 Next question is from Conor Nagel 07. When should you cap off your caffeine consumption and how do energy drinks contrast with pre-workout? Okay, so... What does he mean by contrast with pre-workout? I think just the difference between the two. Like pre-workout and energy drinks. The same difference. Yeah, let's start with the first part. So how do you know when you should cap off your caffeine intake? When the side effects of caffeine start to become a little pronounced. Okay, so when you notice that your anxiety is a little high, your jittery, you start to get really strong crashes. So you have your caffeine, you feel great. Get headaches. Then it drops off and all of a sudden you feel super unmotivated and like you're feeling for more caffeine, heart arrhythmia, excessive palm sweating, you know, sleep issues. I notice TMJ issues as well. Do you? Like I'm really like grinding my teeth or, you know, I can just feel that tension start to kind of make its way from my jaw down to my neck even. Yeah, and this is very individual. Like people have different tolerances to caffeine. Their bodies metabolize it differently. Like my tolerance for caffeine is a lot lower than say Adams and especially Justin's, right? These guys can drink way more caffeine than I can and be fine. And for me, if I tried to match them, I would feel terrible. I might even get nauseous or sick. So you got to kind of feel this out for yourself. So I've noticed for me anywhere between 250 to 400 milligrams in a day is about my peak. Well, don't you think that this is real? I mean, this is really hard for a lot of people to be able, I mean, you listed off a bunch of potential side effects, but the truth is most people won't notice those things because they'll have gradually moved their way up and their body will have adapted to that new milligram amount that they're now consuming. Yeah, but the side effects tend to grow. Sure, they do, but they grow at such a slow pace in relation to the extra dosage of caffeine that they may not really notice those things that much. They're paying attention to when they feel better, which is when they're getting the caffeine. Right. And so for me, I've just decided that once I get to a point where I'm having more than two or three cups of coffee slash energy drinks slash pre-workout in a day, that's a lot. That's a lot. And I don't ever want to be a slave to anything. Even if I'm not getting like crazy adverse effects, even if I'm not getting TMJ, I'm not losing sleep at night, I just don't. I mean, for financial reasons, like why spend the money on that much caffeine when I could cut it in half just by winging myself off for a week or two and then going back on, and then now it affects me like it's brand new again. Yeah, make no mistake, caffeine is a powerful drug. For all intents and purposes, you're looking at a substance that you build a tolerance to. It's got addictive, very powerful addictive qualities for people who are like, yeah, right, caffeine's addictive. Okay, if you drink coffee every day, stop drinking it and see how you feel. You get very strong physiological negative effects. Effects of where your body needs it, it feigns for it. It might take you a week or two weeks to start to feel normal. Overdose on caffeine is very easy. I mean, very, very easy. 200 milligrams might be a normal dose for someone. Give them 1,000 milligrams and they might die, literally. Actually, in fact, I think a good percentage of them would probably die from 1,000 milligrams. So it's a very powerful drug. It's just one of those drugs in society that's super accepted. So we don't treat it like a drug because... Anything that makes you productive is somewhat accepted. Well, isn't it funny though? That's how it is. I think of it like alcohol or like smoking weed or like anything else. It is, it is. And so anytime any of those things creep into my life where I feel like, okay, it's taking more control of me than I have control of it, that's my signal to come off. All right, well, here's some hard recommendation. Here's some specifics, right? So I used to tell my clients, I used to tell my clients don't have any caffeine after about 3 p.m. Because for most people, even if you go to sleep, if they test you, it negatively affects your sleep if you drink it past 3 p.m. So that was a good control for people. They would drink coffee and then after 3 p.m. they would cut it off. If you find yourself needing coffee all day, like, okay, I need it in the morning to get started. Now I need it at lunchtime to keep going. Now I need it again. Now I need it because I'm gonna go home and be around the kids and I need more caffeine. Then you probably need to wean yourself off. And here's a wonderful thing. If you wean yourself off and reintroduce it, lower doses now have an incredibly awesome effect on your body. Yeah, I've also found that really focusing on hydration and drinking more water has helped me in that transitionary period too because I would get really bad headaches if I was trying to lower the amount of caffeine because I would get myself up to a ridiculous amount and then try and pull myself back. And so that really helped in terms of providing more of that energy that lasts throughout the day too. So it wasn't going for that second, third cup. I feel like you have to find your individual threshold on what dose is it difficult for you to come off of. And I treat, like I said, marijuana, cratum. I use cratum every now and then. I have all these things that I've allowed that are considered would fall in that class of drugs, even though I know cratum is like an herb. But if it's something that the body can become addicted to, whatever amount is difficult for me to say, I don't want to have it for two or three days in a row, that's my amount. Like that's the my amount that I, that's my threshold. So somebody might be able to go all the way up to four, 600 milligrams of caffeine in a day and then go to zero for a week and not have any side effects. If that's it, then maybe that's you. Maybe you're fine with that. But other people like Sal gets up to 200, 250 milligrams of caffeine and then he goes to zero and he's got headaches and he's got problems with it. Like that's, then my threshold's before that. Yeah. It takes a lot of self-awareness, doesn't it? Right. You gotta pay attention. It took me a long time to figure that out. I mean, I would take energy drinks and supplements and ephedra back in the day. Like it was, like it was water. Took me a long time to kind of figure this out. Now, the difference between energy drinks and pre-workouts, energy drinks, lots of caffeine, pre-workouts, also lots of caffeine. Pre-workouts tend to have other compounds that have performance enhancing or muscle building type properties. So sometimes a pre-workout will contain creatine or they'll have beta-alanine or they'll have alpha-GPC or other compounds that help with specifically athletic performance. So like, like Legion's pre-workout pulse, for example, it's got caffeine. So it's got the same amount of caffeine you may find in a really, really strong energy drink. But then it has all those other compounds that have like muscle building or performance enhancing type benefits. The truth is though, what you feel is the caffeine. Like most people, when you talk about pre-workouts and energy drinks, the thing that has all this list of all these crazy positive things, right, that they throw in there so they can probably sell it for more at the end of the day, the thing that you like the most. Oh yeah, you take the caffeine. Although I will say this, alpha-GPC, beta-alanine, somebody who doesn't take stimulants, so somebody who doesn't ever take caffeine, they'll feel that. They'll feel more focus and studies and support this and prove this. But if you're used to stimulants, it's the stimulant you want. That's what it is.