 Welcome to the 1878 FM podcast episode 22. Yes, I sound a bit more upbeat because Everton Football Club won a game They did what Essentially you're supposed to do which is win sometimes when you play football And it's exactly what we did do. We have got a full the full Amigos the four amigos are back together. The bush is back with us. Mr. Bush or I am bush. That's my name How are you? How are you good? I believe for the last time I spoke to you guys you prank called me when I was at the train station Well, I think prank call is wrong because that would imply that it wasn't intended the thing was we were Running out of material would be the wrong negative way of saying but we were we were freestyling. We were jamming mr. Bush You know, you know, we we needed something to jam on Which is the phrase in Spanish for ham We we got in touch with you and you picked up and you actually you gave us a happy ending to the episode Lovely phrase. Thanks, Dave It's over there you go. There's a seamless link there Mr. Mr. Bitty as always with us ever present being with Howard Howard Donald Howard Donald is is this week's guest on our fueling around Award-winning fueling around there you go Celebrity Petal heads podcast release this morning available in all good cod venues and even some bad ones There you go. There's the link for you nice little plug for you Let's get into everton because obviously everton won at the weekend. It was Sean Dyche I've been I've been informed that I say his name Dyche. No, is it? Sean Dyche's first game it was very much it felt rather Very much like a David Moyes type everton performance for me And resulted in quite often a David Moyes type result against those kind of teams at Goddison Park But a big win mr. Bush a big win for Evan Wasn't it amazing? No, isn't it amazing the difference it's been such a long time since we've won I've forgotten how it just changes a weekend fundamentally I was like, you know, you bit where you like clean in or doing stuff in the kitchen closing the kitchen drawer with your Barman dancing. Oh That's but the series link back onto match of the day because I turned it off cause I wasn't watching it Yeah, yeah, and the weird thing is right, you know, because I've had this thing with mine I've had like a nose cancer like operation and the last time we won a game I hadn't even had the operation yet. That's how long ago it was and now it's on the heels So it shows how how starved of anything good we we have been as Evitonians and I think that the key thing about the game against Arsenal is Instantly, he's he's given us the stuff that we've been pining for which is turning Everton back to being nasty mean Attacking control in a game. I think even during the brief highlights of the Frank Lampard era Even when we won it was more because the opposition couldn't put us away and we managed to get away with it Kind of controlled the game Arsenal you watched match of the day highlights It was mainly us we had some great chances and it could have been more so it was an amazing start to the dyke era Dave But that said were you not like me sitting there watching it thinking we're not gonna win this and Almost I was I was I was at the point where I thought actually do you know what if we come away with a point That will still be brilliant all things considered But just that feeling of relief when when actually we did come away with with all three points. I thought it's fantastic Yeah, it was What we said before it needed to be it was a roll you sleeves up It was a fight, you know, and it was intense and it was effort from everybody And that is the only thing that is gonna get us over the line if indeed we do get over the line and and that's far from Far from a given as we well know it did also remind me though in fairness to Frank And and we didn't have many performances like this But the one that I was saying about the other week the leads performance last February I think it was was very much like that was on Saturday. It was just a blood and thunder scrap all the way through but No, I don't think in any way we were lucky and actually having watched people's Reviews of it and write-ups of it. Evan weren't lucky, you know They they deserved it and actually they played for that win and they stopped Arsenal playing the game that they wanted to play They neutralized them died and obviously done his homework and yeah, it was a thoroughly professional display and Just good to see and I just hope that if we can perform like that in at least 50 to 60 to 70 percent remaining games We give ourselves a chance. I'll put it this way. We've certainly got a play like that at home Absolutely. Yeah spoke to the Robbie from Arsenal fan TV yesterday and she's Very complimentary about everything said it's the first game. He's been to this is being a go-to all against obviously first game He's been to this season where he thought You know what we didn't deserve anything out of that They thought we deserved the victory wasn't the lucky win it what he said He just he said he should have won by more to be honest and well, well, we should have done I mean we could have been three up within exactly Decorate is one I still and Calvin Luen's one on the in the six yard box. I know he missed it Yeah, I mean pet if that's what they've got a rinse and repeat that haven't they really said and seen games to go and try to get You know another what five or six wins But that would be the way that we do it won't it with that f maximum efforts and good structure and all of that stuff Yeah, and that's what you get from this manager, isn't it? I don't think you're gonna get What Frank Lampard did which was a different performance every week because he Frank Well Frank Lampard wanted to play with sort of nice football and Passport out the back and all that Shawn Dyche not gonna do that as he's gonna he's gonna do that every single week Expect those kind of levels every single week, you know, whether it leads to wins or not. We'll have to wait and see but There's too much messing about with Lampard at times He what he wanted to play was not whatever I'm capable of and it led us to a situation where When we had to revert back to some kind of defensive shape it meant five at the back And then you defend it on your six yard line then rather than in the midfield and picking an opposition off No, I think the I think what is the man that of the place is gonna be well more with with with this fella And Really shouldn't take a new manager to do that Frank Lampard should have been able to get that out of the plays himself himself this season he should have understood the situation and he I don't think he quite has and don't think he quite had the experience to do that, but I think Dyche commands a certain level of Respect just because he's been around a long time and what he's done So it was very enjoyable to be there never felt for one minute like we're