 तान्दव के बाद, the INB ministry has gotten so actively involved and there is such a strong surveillance on everything and the censor will probably control the OPD as soon as possible my 16th film was shot for 10 years it started and ended one film was shot for 80% and it ended then I was making a film in Yashraj for 3 years and it ended a BJP has also become so monster please we are we have come with our fear of 80 years they were so scared that they will kill us that we will end them now it comes from fear so fear is actually everybody's biggest enemy and this is something I was telling people in every interview that I came in January 2003 actually 17th November that's almost 15 years I said when I got down on Dadar that day and someone told me brother in 2017 you will have a release before that nothing will happen to you I will go straight back thank you so much for talking to us my name is Satyam I am from NewsClick and this is our series of interviews for NC Hangout which we are doing with you it is our weekly show and we talk to such people every week which we feel is a commendable work in the field of cinema in the field of art in the field of theatre in writing first of all I will ask you the same question that Joram I had talked to Nezishan a few days back so he told us a lot about Joram you tell us where did the story come from is it also written and directed by you written also by you so let's talk about Joram one thing I write in all my films this is a weird thing which a person writes and someone else comes and sees it I can't understand this all the greatest I think filmmakers across the world whether it is America or any other country especially Europe if you don't write on paper then how will you sit in your mind for it to be the truest vision on screen so I get asked this often and I say that any director who really needs to make a good film first he will have to write his own film he will not have to write from anyone else so this material and this politics around development displacement of Adivasi and we without asking permission from them take their land from the land iron ore and bauxite take out their urban life the things they make this thing I have been bothering for almost 20 years in 2010 I travelled those areas to understand the ground reality that a lot of things while being reported while coming to the city it gets very mangled that picture that you never get so I travelled and I just travelled for I think 6 weeks but in 2010 it was February and it was 13 years and I had stories for the rest of my life so since then in films this is my second feature around the situation it was my first film which was never released which I converted in a novel Young Adult novel 3 years ago I made 2 short films about this situation so somewhere from politics the first impulse came then you want more people to watch this film and understand this situation and move on so I tried to make a more accessible film a thrilling film because the artistic and politically politics should be in the forefront only less people will watch it and the same people will watch and appreciate who already agree with you so this film those people will watch it one circle of people will watch it and this film they will try to go out of the circle and all those people should watch it and think about things which don't agree with us and start a dialogue I was watching Manohar Vajpayee's interview he said that he is a director director of revolution because of my career and then I made a mistake so you are a revolutionist I am a revolutionist but I don't let him watch as soon as he comes to my face then the dialogue ends he doesn't want to talk in front of me if he doesn't agree with me and through my films I always try to talk to those people who don't agree with me otherwise what is the point of art because we will keep talking in that echo chamber and I get asked this also doesn't an artist change the world I am like no an artist can't change the world until the artist goes beyond his art his art I mean what he believes is his art so in my writing in my in my books I have written many books children's books there I can be a little more creative because the people who are laughing at me these days people don't even read so there I am a little more unfiltered and a little more free I present myself as unfiltered but in films my primary effort is to start a dialogue so there like I said the initial impulse is krantigari but after that by the time we reach the film how are you presenting so many people are also connected so a Manoj Vajpayee a Zeeshan Aayu and crew and a Zee studio such people are connected so it is expanding with Manoj you have already worked with Manoj worked in Tandav and this is the third film how much are you going to use them and what do you think how much effort basically Manoj Vajpayee as an actor he is the only reason I keep working with him is because if you look at them you can make them anything how physically if you look at other actors who are in the same star