danny Brown podcasts. It's great to see you love my RC P2 But man wish I'd known about the duo was on its way I know it's the thing about it is if you vote if you've only got a couple of mic inputs that you want to bring up Bring in you're not doing like an in-person four-person show then. Yeah, the duo is great I'm thinking that there are going to be people who will be you know Just want the smaller form factor and so we'll maybe you know sell the the the Roadcaster Pro 2 to go To get the smaller one and it's not a downgrade in any respect It's just a smaller form factor in my mind for you know, depending on what you are what you're needing Order the Roadcaster duo will be my first ever device like this Oh, wow, you're gonna be in for a treat then Victor because yeah I remember when I got my Roadcaster Pro 2, which was my first Roadcaster It just kind of blew my mind really and what it enabled me to do and knowing what you do as well Victor Then then yeah, it's good. You're gonna you're gonna love it Hey keely great to see you here Oh, thanks. I'm glad you've I've glad you've liked the the course Danny great to great to hear that Oh, I'll mention that a little bit later, but thanks for that. I'm glad you glad you found it useful So let's start then and talk about a little bit more detail about some of the the differences between these these devices So if I come to the top-down shot here is the sort of comparison of size obviously the Roadcaster Pro 2 Which now suddenly I've had this one on my desk since it arrived And then I've just bought this one back out to to show you although I do keep this one switched on and in view because it looks So pretty But now that I've got this on my desk It suddenly feels like huge compared to the Roadcaster duo and then here is the Streamer X now What we've actually got then in the Roadcaster duo is whereas here We've got six physical physical faders and three virtual virtual faders And I'll go through all this in more detail a bit later on the Roadcaster duo There are four physical faders and three virtual faders instead of the eight smart pads that we've got over here on the Roadcaster duo There are six Smart pads again with multiple pages to be honest with you the smart pads are something that I don't tend to use myself that much I use them for like a music bed on my my podcast so I can fade that in and out But I don't use them for a whole lot more actually at the moment So for me, you know having just six on here and again You've got multiple pages so you can page through and add up to I think up to 64 might be it might need to check that number If it's different on this one actually, but you've got multiple pages So there's plenty of scope there to add different things in and so as I say for me That wasn't a sacrifice coming from eight down to six The actual size of the screen is the same and the interface is all the same the operating system All the firmware I should say is all exactly that the same or well Relatively, you know in terms of the functionality is going to be the same on here One thing that you don't have on the Roadcaster duo that is on the Roadcaster Pro 2 is the big record button So now that is just a software record button and that is in place of the little icon that we've we've got up here To say the there's different show profiles essentially that you can have on the Roadcaster Pro 2 So they've just replaced that icon with the record button, which again doesn't really feel like a sacrifice I tend to be in just one profile anyway So I don't necessarily need that to be you know to indicate which profile I'm in And so yeah having the record button there. It just seems perfectly logical and not a not an issue at all Then you've got the the rotary encoder, which is exactly the same now when I first started using this And I had one potential criticism in my mind that I was thinking about and it was so minor It's it's laughable really but it is that the rotary encoders on the headphone sockets or the headphone outputs on the Roadcaster Pro 2 I've got this little line and basically the it is a it is a fixed travel Encoder so it goes from here at zero and then you can turn it all the way up to here And that is maximum and you can see the little line here to indicate the position of it and at first I noticed that this was missing off this one and what they've done is and there's a really nice Function on the road caster Or the road x there or that I'd first seen on the road x Streamer x which is that as you turn the dial because it doesn't have a screen obviously like the road caster Pro 2 or the the duo then the actual Glowing illumination around the the encoder there that indicates the level so you can see that I've now turned this one down And the illumination is is just you know, whatever it is 25 30% or something like that. So that is actually an indicator of the level And they've got the same thing on here So if I was to turn this one down for example, you'll see how now it's completely completely out the light And as I turn it up it sort of increases that that illumination around the outside So it is a really nice indicator But actually one thing for these is I always like the fact that you can just see easily Exactly the level that it is set to although, you know, you can kind of hear it in your ears Can't you but you may be adjusting this for different people? So at first although I like this function on here I wasn't too sure about still miss but then I suddenly Realized that well actually what they've done is they've taken these buttons and put them on here Which means that these have also got the same push button functionality now at the moment I don't really see that that is doing anything. However It is essentially in there then as a potential function So I'd be interested to see what happens with this in the future because these could in theory, you know Switch between different outputs. I did wonder if it was to do with the headset on the front Which I'll talk about a little bit later Does it switch between those two although it didn't seem to be doing that to me But in any case if that is my only little criticism the lack of a white stash on that that dial there Yeah, that's that says something really doesn't it and what happens then with these rotary encoders is Obviously these ones you go from one side to the other and then that is you know minimum and maximum Whereas what you'll find with ease is obviously they are sort of continuous movement and it's not a one-for-one Correlation so if this is you know here and I turn it all the way around to the other side That's not necessarily going from minimum to maximum in which in theory then obviously means you've got a higher degree of You know higher degree of adjustability if that is even a term So in any case I digress slightly but yeah those dials then are for the headphone outputs And as I say they are the same dials it seems as on here albeit the LED is slightly slightly different The other thing then in terms of you know, what's what's different about the rocusta pro 2 to the duo Obviously, it's a smaller form factor So there is you know less travel on these faders here We've got this this this travel here Which is this much and obviously to get these you know this shorter form factor We haven't got as much travel in these faders, but really that doesn't feel at all like any sacrifice I know if you go into a you know recording studio You'll see the big mixing boards and they've got these massive things because they want a massive faders because they want to have You know really really fine adjustment, but For certainly for what I'm doing I mean the difference in that is is just it's a non-issue whatsoever and you can still clearly see the You know the the level on here. I suppose technically because of the sort of Whatever they call it linear encoder. It's got to be slightly, you know lower resolution I guess is the is the word is that the word Then then on this one, but as I say it's just it feels perfectly natural and these almost feel Like too much travel now So I actually just prefer this this type of fader I do like having physical faders rather than the the dials obviously that we've got on the stream at X But that's a different different A different product and obviously they're trying to keep things compact there But yeah, I actually prefer the the faders on here because it feels like you can just easily You know even just feel where it is have your finger on it and move it the the full range of movement if you need to so That feels perfectly fine the actual Hardware itself all feels exactly the same quality that we've become accustomed to with the brocaster pro 2 that is a high quality obviously Um, so I really like that the the feel of all the buttons is that is you know got exactly the same Tactile feel to them as well the actual smart pads themselves are slightly smaller So they are in fact the same size as the the stream X As opposed to this one, which is I mean it's only fractionally smaller But so as well as having obviously six instead of eight And they're also closer together slightly and and they're smaller So just helps to fit it into that compact form factor And once again, this doesn't feel like a sacrifice in here at all You know these buttons yet. They're great to be able to just know exactly where they are and hit them But I don't think anyone's going to have any trouble Hitting those so once again just getting it all condensed down like that It just feels that feels great So let's talk about then some of the the differences in terms of the the ports and that let's just take a quick Look around at this device a bit better than just the top down shot there There you can see the faders the smart pads that on the front there was the little jack for the headset So this is just on the front Something that the Rokaster Pro 2 doesn't have is this jack and that enables you to plug in a headset So that gives you the obviously the headphones But also if you've got a mic attached, then it will give you another mic input Now that audio going into those headphones. So as an output is also controlled by the By the same dial that we've got for the main headphones. So this one just appear So this will be controlling the audio for your headphones on the back But then also the the headset here. So those are both controlled by that and as I say that was something I wondered if if there is a toggle to sort of adjust the headset relatively from one to the other Like that and it doesn't seem to be that that is the case At least at the moment anyway So let's take a look at the the ports that we've got on the back then And here it is very familiar as I say to the Rokaster Pro 2 really Only difference is instead of those two combo jacks there That you've got on the back that can take either an XLR cable or a quarter inch jack Obviously on the Rokaster Pro 2 we've got four of those But everything else is pretty much the same and obviously the headphones as well there There's just headphones one and two whereas obviously on the Rokaster Pro 2 we've got the three and four as well It does also still have the obviously the The speaker outputs if you use speakers, I personally don't use monitors at all in my In my studio, but there we go. It's still got those and then it does also still have those usb sockets And instantly those combo jacks they are as I say They can take both the XLR cables so they can plug in there But you'll notice the large hole in the middle which enables you to also plug in a quarter inch jack So if you're going to use an instrument or even take two quarter inch jacks in and use that as a as a stereo pair So as well as just coming in as a mono as you would get with a microphone You can actually join two separate ports together and make those a stereo pair Incidentally, I talk about the Rokaster Duo being you know meeting all of my needs in terms of just having one maybe two microphones So that's that's all I ever generally have plugged in I did actually have something where I was using The three usb channels connected to my computer and I was then using a getting a fourth channel out of my computer from the Headphone output from my computer and taking that into the other two on my Rokaster pro 2 ports as a stereo pair So it basically gave me a different channel for ecamm live one for zoom Maybe one for zoom iso and also one for discord But then I would have a stereo pair coming in from the computer So that then I effectively had four channels going in and out of the computer Um, I actually don't need to do that anymore because there is the I'm using the stream deck plus so I can control my system audio From that However, I was interested with these the rotary encoder because I've only ever generally got one set of headphones come in What I'm going to do is I'm going to link up this second Dial here on the the front if I can get my shot right So this is before my headphones I may just use a midi control to actually use that control system audio and then I can still have it coming in on the same fader as my ecamm live and I'll talk about my setup of in a moment But then I could just use that to adjust my literally just adjust my system audio. That's being fed out to that So, yeah, that is the the overall view of it the USB sockets that we've got on the back are again just the same as on the Rokaster pro 2 So we've got power there And then you've got the sd card that you can or micro sd that you can record to then there is the ethernet for high speed firmware updates and then you've got those two usb sockets and just as with the Rokaster pro 2 The usb one actually has two separate channels. So either the main main stereo main multi-track Or the chat channel and then the second one there is just called Rokaster in this case Rokaster duo secondary So that gives you three usb channels you could have one plugged into one computer The second one plugged into a second computer. You could plug it into a separate device Maybe a mobile phone or a ipad or something like that. You can also use these for External storage if you want to record to an external ssd. You can also use the usb for that I personally use these both into my computer So the same computer that is and to give me these three separate channels, which I'll walk through in in a moment Let me just check up on some of these comments before I go any further Use a highl pr40 mic with a first of all, sorry. Hi. Hi, Jamie. Great to see you here With a vocaster 2 interface. What sound or control advantage would I get from moving to one of these? um, I've not actually used the vocaster to interface one thing that Really sold me on the Rokaster pro 2 and also the Rokaster duo and also now The stream x although the Rokaster duo is certainly the one that I'm saying is you know is the device for me as it were I do love the stream at x and having the the video capability built into it as well I've done other videos about about that one But for the Rokaster duo what as I say what what sells it to me is the fact that you've got these multiple usb channels And usually when you're using an interface to take your xlr into Into a computer generally it's just a single You know usb and it shows up as a single source So that is you know, you might still have an output separately for your your monitors But you're taking an xlr mic in Through this device and then it's showing up on your computer as an input And that's what a lot of these do like the same like the what's it