gonna lose and Even in the sixth the ball went off for six minutes. I was quite confident we'd get over the line Which is the weird thing is though, right that I've come away from that game thinking Maybe we as time goes on and obviously we were kind of like intoxicated with Lampard and his optimism And he's a great guy and you know He saved saved us at the end of last season and never forget that night good to some park and some amazing photos, etc I mean you as time goes on and you have like a look back at the Lampard era How does someone within one week of working with a team get a performance and an organization like that out of a Load of players that clearly weren't prepared to do that for Lampard because you had decor a training on his own Gordon would I'm sure we'll talk about him at some point, you know, not interested They weren't defending like that. They weren't anywhere near as controlled. So, you know I love Frank and I love what he did for us But I mean maybe the kind of factor the matter is in terms of whatever to need Needed right now. He's just not the not the right manager Or maybe just doesn't got the kind of tactical sense for this level I don't mean it sounds really tight to say that but I think maybe he's not a brilliant football manager overall Jameen. Yeah, I think I think maybe with better players who were already established If he could play his football and it might work out, but I think like I just said that it's if You've got a fella who comes in and he feels just by looking I've never spent a second with Sean Dijk I don't know. I don't know what he's like, but he comes across like he's got a presence about him Toughness about him. We're all his press conferences as well Exactly, you know, but an underlying thing that I think is if you're a player And you've got a manager saying this is how we do stuff and this gets results You have to believe what he's saying and it's whether or not Players are very very fickle. This is what you see you see them going along the minute You fall out a couple of them fall out the manager team start to lose games and you know Chelsea I would go back to Chelsea under Merino. He'd won the league with them one year. He had that The fallen out with the female physio and then from then he lost a bit and the end He was 16 to something when he sacked them as champions because he's just through and he just went now Now mate, you've crossed the line and whatever and you see teams do this with managers. They just lose belief in It's like, you know, do this that he stopped running for them and I don't know about you day But that seems to be someone who The players will if he says this is what we do to get out of it. He's got that Or it might be the wrong word But that the meaner about some way and because of his experiences the players are more likely to go like okay And of course they are on the best behavior. It's early early days into a manager's career Yeah, I think I think all of the above to be honest with you, you're right, you know I mean in a in a new managerial era Players start to suddenly fall into line and they all want to be part of the setup and they don't want to see themselves Excluded because this particular management might play a different way or whatever Yeah, I mean, I think Dyches is a noble ship manager and he's respected as such because he's done what he's done for a lot of years And he's very good at it, you know, and and I think that in this Situation that we find ourselves in he is perhaps Exactly what we need. I mean certainly on Saturday's evidence more of those please and we do at least give ourselves a fighting chance, you know very much a fighting chance and back to Lampard for me personally, I just think it was wrong place at the wrong time When you look at it on balance over the over the course of the 12-month period as we reflect now I Like him still, you know, and I'd very you know, I'm still gutted that it didn't work out for him and us together I would have liked it to have done And I wish him all the very best and I do genuinely hope that he finds the right club where he can be a success I just think you know to your point as well paired and we've all said the same thing He was trying to play the wrong sort of football or he was trying to play football that that us as a squad weren't capable of or weren't in a situation To be able to afford to play that kind of football If he were to have an opportunity somewhere else I mean the problem that he has though is that where is that some somewhere else because you know, he's already been at Chelsea He's he's been at Derby early doors. He's been at us Where where is that next club that's going to be a good fit for him for him to play his sort of football? It's difficult to know where that is But I do hope that he gets another chance and yeah, he goes I think with with our with all of our best Wishes. Yeah, absolutely. I mean pet is Again one game means, you know, very little we see in this flank lamp on his first game very impressively against We said for one, but it's nice It's tight rather under underrated in a way because we Not putting them into this bracket But you know Diego Simeone plays a very low block. No bullshit aggressive Football that has broken that has disrupted the best in La Liga it's tight Could Dice be not not that high up in the prime and God's sake just find one pronunciation Whatever's comfortable just go with it. You know, I'm going back to Dice, I think The man of the people I've gone for it. Dice is you know, is he has he got more than what we even Think he's got or do you think he is kind of Almost a firefighter type manager. Oh, I don't know. I don't think he's a firefighter I think he's not there's actually no evidence of him being a firefighter There's a there's the evidence is a guy who went to Bailey and built it up over six seven years got them into Europe And and probably just in the end ran out of ran out of you know time in terms of The resources he had left. I think this is the biggest job he's ever had. Yeah Biggest job you probably ever have and You know when he was last last week why he took the job now he said it because it's ever Can't I think we get lost in it and it people like to tell us that maybe I'm part of the elite Well, we might be part of the elite But it's still pretty big for football and this is a this is a huge job for him And I think this is his chance to I don't think he thinks he's coming in to do a job That's gonna last six months and then like the alibi situation. I think this is like the alibi situation at all I think this guy thinks he can he's at the right age He's got the right amount of experience to take evidence and building into what he wants to building like like mues did And he said that himself and he's got a good opportunity to do that now And I think he's got all the tools and I think we do I think sometimes we do downplay Even