 So talking to Thomas Morsev yesterday, he was very, I asked Arthur about him in the press conference on Monday. He said he should talk to him. He's a really interesting guy and he kind of was. But I thought it was really interesting like his whole journey from state's organization now coming to Atlanta and I was just kind of curious like from your perspective like how much did you know about him kind of as he came in a couple weeks ago? Well you know coaching special teams you get the opportunity to already watch a lot of film and watch a lot of punters throughout the league and a lot of specialists throughout the league or even court players. Had the opportunity to have a joint practice with the Saints a couple of years ago when I was with the Chargers they came down twice so that was like my first opportunity to get a chance to you know speak with Thomas and meet with him while coaching special teams. And then last year we actually played against the Saints earlier in the season when I was with the Lions he was a punter for them as well so coaching special teams meeting them in pre-game where there was in practice just getting an opportunity to know different guys throughout the league and see how each individual how they are and how they operate so whether it was in practice or in games and then it's a blessing not to have him in the building currently as our punter which is awesome. I problem that was like misdiagnosed. Even said he's like you know my kids saw me get fired like two times over the course of the last few months and he was like that was I always wanted to be a good example to them and to other people too. I mean what does that kind of just say about him as a person in his journey to Atlanta but also kind of just the realities of sometimes being a special teams player in this league. You know it shows his resilience and it's a great opportunity for us as individuals to see the why you know why things happen his journey how it happened and then seeing him bounce back from that and get an opportunity to come here and be a player for us a critical player for us when it comes to being a coach on special teams. You know you know that was unfortunate that happens but I believe you know you never put in situations that you can't handle and he's a great example of that being able to be adaptable. You know obviously the sacrifice he's got to make he's away from his family whether he's playing with the Jets and now with the Falcons and seeing him bounce back from that and being able to take advantage of the opportunities that are given currently so it's a big testament to his personality his character and who he is as an individual. You know those conversations you know those internal conversations those are between us but you know that you get to understand you used to go back and you watch the film and you could see the correlation when it comes to that you know other issues or whatever not not being fully a hundred percent are playing you know you know what the you know like I say like you know a slight handicap per se you know playing with a slight handicap and you could see it's actually kind of amazing to see him still go out there and play at the NFL level and be able to punt and do some of the things that he was doing last year and dealing with that and even years prior and then now being able to work with him now and see him you know turn the corner when it comes at so it's again a big big testament to his character who he is as an individual and being resilient and being able to you know come back after having those situations but he's been doing a great job we appreciate him in the building and the players love working with them and he's been great in the meetings again you know it comes back to that we have the players on a roster and each individual I mean that's what you want to you want to be about that it's not about you know sometimes people get fixated on proving people wrong rather than proving yourself right and that's what he's right now doing he get an opportunity to come back prove that you know he still has that ability to punt at a high level in NFL and be able to flip the field and help our defense be in better field position so you know right now we're just in the present you know week by week our main objective right now is putting together a great game plan putting the right personnel in the field on special teams to go out there and help our offense and defense on special teams versus San Fran and that's what the main objective right now is but he's been doing a great job for us. Maybe we basically worked with Hunter last year close to this Mike Jatt and then multiple bets this year for punters what's the difference because like you know what between like younger guys and like defensive end or even sometimes kickers like for Hunter what like what is the difference between the guy is there much I think his experience being able to you know have those experiences and having no situational punt situational different situations in the game having to score versus being down and the team rushing you guys going double vice when your team's going double vice and being able to punt the ball there's different stresses that you you go through and experiences you know more set cold quit they've been through everything they've been through the whole ringer playoff football playing and you know well there's preseason of playoffs they've been through all that stuff and then you know last year having a guy like Jack Fox that his first NFL punt was week one of the season and getting now you had to provide him and try to make adverse situations within practice which is a little bit harder to do but you try to do that with what guys whether you have a young punter or if you have a guy that hasn't had that much experience that's been in the league for a couple of years you try to provide those guys with those opportunities so they could grow from those situations and no different end up where I practice we might work it back to a punt you know yeah we didn't have it back to a punt yet this year but we're going to practice that so when we get in the game not only the punter but the punt team and the protection they're aware of the situation and they've been in a situation before rather than their first time doing it is actually in a game so I think that's the biggest difference with those punters is being able to have those experiences and being in those being exposed to certain situations certain punts certain aspects of the game indoor outdoor you know playing playoff football playing you know fourth quarter got a punt five times in the fourth quarter with the lead and various pressures different coordinators are going against so that's the whole element that you know a guy like more said has over you know a guy that's a first-year player when it comes to that I don't say yeah I don't say more say it frees me up but it allows me to also to pick his brain as well too on how he's handled certain situations under different various teams various coordinators various stadiums dealing with wind dealing with field position allows me to pick his brain so I think it actually opens up Pandora's box when it comes to that because I could I could dig deep and ask questions because I don't have all the