called the the scarlet and so on They're all that kind of thing The thing that really sells me on the Rokaster duo and the Rokaster pro 2 Is this audio routing and the fact that we have got multiple separate usb channels So it means that you can do things like Have multiple mix minus channels and I'll get on to what that is in the moment And it's it's it's the audio routing for me is the massive massively powerful thing Then again, there is also the things like the you know the smart pads that you can use to apply Effects you can use them to You know have music on the device itself and play those in i'm not sure whether the vocaster 2 does that I think it's more of just an audio interface So there is that whole side of stuff with the Rokaster As well and it's and it's dealing with multiple inputs I don't know if the vocaster 2 if that has is that 2 because it's got 2 mic inputs So maybe that's the case But yeah, this is it's it's all about the power of the audio routing and then again There is the onboard processing. So it's the you know the preamps and all of that sort of stuff I don't know personally what the vocaster did What the Vocaster 2 can do in terms of you know adding compression dsing Noise gates and all of that kind of stuff But I'll I'll go into that a little bit later in terms of the capabilities of the Rokaster duo So maybe that will become a little bit more more clear Turn the encoder to 11. I know well, that's it with a continuous encoder now. Where do we how do we know where 11 is? Oh, no, what are we gonna do? So Let's just come down here You could use a white pen to make a line. I know the trouble it is though. That's the the issue is it's not a It's a it's not a fixed travel. So this this minor thing which is a non-issue Which I spend too much time on but the the the dial is is is not sort of zero to full like that It's a continuous thing. So Yeah, you wouldn't technically know where that point was and it also one it doesn't correlate exactly so You know one turn on you know minimum to maximum might well be four turns of the dial So anyway, it's it really is a non-issue I'm sure it's there because there's some other functionality that it does unlock. Maybe if not now a little bit later Let me see where we are Hey, james, great to see you here. Thank you very much um I think a lot of people are going to do that james to be honest because um the rocaster pro 2 is amazing But if you're only using two of the the sockets, there is something nice about the smaller form factor And you know if you've got the rocaster pro 2 You're not you're not gaining anything necessarily by going to the rocaster duo It's not like one of these things like oh, I'm missing out if I don't upgrade But a lot of people value their desk space don't they and having something in a smaller compact form factor I also find that with some of the people that I'm talking to you know in coaching clients and things like that Um, sometimes they just feel like the rocaster pro 2 is too much for them because not cost wise But in terms of just the the capabilities or that you know the size of it on their desk Because if they're doing, you know virtual presentations into zoom or something like that, maybe they're using the mic the usb one Chat and main to do the ecam and zoom teams thing And they're only using three of the faders sometimes, you know the rocaster pro 2 may look a little bit like Overkill to them whereas the rocaster duo as we'll see when I go through my yet my setup of it Um, it's just kind of it's it's just perfect I can't describe how much this feels like some when a company makes a product that you feel like they've made this for me It's amazing. Anyway, I won't I won't go too overboard on it Does the max volume go to 11? Well, there we go. We're not we will never should we will never know what it's actually going to Um, the rocaster pro 2 is that power button. I find a lot more fiddly than the traditional on off switch Yeah, to be honest, I get that there is so the power button on the back and the power button on the rocaster duo Is the same power button as on the rocaster pro 2. So it's a little button on the back. Maybe I can just show you this Uh, so this is the row. Oh, by the way By the way, uh, I have mine mounted the the rocaster duo has the visa mount on the back Um, so the rocaster pro 2 has both a visa mount and a quarter 20 on the back So that you can mount it either on a on a anything with a visa mount just like this and I'll drop the link to this in the in the chat Or you can mount it to you know a stand with just a quarter 20 in the middle The streamer x has the quarter 20, but not the visa mount. Obviously a visa mount is bigger bigger than the device So it would be that would be overkill. Um, but the it does have the the quarter 20 in the middle Interestingly, the rocaster duo only has the visa mount. So it doesn't have the quarter 20 single slot in the middle So I'm not sure quite why that was it's not something I used I always would have preferred to use the visa mount anyway But that's just something to note if you are, you know, it wouldn't just fit directly on the top of a mic stand for example Um, but but anyway, um, uh, where was I? Oh, yeah, the power switch So the power switch is this little button on the back. Um, and it is it a little bit fiddly I suppose it could be um, if you uh, you sort of have to press it in rather than just a clunk click sort of, uh, switch The reason I've never really found that to be a particular issue is because mine's never off Actually, I just leave it on my desk. It's just on on all the time. Um, so that it's the same with everything in my Everything in my my studio I just have it so that I basically just flick the lights on and then I'm ready to record and reduce the friction But yeah, I know that that's been something that few people have talked about where It's uh, it's it's not exactly hard to find though But um, yeah, you have to sort of just give it a double click to switch it off and then power off like that But as I say, it's uh, I I've I've know people have mentioned that before but not something that I've I've found but the processing as you say the processing is made editing a lot easier With just some basic post production as far as audio quality goes and that comes back to that thing about the The difference between this and potentially The the vocaster too. I'm not sure what sort of onboard processing they've got And also the just the you know, what is the actual quality of the the processing that it can do? um Biggie loves over kills and that is clearly evident by your setup, which you know, I I absolutely love And the the nubbins. Oh, yes, so that will be that's the on off button that he's referring to there So first of all, uh, great to see you here. Thanks for stopping by lost in translation podcast Um, so let's go through then some of the the functionality of of the vocaster duo And as I say if you're familiar with the vocaster pro 2 then none of this is going to come as a particular sort of surprise to you It's we've got all of the same onboard processing But I will just go through and talk about some of it and talk about a couple of the the differences as well So let me try and I'll tell you what I'm going to do a manual zoom here I should have set up a separate scene for this but there we go Let's get the vocaster duo a little bit more uh front and center Uh, so as I say the interface looks um, uh, very familiar the well It's exactly the same in terms of the the the screen here When it comes to connecting uh mics and so on As I say you've got the no trick combo jacks at the back there. So you can bring in a microphone In terms of the the physical fade is what I've used these for is My main thing is audio routing of my audio for e-cam live, which is my live production software That's what I'm using to create this video or this live stream It's also what I use to create my videos Be it on youtube or for my courses and so on But e-cam live also goes into zoom So I just level up all of my zoom calls and things like that with Whether it's on zoom or teams online meetings or webinars I do that all with the e-cam live as well because e-cam live has a virtual camera feature That allows you to take it into zoom So that instead of just being another little box You can have all of the same all audio and video quality that you've got from your You know live videos Have that going into zoom and when you combine that with presentation software like keynote or PowerPoint you can combine that all together and it just gives a much more sort of seamless Into into zoom anyway, I'm going off on a tangent here But the point about this is I want to be able to control e-cam live And you've got various different audio components within there You can play music you can even bring interview guests in e-cam live And then have them come into Zoom so if you're doing something where you've got like a guest speaker or something You want to bring them into your production and then take that into zoom so you've got zoom participants So I use those two simultaneously So this is my e-cam live channel. This is my mic channel Then I've got my at the moment discord. So discord is my my backstage members are all in there right now All all one of them today actually is just jeff my my timekeeper always reminds me to start Otherwise, I'll just waffle on So that is discord and then here I've got my zoom channel now. Sometimes I'll do Events where there is zoom running for the participants, but then I'll have speakers using zoom iso So that basically basically runs kind of like a separate instance Of zoom almost and so I'll have that on this channel So having these four channels, these are the ones that you know typically I would have used on the rocaster pro 2 these are the ones that I'm sort of actively adjusting You know any and any given time Excuse me And although we'll look into the advanced audio routing later on where you can send certain Channels, you know into certain other channels or not as the case may be I actually do this if I want to just switch something off from the You know a particular channel I use these buttons down at the bottom And I'm kind of using them probably not not necessarily the way that they are intended So down at the bottom, you've got the listen button and the mute button Listen means that you as the host plugged into the headphone socket one or now the headset socket at the front We'll hear that particular channel And then the mute button is to mute that particular channel from the from the stream from the from the mix Well, what I do is I kind of just listen to all of the channels and then I Actively on the fly sort of mute the ones that I don't want to go into the main mix So right now you are hearing I'm hearing all of these obviously But because I've muted these two It means that all you're hearing is anything that comes through ecum live You're hearing my microphone, but you're not hearing the discord back channel And then you're also not hearing this usb 2 so that's how I do that And now I find that that is just easier for me than to toggle these on and off You know actively rather than going in and manually adjusting the the routing table Which we'll look at a little bit later, but anyway, I digress slightly So these are the four physical faders and there are then three Virtual faders and the way that you access those is by tapping on the rotary encoder over here And then you've got the same mute and listen buttons there But then you can just adjust the level of that one Tap to go to the next And you can adjust the level of that one up and down Tap again, and then you can get to that third one You can also instead of using the rotary encoder You can just tap on any one of those at any time to get into that Now when it comes to what you can add to these in exactly the same way as on the ROCUSTER Pro 2 You can organize what goes where these aren't fixed like in the like in a lot of other devices and certainly in the ROCUSTER Pro 1 There were dedicated channels on dedicated faders One of the beauties and one of the things I loved about the ROCUSTER Pro 2 Or what was introduced with the ROCUSTER Pro 2 was the fact that these are all flexible You can assign whatever you want to each particular channel or to each particular fader I should say So if you click on the settings and you go to faders here You can see we've got four physical faders and we've got three virtual faders And if I want to have the the headset for example, if I want that over here I just drag and drop it you can just rearrange these However, it makes sense and that's really great if you are you know on the ROCUSTER Pro 1 for example The first four faders were four mics Well, if you've only got one in then it made those, you know Second the other three kind of redundant Whereas this does allow you to be flexible and add what you want where One difference though with the ROCUSTER Duo versus the ROCUSTER Pro 2 And this is just something to be aware of is Although we have these different inputs. So we've got the mic input one and two We've also got the USB one two and three technically or the main chat the chat and the the secondary We've got the the smart pads as we had before and the bluetooth And then now we've got this additional one of the headset But what actually is going on here is we've technically got eight potential Things that you might want to add to a fader, but there are only seven faders. So I don't necessarily think that that's an issue for me Well, it isn't an issue for me But it's just something to be aware of if I tap on any one of these are faders You can see that there are eight to choose from but there are only seven slots So you've got input one input two headset Bluetooth USB one and the two as I've said and the sound pads there So I did wonder why they didn't make it so that we've maybe instead of you know got four physical and four virtual And it may be just down to the space available on the screen because although this the screen is exactly the same size In terms of the the rocaster pro 2 We've got these buttons down the side which indicate what is on the smart pads And if you look at the rocaster pro 2 These are taking up less sort of horizontal space Because there are eight of the buttons and because they're square They're smaller They're displayed smaller on the screen Because obviously there are fewer of them if I can just bring this over so you can see are we going to get these all in Let's try there we go So those are the difference in the buttons So because you've got a stack of four here instead of a stack of three It means that because they're square they're taking up less space that way So it means you've got less horizontal space than to potentially put in the faders I did wonder though if they could you know potentially have an additional one so that you've got four things Or it may be down to just the the the way that the the firmware is the software that's actually running it If that is a limitation of that in terms of the there are only physically three Virtual things programmed into it if that makes it might make sense But anyway, you know, I don't think that this is a it's certainly not an issue for me because I will be just deciding You know, which one of these uh, which ones I want to have on there I probably I've got the headset on there at the moment so that I can there just sort of show it that this is a second fader Oh, sorry an additional fader. You've got