 I'm an everyday woman, woman, woman, in every way, yeah, yeah, I'm living my life, life, living day by day. Welcome to Every Way Woman. There are some major changes happening in the talk show world. Live from Los Angeles, here's Every Way Woman. There are changes because I think that the producers and the executive producers and head of networks are just trying to find their place and they really have lost touch with their audience. That's what I think that's happening. Why do you think they've lost touch, Madison? I think they're a little bit too focused on a younger, richer socioeconomic class that doesn't really exist except for in a very small percentage. Well, it exists on, you know, the real teenagers of Beverly Hills. But that was not how I grew up in Grand Rapids. Right, no, it isn't. And you're right. Reality TV in its way has wreaked havoc on our household and on our women. And also, I don't think personally that the producers are willing to take a risk. This is a conversation that we have among ourselves and we talk about other shows and why some make it and some don't. And I always go back to the Katy Kerou show because it's such a, what a great opportunity for America's sweetheart. I loved her. I know, right? I loved her. But she did not take advantage of what she had to offer older women. Right. And she could have, she had a built in audience that she didn't go after. Well, that's because she had this formula that everybody else has been using. It doesn't work. The risk taking and not taking a risk and not at every way woman. We want to take a risk because there's so many other women out there. Right. And the risk that we want to take is we want to reach out to real women. Do you relate to anything right now? I do because at the same time, a lot of the times when the show's out there, they look into ratings. So when they pick somebody, they pick them because they're popular. But at the same time, do they bring rating? So that's how they end up. Do you feel like they're ever considering you, Anna, as a Latina, you know, you're in your 30s. Do you feel like you're ever being considered by these producers? No, actually no. I'm happy to be a part of this because you don't see a lot of Latinos, Latinas out there, you know, in the industry as in talk shows. Right. I would love to see that. I think they're going after the Latina market, but I think they're going after it for the wrong reason, what you say, for ratings. I don't think they're really putting a lot of consideration into who they're casting to be. Right. And who is actually connecting with them and who is actually watching them. And I don't know if they're representing the culture as well that comes behind it. And it's not just the strict culture from where it comes from, but how that is melted into what's the culture now. But I think you see it a lot in the Spanish, in the Spanish channel. Do you really see Latinos really out there, unless it's like a sitcom or something? Right. And that's where I went. Madison and I thought about creating Every Way Woman. I think one of the real reasons, one of the main sticking points was that we wanted a show that other people can relate to and didn't feel like, well, I'm just a consolation viewer. I have no choice. Madison, what was that like for you? What sparked Every Way Woman? For me, it was getting into touch with being domestic. Because before getting married, I was not really a domestic kind of woman. I was out. I was just living free. I didn't care where my underwear ended up. And it was just on the floor. What I mean is on the floor, it ended up on the floor. You know, after getting married, putting clothes on the floor was not okay anymore. Also, I needed to know how to do a lot of things that I didn't do before. I remember a conversation we had on almost the same topic. I remember Madison and I was like, we want to show that women can feel like they can do it themselves. And we go back to your wedding cake. And I remember you telling me about your wedding cake. Martha Stewart. I watched Martha Stewart. She was like middle class, forever mom type of woman. So I looked up to her because she was the only one out there. She was the closest person that I could relate to. And I'm half Korean. So she put out a book of wedding cakes that said that I can make a wedding cake. And I thought, okay, my husband to be is super picky. He wants to have this special fondant icing. And Martha Stewart says I can do it. So, all right, I'm going to do it. You did it. My wedding night. Okay, my wedding night. You did it on your wedding night. At 4 a.m. in the morning, I am rolling out this dough. Fondant, are you kidding me? No, I had no idea. Don't wear it in the book. That's hard. You need a spatula the size of a dining table. In order to lift this frosting up and put it