kind of category as him they do so much that they look a little surreal and if you are an old constable or an old man or a character you want to create you will not be able to fit that gym body in it that push and pull remains so much that it does not make sense in my film so it is so normal that if you do not know that he is a star he will pass in front of you you will not even recognize him like there is a shot in Bhosle where we put him in the middle of 70,000 people pull out we took 60 takes no one can recognize him that is the biggest superpower he brings to my films because I need him so be surreal that you forget that you are seeing Manoj Bajpayee so very good so that is one thing that he brings so film to film that empowers my stories tell me something how did you pitch how did you bring Zeeshan Joram and Manoj you talked to him first years ago so when we we talked about Bhosle in 2014 the first time we met so it did not happen many times the setup started then it closed so during that time I made 4-5 short films in 2015-16 and it became very viral you said make a short film with me I did not know you wanted to make it so we made Tandav it opened the door from Tandav so when we were making Bhosle I had this script Joram's so he said if you have something else then tell me we will keep doing it absolutely no one has ever told me such a thing so I gave him this to read so he only then I think in 2016 in 2016 he said yes after Ajji someone said Ajji was a very good film yes but that film was only seen in niche circles so much that accessible mainstream audience did not see as much those circle people think many people say that it was a big hit but it was not those people outside the circle I consider it a mainstream film I mean on Netflix I also made a mainstream film I believe I made it but there was no market ok until a known face comes they know that it is a thing that the system has not been able to get out of it a known face does not exist they do not market and Ajji was not a known face so there were some shadows so people do not call it mainstream they call it alternative cinema they call it a lot of art house and I try to make them believe that I have made a very mainstream film there is only one face because there is no face you do not consider it as mainstream so because of Manoj all those things opened you believe parallel cinema alternative cinema art film those things which I do not do especially in today's time it has become so overlapped even in America stars have come in the indie movement those indie directors when Steven Soderbergh after the sex lies and videotape he became a studio filmmaker but in that too if you look at the traffic the traffic there is a lot of artistic aesthetic so you will call it an art house film or mainstream what will you call it will be very difficult now to pull the lines in the Indian context if we talk about it in the Indian context this was not a concept except for the late 70s early 80s the movement of 6-8 years because it was a very strong movement which was rejecting mainstream but I think in my humble opinion it ended because it was rejecting it was really a revolution so when you reject like Syed Akhtar Mirza Syed Mirza was a little accessible like Shyam Benegal Govind Nihilani I will talk about them and their films have actually shaped me Akrush has shaped me but today I will make them so I will exclude a very large part of the audience so what is the benefit of that because today our politics has become so complicated and so terrible I think we need to have more dialogue we cannot exclude because anyway our community and our system is being excluded at least we as artists have become a little inclusive so I think these lines it will be better to erase them so I actually enjoy confusing people they think mainstream I have made an artistic film artists think I have made a big mainstream film so neither the artists accept me nor the mainstream and like Joram is coming because Zee Studios has been met and all the festivals are calling it an indie film so I I will not break their rum like Zee Studios made an indie film it is a very good thing if you think how can a studio indie film be made because its definition is non studio film exactly so you think because we have not allowed these words these words have come from America even there the small indie films that are made are made by a fox searchlight they are done in a studio so what is the end that is the artist's prerogative the artist decides how artistic and how accessible and it is very difficult to draw lines and I enjoy that so then you cannot decide your audience so your audience suddenly it was not released for 3 years suddenly in the lockdown Sony Live started its first release it was viral I saw it in Habitat yes it was the best screening in Habitat but Sony Live we did not expect that it will be viral so no one could say that it is a mainstream film that it is artistic film did you approach all platforms apart from Sony no one and Sony too did you approach no so