the microphone one the microphone two. Let's go back to this view. In fact You've got uh, let's go into here So microphone one microphone two or I should say input one input two You've still got that option to combine those two if you had a stereo pair coming in Um, then you just simply click on I won't do it right now because I'm using it But if you were to click on that stereo button, it would basically link those two together And then assign them to a single fader so that you've got one fader controlling a stereo pair coming in But then you do have the the headset there So I've kind of activated that to just show that there is a literally a third channel for the headset Um, and then obviously we've got these other ones. So likely I won't probably be using a headset So it's not an issue I will ultimately have the bluetooth back on that slot and then I'll have input one and two for two microphones Now in addition to the XLR mics that we can use you can pair this with the road wireless me or the road wireless go to as well One thing to note about that is whilst the headset can be used in addition to these two ports The way the wireless mic works is it's basically taking one of these channels So you can't essentially have like two XLR mics coming in at the moment Can't have two XLR mics coming in and then also have a a wireless mic because if I go into the mic settings So if I just come out of this And just tap on this microphone here. So this is mic two and you're essentially choosing what kind of mic So if it was something plugged into the back, you could have an instrument plugged in you could have a line in Or you could have, you know, one of these presets for the range of Of mics from from road They've also obviously got the the short sm7b as they had on the road caster pro 2 But you can from here choose the road wireless mic And so when you do that, there is just a button here to pair the device and you can pair it with the road wireless But it's just just to note that if you're pairing a wireless device, then you are essentially sort of It's in place of one of those one of those jacks on the back or one of those no trick combo jacks at sockets on the back Um, that's perfect for me. What I'll be doing with this is I'll be using a The wired mic and then I'll also use the the wireless mic more for some of the amazon stuff Which I'll be getting back into Where I don't want to have a big microphone in front. Um So yeah, and then there's obviously as I say the the headset input So that is the the inputs and the the things that you can add to the the the faders I'll just go through some of the audio routing and and specifically why this is Why this is a great device if you are using it for things like your zoom calls And if you're using especially especially if I can get my words out If you're using, you know, something like ecamm live or maybe obs To, you know, add something to your your presentations and you want to root all your audio through this Or you're doing a live stream with a backstage and you want to have that level of control over it Um, then it's in here. So if I go to outputs, um, and then we've got this routing section in here And here what you can do is you can control what to What to what what's going to go where so if I look at the usb one Um, this is the key thing for me is just making sure that mix minus is on and just to clarify again what mix minus is Um, the roadcaster duo or the pro or even the streamer x they're essentially acting as audio hubs really And it's not just an input device. It's an audio hub So you're getting all of the audio coming in through various different channels And then it's going out through certain channels now some Some channels are just purely input like the mic channel obviously is just an input channel Some are just purely outputs. So namely the headphones and some are both input and output channels Like the usb and the bluetooth and that means that Audio can come down that particular line, but it can go back out that particular route as well Um, and what that can do is if you are on a zoom call, for example Then your participants will be speaking That the audio from them will be coming into your roadcaster And you will hear it But then their audio will go straight back out to them again And then they'll hear themself back and this is known as slap back more commonly echo Or less accurately but more commonly echo And and so they will be saying your participants would say we can hear echo Whereas the point about this is you wouldn't be able to hear it You wouldn't hear what they're hearing because you're just hearing them once because it comes in Into your ears and then that's it, but they're hearing this kind of return feed So mix minus removes anything that's coming in from that channel From the return feed back through that channel So anything coming from the input of that channel is not going to be sent back to the output and that eliminates this thing of slapback It would be exactly the same in ecum if you were doing an interview for example, and you were using ecum lives interview mode The audio from the interview guest is coming into ecum. It's then coming into the roadcaster And you're hearing it and it's going into the mix But it's also feeding back into ecum as well and that would be captured in the recording So you need to have mix minus on for that And then again, you know, same with the discord back channel that I've got going on here So I just have mix minus on on all of those and actually generally I would say that It's it's almost better to just have it on because I haven't really found any instance where having it on will negatively affect something It's one of those things if you've got it on then you'll be glad that it's on and if you haven't then You you you'll pay the price In terms of quality somewhere along the line So I just do toggle that one on for all of those channels same with bluetooth by the way There are two ways that you can use the roadcaster over bluetooth You can either use it to just Basically pair it with a set of bluetooth speakers And so the speakers then become the monitors as well as obviously having the speaker Output in the back So you've got wired speaker output just there to left and right But you can just pair this with a set of bluetooth speakers and use that for your External monitoring But the other way of using bluetooth and probably you know the more common and intended purpose of this is to actually just pair it with your mobile device Phone or tablet or whatever and then it basically becomes You know like a bluetooth headset almost although albeit the mother of all bluetooth headsets And it means that you're going to get the audio from anyone who's calling in like if you've got a call in show I was talking to someone just two days ago Who has people calling in to a show that they do So they could call in on the phone, but this then is capturing the audio from the from the the mobile But then also you're sending all of your high quality audio from the roadcaster back over bluetooth And that's what they're hearing on their end The other thing about doing that by the way is all of the processing that we'll look at later You can apply that to all of the channels So it means that you can you know potentially be tweaking the audio of your guests And albeit there is a little bit more that goes into tweaking Guest audio or sorry any of the audio things in terms of the onboard processing And it's not something necessarily that would be a global sort of catchall setting But you could have something that is an initial setting that would you know help clear up a number of things But we'll we'll talk about that a little bit later So that is the the mix minus option in any case But what they added in a relatively recent firmware update or maybe it wasn't these now I can't remember But anyway, they added this custom routine And what that allows you to do is choose For every one of these channels if I just go back out of here a minute here are the different channels We've got the headphone one and two We've got the and by the way the headphone one is also as I say the headset at the front So it's going to be the same for both of those whether that will get split out at some point in the future I'm not sure into you know potentially having the headset to be used independently of the The the channel one there. I'm not sure the headphone one. I'm not sure But headphones one and two then you've got the monitors So that would be the speakers on the back there. Um, or I get I was going to say I guess the bluetooth, but the bluetooth is covered down here. So Forget that that is the monitors on the back there Then you've got the recording because obviously this is a recording device as well I don't actually use it That much for recording. I do record my I do capture the audio from my podcast on it Although I you know record my podcast in ecum live But then I only really extract my track out from that because Ecum is capturing the audio from my guest in interview mode So I don't use this, you know as a as the original intention of the roadcaster pro 2 You know for a an actual hardware recording device It has got some great capabilities there. So nevertheless, you can decide what goes into your recording So just as I'm excluding discord right now from this You could be recording a live podcast With a discord backstage area for you know people to ask questions and things and that not go through into the recording Then we've got bluetooth usb 1 usb chat and the usb 2 So just going back into the bluetooth then as well as just either having the main mix or the mix minus as I've already talked about There is this custom mix here And this shows you all of the different channels that are coming in And then this is choosing what is going specifically out to that bluetooth channel So if as I say I want to just exclude the discord from that particular channel I can just come in here and tap on that and just turn it down. So now you can see I've turned down the discord So that's not going through into the bluetooth mix If you are doing this kind of rooting you would also want to make sure you're excluding the the original in there Although actually it looks like let me just have a double check of this See if it's in there. So yeah with the the bluetooth Or with one of the let me come back to this one. Welcome to this one I'll try that again With the this custom mix if you want to have mix minus you basically just have to make sure that whatever channel you're in So at the moment i'm on the usb 2 channel now I would just need to make sure that I actually reduce the usb 2 from that So that's simulating mix minus effectively it's removing usb 2 from that usb 2 channel Now at the moment what happens is when I adjust the fader for this usb 2 channel You'll see how it is also moving the relative level here So this little green bar is what is it's maybe a little bit tricky to see This little lower bar here is what i've set the level to going down to this specific channel But then because I can adjust the the the sort of global level here It is also adjusting that one you can detach that completely By pressing that button here. So it's got this little link icon. And so that I've just seen You can you can adjust that separately. So now when I adjust the fader this one is fixed You can also just actually turn off that channel altogether. So actually that's probably a more accurate view of mix minus Just toggle it off altogether So that's the the point there is you can control custom mixes to custom to each individual channel And they can either be still attached to the fader So you might want to just bring the volume down potentially on a particular channel But still have it that if in the main mix you are moving this up and down It is still also adjusting the the mix in there as well Or you can have it just you know, so it's completely detached one thing that To be aware of with that and one reason why I don't tend to use this so much And why I prefer just to sort of manually do these things is you would have to be a little bit conscious of You know where all these levels are set. So if you're setting individual levels to each individual channel Just note that what you're seeing on the the fader here Is is just the sort of the the master if you like And it could be that if you've set the volume relatively on a channel lower Then you might move this down thinking that there is still some volume there But in actual fact on that other channel, it is already down to zero. So Yeah, I don't know how you how you'd ever get around that whether that could show like a You know a maximum a minimum on the these faders that may well just get confusing But yeah, just just to be aware that if you do go and change settings within here for the for the outputs and for the the rooting And to answer your question doc What is the difference between rooting and routing? Rooting is what we say in the uk and routing is what probably the rest of the world says but yeah routing or rooting So so yeah, that is that that is the power of this for me though is the fact that I can have these three mix minus channels, but then Then also have the you know the the system audio and everything like that coming in at the moment I'm doing that with with the same channel as ecam because ecam can handle system audio So I can have it so that if I'm doing anything in ecam that Requires system audio it is capturing that there But as I say, I'm going to go through the process of Setting up this using midi to actually control that as well to give me that extra level Um A few other things let me just go through these settings just to sort of cover off what is going on in there We've got the the faders there. So I've already covered off that one The outputs is where you're going to change the rooting or routing a few things with the monitor If you are using the external speakers What it will do is if you have got your mic sort of live So if your mic is mic volume is up Then it's going to do this by default Auto mute the monitor output So if you've got speakers plugged in and then you're wondering you're on a zoom calling You're wondering why you can't hear yourself It's likely this this setting which is that It's if your mic's live It's not going to come through because what you don't want in a quality audio device is the Is the audio from your speakers feeding back into your mic It's also got the same for bluetooth. So if you have got a bluetooth Output as well. I mentioned that you can use bluetooth as speakers Then you can then you can add that there as well And then fixed output level will just set the output To line level. So that's if you want to take this out into something else Then rather than having this dial. So let me just come out to the front I've talked about this rotary encoder and if you select one of these it's for Adjusting the the level on this But if you haven't got one of those selected It's actually for adjusting the monitor level and that is indicated here So this little dial at the top that indicates the level of the The the the monitors the audio the speakers that you can plug into the back And you can see it's turning around there from maximum to minimum But at the moment it's got a little cross through the middle of it and that's because There's nothing plugged into it first of all, but my mic is live. So if I was to move that down Then if my mic went down to zero, I've probably got another mic up here