on a cake. Not as new or crazy. Absolutely. But that was who I was relating to because she was the only one out there. And I was so frustrated because that's not part of who I am. But I was trying to be somebody I wasn't. But it was actually kind of the building blocks everyone. We were talking about, okay, they're doing stuff that's not real. And real women are trying to do it and they can't do it. And they're so frustrated. And they were so frustrated. And do you know at Ralph's, I asked what a truffle was and they sent me to the chocolate section, which I went to. But there's a nut called a truffle. And you don't shade that. You want a truffle oil? Yes. I shade chocolate truffles into my shrimp dish. My 15 minute shrimp dish. Are you kidding me? Because I didn't know. And that's really what the show is about because we wanted to educate people have fun. And at the same time, because a lot of people didn't know anything. And we were both saying, we were just that conversation. I realized, Mads didn't realize, we needed this information to be in one spot. And balancing a checkbook. I remember going to Yolanda, I don't understand why at the end of the month, I'm getting bound here and there and everywhere. And Yolanda looked at me and went, that's the problem. Nobody ever taught us how to do these things. No one teaches this stuff. And sometimes some people can only learn from television, from people in the media. Or from our friends. That's from our friends. Or from our coworkers. Or from our mothers. Or from our... You know what, YouTube doesn't know it all. I'll tell you that because I can Google some answers and then I try it and I still... It's not for real. I think it's a beautiful thing being a part of this panel and a part of the show because the other... Just like two days ago... Wait, wait, yesterday, I'm sorry. Yeah, yesterday. That's okay. I just stopped at Starbucks, you know, paying for my, you know, mocha. And then she just... The girl, she was like in a 26th Caucasian. And she was just like, oh my God, like, you know, I can't believe you're here. And she took a picture with me. You got pretty good eyes. That's the one you connected with. And that's who... And because you provided something for her that she wasn't able to get somewhere. And you also... Well, she goes, you give me hope. And honestly, that's what made me lose. And you became real to her. Yes. I think I texted you and I'm like that. And I am... Every time you say it, I kind of cry because that was the whole purpose of doing the show. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. So, you know... Beyond hope, what are you hoping to leave and who are watching... Or men, better watching the show. That, you know what, don't give up. I think the show is about not giving up. And be who you are. Be true to yourself and be who you are. Different women, different color stations, different opinions. It's always great. You're on Every Way Woman. Stay tuned. Are you an Every Way Woman? That's more Every Way Woman. Are you an Every Way Woman? It's family time. But sometimes it's a lost arc. You want to... How do you feel about this? You know, to me, dinner is the most important time of the day. Because it's the one time that the entire family really have an opportunity to be together. You know, breakfast or rushing. You can have lunch at school or at work. Yeah, except for... Unless you live in a two-income household. Because I know for me, dinner time was very important but it didn't work for me. Because when I was at home, my husband was at work. Yeah. And that's the struggle to have those moments. Did you eat with your kids or did you wait for your husband? I know. I'd eat with my kids. Because I wouldn't see him until 4 in the morning and sometimes until the next day. Well, for me, it's different. I'm single. I don't have a family. So what is dinner time for you? For another TV. For another on the road? On the road. And I understand because I'm single as well. But then sometimes, you know, they even say... I take myself out. But of course. But I do agree that dinner time is one of the most important times. And it is family time. And it is a time that should be honored. I would change things up. I have some of the best conversations with my kids over dinner. But how do you instigate that? Because even the children now are sitting at the tables with their iPads. Some of them even have iPhomes. In your house maybe. You're not in my house. I don't have kids. But, you know, I have friends who will sit their children down in front of their iPads. You know, they're being unconscious. And also the parents don't realize that that is such a valuable time. It's a lesson of teaching. It's an opportunity to see what's going on in their day. How is their school? And that's what you find out about your kids