if someone gets relegated. I think we downplay what they've done I think Eddie how fell into a similar bracket and I'm the face to say I didn't fancy my evidence But I think there's lots of lots of coaches out there in Europe that we look at who might have similar track records I mean and we give them the benefit of the doubt because they've got a fancy European name or because he coached a You know a fashionable football team You can even look at clop and what he did when he was in Germany before he before he got to Dortmund You know, he got a relegation and stuff like that You got to learn your trade and it doesn't always happen overnight and I think You know, he could be the right man if in the right place at the right time And I think his football might might just suit not only suit our needs But he can grow a little bit in his own personal style again like moisted because my there's an idea that Moses football It's terrible and evidence, but there's periods when it was fantastic Yeah, you kind of rubbish football when you've got the likes of our tether and and and peanut and kale and you know Some of the strikers we had Yeah, so so, you know you get this fella better plays and maybe you'll get better football out of it And I just think he can he can evolve this team from from well Just get it just get us away from the relegation zone and then just hopefully move on from that Do you know I'm on that point about better players and so on it's interesting now because having seen that performance against Arsenal Obviously, I was the same as everyone where we were fuming that that transfer deadline date was an absolute humiliation Wasn't it people actually losing their minds, but we've not seen you since then have we no no this is it So it was just absolutely awful. I thought this is it. We're dead. We're buried. We're absolutely dead and buried But it doesn't make you reappraise what we've got to see suddenly, you know Dwight McNeil playing like how we thought he was gonna play and you know to corey coming back into a nano If we can hold on to him the guy's an absolute dream. Yeah, I mean, we've we've got we've got the raw materials They're not a bad bunch of players. They aren't tight. You know, I mean, so it's you know Maybe some of these kind of mercenaries that we dodged the bullet We might dodge the bullet a little bit with with these guys coming into the team Really, do I mean like some of these people that we are are you and all this kind of stuff that we were linked with we have The last knocking we have been linked very strongly today to Obama young and it's go It's go apparently is in advanced talks and Obama young Chelsea get rid of him ever and they're gonna take him So we'll we'll see if that's a me doesn't sound like an eye. I personally don't see Obama young being a Dish player. No No, no, not at all. Not it's not not enough gold But they're good. They're good enough. I mean, we're definitely like what I mean, are we lacking up front? We probably are lacking up front. Yes, I'm power wise a little bit But I don't know I you know, I think that one of the main and it was only one game But the takeaway from that performance is that that is that's an already know It's a good enough squad of players. We're better than the teams that were kind of rubbing shoulders with them Fortunately at the bottom of the round the bottom of the table at the moment. That's for sure. So Yeah, yeah, yes and no for me. Yeah, I think I think the big worry is If Dominic gets himself cropped which is every chance that he will do anytime soon is That that leaves us woefully short. No, I mean, we we we're woefully short of goals as it is but at least with Dominic there and You know, he was inches away from from that ball last weekend And frustratingly so but when you see him play like that and when you see that kind of service coming in You know that it's only a matter of time and that does at least give you some hope Yeah, if he goes out and as I say he's made a glass for me is is Dominic Albert-Leon anyway, is that you've then leaves you with the shithausery of Mopay, you know, which I mean what what on earth that end of game performance was all about I don't know. I don't know what he was he was trying to achieve But if we are reliant upon that man To get the necessary goals that will see us win games rather than draw or lose games Then I fear for that and I think that if that is the case and this has been mentioned before Is that you know, we might have to start thinking or rather the manager might have to start thinking about Alternative personnel in those forward positions, you know, whether that's putting, you know, Demari Gray That's sent her forward. I mean it was even talk of putting a woby further forward and and and these sort of things, you know Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know what and actually he is like he's certainly more likely to get a chance under The lamp I would suggest. Yeah, I agree. And also what we are one final thing Sorry, we are they're stuck. They're crossing the ball. You can see the blueprint of what he's trying to do So if you are Dominic Calvert-Lewin and you're and it's just not happening for you and it hasn't happened for him for a bit You're looking at the way that we're they're gonna try and play now and you must be thinking Christ I can get on the end of some of these and get things going again But it's here's the thing though. Isn't isn't dice known for traditionally playing 4-4-2 We haven't even got two strikers. Never mind a preferred two. We haven't got two Well, the 4-5 won he played Saturday. I think I mean pet me and pet was talking about this in With those three and then James Garner to come back Don't forget that was Moise's system forever 4-5-1 And it won, you know David Moise had seasons where everyone won 14 home games You know, that's akin to What like Liverpool and City and that have done when they've won the league You know, like they've had slightly more than that But what I mean is that's a lot of homings Moise's issue was Away from home and it was because of similar what we've got now. We didn't have anyone He never really apart from Yacuba Had anyone top class at the end of the pitch who he could rely on. If Moise had had a Lukaku Ever mother won silverware. I think ever may well Have competed for the league title whether they wanted to different thing If we would have had the Romney Lukaku at the top end of the pitch because everything else was good We just never we were never able to go away and put teams to bed because we just didn't have that that Classy centre forward, but Dave, you're right if Dom gets injured We are in trouble. But what I would say like Andy's just said is And it's something me and peds said on the final word Is that we got a lot of balls and bodies into the box. So that's why we had more chances with Whit Lampard It was sporadic. It was Like