somewhere But if any mics in the room were down to zero, then that would that would turn to green I think so to adjust that level Anyway, so that is the the output for the monitor You've also got the headphones you can choose the type of headphones whether they're Any monitors like this or high sensitive high sensitivity headphones like this rather or something like the road nth 100 So a different type of my headphone there Just still continuing through here The listen button now mentioned before about how I use these listen buttons Where I technically I'm just listening to everything. There are a couple of options here So you can either have this pre fader or post fader. So After fader means when you are using this listen It is actually applying this, you know, whatever you've got on the the fader here to what you're hearing You can also set that to pre fader Which means that it would just come through at unity i.e. whatever's coming in is what is going to go out to you So that's what the the pre fader is in there multi-track This is for if you when you are recording obviously we've got multiple different channels here So when you are actually recording or usb you'll come to that if you are recording You can choose whether you want to have it off in which case when you hit the record button on the roadcaster You're just going to get a you know a single track of all of these all of these different A single file of all of these different tracks together So you're just getting the combined thing of the the final production if essentially However, you can also record pre fader and post fader now if you record pre fader That is going to record all of the the audio tracks Exactly as they come in without any of the adjustments that you've made So if you're going to take all of this audio and you're going to do post processing and take it into a separate You know app that you're going to use to to apply different processing and things like that Then likely you would want the pre fader and then you've got all of the initial sort of raw tracks to to work with You can also toggle on here bypass processing so this pre fader is going to Basically bypass the the fade level so the the the volumes that you've got them all adjusted to But you can also use this bypass processing to also exclude anything like the You know the noise gate the compressor and all that kind of stuff which we'll look at in a while as well So you can exclude all of those so that literally you do just get the raw signals and multiple different tracks of all of those different things or if you want to have the tracks with You know the levels all set as you've got them set to and bypassing and with the processing Then you would just select a post fader and so then that would that would just come in at those likely You know pre fader is going to be most common if you are recording multiple tracks You will still also get a single track that has got you know everything applied And you know a final output as well But likely pre fader is the the most common one that you'd want to use there and Depending on what you're going to do I would say that you know even if you want to sort of restructure the the The podcast or whatever it is you're recording after the fact you know in some other software Probably the leaving the processing on is is what most people would do just because they're on board processing You're so great on here that you would want to set it on here and then not have to go through that whole process Again on on something else But anyway, you've also then got the same kind of thing for the usb so The roadcaster has the ability to send multiple tracks to the computer So if you are using some sort of software Like adobe audition or something like that you can have it so that it is feeding in All of the individual tracks to that software And so if that's the case then you would want to have either Pre fader or post fader just as we've talked about in the last Last one with the recording you can do the same thing for what's being passed over usb Pre fader is just going to send in all of those raw signals from the different channels that you've got And then the post fader obviously is going to have that those different levels assigned to them that you've you've assigned on the on the mixer itself For the vast majority of people though using this You'd want to make sure that that is actually off and in the roadcaster pro 2 I think the default was it had got the multitrack selected on one of these Whereas I noted that on the roadcaster duo when when it was switched on out of the box sort of thing Then the multitrack was off which actually makes more sense because the majority of people you're probably Yeah, you know not using the multitrack feature You're likely to be wanting to just take the audio from the roadcaster into zoom into ecamm into You know your content creation software or whatever it is And so and so there Yeah, the having the multitrack off is is useful. I think people who are audio more audio pros In terms of using the software and some sort of door a digital audio workstation For example, they will, you know, obviously be more known to go in and do this But I think that a lot of just general consumers wouldn't necessarily know if this was on by default And it can actually cause issues If you have got a piece of software that's looking for a stereo input And then it is actually getting these multiple tracks It can cause some confusion with certain pieces of software that are just not built up not built to accept that So along a long way of saying If you're just using this as as the way that i'm talking about here Then just double check that the usb is off and you can actually see this because in your computer when you've got your usb One cable connected out of the back here. You'll see that there are two channels. There is the usb of the roadcaster duo main and roadcaster duo Chat, but actually you'll see in brackets It says after roadcaster duo main it'll have in brackets stereo Whereas if this is set to one of these it will have a multitrack after it So that's how you kind of know that you're in the right right setting there Just coming back out of this then there is also a processing I'll talk about processing a little bit later, but this processing is actually for the overall mix So you have what's called the master compiler that is adding Essentially, it's kind of like a compressor really and we'll talk about that a little bit later But this is adding it to the whole mix. So what you're adjusting here is is adding something to You know the whole whole mix. You've also got an output delay here So you can delay the audio going out to your your live streaming or video capturing software And so that is on the the outputs. I will just go into this quickly as well The brightness obviously that is the brightness of these these buttons And you can adjust the brightness of like how bright they are when they're on versus when they are off Nothing much more to say about that the metering you may be interested in the default here If I go to default metering, which is obviously the default what you'll see is when you look at the the The screen here you can see that there's no no physical numbers on here It just shows you the sort of position of those those faders Whereas if you go back into here display and metering you can choose this To be a broadcast metering and what that's going to display then is it's got the dbfs decibel full scale Scale actually on here. So you can see the the physical numbers and it gives you a slightly higher number of Sort of marks on there to sort of see the grading of exactly where you are on that on that scale So I prefer that one. I do explain all about the dbfs Desperate full scale in the rocaster pro 2 masterclass which needs to be renamed now because really it also encompasses the rocaster duo I'll talk about that a little bit later, but all the same stuff is covered in this course in terms of In terms of just you know the functionality and how to use it. It's essentially a mini rocaster pro 2 I did wonder why they dropped the pro from the name of this actually I mean, it could also have been it's probably just because of the length of it It could really have been the rocaster pro mini rocaster pro duo I know it would become a bit of a mouthful, but it really is the same level of pro device in my mind Just for people who don't need four mics So it's don't be fooled by the fact that this doesn't have the word pro in it It's almost the rocaster pro mini, but yeah, it wouldn't really wouldn't really fit in that space, would it? Anyway, let's just go back to some of these. I will just go through the final few things in here You have got haptics So you can have it so that when you tap on the thing you get a haptic feedback It's got like a little thing that will vibrate in there The default I think is haptic feedback always on so as you're tapping you're kind of like feeling the taps underneath you There is haptic feedback on hold So that might be and if you don't want to have it all the time But just when you need to do something where you press and hold for example Then you can have that I personally just have the haptic feedback off on the screen Incidentally, the screen is gorgeous. It's the same one as we've got in the rocaster pro 2 I think we've become accustomed to you know, high quality Screens, you know our phones and so on but it's amazing how many consumer devices you get that have got some sort of screen in it And the screen is still terrible. So Yeah, nice to see a high quality screen in there The show now, this is the thing that I mentioned about I think I called it a show profile But they're just called shows. I think but this is where you can create if you've got a different setup with different routing So maybe you're using this for your your podcast, but you also use it for Your zoom calls for your creating your videos Obviously, we've got this organization here that we can put whatever channels we want where Well, you can create multiple different versions of this So you could have your podcast setup that's got two mics your sound pads and so on Then you might have another one that is for your zoom calls That's got like I've got the three usb channels and your mic there might be another use case you've got for it So you can create multiple different things and those are all in your shows I've just got one because I tend to just do this The single setup works fine for me for all that I'm doing But you can just come in here and create a new show and then go ahead and do all the setup as you want And by the way, I just in you know mic setups and all of that kind of stuff as well And then you can come in here and switch between them This is also where you manage the recordings Although you can get to that from the front screen. So that is the show and then within the system You've got things like Attaction to your network the bluetooth setup now when you are setting up for a bluetooth device If you want to pair a set of bluetooth speakers, you'll come into bluetooth And you'll click on this search for audio devices But if you want to compare it with your phone to be, you know a phone or iPad or whatever it is and you want it to be a bluetooth Essentially this mother-of-all bluetooth headsets Then you don't actually press this button you want to go into your device itself And then you'll search in there So I think some people come into the bluetooth thinking that I want to search for my phone in here But just know that that's that's for that's for pairing with speakers Instead go into your phone and do the search in there And then you'll see that the it shows up as rocaster duo So that's those two different ways I mentioned of using the bluetooth Then you've got date and time obviously that you can set language And then in information you're going to see device information is going to show you your serial number and so on Check for updates and then there's also analytics here where you can choose to share your usage statistics Anonymous, I mean you're not putting personal data on here It's just showing how you're using it and then the resource statistics share resource usage and process Utilization reports So I would always share these things. I mean we want to make these devices better. You're not storing You can't store credit card information on here. So you're not sharing anything personal and it's just all going to help then with Presumably, they'll be they'll be analyzing this to work to make it better. And then there is the check for updates button there as well So that is the overall settings. I will we'll just run through some of the the onboard processing Let's come back to the questions though. I'll just see if I've missed anything because I have been rattling on for quite some time Where are we Just received Just received mine today a bit disappointed by the lack of virtual output. You only have two I would like to separate software to dedicated channel With dedicated faders chat music browser games Yeah, so there there is the three usb channels But it doesn't have like on board. You know, it doesn't have a separate software to then, you know, split that further on the on the computer You're right. There is, you know, other software you can do with that. Incidentally, I am testing at the moment the the beta of the Rhodes unify software to use with the stream stream at x I'm liking what I'm seeing so far with that but I'll make a separate video All about that because that is specifically for the stream at x but the thoughts did come to me Of I wonder if this is something that could at some point at the moment It works with the stream at x that could just work with the the rocaster pro pro 2 Or at least it can be used to control the stream at x as well But technically now i'm even just talking Technically the road unify software Hmm, I'll I'll have to get back to you on this technically the road unify software because you could take an input from the the rocaster pro 2 Then you could apply. Yeah, you could probably use unify So which up until now has been pc only but the the beta of it I've got a copy of that and I literally just yesterday And I've obviously first thing I did install it dive into it. So, um, yeah, that's looking really really great So probably that we'll be able to use with this. I was only really testing it with stream at x but I'll I'll get back to you on that But yeah, probably unify will be the way that you can do that So then you've got an extra level on the computer itself But as it is the yeah, you've got three usb channels that you can assign to different things But you've got four there. So obviously there's only only three So thank you the pod mic is It's sounding nice always found original a bit harsh and top mid heavy custom preset or pod mic preset on the duo I'll go through that actually the the preset is Is the pod mic, but then I've gone through and made some adjustments as well And that's the beauty of the rocaster pro 2 and rocaster duo and the stream rex is that on board processing So you can really sort of tweak it Hey parker great to see you here Slut back sounds like it should be a metal band Oh, that's great doc it is I know you've you've been busy traveling as well. So And the island folks were always uh, yeah takes a while to get through to Hawaii Um, I think I've covered the the difference between rooting and routing They may they may have multiple reasons at multiple definitions