 Those things don't bug me at all. That doesn't bug you? Not at all. Really? I've gotten fights on the internet about it. Where am I supposed to curl then? To curl rack? There's no such thing. If no one's squatting, I think you use a rack for whatever the hell you want. You know, where they'll do every single play and then throw chicks on it. Oh, you don't like chicks, huh? More weights on top of it that are unhinged. Oh, so you're throwing shots at Tom Callis, huh, friend? I'm not throwing shots at anybody. Damn, Tom Callis. That's it. Yeah. Girls backwards on the hit machine? I have that one. I call it the yes-no machine. Yeah, yes-no machine. Exactly. That's called a good girl, bad girl. That one. That one. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Topic Thunder. I'm your host, Silent Mike. And this is Daniel Storni, Cloud, and the crying Cloud that's crying. Isn't that where it came from? That's where you said it came from. Oh, yeah. And then you blamed it on your brother, and then I was with your brother, and he said that's not the truth. That was what I was told. Yeah, but you're the cry baby. No. What? I don't know. No, no, no, no. Ladies and gentlemen, Kevlar. Kevlar Ka'i, the arm, the FPS god. New haircut, too. New haircut. Let him know. Give it to him, dude. Wave that thing. Flip my hair back and forth. I'll flip my hair back and forth. And the legend Jim McDee through SP.co. Be sure to give this thing a little thumbs up. Like it. Comment below if you have any topics or anything you want us to cover coming up. We went over gimmicks and scams. Shitty pieces of crap, like the shake weight and things in the world. But I'd like to go over what's like an exercise that you deem useless or you just absolutely hate or a piece of equipment that's a real piece of equipment that absolutely sucks. And mine's kind of in between what I got. I can start it out if you guys. You start it out. So what I hate is when dudes don't understand how gravity works and they're trying to. And this is like the most common bro thing ever is they start to try to warm up the rotator cuff before they do hit some bench, which you probably don't even really need to do. But beside the point, it's not a muscle either. And when they'll grab, they'll grab, they'll grab weights and they'll just be flopping around in directions that like gravity ain't working. Yeah. Where if you want resistance to actually warm up your shoulder, you would use a cable or a band to do external rotation and internal rotation. But they're doing both those things with gravity that's going downwards and mostly working their front delt in their bicep. With having a five pound plate. Right. Yeah, yeah, or some dudes will try to like overload it. They'll start grabbing a quarter and just be smashed. So this one, you're working against gravity. Right. So I'm rotating my. But even still, you'd probably be better off with a band or a cable because once you get to a certain degree. Well, the accommodation makes a lot more sense using a band. But they're just shaking these things around basically lightly warming up their bicep doing nothing. Yeah. I mean, this isn't. And that's Dan, actually. That's shot to Dan. Is it? Yeah, you've done it, dude. It's a football thing. Everybody does it. Why you said, for me, it was because I had two shoulder surgeries. I know, but you didn't hear this point of my story then. I did say warming up your shoulders a bad idea. That's not what my point of my story is. Well, for me, I would I think one of my biggest pet peeves seeing people do, obviously, is the infamous using a squat rack to literally do anything unrelated to. Those things don't bug me at all. That doesn't bug you. Not at all. And I've had gotten fights on the internet about it. Where am I supposed to curl then to curl rack? There's no such thing. If no one's squatting, I think you use a rack for whatever the hell you want. And then we have enough racks that people can curl if they need to. But like that, a location of where there's like one rack. And if someone's squatting there, don't kick them out to do biceps. But if no one's using it, go fucking curl in there. I'm paying the same membership you are. But you can shoulder press there, but you can't curl. Right. See? You can do anything in there. That's the point of a squat rack. And then if you're in a gym with only one squat rack, get the hell out of that gym. Yeah, that's a bad gym. Yeah, bad gym. Shit gym. Bad gym. Shit gym. I love curling in there. Triceps bench. I don't give a fuck though. I don't know. I wouldn't say anything typically. I wouldn't say exercise related, but I would say like there's gym pet peeves that like. Yeah. That that that I definitely have. I remember that's low on my totem pool of unspoken rules. Yeah. Yeah, I think it became like an internet meme. Yeah. More than it's a real thing. How often do you actually see that? I would say another one