through their conversations and things like that. So it's a lost art. Yes. Because for some reason we think, hey, we don't have to have a little bit of old fashioned values. But those old fashioned values is what shaped us. And plus, didn't some of your best memories... You were raised with these old fashioned values. Yes. I was too. But didn't some of your best memories come from around? I hold them right here. Because I remember, you know, anniversaries. Our family used to actually celebrate it. Include us. Give us presents. And this whole thing of even menus on the dinner table. I remember. We didn't have dinner time. And that was because of two working parents. And so dinner time quite often for me was we go get our own bowl of rice. And I learned how to cook hot dogs when I was like four. So that was dinner time for me. And I think that was something that I longed for and I missed growing up. Was having that connection. When I went to family's houses and they had dinner time, I looked around and went, wow, I'm really lonely at home. My family really made a point to have Sunday family dinner. But if that included a pot roast, I had other plans. I mean, it's still good this day. My mom makes pot roast. I'm not there for dinner. I love you mom. But it's just so funny. And she always thought that was a good mom goal to serve a roast and have this family dinner and this family time. And we can dedicate Sundays to that. And even now as a single woman, I try and open my doors on a Sunday. And, you know, anybody can come over and I'll cook for you. We'll have dinner. Because I want to include that in my life. And have that community. That you mentioned like Sunday. Because I don't know if you notice about black people. Like Friday is fish and spaghetti night. I mean, you can't. Fish and spaghetti. Yes. Yes. Fried fish and spaghetti. And you cannot go to a single place. It's not too many black homes. You can go to on a Friday. They did not serve any fish. You eat fried fish on spaghetti. Yeah. No, fish and spaghetti. Okay. Not on it. It's like chicken and waffles. Yes. Maybe. They do have that. You can get chicken and waffles now. Yeah. But we had designated days where you knew what you were having for that dinner. And it was every week. So our director, she always tells me this story about her mom. How Tuesday was a bad day. And every Tuesday growing up was pizza night. I mean, they just, you know, they knew that this is how it's going to be done. I have to tell you, we really didn't eat out growing up. And that's why I have so many memories around dinner time or food in general. Because I didn't know people ate out on holidays. I did not know this until I got older. Me ate out on Christmas Eve. Yeah. For a time. We didn't celebrate any holidays. Wait, wait. I was going to touch you. I didn't know that Sunday nights was Chinese night. But really? I didn't know. I was like, I don't know if you just heard this. Anna didn't celebrate holidays. I didn't celebrate any holidays. Why? The way I was raised, religion wise. But, but I mean, it was, it was a little, you know, it's nothing. That's not a whole new other segment, but related to eating. It was right after church though. That was our going out to the restaurant. And after church, it was, no, not at all. Of the other families. How can you be jealous of something you don't really know? Exactly. Now it's a little different. I don't, it's, it's another topic. Like I said. How do you feel though about, like you say you had to go to restaurants and sometime by yourself, you don't feel bad about, but do other people make you feel bad about it? I had to think about myself now. You know, I go have dinner and go celebrate with my friends on other things. Oh, okay. But it's still important. I feel like people do look at me a little funny if I go, I usually sit up at the bar so I don't feel too lonely. So I have a bar to talk to. There's nothing that you funny they're hitting on you. Yes. I'm so oblivious to that. You guys know, seriously, I'm oblivious to that. But I do feel like people look at me like, what's wrong with her? Like, why is that girl? I'm too bright. Why are you alone? Yeah, why are you alone? Oh my God, I hear that. You know, I really get down to myself about that. It's okay to be alone. Enjoy your meal. Well, then I treat myself to dessert too. If I eat alone, I get the appetizer. I get the entree. This whole topic just made me feel lonely. You do that on dates. I've got you honey. Where do you do that on dates? Yeah, you let nobody else pay. But somebody else pays. Yeah, you never pay for dessert. Never. It's not the calories. Well, I do think it is so important that, you know, we do make time for your family, getting to know each other, whether it's up for lunch or dinner, dinner time, family time. Stay with