as well Uh, the custom rooting was a great update ability to mute on mute sounds and use multi inputs And then include in the recording offered awesome additions to podcasting. Yeah So that that advanced audio rooting which as I say was a later update to be able to specifically choose What's going exactly and at what level to to which is is great That's sorry. I've just got a voice a voice from the from the the background there A router is indeed for for woodwork. So that is the the one place where the same spelling in the uk will use a router Which is for yeah milling milling out wood for the anyway and and also The the router as in a network router. We call those routers as opposed to routers in the uk generally Anyway, um, this is very much pause and putts. Hello. Great to see you here Um, I love how road streamlined roadcaster pro 2 that really is what it feels like I mean, obviously if you need force for mic inputs, then the roadcaster pro 2 all the way But that is exactly what it feels like to me. It feels like it's been streamlined And as I said at the beginning it feels like they've streamlined it for me for exactly what I would use it for But yeah, that is exactly what they've done Um question from jamie using ecamm interview feature I regularly produce a show with both a remote interviewer and a remote guest Will I have audio processing control of them both on the duo? You produce a show with a remote interviewer and a remote guest if they're coming in as a On on ecamm and they they're coming in over ecamm live and therefore they're coming into ecamm live as a You know both into ecamm ecamm is then feeding into the roadcaster as a single channel ecamm at the moment doesn't give you the option to split that out into You know multi-track outputs. I know that is a feature request that people have You know often asked for for ecamm to be able to give multi, you know Give you a multi-track output essentially But at the moment you don't so what that means is that those two guests are coming into ecamm And then they're coming in as one into the roadcaster so you could apply some sort of um, you know Adjustment to that one thing that you may want to do is like a noise gate For example, you could apply that although just be careful of that if you've got other audio coming through ecamm But if you've only got the guests and they've got some You know background noise or whatever that's coming in you could technically apply something like that But yeah, if you've got multiple guests in ecamm then any processing you apply will apply to all of those So not necessarily ideal for that particular use case Uh, yes Hey, Danny. Great to see you again. Um Let me have a look. Um Yes reading the manual is a lot to a lot quicker to be honest doc I mean the thing is it's exactly the same as as the the roadcaster pro 2 so um, yeah And by the way that thing about manual reading the first thing I do when I'm planning a course is just read Read the manual of the device and that usually gives you a pretty good framework of the course Let me see where we're up to I noticed you mentioned compatibility with wireless go 2 is that because it's not compatible with the wireless go Yeah, as I understand it the wireless go, um The original wireless go is not compatible. It requires they made some change in terms of I don't know the receiver the the transmitter the technology I'm not sure exactly But as I understand it it is compatible with the road wireless go 2 and the new road wireless me as well And incidentally the difference between the road wireless me and the road wireless go Is as apart from the road wireless go 2 being that more slightly more expensive I forget how much the price of the noise now But that has on board recording. Where's the road wireless me? It doesn't have the on board recording. Um, although by all accounts, they've Uh, I guess streamlined is the word or automated some of the the on board processing So I think that the road wireless me is better for people who, you know I'm just going to take it out and they don't need to do any tweaking and as I say It doesn't have that on board recording But certainly for, you know a studio use case then the the recording is you know It's going to be recording on the the device anyway But yeah, I don't think it works with the road wireless go original at work road wireless go Um what in ear monitors use I use kz zs 10 uh in ear monitors. Um, or zs Zs 10 that's there's another uk us thing zs zs I'll find the link for you. Um, there you go top of the search list there and um, yeah, they're I think they're about $50 or something like that and they are Perfect. They're not as good as the, um, road, um, nth 100s, which are, you know, over the ear headphones I just never like the look on a live stream. I do use this is what I use when I'm actually listening to stuff on my computer Um, but not when I'm streaming or on zoom meetings. People shouldn't ever wear headsets on zoom meetings. It just looks so weird To be on a call with somebody and they got their headset on I guess, uh, yeah in in in I guess in a uh an office environment, then it's maybe Maybe that's the the use case for them, but I'll just drop these in The kz zs 10 kz zs 10 pro uh monitors and they've they've been great. I've had these for, uh I guess just over two years now And yeah, really really good quality good price I did look at some of the shores and things like that And uh, yeah, I think for for what I'm doing the more than adequate You can go to ridiculous extremes with With headphones as you probably as you probably know Um, Ernesto, what about the hiss first of all? Hello. Thanks for being here. What about the hiss? If you're talking about the hiss on this mic right now, um, it may actually be my air con and I've got the noise gate set And I'll talk about the audio processing. I've got the audio, uh, noise gate set so that when I stop talking It goes completely quiet and part of the reason for that is when I'm on zoom calls or in them in discord or things like that Um, if I don't speak, I don't want to be sort of manually muting all the time But I wanted to be what that when I stop speaking it is deadly silent So that then you know, people are not hearing background noise or me tapping on the keyboard or anything like that But there is actually an air con unit going up here and that is introducing a hiss into uh into this mic The the hiss of the the thing I'll I'll show you that in a moment I'll go through the audio processing settings in very brief detail because I did cover the audio processing in a previous Livestream which I'll link to afterwards as well Um, so yeah, I don't know if I don't know if that's what you're talking about in terms of if I've just got the If I've got my mic down, uh, I I'm not hearing anything the um, the uh, the the preamps on it are amazing So it's this high gain um, uh, low noise preamps So if you've got something like a a short sm7b, which typically unless you're docked with a big booming voice Typically the sm7b will require a something like a cloud lifter or something to sort of boost the signal In actual fact, if you use one of those in line with the rogaster duo or the pro 2 or the rogestream x It will actually introduce more noise because they've got these low noise preamps that are actually, you know better High get to add that gain than yet using a booster So certainly you don't need a cloud lifter or a fet head if you're using one of those uh, those dynamic mics that normally requires it Um in terms of the headphones though. Yeah, when I've got the headphones in I'm not hearing Anything in terms of the the headphone output So I don't know if that has been an issue for for you or others But I certainly haven't experienced it and that might be down to the fact that you know I don't claim to be an absolute audio expert in any stretch And I'm exaggerating by there because I'm not even close to what a lot of people are but um Yeah, it just it just feels fine to to me um Danny brown, it'd be nice if road released a firmware update for headphones like mic defaults So industry store warts like oh, that would be interesting. Yeah at the moment. They do have The the difference between like the high-sensitivity, you know these kind of things versus the over the ear And there is a setting specifically for these ones in fact So as well as like just over the earcans, uh, there is one setting that is just for this Mic just for this set of headphones But then when you look at the mic settings, so if I maybe show rather than just tell you about this if I come into the The settings and I tap on any one of these mics Mic inputs, maybe I'll just choose not the active mic right now. I'll choose this one Um, you've got these sort of presets for different mics now. Um, they are presets for Generally road mics. So as well as the line in the instrument the dynamic mic Uh, the condenser mic there. So if you've just got a you know, any any kind of mic you can use those But then they've got presets for the pod mic obviously the uh, there's the wireless mic that I mentioned um the Road broadcaster the procaster the nt1 nt1a and so on so they've got all of their mics in there And then they do have one preset for the short sm 7b So Danny, I guess what you're talking about is for the the headphones in the same way that we can adjust Either the high sensitivity or the cans or the nth 100 to have um, you know profiles, I guess for Uh specific headphone output. So I don't know whether that's something that is being considered or not But yeah, I get to get what you're saying there Um, let me just keep coming down these comments. Um The metering option is indeed nice. Yes. It's uh, good to see that. Um, just call it the roadcaster masterclass Yeah, well, so that is that so what he's talking about here. Maybe I'll maybe I'll maybe I'll use this as a as a cheeky segue so We're going to talk about the audio Audio routing we've already talked about and the audio processing and one of the things I found when I got the Rokaster pro 2 um and speaking to people is I felt like um, you know, it's It's really such an accessible device be it the Rokaster the streamer x or the uh, the duo here They're really accessible and they are, you know consumer devices But at the same time they're kind of like pro audio devices really aren't they and so I think a lot of people get them but don't really understand how to Do things like I mean the audio routing is is one aspect But then there is all of this on board processing which we'll look at And that's why I created the uh Rokaster pro 2 masterclass which really now needs to be changed to Road audio device masterclass because it does actually cover Not just the Rokaster pro 2 but it also covers the Rokaster duo really I will make some specific new videos to this to you know specifically about a couple of differences between the duo and the Rokaster pro 2 But it also really applies to the streamer x because the main reason that I created this as well as covering You know getting started guides of each of these sections You know how to connect up your device audio routing I talk about mic technique using the smart pads and each of these are sections So you can dive into each of these sections But it was these ones really that were my reasoning for making this So the foundations of dynamic audio processing because that is really you know the power and coming back to this Um question that there was earlier about you know, what's the difference between the Rokaster duo versus You know one of these other devices that allow you to plug in an xLR mic and take it into your computer over usb This is really for me I see as you know one of the main benefits is all of this dynamic on board processing that you've got But what even is that um and so there's a module all about that so talking about you know the basics of sound Understanding amplitude and frequency Measuring amplitude enabling broadcast meeting which we've just talked about Measuring frequency and understanding dynamic processes And what is Apex audio processing? So that's kind of like an introduction to What all of these on board processes are doing but then for each one I've dived into going into a lot more detail because when you start looking at the on board processing And this module alone here. Um, there's 10 there. There's another three pages There's about 30 lessons that are all about just actually, you know, optimizing your sound and uh, Then you mentioned earlier about the the pod mic, you know sounding good And thank you very much for for mentioning this on the the um the Rokaster duo and the pod pipe together Well, that's really also down to the audio settings. And so that's all sort of dialed in using this And so you can get a a link to the Rokaster pro 2 master class soon to be renamed And I mean a bit of a quandary about what to call it because I could call it the Rokaster master class And in fact the link is just Rokaster masterclass.com Um, and then as I say, it will cover the Rokaster pro 2 and the duo But I am going to be adding some content into that specifically about the Streamer x as well because it's all really under the same umbrella We've got all of the same on board processing with the streamer x as we have with the Rokaster duo in terms of, you know, the uh, the The noise gate the de-esser and all of that kind of stuff. So we'll we'll take a look in in that But yeah, well, I'll have to figure up the new name for it But it will apply to everything that we're talking about here. Anyway, that little bit of self promotion out of the way Let's get back to Get back to the questions And let me see where I am up to with this Five years of rcp and rcp2 shows in the duo they are listening it certainly does doesn't it? I mean it's it's like evolving to the the requirements and the needs of the the users and The rcp2 by the way, it's not like oh, there's a it's not like this is replacing it The rcp2 is still very much got a firm place in the market for people who want those multiple inputs You know, if you're doing a an in-person podcast with four guests or you've got multiple different inputs Or maybe you've got, you know, multiple guitars and instruments or stereo pairs There's still certainly a very good place for it in there But yeah And that yeah, so you had the same thought regarding unify and rcp2. Yeah, it's funny because it's talked about unify being for the You know as another app that you can use with the stream at x But just thinking about the the inputs and outputs. I surely can just select the I think anyway I digress you I'm glad we're on the same page with that though The unify beta, yeah, it's it's it's looking looking great, isn't it? Thanks to unify is a six to eight channel interface. Yeah. Yeah, so it gives us those extra extra channels Of course you do rock So yeah, where's the the rocaster the full mixing desk as well. We could we could get that but a rocaster pro A rocaster pro with eight channels for gigs. Most of the mixes make me mad after working on the rocaster pro To yeah, I mean that's the thing. It is it's like a consumer device, but at the same time It's a pro device, isn't it really? um, that's why as it says in the name um Oh, good. I'm glad we've got I've got we've got some more behind the the zed movement Use the earcans all the time Is that the the road ones? Yeah, I like I really do like the road nth 100 as I say I use them all the time when I'm For listening and stuff like that because they are much