one attempting that, you know one chance because we have one man in the box Which means every pass has to be perfect or it wasn't an opportunity and that's maybe maybe How deal combat it and also they've got to come up with other goals as well We saw Saturday the centre backs corner winner. That has to be the case now We have to get goals from a woby. You just mentioned the core. He's got to score But Cody and Tarks and all these people have all got a wade in with with goals, you know shameless They've all they've all got to give something because that is the only way that we are Going to get the amount of goals that we need and it's a tall order, you know, but you're right You know, we don't have we don't have a prolific striker in any sense of the word But it'd be interesting to see sometimes when teams are doing really badly There's a lot of people Out with injuries and you know thinking that they're not don't quite feel right to play and all that kind of stuff On the atmosphere is toxic It'll be interesting to see that Visio backlog clear out a little bit once we're suddenly, you know, if we do start winning some games You know, it always goes hands in hand hand in hand, you know Bad performance runner bad games toxic atmosphere suddenly players are out injured for ages So, you know, we still got some good players to come back as well. Do you know, I mean, you know I mean, you know, there's goals in Townsend at least that is one that's one thing that's that's that's promising Definitely goals in him if we if we use him correctly and we get him fit again. Definitely Can I pet Just moving just on from the footy because this is a this is a story again MSP sports capital Very interested in investing in Everton Apparently two places on the board, isn't it? Yeah three ways on the board, but apparently now there's there's a You've got a couple of competitors who are They're trying to get involved as well Um, this is something that's got to happen pet surely sooner rather than later because we are we do feel like We're stuck a little bit in terms of us move, you know There's obviously the protests and stuff and we saw big protests at the weekend before they're getting peaceful Really well attended then into the ground support the team But because of the situation with the board And with Farad Mishiri It feels as though with Everton could get some investments into it and if it was MSP and they did take a couple of places on the board Is that a way that Is that a way that people might look and reassess the situation just right now and think well The owner is getting investments in and actually these may be Someone who we want to take over fully from Farad Mishiri I think a big starting point wouldn't it be an opportunity to get some fresh blood on the board get some new voices get some new ideas The the the finance I imagine we go towards, you know finishing the stadium off um, which in turn might mean obviously Either which way it doesn't matter which way it goes. It would mean probably more money in the summer A little bit freed up for whatever whatever positioning um, and then maybe they'll allow some people to walk away from the board who For whatever reason haven't done and and you know, they haven't been there. They weren't there on satay I don't think anyone really you know welcomes them back as such um, because it helps I think it helps the atmosphere if they're not there um these people seem to have The right expertise the right experience through their years of of uh, not just finance but uh being sports agents in america and and and and you know I think it's it's very hard to you can't sit here anymore and go We'd love that guy or we'd love that guy to come into our club and I don't think those people quite exist Everyone will find faults With everybody who anyone who tries to buy a club now. There's always going to be some shady link to somebody and You know, we've seen with the city stuff what this week You know what can happen. Um, I mean not that they're the wrong people, but you know, you These those these seem fine I mean, that's probably the only thing I can say these seem fine They seem to know these seem to know what they're doing and maybe it would just be really nice Some people who know what they're doing and know how to open up new revenue streams in in football We are still years behind everybody else. Um, so I mean fact someone made a brilliant Little brilliant post yesterday saying, um, I think it was on our live show with new gombas. Yeah, and he said he said They knew they knew they knew that the story about the everton kit man Going to sports direct was bullshit because everton because sports direct don't sell any everton stuff And I've won that Did you hear about this story boys? Yeah, yeah, he sent someone down to sports direct, didn't he? But I didn't I didn't I didn't read what it was that he was like was missing. Basically. Basically. There was no socks John dishe wanted Everton to train once the players to train which with socks and shim pads Right in training because obviously you can you can get injured on all that And everton didn't have enough of those type of training socks apart. Jesus Yeah, exactly. So He sent one of the kit men to sports direct to go and buy 30 pairs of socks that or whatever however many it was enough Um, you can get 30 pairs of socks for about $2.99. There you go And a massive mug as well. Yeah, my mom gets me stuff like that for Christmas. There you go Uh Um And that's one of the things he's obviously implemented is basically Uh, you train as you play you have your shinies on you have your socks pulled up And and that's there's the first habit, but just that idea of sending into sports direct is tremendous And only us and only ever but that would be obviously Um, you know, there is one of those things but you know msp Invest from coming in next a couple of places on the board more socks just very more socks would be the first thing Very quick before we move on boys A new investment Uh group coming in Some fresh eyes on the whole thing and maybe a couple of places on the board Do you to see that as a positive thing of of because everton You know about the protest, you know that everton's on happy with the way the club has been Under mishiri it's coming across isn't it, you know when these people come it is coming across. Yeah It's out there now These people coming in you do have experience of being in sports clubs and things like that that can only be a positive surely Here's what I think. Um, is that I think like ped said, I think it's a start and I think it's better than what we have at the moment I think the reason I find it difficult to get excited about it is the fact that I want wholesale change And rather than gradual change or you know, this board that's made up of him her two of them Their mates invest, you know and all this kind of stuff that may or may not happen over