 That's what I'm saying. Thank you, Prabhu. Okay, so in the New Testament we see that there's this full and final sacrifice and because of that, something when we receive, when we invite, when we accept, there's some change that happens within the spirit of man. That was not the case, that was not the case of the Old Testament. So just by observation, I'm saying, okay, it's post-across that the Holy Spirit because of us being new creations and our spirit being born again, our spirit being alive to the work of God that He comes and indwells with us forever. So that's one observation. So that's one difference that we see in the Old Testament and the New. Because there's a big difference, right? In the Old Testament, saints, if you want to call them that, and the New Testament believers, this was one major difference. They were looking towards the cross. Of course, they believed God, like it says about Abraham. He believed God, it was a counter to him for righteousness. That is we, we've been born again. And the Second Corinthians 5 talks about the fact that he knew, he made him who knew no sin to be sin, so that we become the righteousness of God. So he's no more accounted for righteousness, but we become the righteousness of God and Christ, Christ Jesus. So there's a big difference. Yeah, so that's what I think. But it's God's plan, it's God's purpose. That's how we work. Okay, so coming back to this thing. So what are your thoughts when you look at this ministry of the world? The Holy Spirit is? How are you? He's already there. So in a sense, if you see, he's already present. He's omnipresent, Holy Spirit, he's omnipresent. So you can't contain. And the fact is that when the Lord says that he will send the Holy Spirit, it is with the specific intent of indwelling the believer. He'll send the promise of the Father. You wait in Jerusalem, I will send the promise of the Father. It was for the first time that he would indwell the believer. So that's the thing. That is why he says he will send the promise. But the fact is that he was there. Like if you see, he's got the Father here. I mean, yeah, he is. He's in heaven, but the fact that he's God is everywhere. The Holy Spirit, he was there at creation and is he there? Yeah, of course he is. But the fact is the way he is in a believer, he's going to be there in a way that he was not earlier. So he's saying, I will send the promise of the Father. We read about baptism of the Holy Spirit also. We see that. See, when a believer is born again, he's already sealed with the Holy Spirit. He's there. The Holy Spirit is already there. But then this baptism of the Holy Spirit is another experience for the believer where he comes upon the believer in a greater measure to take the believer and to release certain things in a believer's life, to be witness with power, what we see in Acts chapter 1. So does that mean the Holy Spirit is not there? Oh, he's there. He's in dwelling because that's how we know. Okay, suddenly we become sensitive to sin. I should live a holy life. All that is because of the work of the Holy Spirit. But then in baptizing the believer, he comes upon the believer in a different measure to take the believer and to release certain things in a believer's life. So that's the thing. So it does not mean that he's not there and he suddenly is there. He's there, but he's doing a different work. Okay. Online folks, any thoughts from your side? These were a couple of questions here, but what are your thoughts looking at the entire journey of the Old Testament through the Old Testament to work of the Holy Spirit and you also? Absolutely. So what, okay, we have another Nina here. There's a Nina here also. What is yours? Okay, Nina Santosh. There's Nina John also here on my class. Okay, so what Nina is saying is that it's a privilege because it's something that the Old Testament saints did not have because we have the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit 24, 7, 365 days. Not a moment where he's not there. So it's such a privilege for us. We have, we can anytime call upon God. We see the Old Testament, they will say, hey, I want to hear from God. Let us go to a seer. Let us go to a prophet. Let us inquire of the Lord, what God's thoughts are, because they were clueless. They had the law and scriptures, but they were clueless of what would God want in this particular thing. So for us, we had the awesome privilege of, you know, so the thing is this, you know, only when we, let's say, how should I say it, you know, if we do not have, let's say, because of sin, okay, because of living a life of rebellion and, you know, cutting off in the sense being hardened to the work of the Holy Spirit and then coming back, you know, we realize that, oh, this is what I really missed. You realize the worth or, you know, you couldn't hear the voice of God and suddenly you hear the voice of God and such an awesome privilege and it's also such a wonderful gift and that God is with you and God wants to lead you and God wants to be involved in, you know, every aspect of your life. Okay, some here. The Holy Spirit is always at work enabling people and empowering people, Prabhu says that, and then Tushar, only through the Holy Spirit, prophets and kings in the Old Testament were able to perform God's mighty work. Yeah, right. Okay, so there is more. There is much more for us as believers. That's all we can say, I kind of, anointing earlier. Sorry, in the Old Testament? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we see that. Okay, so Karen is asking about the anointing oil and the reference is there in, I think, it's there in the notes. I don't remember it off hand, but the fact is this anointing oil was used and the tabernacle was there and everything that happened in the tabernacle, you know, the sacrifice that happened and you'll be learning about it in the praise and worship session also. This whole journey from the outer courts to the Holy of Holies and how the High Priest would do that once a year to the Holy of Holies, et cetera. So what was that? So that was a type. It was a symbolic act which was actually referring to what the Lord Jesus would do and what would follow. Animal sacrifice, everything associated with that. Do we still do it? No, because it ended at the cross. So also the oil, you know, it was a symbol. It was symbolic of the work of the Holy Spirit. So today there's no necessity for that. We don't have that. We don't use that. But the fact is that the Holy Spirit Himself, He is the oil of gladness. He does that work in us. So that's why. So, yeah. The only thing that we see about oil is, you know, what we see in James with an anoint with oil and pray and it's again a symbolic act. There's nothing special about the oil. There's nothing magical about the oil. What about baptism? There's nothing special about the water going inside water coming out. It's a symbolic of a very great spiritual truth. Okay. Okay. Some more. Thank you, Nina. Yeah. Thank you, Prisha. Yeah. Okay. So let's, so we understand. We understand. I mean, it's, it's sometimes we just, we're so humbled that the God of heaven and earth would choose to dwell in us. The God of heaven and earth would choose to do His work in us and through us. Right. So I just think about it. The God who was the Holy Spirit who was there hovering over the waters at the time of creation is the same Holy Spirit who's dwelling us. Just think about that. So he knows everything. He's seen everything. History. He was there at the early church. He came upon the disciples and birthed the early church, the first, you know, the New Testament church and he's the same Holy Spirit who's with us and he's the spirit of wisdom and he's the spirit of understanding. So, so the importance of us as believers for us to commune with the Holy Spirit, like we saw in our second Corinthians, the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, we really need to crave, spend time, have that communion with the Holy Spirit. Right. So that's something that we see. Okay. So chapter four, chapter four, can you just tell me what is the page number? Page number nine. Okay. So let's move to chapter four and we're going to look at the work of the Holy Spirit in the life of the Lord Jesus. Okay. The work of the Holy Spirit in the work, in the life of the Lord Jesus. So we see that first we look at what was the work of the Holy Spirit, you know, in those events which was just leading up to his birth. Right. So the work of the Holy Spirit. What was the Holy Spirit doing in the events just before the birth or, you know, the coming of the Lord Jesus? Okay. So let's look at Luke chapter one. Okay. Luke chapter one and verses 15 to 17. Okay. Luke chapter one verse 15. It is about the John the Baptist and the angel comes and he tells Zechariah's father of John the Baptist. Let me just read from verse 13. The angel said to him, do not be afraid Zechariah's for your prayer is heard and your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son and you shall call his name John and you will have joy and gladness and many will rejoice at his birth for he will be great in the sight of the Lord and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink. Also be filled with the Holy Spirit even from his mother's womb and he will turn many of the children of Israel to the Lord their God. He will also go before him in the spirit and power of Elijah to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just to make ready a people prepared for the Lord. So this was mentioned about the Holy Spirit in the life of John and his prophesy, this is what will happen through John's ministry. He's going to prepare people for the Lord Jesus to come and he's going to prepare him in this way prepare the hearts of people in this manner because he's going to minister in the spirit and power of Elijah to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just. So we read about this John the Baptist. Just a minute. Aria, Lohae, So is that a question or just a statement that you're making? Holy Spirit spoke to an individual or a group of or a group of people. I guess that's an observation or a statement that you're making. If it is a question, could you please clarify and I'll answer that. Let's look at another another reference the same chapter Luke chapter 1 and verse 35 the angel answered and said to her to whom? To Mary. The Holy Spirit will come upon you and the power of the highest will overshadow you. Therefore also the Holy One who is to be born will be called the son of God and then verse 37 with God nothing will be impossible. Then Mary said the whole made servant of the Lord, let it be to me according to your word and the angel departed from her. So in that communication that the angel brings this news says that this is what will happen that Messiah will be born and the usual name he should be called this and so on. So he says the Holy Spirit this will be a work of the Holy Spirit it will be a supernatural miraculous work of the Holy Spirit and it will be because of the power of the Holy Spirit and the Holy One will