that I used to get yelled at for. I know this is a I would get yelled at for not assisting either on rack or rack weights. Yeah, that's a pet peeve that belongs. Yes. That's high on the totem pool. No, when I was younger, I just like I didn't. But then I got yelled at enough time. So we're like now it's religious. It's like in my brain. Yeah. Kyle told me you're a big me guy. Yeah. I guy. Wasn't I guy? Me guy. I didn't say I guy. I didn't say that, but I love you, dude. I would never say that. But I think number one, it's not only bullshit, but everybody does it in the in the sports world, not just I mean, the lifting world. They kind of do because they watch sport. People do it. Yeah. Is the uneven balanced surface. Shit. The bozu balls, the foam shit. We're like, yeah, I'm going to be on this foam thing. That's kind of like uneven. So like, where are you, bro? You on Mars? Like, you know, you're on earth. Like you have a flat surface where you when you're playing baseball, you're not playing on fucking hills, dude. Yeah, you're playing on dirt because all these pussies watching the show got mad when I ripped on chiropractors because I'm making an entertainment show. And they're like, you just talked to 160,000 subscribers with false information. That's because I was doing education or sorry, not doing education. But if you want education here, you dumb bitches, which I've done for 12 years. The best way to get more stable in any plane is to become stronger in that plane, not to train on an unstable surface. Yeah. However, if you're rehabbing an ankle injury, there's some applications in rehab. Sure. For sure. But we can find an application. Direct correlation to like strength. We can find an application for anything if we're going with an ankle like the one person. They could grab your ankle like this and go, all right, fight against my ankle. No, what I'm saying, they do. Yeah, I don't know. No, there is some application for both two balls, for sure. But there's an application, there's a tool for every need and there's a need for every tool. I'm talking like the broad scope calls one billion percent right. Just get stronger, you idiots. Because I had to use it every day. And I was like, bro, this sucks. Like, why am I doing this? Like, just stupid ass exercise on it. I'm like, someone's going to fall. And then when they flip the ball over and you're on the flat part, but then the ball's underneath, it's like, dude. Happened here was a big deal. 2001-ish or something. Francisco Garcia is starting a shooting guard for the Kings was doing not even that heavy, like 40-pound dumbbell bench press on one of those yoga balls. Ball exploded because it broke a shooting wrist. Oh, starter in the NBA. Yeah, why would they, what's the point? It's a really bad idea. I don't understand the ball thing. Yeah, I was like, okay. They don't understand it either. Well, yeah. This was going to be controversial, but I'm going to say it anyway. We do not have a reverse hyper in this building. I'm with you. Because most people don't use them and 50% of the people who do use them do not use them correctly. They load too much weight on them and they rely on momentum to keep the pendulum swinging as opposed to actually activating their posterior chain. I mean, they're great. Like I would use one if we had one, but I wouldn't want to dedicate the money or the floor space to one because most people are not going to use it right. I mean, absolutely it's helped by lower back at different times to use one, but I don't think that they're the most critical thing in the world and they take up a lot of space and they're always covered with people's fucking protein shake shit or their pre-workout shit or whatever and they've got shaker cups on them all the time. And they're just a mess. Yeah, as a strength coach, I think they're highly overrated. They definitely have some tools and some uses for them, but there's a million ways you can change your posterior. It's definitely like a luxury piece. And then two, as a business owner, I think it's way overrated because it's taken up not only the square foot of how big the machine is, how expensive, like you said, but then you'll have to leave enough room that you can kick six feet behind. That's all I'm gonna say. You gotta swing your legs out now too. And then loading it's a bitch, unloading it's a bitch. Like it's not a very convenient piece. I have one that might be a little controversial. Hey, dude, let him rip. What do we feel about the leg press? Dan hates leg press. I think. I like leg press. Okay, hear me out. We see constantly these videos of gym bros throwing every 45 pound plate in the gym. And a whole cheerleader squat. And a whole, it's like, I'm gonna put 2,000 pounds of leg press on there. That's my issue is in, especially in commercial gyms, where you see these individuals, literally I'm every 45 pound plate in the gym and we'll do a leg