the next year or something Suddenly two places becomes three or four, but ultimately If this new investment If these people rather don't have the ultimate final say It's difficult to see how things will will probably change. Maybe maybe I'm maybe I'm asking for too much because as we said before for me And whoever thought we'd be saying this But you know new castle is the is the is the example new castle is the template in terms of what has happened to them and And the effect that it's had on that football club, which is is is been a complete turnaround And that's what I want and that's what I think we need however, um, I think that if it is a case of of gradual change and you know Some investment is better than no investment and two places on the board is better than no places on the board Then then yes, you know, this can only be a good thing. I suppose Andy yeah, I mean I was I was Whenever I have I've had anything to do with Everton football club or have been kind of behind the scenes there a little bit You do still get the vibe of like, uh I don't mean in a bad way But a club that's slightly in one of the lower divisions like it's just it's exactly the same behind the scenes at Everton Old-fashioned when it is this really old fashioned really and you look at some of the new I know it's a stadium difference and stuff as well But it's also the way that they market themselves and the way that they they're on like the global scale You know as ped mentioned earlier on we need we need someone that cut to come that's going to come in and maybe Open the doors to you know We've got loads of fans over in america and all that kind of stuff But we'd be still a run like like family small club mentality a little bit and we need that expertise So yeah, they won't be able to overturn kind of like we say numbers wise The people that are kind of haven't been great for us over the years But surely some fresh ideas can just shake things up a little bit and freshen things up. That's what we need Do you remember this this this was never demonstrated better for me than during the chang sponsorship era Where when you went for a beer at half time You queued up right outside the toilets and this is this is this is me in this is me in the bullens road and Which in itself is is a is a rickety old stand anyway And you've got these two old dears who've got like a case of chang in cans behind You know and so they're having to they're having to sort of pour out But you know, but obviously the can of chang would all fizz off and then you had everybody had to wait about five minutes While this old deer kind of got this right and you you just thought this is just ever an all over You know you see these new stadiums with these fancy pumps and blah blah blah You've got you know doris there who's kind of pouring this You know i'll be there in a minute love you do you want to twix as well, you know Funny you said there was no mars bars at the weekend, so I did after that Revenue wise though. I mean, I know it's the stadium thing But like even what people have access to at half time or before the match or you know Because I think we've mentioned this before like you don't want to go And into goodison any earlier than kickoff really because there's nothing doing for you there Do you know what I mean? Whereas hopefully with this stuff in the future They can just make I don't make a bit more money a bit more of a of a business about it But like you say we just need to It's rather spent week me and pet have done this to death, but you'd rather spend your money Benefit in the football club, but like you say Andy and Dave the same it's like If you're gonna have to wait, you know 10 minutes to get a beer or you or I stay in the spellow until 10 to yeah, but there you go. There you go. Anyway, let's By the way, I'm up for the leaves game if you're around fantastic Fantastic, we will we'll sort that out. Um I was gonna say yeah, let's move on from footy. You've done footy far too much there We go Dave. We're gonna have a slot each week called Dave's archives, I think because Ped just keeps sending us interest in photos of you know, I could wait in my stomach He demonstrated last night. I'm great. Exactly I don't work I don't work hard. I work smart. He does work smart In the WhatsApp group there's a he's come across photos. I mean one of them He's put has bullets face on in the group as well. Which is incredible, but um I just want to know why you with David Seaman Frankie who obviously off dancing on ice is David Seaman's partner, you know and all that But you've got a tennis outfit on so I can't even pass it off as you felt like you were going ice skating Or you were having a game of footy with David Seaman. You've you've gone full Bjorn Borg. You've got the headband on So can you explain what? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No happily. Okay. Um, so this this happened In about 2018. I was working on the radio in Manchester at the time on the hits radio doing the breakfast show With jem Rackinson and geth in jones and for some reason and I'm not entirely sure why That became something of a dare or a challenge or something that I had to I can't remember what the backstory was In truth, but I I was challenged on air by them That I had to dress up and I had mistakenly said That uh, David and Frankie Seaman were coming over to ours for dinner on the Saturday night Clang And so so they they said right well, that's what you that's what you need to do and we need to see photo evidence of said Encounter and that essentially is the photo evidence that they required and that I duly delivered Fair enough. It's tremendous. It's a tremendous story. It's a you do look like a pro to be fair today He looks like a pro tennis player from 70s 80s era I think just by don and that stuff you become England's number seven seed. Yeah, just by You know, you look like you're about to have a game with cliff richard Well, I don't even know what that means. Is that code pet? No, no, no, that can't be code this early. Yeah Andy before we move on you you were obviously absent again Um, last week. Hey, listen, you're the busy man. I get it. I get it commuting, mate What's happened is we've we've fully ditched you We've you've been someone who's been on the treatment table regularly because you just you know, maybe the last man's You know, Ned's Ned's tactics when shooting yet and we've become very andross towns then that's Yeah, you know, I was talking you're backing. Um, we fair to Andy though. He has to get into setup is nine different He does radio station Exactly. I want to come back to that because there's there's we have got a question about that But um last week we were discussing um whether it was more likely that The moon landed in 1969 Or The arc nowhere on his arc. Oh, yeah, which is more likely to have happened. We had a big discussion I don't believe what the hell what