us. We'll be right back. Are you an every-way woman? When it comes to fitness, it feels like that we're always starting over. Is that a real thing or is that something that we put in our minds? Stay tuned and let's find out. We are all trying to get fit. But when it comes to fitness, I always feel like I am starting over. What can I do to avoid this person? Work out all the time and be consistent. Okay. Well, I'm not you. So that is the workout queen. If you haven't realized from her arms. Okay. This girl, what are you guys talking about? Show the guns. Show those guns. Yeah, we need that. I was listening to you two in the green room and you were talking about, so what do you do? And Madison was like, oh, I work out 30 minutes a day and stretch and stuff. But it seems like it's a really good idea to work out 30 minutes a day. It's an awesome idea. It is an awesome idea. But it's really tough to find that time to work out. But for me, the tough, I do always feel like I'm starting over, especially if I have to go out of town or if my husband out of town, because we are attached. We go to the gym together. We don't work out together, but we're together. But you're each other's motivation and your creativity. Exactly. And when he's not there, sometimes I don't eat for days and I don't work out. Yes. And we both realize that he does the same thing. I hope he doesn't go before you. But recently, I had to go out of town twice in the last couple of months. And I got my bag, bag, and I got my resisting bands, and I didn't got my DVDs. And it all stays packed. Yes. And I don't work out. You have to put it with your underwear. Because you know you're going to go get underwear no matter what you do on your vacation. No. Then you see it every time you look at it and you're like, yeah, not going to happen. And then you feel guilty. That's it. And I feel really bad because when I come back home, it takes me more time to start over. But you are starting over. Every time that you don't work out and keep it consistent, it's a mental and it's an emotional thing. You have to keep doing it. I feel guilty right now just listening to the exercise and the you work out too. And I'm a beer drinker. You've got a problem. No, I don't. Maybe every other day. But every other day. That's why it's so hard for me to like, when I focus and you know, I have a gym membership. And use it. I'll start tomorrow and then the beer. But you can drink the beer and still work out. The carbs are good for you. Carbs is a preferred source of energy. Here's my problem. So I will start the workout DVD. I'll lay out my yoga mat, whatever I've got to do. I start working out and I get on the floor and I see how dirty my floor is on. And then I can't work out because I need to swim. And then I clean for two hours. You can turn that into a workout if you want. You can do out, you can put it on your feet, push out, pull in, push out, pull in, and then you've got questions out of time. Because then there's laundry due and dishes to be done. I can't do. I do think this is a real problem, especially for women. If you're a woman like myself, I have to have a plan. If I go to the gym, I have my, it's printed out. If I don't have that print out. And then if I don't have my... Not only is it a thing though. But I hear is that your expectations and your goals to get your workout in might not be attainable. So you make your workout outside of yourself. Now I have two kids, single mom, I work a full-time job, and then some. And so when... You might think me feel really bad about myself. Because I know it's important. And it's important for my kids too. I want them to know that health is important to me. It's important to the family. It's important to everybody. I try to make everybody work out, including my mom who hates me. She's like, why do I have to? But I got her stretching every night for about 20 minutes. And I find my workout wherever I can find it. If I'm at the park, because the kids want to be at the park, I will play tag with them until I am exhausted. But Yolanda, I remember you telling me you find your motivation when you wake up. What is the first thing you see? I have a little, on my cell phone, I have little messages that I send myself. And I can't say I'm on television. It is. Because I go workout at like between 3.30 and 4.30 a.m. Because I'm a morning person and I don't like a lot of people in the gym. But I have put up a lot of barriers. And I say, oh, it's not 7 o'clock. It's past 7. I can't go. My whole day is ruined. And going back to me, not being in control, not being organized. And then it takes me two or three more days to get back on track. And I'm restarting again. And we'll do that. We'll self-sabotage ourselves so that we won't have to work out. Because we see it as work. Do you not see it as work? Yeah, recently. Recently with me it's just more like I've been just enjoying myself. Yeah, but you know, you lost what? Over 100 pounds? 