be called the son of God. So we see that this is something that he does and this is even before the coming of the Lord Jesus. Same chapter we go to verse 40, 41 so this is very exciting this whole chapter Luke and we see there's so much happening before the birth of the Lord Jesus. There's prophesying, there's Zakras and he receives, he has this vision the angel comes and visitation rather, not a vision from this angel and this happens and then Mary has this visitation of this angel Gabriel and then this happens and then Mary goes to Elizabeth so that is what we see and it happened when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary that the baby leaped in her womb and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit then she spoke out with a loved voice and said blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb but why is this granted to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me for indeed as soon as the voice of your greeting sounded in my ears the baby leaped in my womb for joy. Blessed is she who believed for there will be a fulfillment of those things which were told her from the Lord so amazing things happening if you can just picture it just thinking what was going on in Mary's mind she was troubled about society and all that but then she came to that point and saying be it unto me according to the word of God and be it unto me according to your word actually which was indeed the word of God so that happens and then she goes to visit Elizabeth and Elizabeth is filled with the Holy Spirit and she prophesies and this is what she says so no one has any clue what is happening in Mary's life but Elizabeth prophesies by the Spirit by the Holy Spirit and she says blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb and then she says why is this granted to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me and then she testifies and says as soon as your greeting sounded in my years she was expecting John the Baptist she was pregnant with John the Baptist and she says the baby leaped in my womb as soon as your greeting was here and then verse 5 she is actually confirming those words that Mary actually spoke to the angel what did Mary say verse 38 let it be to me according to your word and here Elizabeth is saying blessed is she who believed for there will be a fulfillment of those things which were told her from the Lord another person her own cousin Elizabeth and she is like testifying and she is saying there will be a fulfillment of those things which were told by the Lord she had no clue she was just prophesying because of the spirit of God okay okay let's look at verse 67 verse 67 and we see this instance of incident of okay I'll just come back to you Araya we see this instance where John the Baptist's father okay so he is filled with this Holy Spirit and he prophesies let's just read through let's see what he prophesies and blessed is the Lord God of Israel for he has visited and redeemed his people and has raised up a horn of salvation for us in the house of a servant David as he spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets who have been since the world began that we should be saved from our enemies and from the hand of all who hate us to perform the mercy promised to our fathers and to remember his holy covenant the oath which he swore to our father Abraham to grant us that we being delivered from the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear in holiness and righteousness before him all the days of our life and you child will be called the prophet of the highest our John right and you will go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways to give knowledge of salvation to his people by the remission of their sins through the tender mercy of our God with which the day spring from on high has visited us to give light to those who sit in darkness and the shadow of death to guide our feet into the way of peace so he is just declaring this is what God is saying and he is prophesying just looking at the baby and he is prophesying this so again an amazing thing same thing also for us in our day and time we can pray prophesy over people the heart and mind of God and especially children prophesying the destiny that God has for them another question here or a group of people we see both in the Old Testament and we see both both happening that can happen so if particularly to the Old in the Old Testament we see that we see about okay we know that the Holy Spirit came upon specific individuals and for a specific task we saw that and we also saw that he would come upon a group of people like the company of prophets as they were coming down high place and they were prophesying and Saul joined them he also started prophesying so it was over a group of people so it would happen to both individuals and for a group and specifically in Acts chapter 2 we see that the early church all the disciples were gathered together in the upper room and the Holy Spirit came upon them and it was a group and we know that he came upon individuals also so he would do both okay okay look chapter 2 Simeon so we see look chapter 2 and verse 25 okay so here's this person Simeon says he was in Jerusalem he was just, he was devout he was waiting for the consolation of Israel he was waiting for the Messiah and the Holy Spirit was upon him okay and it had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not see death before he had seen the Lord's Christ okay so he came by the Spirit into the temple and when the parents brought in the child