the hell happened in last week's episode if this was one of the topics This is the way it's going on. You better get on board young man. Yeah Otherwise you'll be going to sports direct for the socks And it's not turned into a conspiracy theory podcast though. Is it like we're gonna get some shell suits and stuff Listen, bits of it may well be all right. You better get on board very quickly as Barry Ike over there. There you go Oh, what a man. He is by the way one minute. He's presenting snooker the next minute He's the son of god incredible, but um, let's go back to that. So non-gender god non-gender god. Yeah We had the um We had a good discussion of you know, whether we believe these things happened on which were more likely There was a couple of issues around The the two by two on the arc As we discussed if you know two elephants are going on who's stopping the third and fourth Because they're quite big. You can't you know, your name's not down. You can't come on I don't know all that with the way that's an issue for me You think in terms of the whole arc thing embarkation of animals is the thing that could make it I think we did we did also discuss, you know nails In them I think I think I think the point you caught the nails. Didn't you Dave? You said there was a practicalities issue here in that Because obviously Noah's arc happened a very very long time ago as you'll know. I mean long long time Like long long time And so unless before records began Yeah, I think I think so and so because Noah He was very much kind of isolated and on his own in this kind of mission And it's it's very much a sort of solo project for the most part unless he had a little bit of help from his friends and family But we were saying that he would have had to have lived very very close to a large area of dense woodland In order to get the right amount of wood unless he had something like adductions in his area Which we believe at the time would have been impractical. Yeah I mean it is intimidating. You've ever been to like a like a timber place It's just a general member of the public. Yes, awful. They treat you like dirt there because you're not in the trade I can't blame no if you wanted to try and cut trees down himself or whatever But that is that's a good point. So you think because he may have gone to one of the, you know, it might have been I don't know Balthasar's yard or something, you know with notations. I don't think might have been there It could have been anything. Couldn't it, you know any kind of name and he's gone in and they've looked at him and gone I mean a paraphrasing, but he's gone. All right Because I wasn't there. Well, there you go, you know exactly and he's gone, you know All right, go for your after and he's gone. I'm thinking of building a big boat What type of wood do you want and he's gone? I don't know, you know, and he just he's done that thing where he just I'm coming. Yeah Self-tapping screws. Yeah, what do you need exactly, you know, and all of that. So he's just gone alone So so with all that information Yeah Versus shadows on the moon wind when there isn't any Tim foil that thing that landed I've seen more Um, I've seen things on thunderbirds that look more likely spaceships to land than what? You know, 1969 moon landings way Right, so zero evidence he went Which do you think is more likely to have happened Noah's Ark or the moon landings? Just very quickly And honestly, right even even though we've been on this sort of descriptive Colouring in session for the last four or five minutes. It's still that question bush It's still the question that you didn't think you were being asked five minutes I never thought this was happening this podcast, but I'm willing to answer it. I think the moon landings happen I'm gonna go I think okay. That's fine. But you're wrong. But that's fine Who just in terms of this group of four put your hand up. Do you think the moon landings happened? So bush has got his hand there Well, I'd say so right so is any bars who believes that the If I had to be pushed one way or the other That's fine. That's a listen. I've got no problem that and you know, we won't go into That belt that's round the thing that would smash those Spaceships into smithereens when it got through it. We won't go into that and they they couldn't protect No, it is mason you got to go through honestly, I've been reading since last week. I've been reading even more I'm gonna get the behind bars there. You should get a tie-dye take me to your dealer Get on the bong next week start doing conspiracy theories, but so you're going with the moon land. That's fine. Listen, that is fine. Um Someone Well, why are you doing doing that because this is as I say, this is the kind of the freeform jazz section Yeah, yeah episode where we can kind of just do stuff as and when willy and indeed nearly Um, so mr. Bush, you were saying before we started recording. I'm sorry. I'm late In fact, I'm gonna I'm gonna quote you or paraphrase you. I'm sorry. I'm late. I have just come from a spin class Right, that's right. Yes. Now. I don't mean to be in any way controversial Or to be the sort of person that may throw out sweeping and generalized statements But I thought that spin class was essentially for girls Dave that's that's a very un un reconstructed Opinion of spin spinning modern spinning it's it's good. It's it's hard work. I tell you it's hard work I know you I know Dave you're out there. You you're out on your bike meeting other like meant like minded people in car parks, right? The paddleboarding expert of you know, yeah, exactly with his animal mask Was it an elephant one was it too Dave or is the three it's three elephants The elephant elephant mask isn't good for cycling because it's not very aerodynamic because of the Can't you get more air in the trunk though? Well, you may well, maybe you know, again, I don't know what that means now Dave was sends a great scene down there on thursday and friday night Bye Andy we've had a question from scoutsman blue That says I'd like to know how Bush on the radio can explain his various whereabouts on all pictures shared on twitter. Is there more than one bush? There's a lot of bushelike stuff going on basically I'm getting to the stage now where if anyone's got classes on tv or in film I'm getting linked with it and it's just it's outrageous I'm I'm I sound outrageous. So I'm starting to uh Do I look like you know Dave a Dave look, you know what? There's a reason I've never seen them. No, I've never seen the bit like that. I think yeah I think Andy it's time to launch your own Um, I wear that would be a good thing, wouldn't it? I think so What could we could what could we call them like? Here we go. Um bush eyes Bush gigs Bush bins Yeah, bush bins is quite nice, isn't it? Dave you get a chain on those glasses though. I see you with a chain on those Do you know and actually that is exactly what