these producers and between Sony were talking Sony Live what is when it will come no one knew suddenly it was created and it was released and it was launched and it was very good that was just a stroke of luck but the fact that nobody could call Bhosle an art house or a mainstream film was a lot of fun for me that you do not put it in boxes now see if you like it then you do not like it let us talk about the beginning your beginning meaning where you were born where you were taught and in films in writing because you do a lot of things you just gifted me a poetry book no a book of short stories ok ok that short story but you also write poetry I write poetry you write anthology this year published you have written novels also I have written novels and you make films you have written I have also done graphic art I have also done solo art 15 years ago and some I have also done I have also done pictures yes I was a dancer in school and college and I was the lead singer of my band so a lot of things so I was confused did you act? yes so I was a part of a theatre group in Calcutta ok let us start from the beginning I am enjoying a lot so I am from Calcutta yes I was born in Calcutta my parents my whole family is Sindhi both my parents were born which is now known as Pakistan and it happened there in the partition everyone came here so a lot of the conditions of my refugee family were born so I was confused I used to do all the things in school I was in the band I was in the dance team were you in Calcutta? yes I came to Bombay I was 24 ok so school college I worked for 3 years advertising to break the bill school college all that happened in Bombay all that I did not give anyone what are you talking about art art art yes so in Calcutta school college yes so I did a lot of things I did theater photography then I went to advertising because I liked writing and art so I was an art director copy writer I was the only one who was a team I myself used to write and I used to do my art so I thought maybe in advertising I got to do all these things but in 2-3 years I was interested because there was an ad for which I got an award there was a hoarding because in Calcutta advertising then motion work was not there only print work still only still so I was standing under the hoarding for 2 hours and this is 2002 people were coming were going and I was thinking that no one knows that I made this so nothing will happen to me as an artist in advertising I literally on a Thursday I was sitting in an unreserved compartment and I was in Dadar station that Thursday Friday I did not come I broke from inside as an artist I have to do more I have to get a lot I will not be able to do in Calcutta you had the resources then I did not have the resources my mother had just passed of cancer and our last money was spent on treatment so I left my father alone in Calcutta and I came so I slept at Gurgaon station for 3 nights all those struggle things I am a cliché I am a lot of struggle things I remember there is no struggle I see they said one place recently everything is getting real viral all the actors are sharing all the things which have become successful they share yes it does not happen and you are saying that there is no struggle out of 100 people in Ninyan they don't make it and it's not like they were less talented because when I came I was also thinking that I will make my own destiny by saying something but my 16th film was shot in 10 years what is it? it started and it stopped one film was shot at 80% and it stopped then I was making a film in 3 years in Yashraj and it stopped and you came to Mumbai in January of 2003 okay as soon as I came I worked on Black Friday I was lucky there I met Anurag and I had done 6 months of crime journalism also okay with Asian age they said search for something Asian age jigna war no I am talking about Calcutta okay and I am talking about 2001 2001 okay so where will I do as soon as I entered I understood that there is a lot of things to do in this then I assisted him on the script then I assisted on the film so that was my film school for 1.5 years after that I was associate director on Bunty and Bubbly okay surprisingly Black Friday, Bunty and Bubbly so within between those 2 films I realized that there is a spectrum here it's not this or this there is such a big space in the middle and you can occupy that space anywhere so both of them were my schooling so after that which film were you making with Yashraj so he had a tie up with Walt Disney of 2 films the first film was Roadside Romeo okay animation film yes it was not Saif Ali Khan yes it was my second film and in animation production it was 3.5 years and Disney Yashraj was saying that Roadside Romeo but it was too much in front I think the trailer was released no no I am not talking about Roadside Romeo I am talking about the second film okay Roadside Romeo was released yes and Walt Disney at that time in the history of 76 it was his first flop and he had repeatedly said that he is not working on this script