Jesus to do for him according to the custom of the law he took him up in his arms and blessed God so just imagine he's in the temple and here's this couple walking in with a child to do the custom of circumcision according to the Jewish laws and the Holy Spirit he comes into the temple by the Holy Spirit we don't know how many people were there how many couples were there with their children to do this but then immediately the Holy Spirit testifies to Simeon this is the Messiah so we don't know how many children were there he takes up the child Jesus in his arms and blessed God and he said, Lord now you are letting your servant depart in peace according to your word for my eyes have seen your salvation which you have prepared before the face of all peoples a light to bring revelation to the Gentiles and the glory and the glory of your people Israel and Joseph and his mother at those things which were spoken of him and Simeon blessed them and said to Mary behold this child is destined for the fall and rising of many in Israel and for a sign which will be spoken against and then he says, a soul to pierce your own heart and soul also that the thoughts of many may be revealed referring to the sorrow that she wouldn't experience at the crucifixion of the Lord so the thing is this this is some very disjoint events but at the same time the same Holy Spirit bringing it all together there is the visitation there is this Holy Spirit coming upon Elizabeth Mary going to visit Elizabeth and Elizabeth experiencing maybe moving at this time that Elizabeth said, Mary said hello and she prophesies and is saying, this is the Lord mother of my Lord who is with me very exciting things and then the Lord of the temple and here's Simeon he's been waiting and the Lord has told him, you will see you will see the Messiah before you die and there could be many people in the temple, we don't know but then he zeros in on this couple and this baby he takes and he prophesies by the Spirit of the Lord so all those exciting things happening okay then we come to John Matthew chapter 3 and how the Holy Spirit is baptizing or the Lord Jesus is baptized by the Holy Spirit and let's just read that so it's there in Luke chapter 3 as well look chapter 3 over 16 John answered and saying to him, I indeed baptize you with water but one mightier than I is coming sandals trap, I'm not worthy to lose he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire okay his annoying fan is in his hand and he will thoroughly cleanse out his threshing floor and will gather the wheat into his barn for the chaff he will burn but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire and with many other exhortations he preached to the people okay and then it says in verse 21 when all the people were baptized they came to pass that Jesus also was baptized and while he prayed the heaven was opened and the Holy Spirit descended in bodily form like a dove upon him and a voice came from heaven which said you are my beloved son in whom I am well pleased if you just turn back to Matthew chapter 3 it again describes in greater detail it says Matthew chapter 3 and verse 11 says I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance but he who is coming after me is mightier than I whose sandals I'm not worthy to carry he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire and then on verse 12 verse 13 then Jesus came from Galilee to John at the Jordan to be baptized by him and John tried to prevent him saying I need to be baptized by you and are you coming to me but Jesus answered and said to him permitted to be so now for thus is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness then he allowed him when he had been baptized Jesus came up immediately from the water and behold the heavens were open to him and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon him and suddenly a voice came from heaven saying this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased we saw this in the first chapter right at the beginning when we studied the picture of Trinity the train God in Scripture so we saw that so we see that the Holy Spirit the work of the Holy Spirit baptizing the Lord Jesus coming and alighting upon him and when he's baptized in water by John okay so so all these things happen in the events leading up to this these Lord Jesus baptized with the Holy Spirit right from just before his birth and till this instance we see the work of the Holy Spirit happening there so let's look at the work of the Holy Spirit in the life of the Lord Jesus okay we looked at Matthew chapter 3 if you look at Matthew chapter 4 we see that he was led by the Spirit when Jesus says Matthew 4 and verse 1 then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil and then it talks about how he fasted 40 days and 40 nights and afterwards he was hungry and then the temptation that he faced and overcame the work of the enemy the temptation of the devil okay then we go to look at any questions here leading him to the wilderness and the Lord is spending time fasting and praying and we also learn a lot from that about fasting and praying but specifically it just shows us the fact that he overcame the enemy it was a season of tempting by the enemy but it was actually well it was actually the Holy Spirit leading him to overcome the temptation which is what every time the Lord did and then it says when you read Matthew 4 the angels came and tempted the minister to him and it says that he returned which verses that Matthew 4 look at Luke chapter 4 verse 1 and sorry