they're for because they these are now for that state of life Where you need them to look at things because my arms have now become isn't that what glasses are for anyone? I mean, yeah, I mean, you've not just been right glasses That's kind of the idea behind glasses No, hang on. But but what I'm trying to say is that you see I wear I wear contact lenses as well and that's for Distance, okay? So these are effectively magnifying Glasses because I find that I struggle with with menus or even looking at my phone now Things that are close up because my arms aren't long enough to take that thing away from my eyes Um, okay, well, that's all right. So bushes blaming your eyes your eye issues on your arms on his arm length I mean, there you go We've had one this is an interesting one. You're gonna have to think about this, right? This is from PD FC 84 I think I think I think pedal want to go first here That sounds like a code you get for a 15% off somewhere, right? You ready? List these 80s cartoons in order of your preference Thunder cats he man turtles Ghostbusters dungeons and dragons. They were all shit Whoa, do you want to come on? I'll be honest Dave What are you going for? Uh, I'm gonna go for just right the best one and the way from the cat he man Okay, and you know what dungeons and dragons was it was a classic that's what I'd go for that was brilliant It was it was an underrated class and it actually had some really famous people doing the voices Okay, but uh, it was it was very it was a bit dark as well. It's a little bit dark I'm going blue one up. I'm going the tails tails was good as well. That was obviously late 80s. I'm spoiling my vote Okay, that's fine. Listen That is fine But all of this program all every great cartoon from that era ruined by annoying comedy character Godzilla brilliant godzuki shithouse Uh, uh, dungeon dragon is brilliant scrappy doo shithouse. Dungeons and Dragons brilliant. You need the unicorn shithouse He man fantastic. He man's brilliant Do you know do you know when all of those characters are a little bit Neil Mopay at the end of that Don't you think Uh, pet is one from Neil's button end up in 13 What is the sport that has that the best movies based on it and he's put and why is it baseball? Is that true all the best sporting movies? By the way, all golf Golfs are real is really good for adapting to for films baseball Obviously field of dreams is maybe one of the greatest sports films I'm also a Moneyball Yeah Draft day draft day is amazing, but that's not baseball And then you've got like for golf you've got like tink up which is amazing again. Kevin Costner Kevin Costner's done field of dreams. He's done draft day He's done tink up Yeah Yes I don't think there's enough swimming films The Duncan Goodhue story or something like that would be good, wouldn't it Sharon Davis Why I don't have bush George will be interesting. Well, you know you say that Because because surely that's that's something that the swimmers Do they do they don't have Aerodynamic aerodynamics There you go unless bush is married to a swimmer and then she would literally have bush Baseballs perfect though is because it's all broken up into like small pieces. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah field of dreams is amazing though I don't have anyone. I don't know if anyone knows this, but for the last for two of the last four years the MLB in America have done a field of dreams game where they've gone to Iowa built a stadium on a cornfield And they have the players walk out the out of the corn and honest to God here is sparring like Kevin Costner does like the There's like the voice over for it. It's unbelievable. Like it sounds dead cringy, but I watched it live it was it was obviously on really late here and When they pull back and show like the faraway shot and you see nothing but fields for miles and the sun's going down It is unbelievable. I absolutely love that film Recommend as well the the ken burns history of baseball documentary on pbs You know, he's the one who did the vietnam history of the vietnam war Absolutely brilliant really really good like five part are right the way through the history of baseball really good I tell you what's another one another good baseball film a league of their own What about the women's baseball players? Yeah, boss. It's just really boring in real life. Yeah, that's good for films Shane pelican He's still waiting Shane pelican Well, guys say this this is on twitter. Obviously. He's still waiting on the live air Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. You know, I can understand when people will change their surname to be more jazzy Right, you know and to be more showbiz. Yeah, why don't you change your your surname? You know pelican um Maybe like the pelican brief his favorite film. Yeah, anyway, what's his question? Mate, you never know. Do you know he's waiting on the live air frying? Oh That's still to come so there's like Kangaroo court. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's gotta come bus. He's gotta face his destiny um You two have gotta come up with a but I don't know Andy you were in here last week So deadline day, we were live basically for about 12 hours on deadline day and evident didn't do that How did that pan out for you? Yeah Everton Back to you in the studio. Yeah, that was it. It was just sat there So ever didn't do anything so we came up with or someone asked us for our best bold everton 11 Oh, wow, that's a great. That's a great question. But he can't be He can't have had here and lost it at evident. They basically had to be bold So every on straight away when gravison carsly, we were like, well gravison actually had here when he came Not much though. No Bold bold i'm talking cubal Ish I'm not talking how a kindle, you know egg in the nest stuff Or No, no, but this is for this is for bus to think about And Dave because I want next week a bold 11 off both of them Ian Wilson, do you remember Ian Wilson? Did he? He was losing it But he had here. Andy Johnson is one for you. It's him out. One at either end Yeah, okay, so that's Olivia. I don't know. Um, what was the guy? Yeah, Olivia This could be our new segment called, um No hair but two in the bush It's a rough working title, but I'll go with that. Yeah, you know, it's loose Yeah, wait All bold and no bush That's I mean, that's it. There's one. I'm not offering anything for No, okay distancing himself. Okay. Okay. Listen. It's just it's not my style. No, Dave You're above this you are above this, but we're not um, so yeah, that was one Someone has asked us and obviously Again, this may be something we do next week the best player to wear each number one two eleven So no squad numbers That's an interesting one. Well, that's that's another homework one. Is that it? No, it's always that can never be done now Yeah, I mean, because do you know why because it would it would disrupt