Love me or leave me Nina Simone

I can`t let you be lonely but I trust your own space. I love you Darren, don`t leave

cricket2001--

Another older and obviously non-Bop example of this would be Duke Ellington's 1930-31 recording of "Sweet Mama;" it's really the 1929 hit "When You're Smiling."

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cricket2001--

It's interesting that you would mention this.

Indeed, many songs of the Be Bop era were standards where the chord progression was kept but the melody was changed.

The best example of this is the Bop classic "Groovin' High" which is really a hit song from 1920 called "Whispering."

Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band also did this with their hit "Cherchez La Femme"/Se Si Bon" though you can hear "Whispering" being played "straight" in the background.

Frank Tirro's "The Silent Theme Tradition in Jazz" talks all about this and has an amazing chart of old standards and their recontextualized pieces created by beboppers and other jazz musicians. Not sure where you can get it, but if you google Frank Tirro and the essay I'm sure you can find it online.

Wow, SirJakusThe1st!

I just searched on Mr. Tirro and read the some of his stuff; the man knows what he's talking about.

And, to be perfectly honest with you, I'd never heard of him until you mentioned his name; thank you!

If you want another source for this type of thing you should also check out Richard Wang's "Jazz Circa 1945: A Confluence of Styles". He talks less about specific songs and more about the evolution of styles.

He gives a cool example of Dizzy talking about how Roy Eldridge influenced him, and farther back, how Louis Armstrong influenced Eldridge.

SirJakusThe1st--

Well, of course; that's pretty obvious.

Now, I'm going to say something rather sacrilegious; "Bunny" Berigan was better than Roy Eldridge and not only that, I don't even think Eldridge deserves most of the accolades that time has heaped upon him (though he was a fine musician); Berigan is much more deserving.

And anyway, Bill Coleman is better still.

Well, that's one man's opinion.

Also, I don't listen to Jazz as much as I used to but I do still like it a helluva lot.

Now where would, not just jazz, but music in general be without Louis Armstrong?

In Europe, they still have "Pop" music based on the classical idiom and yes, some of it, as far as pop music goes, is pretty good.

In our own country pop music at some point largely abandoned this and the result was TERRIFIC!

That said, it can pretty much be all traced back to Mr. Armstrong, and for that, I am most grateful.

SirJakusThe1st--

Yeah, you're a young dude and instead of breaking your balls I should have mentored you instead.

And I did admit, although grudgingly, you're probably a nice enough young fella in "real life."

And, as you did point out, we both admire Ms. Simone because she was terrific and a true artiste.