not 4 not 4-1 but 4-14 okay so at the end of all these temptations and Lord refuting the temptation of the enemy verse 14 says then Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit to Galilee and news of him went out throughout all the surrounding regions right so the Holy Spirit led them for this specific season or time period where he was tested where he was tempted by the enemy and it was an opportunity for the Lord to actually overcome and after that we see that he returned in the power of the Holy Spirit and it is then that he starts this earthly ministry and it was in the power of the Holy Spirit and it says that news about him spread throughout which means that his ministry of teaching his ministry of the supernatural works of healing deliverance everything actually happened from there because he had actually broken the power of the enemy so to speak and he was filled with the power of the Holy Spirit so we see that the Holy Spirit led him for this specific task or this specific task that right just before starting the earthly ministry and it is so that he might win that victory right so I mean that's what we see in scripture right okay any other questions yeah like we don't know the Bible does not say whether he's spoken tongues or not but it also says that in the garden he prayed and it was with the heaven cries so we don't know but then the fact is that acceptor acceptor 2 acceptor 9 acceptor 10 you know all those scriptures we see that for the early church this is something that was available and this is something for the believers and it was for a purpose when we study the gift of tongues we see it was for a purpose it was to release all the wonderful benefits of praying time in 1 Corinthians 12 13 14 talks about you know the work of the Holy Spirit specifically in the area of releasing gifts for the edification of the church so we see it's a good thing right and it has been it is for the believer and you know John chapter 14 and verse 12 the Lord talks about certain things that the believers would do he says you know it's the area of faith he says the works that I do he will do also and greater works than these you will do I John chapter 14 verse 12 so it's not mentioned what are those great works that the believer in Jesus would do of course it's slightly out of context in the sense it's the great works so so you know we can conclude that the Lord has these things in store for us yeah so that's it it's for us it's for the church but just because you don't pray in tongues doesn't make you a second class believer you know the Lord still loves the Lord still the same but it's for us why don't we make use it's for us why don't we receive but you want to refute yeah any other questions anything online class if you have any questions okay so we're going to look at one more verse like verse 14 Luke 4 verse 14 he returned in the power of the Spirit and news of him went throughout all the surrounding regions okay so Acts chapter 10 also talks about that Acts chapter 10 and verse verse 38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and God with power who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil for God was with him so that brings us first to the understanding that the Lord Jesus was anointed by the Holy Spirit and he did these great and mighty works by the power of the Holy Spirit so that's one then the second question is the Lord Jesus ministered by the power of the Holy Spirit was but wasn't he God right so what you know what's the big deal in the sense he could anyway do it but why is it does it specifically say that he ministered by the power of the Holy Spirit that he was anointed by the Holy Spirit it's there for a reason right so let's look at that you know the whole aspect of how Jesus ministered by the power of the Holy Spirit let's spend some time on that so we're going to look at the fact that the Lord Jesus when we're going to study this we're going to certain things we have to keep in mind well the Lord Jesus was deity is deity what does it mean he's God because we read that he is eternal work and everything was done by him we read that Colossians 1 we read Hebrews chapter 2 and we see that this is what so that doesn't change so he was God he is God he always will be but when we look at his earthly ministry we see that he did not walk or he chose not to walk in the attributes of God so what are those attributes he was not omnipresent he was present in one place omnipresent means present everywhere but he was in this human body he was present in that place time and geographical location he was not omnipotent in the sense in his earthly body he was tired he was weak he was hungry so all that we see so let's look at Philippians chapter 2 which explains this Philippians chapter 2 and verse 5 so while we look at this again I want to repeat that we're not saying that he at any point he was not God he was God he is he will always will be and so we're not saying he stopped being God but the fact is that Philippians 2 says let this mind Philippians 2 and verse 5 let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus who being in the form of God did not consider it robbery to be equal with God but made himself of no reputation taking the form of a born servant and coming in the likeness of men and being found in appearance as a man he humbled himself to the point of death even the death on the cross therefore God has highly exalted him and given him the name which is above every name that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow of those in heaven of those on earth and of those under the earth and that every tongue should confess that Jesus is Lord to the glory of God the Father so it says every knee should bow which means worship deity so it's very clear but the fact is that he made himself of no reputation and the Greek word used there is kinu which means that to make empty so he chose to keep aside or shed that glory of omnipotence omniscience all knowing, all powerful present everywhere as he walked as a man as a human being he chose to keep that aside and minister and therefore he had to be baptized filled with the power of the Holy Spirit so we see in the human body of course he got tired he says I'm hungry I'm thirsty you know he was not omnipresent he was not omniscient in the sense Luke chapter 2 talks about how he grew in wisdom and in stature so it was not as if the Lord Jesus when he was born like he was speaking fluent you know whatever Aramaic or Hebrew language he grew in wisdom and stature he asked us to comprehend right how can that be so Mary must have taught him this is an apple this is an orange and he's learning those things so the thing is that though he did not cease to be God he chose to walk on the earth he emptied himself made himself of no reputation let's read that verse again yeah thanks Nina, fully God and fully man yes so let's read that verse again so who being in the form of God did not consider its robbery to be equal with God but made himself of no reputation and that he emptied himself of of laid aside the powers of deity as he walked on the earth but he walked in the power of the Holy Spirit okay now John chapter 1 we go to John chapter 1 and verse 14 let's look at that quickly John chapter 1 and the Word became flesh and we and dwelt among us and we beheld his glory the glory as of the only begotten of the Father full of grace and truth glory as the only begotten of the Father and of the as of the Son so what does glory mean so we need to understand that what does glory mean that's again the word that we use as believers glory be to God and they just shout out the excitement glory, hallelujah etc so what does glory mean that word doxa it just means who God is and what he does who God is and what he does so when we say the glory as the begotten talks about who God is and what he does let me read that verse again and we beheld his glory we beheld so John is saying we saw the glory we saw the glory of the Son we saw who he was and what he did we saw the glory of the Son and we use the word doxa which is used for for God the glory as of the only begotten of the Father full of grace and truth so when we say doxa it means a manifestation a making apparent display what is a display in many of our homes we have a display we put all the cups medals all the medals are there what are those my son is good in sports this is what he won you put it on display it's like a museum sometimes so it's to put on display for all to see when you put it on display it's like to see this so John is saying we saw the display of who this Son was Son of God was we beheld we saw his glory as of the only begotten of God so just hold on to that doxa who God is and what he does so when we when we see that the Lord Jesus brought on the earth so let's go to John chapter 17 so it says here John chapter 17 the Lord is praying to the Father Jesus spoke these words lifted up his eyes to heaven and said Father the hour has come glorify your Son that your Son also may glorify you as you have given him authority over all the flesh that he should give eternal life to as many as you have given him and this is the eternal life that they may know you the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you have sent I have glorified you on the earth I have the finished the work which you have given me to do and now very important look at this verse and now oh Father glorify me together with yourself with the glory which I had with you before the world was ok so in other words a lot is saying Lord I have been walking with this you know if you can call it sonship glory on the earth now Lord I am finishing the work glorify me together with yourself with the glory which I had with you before the world was so what does that mean yeah so what do we understand we share the same glory yes at creation and the Lord is very specifically saying you glorify me now so which means that he is saying that I am walking in a different glory now on the earth right and John is also saying we held his glory as of the only begotten Son of God so he is walking in what we can say a son as a glory of the son or the sonship glory ok who God is the manifestation of who God is and what he does he is walking in that sonship glory but is not with the glory that he had at you know when the world was formed there is a difference right so he himself says it in as many words ok so ok let me just look at a few comments here yeah basic English is that you know glorify but then you look at this I am just referring to sori's comments yeah when you look at the Greek word doxa that is specifically you know referring to the glory of God right manifestation of God and his attributes right ok yeah thank you for all those comments ok so I guess we will stop here and we will continue and you might have more questions later but it's important for us to understand you know this aspect of the ministry of the Lord Jesus which will really enable us to understand the ministry of the Holy Spirit through and to the believer as well ok ok thank you we will stop here God bless