our natural pace and rhythm that we have in this podcast I'm with with cotton thrust We're two minutes ago. We can't start thinking about Players like nevel south or garrie steve. I mean, it's basically the 85 team But there you go. We've just done it. Um, but that could be up for discussion So we can also feature called no smoke without fire where we every week We get to have our say on ongoing court cases and stuff like that as well. That'd be kind of cool Yeah, I mean traditionally, you know discussing ongoing court cases is normally is normally, you know, something that people try and steer away from Oh, yeah, I mean that sounds like a minefield to Because a court case andy We be Go wrong What happened what could possibly go wrong? I just can I just go back to something just the top finish this off go on when we got we went when andy was someone's Spinning class we sort of glossed over it very quickly. Yeah, but did actually don't you know Like spinning classes. Did they happen at like only like five o'clock in the morning? Yeah, because when you see people saying I've gone spinning it only seems to be a five o'clock in the morning Is there no other legitimate time you can go we will discuss that andy? I just want to know this because this when I think it's spinning. I just think of ariana grande I've you know been here all day all night. Are you at the front with your thong on wiggle in the arse? Yeah, what's you wear? This was gonna be my next point is What do you wear? What do you wear and does ariana grande play in the back? So he's got loose fit and trousers shorts and leggings see I thought the leggings as well Got leggings on. Yeah. They're all the rage. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I wanted to go to but I'm I'm slightly intimidated by those places Well, I see this is it. Are you gonna think I'm an absolute tosser now, but um, we have a peloton So I do it from the house I'm one of those Come on guys. I've done well in the lockdown Episode finish Terrible way to finish. I had you at the front day full ariana grande Surrounded by yummy mummies who'd all parked a four by fours Here comes bush bansoning. Sorry to let you down the only bush in the room Everyone's there on the bike. You're burning extra amount of calories ariana's playing It's at 6 30 in the morning. You're getting back to have your juice and a bit of I had I feel like frank. I've lost I've lost the dressing room You have lost the dressing room. I mean listen, can I just propose that we bring forward that court issue? Maybe like maybe next week or the week before it's getting to the point where I think that almost bush's relationship with us is untenable We've got to pull us back into line quickly I was loving the idea of him coming out of the spin class at like half five in the morning going The day's all mine. Oh My Next they'll have an instagram account telling you're out to make money this year. All right, all right He'll be attacking the day like film level Bush crypto will call it bush crypto. Yeah, listen, you know Because I've always thought right and again, I don't want this to be a statement I've always thought the peloton was for tosses as well. Yeah, right. So, you know, that's That's what I am. This is where I am. No, I don't think you are Don't let them track it into it. I don't have time to to go to a class So you can nip in and just do a little half an hour 45 minutes Do you dial into something or is it in the bike? Is it just in the bike? Yeah, you can go to live classes You can you can pick up classes that have previously happened Look at your own performance against how you did it last time. Okay. I mean, I've lost I feel like I've lost everyone here No, that sounds quite good, but you've pelotoned yourself off really Maybe you need to change your name to shame peloton. Yeah, okay. I'll do that. You know, that might be the one I feel bad like this is how is this how it's going to end then? Is anyone got enough beat notes to finish on? No, I should be honest with you. It's over for me now. Is it? Pad, do you normally come up with a pale of wisdom? I can't think of anything. No I'm just I just disappointed because you can't like, you know, stick a cart and drinking your back tire Can you pretend you're a motorbike if it's a peloton on your house? You just can't do that There you go. Yeah, I did that I used to watch kickstart and then it's to do that That probably that possibly shows my age They can't do that either because it disrupts the people in the car park in morrisons Give them a start And to finish then I've seen something disturbing that On your show next week You're gonna cut the air fryer thing which Perth promised us about Yeah, Frank. In fact, Benitez was probably the manager and Perth promised us that A roast dinner type of What toasties? So a listener has has phoned in. Well, we do a thing called Toasty Tuesday Where we do we try out a different toasted with that something that you came up with bush on just on your own Without another podcast that you don't know Okay, carry on All right guys. All right There's a barb down to this podcast. All right, let's just let's just chill it out Come on. Listener has got in touch and he has recommended a roast like a roast dinner Toasty so you put the constituent parts of a roast dinner into the sandwich. So Roast chicken stuffing bread sauce. I'm a little bit concerned about that A couple of potatoes carrots and then toast it and see if it works. He reckons it's a winner. How big is your piece of bread though? Yeah, well, you've got to top it up get it in there. Do you know what I mean? But the thing was right and just to prove that I was I was listening when they were discussing Roasty Toasty yesterday actually and I was driving back from Sheffield now the thing that I was slightly Shocked and slightly disappointed about was the fact that your your Caller and an advocate for the Roasty Toasty wasn't going to actually put in the roast potatoes and actually there was no There was there wasn't enough roast wasn't enough Roast yeah action or representation. I didn't think within the bread. Is that fair? No, that's a very good point And I think when we do it, we're going to put we have to have roast potatoes Because I mean we've had some there's one comes a spit roast toast, doesn't it? Yeah, and who wants that again exactly Exactly and I'm back to the morrisons car park. There we go Get your roast potatoes in bush and let us know don't put that don't put roast potatoes Yeah, and by the way and just as an image thing lose the bread sauce for me Yeah It's a horrible ending to there's got there's got yeah, there's there's all sorts of stuff can go wrong the minute you bite into that Right that we will leave it there. They've only once happy. They've only once happy ending Let's have a happy ending. Yep. Thanks very much for listening as he goes into We'll see you later. Bye