press. I'll back you up if we agree. I don't like when you publicly quantify a lift that isn't a standardized lift. So like a leg press, you can't say you got a 2,000 pound leg press, because each leg press levers are different. Like on this life fitness one, you might be able to do 2,000. But on this rogue one, you'll be able to do 200. Change of degrees, like 10 degrees, it's gonna change the table. For how greasy it is, like there's a million factors same with the cable. Cables, there's a million different pulley setups and you can kinda start to quantify if you know the pulleys and you wanna get in all these like physics and shit, but don't have your own personal PR if you're using the same machine so you can add reps, add weight and progressively overload. But if you're putting it on the Instagram that you got a 2,000 pound leg press bend over and fuck yourself. Yeah, literally, yeah. That's my number one thing is like, and especially posting something like that too is just like ridiculous. But the leg press in general is a fine tool, I think. Those gym fail videos that you see people's knees failing. Oh, dude. Where they flattened, they stick their legs in. Oh my God. It's not like this completely. But that person's got more issues than that leg press. Like you should be able to stand there with that weight and your knee not collapse backwards. I mean, this is, yeah. Exactly. Yeah, you should be okay. This is strictly content creators, but like, you know, where they'll do every single play and then throw like chicks on it and then like. Oh, you don't like chicks, huh? More weights on top of it that are unhinged. Oh, so you're throwing shots of Tom Callis on, right? Don't shoot at any damn Tom Callis, dude. Dan's coming for you, bro. Did that name even relevant? You didn't have to say we heard it though. He just got you Tommy. I see, I see. But I think a very underrated machine next to the leg press. I like a hack squat a lot. No, all those are great. I love the hack squat. That's the one where it's connected. It's like on your shoulders kind of. Yeah, you're kind of in a stable like position. I used to do that at the YMCA. I do like that one. I like that one a lot. The only negative of all those as a business owner is that they have one function. They carry a big footprint where like a squat rack, like I said, joking but not. Like you can literally do everything in a squat rack. There's people that do it here. Belt squat. Belt squat's great. Even a belt squat does, it popped in my head. Like the footprint's fucking huge, but you can do more than just squat on it. Where a leg press, sure, some IFBB dudes do shoulder press on it, but you ain't really doing that. Yeah, nobody's going to that kind of trouble. That's like, it's crazy. Wasting it all. But yeah, I don't know. I can't really think of other like machines in general. I mean, let's think about like bodybuilders. A lot of bodybuilding machines that are pretty useless. People just, what I don't like that people mind is when you think that your muscle is so like intelligent on its own and you're taking a machine and doing the machine incorrectly, thinking that you're going to activate something more correctly. Oh, they're doing it like sideways and sitting down. Yeah, just all this shit. I'm like, dude, like your muscle doesn't know what you're doing. Like it knows stimulus or not, it knows range of motion or not, and that's it. Yeah, girls backwards on the hit machine. I have that one. I call it the yes, no machine. Yeah, yes, no machine. Exactly, yeah. That's called a good girl, bad girl. That one, I think is the most useless machine on a machine. No, they're fine. Why do you love it? Because of my hips. They're fine. They're fine, they're fine. Just don't use it. Don't use it backwards and they're fine. And part of the thing that we're getting to here is that like these are assistance moves. Yeah, yeah. This is not a max effort thing. And none of these things are a max effort. Well, that's the bigger issue of the bigger topic is that people only will go in the gym and only do that. Yeah. Would you ever program bodybuilding machines in like reps and sets and RPE and shit? RPE and more particularly. Oh, really? Yeah, 100%. 100%. Yeah, because a big thing on hypertrophy, you guys want to get educated because you guys are being dicks. Biggest thing on hypertrophy and bodybuilding is like how close you get to failure and that stimulus matters most and then volume and then progressing over time. So if we take a leg press, I would say like choose a weight and get to an RPE-8 and then next week, add a little bit of weight and also get to an RPE-9 or keep that same weight and get more reps next week. And then you just progress my way. Leg press, bicep curl, whatever. I think the title of this one should be Why Chiropractors Suck Even More Than I Thought. Yeah. Suck it, comments. Yeah. Why They're Even Worse. Yeah, dude.