higher quality than certainly these ones Um, and I've much prefer that kind of thing a bit more comfortable as well than wearing these ones all the time um That's a link to uh road advanced audio setting stream Uh, oh, is that my is that my one? Oh, thank you very much doc um Best audio setup for uh, rocaster pro 2 So, uh, there we go. That's probably doc's link Given that rick just said cheeky um Let's have a little look. Um, let's have a little look. That's my other thing that rich keeps pointing out Let's take a large look As a customer of this course these advanced courses are worth the price alone. Thank you very much The uh check is in the post. Danny has taken the rocaster pro 2 masterclass and uh I really appreciate you saying that though. Thanks, Danny Um Captivate masterclass about templates. Hmm I still haven't got into captivate as I'm still using I'm digressing here I'm still using kajabi to host my thing just because that's where everything else is but captivate is the way forward RC masterclass rocaster masterclass. Yeah um Let's see where we are. Do you think the pricing is right between the x the duo and the pro 2? I was hoping for a bit more of a discount on the lower tier models That is a really interesting question and I do have a few thoughts on that So what about the pricing of the rocaster pro 2 versus the duo versus the streamer x? Let me just double check the exact pricing before I go off on something about this because The rocaster pro 2 I'm just going to pull it up now So I get this right the rocaster pro 2 as it stands is essentially 700 dollars The rocaster duo is for Essentially 500. Let's let's ignore the you know dot one So the rocaster pro 2 is 700 and the rocaster duo is is 500 Just double checking that yeah, so 700 versus 500 so I Think that's amazing that the rocaster duo is actually 200 dollars left less given that all your sacrificing is two inputs It I think I think I think that that is a I think that is a really good price for the rocaster duo Because it's got it's essentially all of the same stuff as you've got in the rocaster pro 2 and you're literally it Another way of saying it is if the rocaster duo is uh 500 It's an extra 200 to get another two mic inputs. Um, and I when I first saw that the you know, the prices announced Thanks doc for dropping those in Um, the the the prices that is um, I'll just drop those up on the screen there So that's uh 6 9 9 for whoops wrong one 6 9 9 for the where's that coming from? There we go 6 9 9 for the uh pro 2 4 9 9 for the duo and 3 9 9 for the streamer x So yeah when I saw the price of the duo and I did see some people saying that they thought that that was a bit expensive for Comparatively, I just disagree because it's got all of the same processing power as we've got in the rocaster pro 2 And uh, there are lots of people who are buying pro rocaster pro 2s But not using the ports and now they've essentially got a way to get you know, all of the functionality that they were using Um at that lower price point. So I don't personally think that the 4 9 9 Yeah, I think that that was uh I think I think that's that's a perfect price really as you know relatively I think there's nothing to nothing to complain about there in terms of the streamer x being 3 9 9 um If you look at something like let's just sort of put this together the streamer x is a a capture card Now, let's just take an industry standard capture card that streamers use these days So, uh, I'll see what the price is right now Elgato cam link and bear in mind the Elgato cam link, which is kind of like, you know, so many people use this these days um Uh, currently. Oh, it looks like it's on discount at the moment on amazon 91 dollars instead of 99 dollars But the cam link 4k is um, usually regular price 99 dollars Um, so that's the cam link 4k If you then look at something like let's stay with the Elgato range the Elgato Wave, uh, what's it called Elgato wave XLR? So the Elgato wave XLR is um regular price 160 Let's just take the regular price rather than any current discounts The wave XLR, which basically gives you um Uh a mic input and then you can adjust, you know, that's to take your mic in over XLR and there was another one mentioned earlier So I'm not sure quite what the price is of that Um, so that would be 160 plus the Elgato capture card. Um, that's 260 So let's say that to get a mic input and a capture card. You've got 260 um But bear in mind that's not really what the streamer x is doing The streamer x is doing so much more than that because it's got all of the on-board processing now Road has got unify and Elgato has got the wave link app as well. So that does work with that. Um Let's just bring up the streamer x here as well um But the streamer x is doing You know, you know So much more than just a mic input and all of the the things that i'm talking about with the rocaster pro 2 Versus the uh, you know rocaster duo having all of this on-board processing that really is You know the kind of the secret source. I think and so having um the um The streamer x At 4 9, uh, sorry at 3 9 9 It's not really that much of a stretch more than the uh, you know The combination of a capture card and uh, you know some other mic interface But having all of this on-board processing Then when you couple that with using it with unify to give you some of this audio routing I mentioned earlier about one of the things that I love about the rocaster pro 2 And also the duo is the fact that we've got these three usb channels going in And that's something that a lot of these audio interfaces don't they may well have a lot of features going in and out There was one that I was looking at recently which there's a new device from mucky, uh, which actually looks overly complicated and Is massive for for what it's doing But it's still only got this one usb channel going in as far as I can make out I'll have a better look at it But that's one of the benefits of of the the road devices is these multiple usb channels And the streamer x has got two usb channels as well. So it's not just a mic input It's also a way to do this audio routing and when you couple that with unify to then give you these hardware channels And also, you know, all this other stuff It's just unbelievable and and and all i'm doing right now is i'm comparing it to You know existing devices that you know are in the market. So the algato Camlink and the you know that one of me. I could have picked any one of these others. Um The the amount of processing that these have got on board is just is frankly quite Ridiculous compared to you know other things. So that is really the power of these is is in the onboard processing So I personally don't think that there is an issue with pricing on on any of these things It's the same actually about the pod mic. Um, I've got a video to make all about the pod mic specifically I did cover it in the I did a stream a couple of weeks ago about the pod mic and the streamer x um The pod mic there were people who were saying um, oh, I think this is a bit overpriced because the original pod mic was 99 um Now we've got the pod mic usb and it is 199 or it seems a bit expensive because it's you know It's just got the extra usb channel on it. It's like yeah, well, okay, then But then let's put that into context with what it's actually got in it And if you look at it compared to where's mine gone my sure mv7 You know, if you look at it like for like with a I'll say a comparable mic, you know, something that's got the same functionality Um, I find that the pod mic has got, you know, the usb and xlr the same as the short mv7 That was the reason why I originally bought my short mv7, but when you're using it over usb The pod mic has got a whole load of the audio processing that we've got on the Rocaster duo and rocaster pro 2 or on this microphone. And so actually It's it's it's a lower cost than the than the short mv7 to 200 versus 250 essentially And yet this has You know noise gate and all of these kind of different things the compressor and so on That's the short mv7 albeit it does have the shore motive app I think that this is just a much more sort of full featured mic as a usb mic So I think they've nailed the prices to be honest with you. Um, and Full disclosure, you know, they sent me these for review But so so I guess you could say oh, it's easy to say that when you were sent to you for review I can say I was already geared up to buy all of these devices as soon as they were announced and They're yeah I think that they're they're fine on the the price there. So Anyway, I I I've digressed enough on price, but I think that that's that's fine And thanks for the link stock and you would be posting my links The two dollar less is why I gave in and bought it. Yeah, it's that it's that one one dollar, isn't it? That always pushes people over the edge So, uh, let's see Yeah, I'm not quite sure not trying to be funny But you have to understand the licensing and regulatory costs for processing and being a a world device Um I guess for the things that they've got in the inside there that they're licensing. I guess that's the at the point there We'll say you're someone who's used a lot of interfaces not streaming platforms Just interfaces for what rcp2 gives you it does feel it's It's fairly priced. I'm scottish and so traditionally typed. Oh, that's great. Whereabouts in scotland are you? My parents are up in abadine I'm uh, I'm in the northeast of thailand. So we're we're not closed, but Yeah People who complain about pricing have never made anything there are a lot of costs involved Licensing for the compressor the no trick. Oh, there you go. Yeah the no trick combo jacks and dsp chips lcd screen and more The other thing I'll say on this point as well about similar when Just in general about people who complain I've seen people complaining about things that the rocaster can't do like he's got all this It may immense on board power and the the internals the internals are obviously not the same versus the There was a great video from road by the way where they stripped down the rocaster pro 2 I should go back and find that and drop it in the the description because that was what I really geeked out over that. I really loved that where they stripped it down and showed you what everything was going on inside And all the different connectors and so on But I digress there's a lot of power that it's got in terms of Being able to upgrade the the firmware and I do see people complaining. Oh, it doesn't do this or it doesn't do that It's like yeah, but look at everything it can do And I always buy things on the other features that they have got and what it's going to do for me Not my imagination of what it may do some that time down the line and then get annoyed when it's not doing what I wanted to do It's just to just make me laugh sometimes Um, but yeah, that's the same thing about the price everyone's just obviously we're all like everything to be a dollar Wouldn't we that would be great wouldn't it if everything Uh to take take your picture is whatever you want is a dollar, but it doesn't work like that And two people do complain without thinking sometimes Um, I think there are some awesome interfaces out here that offer auto gain Settings for example that make them perfect for creators for control features and updates road is outstanding value Thank you very much Um These are all talking about pricing still I think we've I think we've done this It is indeed it is uh 629 as we speak here in thailand um Yeah, that the the software on the pod mic and I did a demo of it I mean and the other thing about it is the um you're the without going off onto the pod mic tangent this one is um You plug it into road central, but then you can update the um the You're basically updating on the device So then even if you don't have road central open it's still got all of those settings And as I understand it if you then go and plug it into another computer it then also has those settings applied to it So it's it's actually updating something in the device itself as opposed to it just being um, you know, you don't need to have road central open to do it, but the The that you've got exactly the same level of uh detail in in terms of what you can adjust on there Actually, that's not quite true. You don't you don't have some of the things Maybe I'll run through the audio processing But you do have like the ones that you want like the compressor the noise gate and all of that kind of stuff And uh In Canada now three hours from Toronto, but originally from Edinburgh Uh, oh, thanks doc. That's the link to the uh the rcp2 strip down that is definitely worth a watch because There you get a bit more of an understanding about what's kind of going on inside it And when they talk about, you know, these high gain, uh low noise amps, you know, what is that actually well It's not just a little chip. There is, you know, physical hardware in there Obviously, uh, that's doing this and so it was really interesting to just see that and how uh, how that how that all looked when when it was taken apart Um, I will just go through then and uh talk about oh, sorry just one thing I'm sorry victor. I just missed your comment there. I believe the road stream x has the hdmi out So maybe closer to the cam links. Well, that's the other thing yet I mean I mentioned the cam link 4k just because it is You know a capture device, but yeah, actually you're right. It's the higher end or higher priced Cam link that we should be comparing this to because it has got the throughput as well It's got the pass through. Uh, so you're you're spot on there. Uh, and I can't remember exactly how much that is but Yeah, there's there's no comparison to me for comparing the road stream at x to just a capture card and a XLR to usb audio interface. It's just so much more than that. It's uh, It's it's quite ridiculous. So yeah, I think the I've Not that anybody cannot let they care, but I I give it the the pricing seal of approval Uh, and it is indeed built like a tank. That's the well, they all are actually but yeah The road caster pro 2 that teardown video was it was great Anyway, let's talk briefly then about some of the audio settings and as I say I did do this in a a complete live stream which doc link to and I'll go back and link to in the uh the settings Or in the settings in the the description if I can get my words out Um, so uh, what I'll do is I'll come back to um, oh there you go the hx hx 60 Sorry to come back to this the hx 60 is basically 200 dollars add to that the x l r go 150 dollars So you're already up to 350 So is it the question is if you want to take uh, you know I've a pass through capture card and you want to have an audio interface for your x l r mic Do you want to spend an extra 50 dollars to get everything else that the stream x give you? I would recommend that that is probably a wise uh a wise decision Um So let's go through some of this audio processing I know as I say, I'm not going to go through all of this and exactly what it is all doing But it is worth just mentioning here, um because It is one of the things that makes the road caster what it is Um, here we uh, here we get into the the processing and effects So if you tap on any one of these mics Or one of these inputs, I should say and that is a point to note You can apply these effects to your usb channels to your bluetooth channels It's going to bring up this and you've got some presets for different mics as we've talked about. Um, however