160 pounds. 160? But you cannot. But I'm still fat. You're not. You're curvy. And it's not about whether you're fat or skinny or whatever. It's about are you healthy? And that's true. In your case, people think that you don't have concerns. Yeah, people think that you don't need to work out. And I'll say, yes, I do need to work out because I want to be healthy. I am skinny fat. I am in the worst shape of my life. Maybe if you look at me, you wouldn't think so, but I know so. I know I need to work out. Because being skinny does not necessarily mean that you are healthy. And that's what we really should focus on. Every time we're starting, we need to focus on the health part of fitness instead of the dress size. Yeah, it's not about size or about weight. It's truly about just maintaining your health. Commitment. Commitment. Don't self-sabotage. We'll be right back with more Everyway Woman. Yes, there you go. Hold the picture like this. Make it five minutes to get a whole picture up here. Just attract something else. After this commercial break, more Everyway Woman. Are you an Everyway Woman? Everyway Woman is doing everything we can to make sure that we can reach you at home, on your phone, or across the world. Stay with us and continue with the movement. Welcome back to Everyway Woman. So we are taking the conversation on the show to the movement. Tell me about this platform, Yolanda. Well, the movement is just an extension of the show. Things that we cannot get to, plus it gives us an opportunity to reach women around the world. Now, Madison and I, when we was first talking about the show, we first did a segment. We wanted to test this blender. Magic Bullet. Magic Bullet Blender. It's been around forever. Yes, it's better now. Yes, it's better now. And we pulled it out. We pulled out some recipes and we made things that it gave us to make. Yes. And it started smoking. Yes. So that's what the movement is about. We are testing products. I remember Madison was like, we should really test these magazine, fitness, you know, workout programs to see if they actually work. Or recipes, 15-minute deals. When you go to the store and you want to buy something, there's 10 different lemon poppy seed muffins on the table. Which one's the best? Which one's the best? Do you spend $2.50 on one box and then $0.99 on the other? You know what I tell you, I'm obsessed with trying. And ladies and gentlemen, you can get more information on the movement. Of course, the beauty products. Yes. I want to know which ones work. In fact, I'll put one eye cream on one eye for two weeks and one on the other. Are you serious? Absolutely. That's incredible. Don't tell my dirty secrets. But yeah, I'm so serious because I've really invested in the discovery of, you know, searching for the truth behind these articles with these products. And we really want to share that with our audience. How do we make choices? How do we make smart choices unless you actually try it? And what we've learned, Yolanda and I learned over time, is that some products work really well with one type of skin. I think it's good. And it doesn't work well with another. I mean, you're a pro at that. Well, yes, I think it's good for being on the web because I mean, there's so many, everybody goes into the web for everything. Yes, you know. Not everyone watches television. They use the... No. And the other thing is too, is I might go to the web but I don't have time to go to the web and look at, you know, 12 different sites. But we can test it for you. Yeah. But we can test everything and all of that information we want to have in one place for you. And not just testing products. Do it yourself, you know, quick fitness tips, quick money tips, things like that. We'll follow up conversations. You know, let's talk to the guests behind the scenes. Let's talk to them after the interview. Right, because the interview face is sometimes different because they're who they are off-camera. Exactly. And sometimes it can be more interesting. Is there going to be edits? Yes. And also, believe it or not, we get a chance to talk in entertainment because, you know, even though we don't celebrate celebrities on this show, you know, people do like celebrities. So we get a chance to us a little bit of gossip. We like to gossip. We like to gossip as well. Exactly. So it gives us a chance and an opportunity to gossip. But I just like the opportunity. Always in a positive way. We never trash. We do. No. We have a large audience outside our area. We have a lot of women that reach out to us from around the world. Right. China. Yeah. So it's great. In there. China. Love you, China. 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