answers and I never will have all the answers but I'm a fight like hell to get all the answers for our players and for our team so that's what it comes down to when it comes to that so if anything it gets me um gets me fired up because I know he's experienced a lot of things that I haven't experienced that as a coach and he's been playing in NFL longer than I've been coaching in NFL so the opportunity to pick his brain by various situations helps and that's going to only help for down the road the next man whether it's a practice squad player like Dom Agio or a guy down the road that might help down the road for experience when it comes to certain situations of certain punts. Yeah coach I just wanted to uh check in with you on the punter I guess he has a different spin on him the vehicles kind of scrambled him uh lost a couple of last week cost 10 points have you seen that and uh or y'all trying to get ready for that? You know Mitch is he's a he's an Aussie punter you know he has an end over end pun he has a spiral point he's right footed just like every other right footed punter in the NFL if you go back and you watch the film of the three-month punts this year it comes back to basic fundamentals catch mechanics as a returner you could have a really good returner but if you're not having urgency to go catch the ball get your nose underneath the football have a good base keeping the ball high and in front of you and making sure that you're secure to catch you have an opportunity for that ball to go on the ground and the number one job as a punt return unit is make sure that we have the ball on offense the next play you saw last week Cincinnati there's two month puns one the first one let the three points the second one let the seven points and then a couple weeks prior Jacksonville table Austin dropped one that led the three points so we got to make sure that we're controlling and creating field position but we got to make sure we have the football first and don't give them an extra possession two-thirds of games in an NFL or one score games so we can't allow them to have that extra possession so they could get that extra score or the opportunity to get extra score it's all about we don't want to give them hand them field position put our defense in bat field position that's not fair to our defense and that's not fair to our team but the answer your question he's a right-footed punter he's been doing a great job getting getting up and through the football he's a directional punter guy he could switch it at the last second before the ball snapped but it's our job to have urgency to the football's returner get our nose underneath football secure to catch I mean every punter you know every punter NFL they have their own different you know style and their different punts but at the end of the day the ball shaped a certain way it's 100 yards on football field sidelines about 52 53 yards I mean there's 22 guys on the field so when it comes to that I don't say per se he has a different spin it's all about us controlling what we can control and it's again effort attitude and then lasting our technique that's just something that he does and it goes back to just honing in and being brilliant at the basics you know goes back to getting his nose underneath the football you can see he's moving around having a square base and you go back and you watch guys like Devin Hester at practice he would do the same thing making sure he's catching the ball square you could go back to let's talk about kickoff return kickoff return by the time the returner catches the ball it's about 25 to 30 yards in front of him so he could have a stagger stance and he could probably catch it on the run if he wants to because he has time the defenders are 25 yards away palm returns a whole different beast because by the time you can't control how far the ball's going to be punting and you can't control how close a defender is going to be so as a pun returner you never know that defender's going to come from so you want to catch it with a square base because you never know you want to be in a triple third position let's say for example we're running a right return so we're running the ball to your left my right if I catch the ball in a stagger stance like this with my right foot up and I catch it like this now I got to take a couple extra steps to get there well if that defender is right here on me and I took those couple of steps it's a bang bang play makes a tackle rather than I catch it and then I could go or catch it make the first guy miss so you want to be in that position to where you could catch it and you could get to where you need to get to and you're trying to get to one to return and two you're trying to make the first guy miss so that's what it comes down to that so you can see he's always trying to have a square base in order for you have a square base you got to have urgency to go get underneath the football we talked about like a center fielder in baseball you can't just like jog back you got because by the time you go to catch it if you're drifting this way and you catch the ball and let's say you're about 15 yards away from me by the time I get myself to this position you already gained five to seven yards you're already closer to me because now I'm now in the position to get vertical so that's things that we work on and he's brought a lot of tools that he's worked on coming from Boise State coming from various coaches you worked under and it's our job as coaches to enhance that and keep him detailed with it and making sure that we're continuing to have urgency with those details yeah Aaron has a toolbox just like Mitch has a toolbox and then there's a reason why they're in the NFL because of that toolbox that they have and their ability to hit spiral punts or hit end over end punts or show a punt to their right and then hook it back to their left they have that they have that ability to put the stress on the returner which is awesome it's a great chest smash to go against and our job as like our return team as the returners we got to make sure we swing at the right pitches if there's an opportunity we have to just fair catch it and make sure we have the ball for the next play do it if they out kick the coverage and we have room to work with let's do it if the ball's hitting the ground it takes one big bounce and Avery could our returner could catch it and go he could take it if it's bouncing around and it's like ooh I don't know if I should return that one then let's just stay away from it Peter Peter so those uh that ability for the punter with those you know different punters with those different styles like Mitch or Sipos it provides a different dynamic to the game because they're able to have good ball placement good control of the football when they're going directional punting or if they're backed up if they wanted a spiral punt so not only are we just working catching a spiral pun we got to work on catching various different types of puns whether it's going to our left and to our right or if it's down the middle or if it's backed up and he wants to hit an end over end whatever the case may be we're providing our players with the tools to be successful so it's not their first time seeing it on Sunday all right thank you guys