Um, you can then go and make some adjustments. So these presets are essentially just presets For the advanced onboard processing that it has got I'm going to just stay in that mic actually for the time being So what I've done is I've used the pod mic preset to begin with But I have gone through and actually changed a lot of this Let me just go through and just show you a different mic to begin with the basic processing that they've got I say basic. It's a basic interface for the advanced processing. They've got this thing here these three things This is what they call their uh called vox lab and they've got depth sparkle and punch So tapping on one of those this is for a different mic, but it's uh Depth is going to add sort of more of that Richness to the lower end tones sparkle is more of that higher end clarity and so on and what all of these are doing And then there's punch as well, which is adding some other elements to the device But what these are all doing though is they're all controlling what's going on in the background So they're they're controlling all of these different things that we've got in here You can go into these individually though by clicking on the advanced processing And what I'll do is I'll just go back to my main mic because somebody mentioned hiss earlier on And I wasn't sure whether what hiss that we're talking about whether it was hiss in the background of my voice And and you know if that was introduced in the mic I suspect that what they're referring to is actually my air con so going into these things We've got the high pass filter just briefly as I say I did a whole video Which is all about the advanced processing Previously and also obviously in the you come in the rocaster masterclass But just briefly what these are doing the high pass filter is for knocking out lower end tones And that could be from your you know anything got going in the background like the low hum of an air con unit For example, which I've tried to knock out some of it with this So that's what the high pass filter for is just removing Certain lower end tones or it may be even out of your voice. I mean if I turn this all the way up here You'll see that it knocks out The lower tones from my voice, which is not actually sounding great, but that's what that's for Next is the ds so that is to remove those s sounds from your voice And by the way these you can turn on either globally or individually as well Globally what I mean is you can turn on or off the overall processing or you can turn off the individual effects If you don't want to use the ds a Whoops a daisy gone to the wrong one there Next is the noise gate. That is the thing that I said if I turn my noise gate off and stop waffling on for a while You'll hear that there is this sort of constant thing in the background, which is my air con Which you're going to hear as a hiss So I don't if you're hearing that I can certainly hear it in my monitors But that is the background hiss of my my air con And then when I turn the noise gate on I have it so that my noise gate shots completely so that the audio doesn't get through Next is the compressor. That's essentially kind of leveling out the different volumes within your Your voice or whatever's going in so you can have it so that it's basically going to compress those low at those higher Higher volumes and maybe boost up those lower ones to just make it so it's a lot more even And you're not getting you know widely ranging Audio volume coming through into your mix and as I say I explained what all these different things were in that previous live stream Then we've got the equalizer here, which is an equalizer that you've got basically three different points of adjustment there So you can adjust the low tones the mid tones and the high tones And then you can adjust, you know, how much that is by the way, if you just double tap on one of those You can also adjust the sort of width so as well as adjusting the the amount there Where is it? Oh, it's actually press and hold. It's not double tap. It's press and hold You can also adjust the the sort of width that that's applying to so if you look at that there I'm really just applying that to that really thin area of those particular tones But if I make that wider Then it is adjusting a much wider range of them and then press and hold again And it goes back to then being adjusting the level So I think that's a little sort of thing that people don't really see necessarily Especially if they haven't read the manual But if you press and hold it will actually change that setting there Next is the exciter And this is the big bottom which adds richness to the lower end tones and the oral exciter Which adds clarity and sparkle to the higher end And then you've got the panning. So that is the advanced audio processing now on the podmite usb Let's think which ones you get on there You do get the the the high pass filter. Do you you get the dsa the noise gate Which don't you get there's one of them you don't get you get the compressor Equalizer I'm forgetting now. There's one or two of them that you don't get on there But you do get the ones which I want which is the noise gate The compressor obviously and then Which other one the equal I think you get the equalizer But anyway, so this is the podmite usb. I'm talking about it does have a lot of this on board processing Certainly certainly more than the mb7 I haven't really mentioned the smart pads You can do all of the same things with the smart pads as you can do on here So for example, you could play a music bed if you wanted And that would that would play through And you can also what I need to be doing is I need to be listening to that. Let me stop that Sorry for that. Let me just get this up What's happening is I hadn't said I want to listen so I couldn't hear and then you can do all of the other effects You can also apply those sound effects like things like the megaphone voice and all of that kind of stuff Not something that I use but I know people do So if you want to add those kind of effects, you can do all of that in there I mentioned before about using midi controller to actually Use this dial which I'm not going to use because I'm billy. No mates. I don't have people in the studio with me So this dial here for the second headphone socket is something that I'll likely be using for For either for midi I wonder actually if these can be changed later I mentioned that they've got this they are this rotary encoder with the push thing I wonder if this might be able to be programmed at some point later so that one could be for headphone one This one might be for the the headphone the headset on the front potentially. Who knows But for the time being I'll be using that with the midi Now you can access All of the different things on here from a midi point of view Let me come into here if I go into these smart pads, for example, you can assign a Thing to it. So if I click on this one, click on here The things that you can assign to the smart pads are either sounds sound effects So that is like the robot sound effect and things like that There is mixer effects here So you can add either the sensor button if you want to beep yourself out when you are talking Nonsense, you've also got trash talk here. This is an interesting one This is a button that allows you to basically have Only you and the people in the studio will be able to hear each other So that means if you've got another person in studio on a mic and on the headphones Then it's a way to talk trash about whoever else is watching or listening on the stream without anyone else hearing and anyone calling in apparently as well So that's what that's for fade in and fade out So these are actions where you press a button and it can maybe fade your music in or fade your music out Whilst still being able to speak over the top of it Or you can with this exclude host or you can include the host if you just want everything to fade out Back channel is where you can set up this stuff that i'm doing down here I mentioned where i'm kind of listening to channels, but then i'm also Doing some rooting here of sort of i'm listening to everything But i'm removing the discord from the from the stream You can set up presets for that in here To decide what's going where and then you press a button and it just applies that back channel If you want to just have it so that you can just speak into the discord Maybe without this it going out into stream momentarily you could assign that to a button and then you've got ducking which is This is one thing that i've heard people saying that they want slightly more advanced control over this It's not something i use personally but at the moment the ducking is just one preset, which is basically if you have that on then Ducking is whereby anytime you speak it's going to reduce the volume of everything else Slightly so that you can be heard over the top of it. So typically with music you've got a music track playing If you put yourself into dj mode And then when you speak it might just drop the music down as you're speaking and then automatically raise it back up again Or indeed if you are on a podcast and you want to speak over your guests Then it would technically work with that as well But there isn't really any sort of fine tune adjustment That is just all that you get that is what the the ducking is And these things can all be momentary or latching and so on But there is also these midi controls here So you can if you've got some sort of midi device on your or midi interface on your computer Then you can assign certain things to each of these buttons But actually everything on the device is addressable as a midi controller So if you're using something like ecamm live and there is an application called elmc I've still got to make a video all about this ecamm live midi controller. Although actually Duck if you're still there, I know you did a full run through of this So maybe drop that video in but you can use the rocaster pro 2 with elmc ecamm live midi controller And that means that then you know, technically with a recent update to elmc You could actually assign a fader to in fact Who was it earlier? Let me just backtrack myself Let me just backtrack myself because somebody earlier and I forget I do apologize exactly who said this Somebody was asking about if you're using ecamm live with interview mode And you've got multiple guests Then can you actually adjust their levels independently on the rocaster? The answer to that is they do come in from ecamm as a single channel However, technically what you could do is you could use elmc to map one of the faders To interview guests one and one to interview guests two and so on and and then The fader would then become a control for that instead of the input or the output Yeah, so so actually I take it back You could technically be using the rocaster to control the audio of your interview guests independently in ecamm live Albeit they would still technically be coming into the rocaster on a single channel But you would be adjusting the volumes within ecamm because you can adjust volume in ecamm independently obviously as well I don't know if incidentally without going off onto a separate device If you are using the stream deck plus the stream deck plus has four dials the ecamm live plugin has The ability to assign those dials to specific interview guests as well So I probably should have should have mentioned this earlier, but that's actually what I do for my audio for guests is I have a a dial on my stream deck plus I use their feature called dial stacks. So there's just one for interview guests and then I can press the stream deck button to just cycle through All of the guests and then adjust their volume Accordingly there. Um, but yeah, the midi the midi um controls on it are give it another layer then of A functionality I'm also really interested with the streamer x the fact that they've added in this This feature with the streamer x where you can control your power point or keynote presentation And that might seem like a small thing It's just sending keystrokes essentially the the left and right arrow the escape key and you know putting up a blank slide and so on So with the streamer x you can do that with these these little buttons There's a presentation mode that then makes this forward and backwards next Next slide and so on It is though a little bit of intriguing as to okay now they're doing You know inputs key inputs on the pads themselves So I wonder where that's going to go in terms of are we going to get some sort of interface to be able to You know a little bit like stream deck to be able to program actions that are going to do things You know other than just controlling an app It's just one of these things that was I found the streamer x really intriguing for that point of view It was a couple of firsts really, you know this breakaway to be able to add that kind of functionality in You know keyboard actions on the the device and then also obviously the the video capture element of streamer x as well was that was intriguing from that point of view So Let's have a look the the rocaster duo Arriving tomorrow. Yes, you're you'll you'll absolutely love it Um Exactly the high pass filter Let's the high frequencies pass through noise gate fences out the noise. Yes. It's quite Quite logical when you think about it What what the the thing that I find people get confused about though is When they first go into it and as I say, this is why I created the course This is why I did that live stream last week or the week before Is all of these different terms that are that are related to it You know the the threshold the release the attack and yeah, it it is all logical once it's explained, but People don't have that sort of base knowledge, but yeah, they do do kind of what they say on the tin as it were Hello, Charlotte great to see you here arrived very late because I've been busy setting up my duo that arrived today Oh, congratulations must be exciting times If you if you have got it then go and check out that video as well Because today I've been obviously giving my thoughts and an overview of it But if you're going through the setup process then check definitely check out that live stream that I'll I'll go and put it back in the description as well But doc link to it in fact, I'll leave it as the The the video to click through to at the end of this But that was all about the audio processing and that is really as I say the power of the rocaster duo As with the pro 2 and the streamer x is to really dial in your audio. So definitely worth watching that one Um rest about with these processing settings because it can make it is really worth messing about When because it make a huge difference to your audio, but there again, it's like what what do you do? There's also um You need to understand the the signal chain. I know you Probably more than aware of this Danny But yeah understanding the signal chain like if you go and adjust something right at the very end You know the last thing in the chain and then you come back and adjust something at the beginning It is going to impact on those things some of the processing effects that you have are Subtractive they're sort of taking stuff away like the the ds or it's kind of technically removing something Isn't it it's you know reducing the volume The the noise gate as well is is removing something albeit, you know fairly simply And the same with the the high-pass filter there as well So if you then go and do something later on and then come back and adjust that that will have a sort of knock-on effect But again, I explain all that in the the live stream from last week for those that are interested And uh, oh thanks for the link to docks el mc video keely much appreciated Um, so the question then is I'll just wrap this up because I'm going on for two hours here The question then is um, if you are thinking of getting one of these devices the roadcaster pro 2 The road streamer x or the roadcaster duo, which one um, should you choose? And if you are just making that that initial decision right now, he says just trying to adjust my uh My top-down shots to get all of these devices in shots. That was terrible, wasn't it? But if you are thinking about one of these, which one is going to be the one that you should you should go for Really with the roadcaster pro 2 and the roadcaster duo, uh, the answer is simple It's a case of if you need more than uh, two xlr or you know Maybe a jack input as well If you need more than those two inputs bearing in mind that this also has that headset as well But if you've got more than two mics, um, then the roadcaster pro 2 has got the four inputs there But if you don't see yourself using, you know, if you've only got one mic or maybe a maybe one mic in a second mic Maybe a mic like this right in front of your face for your things. Maybe you have a separate You know a boom mic shotgun mic out of shot for for for other use cases Or you're going to use a mic like this and maybe that one of the road wireless mics that you compare with this Um, then this has got all of the same processing power as this one And I know that I'm probably going to be recommending this to a lot more of my clients who are looking to you know Do the the sort of audio routing that I do with meeting platforms and and present for their online meetings and presentations and things like that And if you are a content creator that you want to have that finer control over your audio But just taking your mic into your computer for your podcast your Videos for youtube or whatever it is Or maybe you're a musician with a guitar and a a mic going in Yeah, the roadcaster duo has got all of the same power as this pro 2 Just in a smaller form factor The streamer x where that sort of fits into this then is um Yeah, if you're looking to level up your audio and video in your zoom meetings or teams meetings Or maybe your live streams or whatever The streamer x still gives you all of that same on-board processing and this also has multiple mic inputs So, I mean, I didn't really mention that when we talked about the xlr, you know the the elgato xlr This although it only has one xlr input It does also have the headset input So once again, you can use the headset with it as well and it can also pair with a road wireless mic When you use this with road central, you're basically choosing one of those So you press the button here and it picks either the main mic the the xlr mic Inputs or the headset or the wireless mic when you use this with unify You actually get all three of those so you can have all three of those inputs simultaneously So there is you know another reason why this has got a lot of power in it But you just don't have the faders. It's only got the it's only it's only got the two usb Channels so it's got two usb cables the same as this has Or these have whereas these have actually got three usb channels Over those two cables. So one of them has two one of them has one That said, you know, who knows where things may go in the future with firmware updates I've got no idea, but I wonder about you know, if there's any other capability of that further down the line Who knows? But this is certainly something that can just sort of simplify your Simplify your setup if you've got a camera coming in obviously It's removing a capture card Um out of the the mix and then allowing you to plug your mic in One thing I will say about all these devices I mean, I've got these all plugged in at the moment and I did run into an issue I had a really strange thing where when I had the road stream x plugged in with the ROCASTER pro 2 I noticed that Two of the ROCASTER pro 2 channels Suddenly the usb channels weren't being picked up by my computer at least not but they were being picked up But nothing no audio was going in and out and it turned out that this was down to the way that I'd got these rooted through a dock And you've always got to bear this in mind if you do ever plug these devices in To your computer and and maybe they don't show up or they're not behaving as you expect Don't automatically assume that it's the device it could well just be the you know the the routing that you've got And maybe it's too much going through a particular usb bus on your computer The interesting thing with well Interesting to me about that particular issue that I had with the stream x and the ROCASTER pro 2 Was that they were both plugged into separate docks into separate sockets on the computer And so I kind of didn't really initially think that that was the issue It's not like they were both plugged into the same thing However, when I plugged it into a a separate port on the computer There was there was no issue whatsoever. So it wasn't anything to do with the devices themselves. It was down to the docks Just a little digression, but it's worth just noting that So The streamer x as well has this capture and pass through so the way that I'm I'm currently using this This is my main camera is coming through here Although the way that I will ultimately use this is for when I'm doing virtual presentations And I want to pass through a presentation from one computer and then have that go into the second I'm also going to look at using the the extra two usb six sockets on here with that second computer To then pass through audio into my primary computer And then that can be routed on the the computer into the ROCASTER duo ordinarily, I think probably The majority of people are not going to be choosing like both of these devices together or two of these devices together I would guess for the majority of people. They're going to choose the one that works for them Uh, I'm interested to see where video go though with the whole I am interested to see where they go with the whole video aspect Because bear in mind this is just kind of like the ROCASTER streamer Sorry, the road streamer x is just their sort of first steps into the world of video So, uh, yeah, the mind boggles as to where that might actually go in the future And I'm really interested to to see that Let me just quickly wrap up here with this question as curiosity What would you recommend to serious indie podcast to alec duo for one? One person podcast with maybe guests down the line or rcp2 with That just depends really on where you Where you potentially see your show going if you think that you are going to maybe be doing an in person show with, you know, more than two people Then then yeah, the ROCASTER pro 2 gives you that scalability. I can't see me ever doing a an in person show with four people because of the fact that I'm Generally speaking to people all over the world and I'm in the northeast of thailand. So Yeah, and we do. I mean, there's the creators pod podcast. Let me just drop that in the creators pod podcast Which I've just dropped a link into And that is that is me keely who's in the chat And there's the six of us on that podcast, but we just do that virtually over using ecum live And using interview mode and we come into there and we get all of our things separately incidentally The episode that we've just recorded which will be coming out next next week Was all about gas gear acquisition syndrome And this thing that we fall into as creators where we where we potentially, you know See the shiny objects and and end up acquiring all of this tech gear Long story short the the upshot that we all came to for this was Yeah, it's a case of just understanding your needs and buying what you need But sometimes, you know, you can go down rabbit holes with this But anyway, I digress slightly But yeah, the creators pod podcast is definitely worth a listen And we as I say in the next episode we talk specifically about some of these road devices as well So to answer the question though and getting back to the question If you can see a A four person or three person in person podcast in your future Then yeah, maybe the the the roadcaster pro two is definitely there But if you're only thinking, you know, if you're only really going to be ever doing one or two people maximum one or two Mike smacks The the duo is going to be fine for the vast majority of people and it's and it's also actually bought Let's talk come back to this price momentarily It's also actually bought all of this processing power that is for me the core benefit of the roadcaster pro two It's now just suddenly bought it within reach of people who maybe previously felt that the roadcaster pro two Was out of their price range. You've now got all of this for a lower price. So Yeah That's my my final word on that if I get to the right foot pedal pressed Do we need to use loop back with the roadcaster duo when using ecum No, that is actually the the whole thing that this replaced for me. So Before I had the roadcaster pro two I was using my short mv7 over usb And I was using audio hijack to do some of that onboard processing to reduce background noise and things like that And then I was using loop back to do some of the audio rooting for zoom calls and and so on So so that is effectively what the roadcaster has replaced in terms of say replaced It's done a much better job of replacing it as well. But it's all of that rooting you can do with the roadcaster certainly if you're using Ecum to go into zoom and you want that two-way audio So maybe you want your audio to pass through into zoom But you also want to bring the zoom participants into your ecum recording If you want to have a back channel going in discord or maybe you're using zoom iso So you've got zoom iso going with your speakers You've got a zoom meeting or a webinar going that you're pumping that into and then you've also got ecum running You've got those three channels. So The roadcaster duo is Perfect for for that and that's why I mentioned at the beginning it feels like they've designed this device for me And yes indeed the podcast is indeed hosted on captivator rich. Oh rich is here, of course Another one of the peas from the creators pod podcast Let's have a look It is indeed smart market positioning from uh road with the stream at x because of this thing of I'm obviously always on about you know, people leveling up there They're in meeting experience or they're in meeting presence online So in when they're giving presentations and things like that and the real thing that I wasn't expecting So when I saw this announced at nab, I was you know, I was all over it Or be it a little bit confused at the beginning because they mentioned you could do the routing with unify And unify at that point hadn't been announced for the the mac. So I got into a bit of a fuss about that You know, it's available on the mac But as it was it works with road central and also unify which is now In beta for the mac and coming very soon But it is very smart market positioning because Although it's called the stream at x it is also very much aimed at people who just want to have that high quality audio and video going into their meetings And the thing that really just surprised me was this integration with powerpoint and keynote And I know that I've spoken to people who said this is actually what they really want They just want to have these big buttons for start video stop video mute their mic And they've got the big clear hardware buttons and then next slide and previous slide And it's it's just catered for a whole whole demographic there. So I think that is um that is great Um, oh, you've got yours today. They uh, which which one was that the road Road stream at x or the the the duo, but yeah, the setup of both of them is really easy Uh, I'll say really easy. I'm just noticing that keely is in the discord And the setup is really easy unless you have some issues with uh, yeah usb and various other different things Um You never use loopback personally, I always work things out a different way Um, yeah loopback loopback was fine. I know that it was confusing for a lot of people sometimes Confusing for some people some of the time Um But yeah, I mean the the number of options available specifically across this range now I mean, I think they've just done an amazing job. Just this range here is a huge amount of options. So um, yeah The duo well, yeah, you must be uh, must be over the moon with it now. It is uh, it's a really nice device Anyway, I'll leave it there unless there are any further last questions um Yes, let's not bring up your stream x experience They are ptsd kicking in but anyway If there are any final questions on any of these devices If you are watching on the replay then do feel free to drop those into the comments or better still Why not head over to the take one tech discord community so you can join that at take one tech i o slash family It's free to join and there's no sort of Pay wall up there. You can just go in and join there in the conversation or if you've got any questions That's actually the easiest way to get hold of me. I do fall behind on my youtube comments Um Thank you very much. Danny. I'm glad you find them useful um So, uh, yeah, I will be doing a a formal video about the rocaster duo as well a little bit more concise than this Two hour one. Um, but if you are watching on the uh, sorry just one last question Um, can I connect a scarlet with two mics via usb to the road x? And I assume two channels would be a single mix um I'm just thinking Two mics via usb to the road x the input that you've got on the back of the road streamer x although you can connect it to a Uh to a an external device like a phone or a tablet And I understand the road pod mic usb can also connect over usb Into the duo I have to check that. I'm just thinking out of there. I haven't tried that out I think so. I'm not sure that you can take like a scarlet or at least I don't think you can take a scarlet and plug Any usb mic into it? I might be wrong about that, but um, yeah, otherwise it would be going into the computer And then you would route it into the into there. So, um, it's kind of Yeah, to obviously you've got the scarlet because you want the two mic inputs Yeah, I don't think that would that wouldn't just root through the stream x I was just thinking if there was a work around to it, but no it wouldn't go through that But you could take it into the computer and then have it going through Unify and have it rooting that way while still also combining some of the stuff from the stream x, but um, yeah Yeah, so the thing about yeah, it will and will be a single mix But I'm just meaning about the going into actually plugging into the stream x itself as opposed to going into the computer I don't think it will um Cool. Anyway, well with that said Um, I hope you've found that useful and if you are watching on the replay what I'll do is I'll go back After the fact and I'll leave a link to the the the stream I did just last week a couple of weeks all about the advanced audio processing And how to get that set up on your stream x or on your rochester duo or rochester pro 2 Thanks for watching. I'll see you all next time