but it was a tie up so it was a good show but I was depoting in LA John Glacitor who runs Pixar and with my film he had big dreams but because he got upset they broke the tie up and my 3.5 years got zero although I had a 3 film deal so I left I said who do you call 3.5 years so in 3.5 years career ends so I said I will come back but let me go now okay then I went 36 times Urissa and Andhra then you did politics research I had all these things inside me but I was making an animation film so I then I left that journey I started a new journey so during that time I came in 16 films producers then actors also came like I said 80% shoot his name was Bhoomi in which I was a writer and co-director and all of this was stopped one after the other then I thought there is something to say coming back to the movie 99 out of 100 people don't make it it's not that they weren't working hard or they weren't talented they weren't working hard in their fate I can say this in retrospect they are believing it I can't help it I have seen failure and I have seen so much failure that I realized that no matter how hard I tried I couldn't have changed my destiny so somewhere in 2014 then when Manoj met me it was a joint destiny but my life changed my short films suddenly became viral I made 5 short films in a year because of Tandav Tandav became Ajji because of Ajji because of Bhosle so somewhere things started changing but when Ajji got made in 2016 and this is something I was telling people in every interview that I came in January 2003 and in 2017 in November Ajji was released that's almost 15 years I said that day I was on Dadar and someone told me brother in your destiny 2017 is the release nothing will happen to you I would have gone straight back so the production houses or the big people whose hands are there to make films or to help films are you angry with them? no absolutely and that anger is in Ajji Ajji is a very angry film so when people ask is that anger that anger of the old woman I am like yes within the the daira of that film outside that I am not a 60 year old woman so I don't know how that anger physically feels so the anger against the system I give it as a gender in their via film but that anger absolutely I saw Bhosle and when Ajji too saw one thing which I remember maybe you had talked about this in the habitat screening about the stray cats or stray dogs in your films and I don't know how much you used in Joram but whatever was shot in Mumbai in both the films you have used them a lot and it is not that it feels made up that you have kept the trained animals they know that these are the animals on the road and they live here what is the reason for that I can talk about this for a day I can talk for 24 hours I don't like that answer I mean I know what was the answer I just wanted to want you to tell me a little detail if I if you if you allow I will just take a few steps back absolutely to this I am assuming but every artist who throughout their career tries to be more or less true with his art a a strange spiritual channel opens up through your art and this I like Kafka Vangoff those artists who were very tortured I pushed them I have just read and tried to understand them so deeply to see did they go through what I am going through and I realized a lot of them had this strange channel that was opening up which most of them can't explain in words so when that started happening with me I found that I could communicate with the animals and I generally like animals every creature other than man I feel drawn to all means sub chuha,billi,chipkali jok sub snail sub snake I am not scared of snakes I am fascinated very fascinated very fascinated I am still a net geo I am still a net geo I am still a net geo I am still a net geo I am still a net geo I am still a net geo watching youtube at 3pm what are snake videos except seeing them at the stir if you if you meet them at the stir they are so scared they will scare you if you meet them at the stir they are stronger you are not going to harm anyone they are not born to harm they would harm you they don't want to attack they don't want to attack if I am at the liberty to speak openly परटिक्स एक भीजेपी भी अब यतनी मून्स्तर बन लिए है क्यों कि पूँ थो अब तु है यह आंप यह आंप आप आपना दर लेक रहा हैं औव यतने दरे हूँए ते की यह आंको खतम कर देगी यह दूसरी कोम की हम अब दाख्षस बन कर तो एक क्रोड में में आनिमल रेंगलर तो लाई नी सब ता तो मैंने अपनी टीम को तेयार किया, उचोल जाएम शूट करने गय, तो मैं कई दिन शूट के पहले मैं बार-बार गया मापे और मैं कुत्तो के साथ दूस्ती करने गी कोशिष करी, जब 40-50 लोगे क्रूके आजाएंगे, वो तो एक दंबिखर जाएंगे, तो तो तो तो इन्टमिटीटीटीग एक एनेजी, तो मैं केप गुईं, केप गुईं, तो मिग दंप्ष्वडबल, की शुट के वक ये लोग रहेंगे या आपे, और कुई इंको बहगाएगा नहीं, और सब कुई शान्त रहीं, तो मैंने उंको शान्त कर के इंवोल्फ कर लिया, और अजी जो मारी ती सुश्मा देश्पान्दे, उंको कुट्तो से बहुत दर था. तो मैंने उंको कहा, you just trust me and you just do your thing, आप रियाक्त मत करू, ये आपना काम कर जाहीं। और अशा हुए की शुट के दिन जभवे रहां को रब कोँम रहीं है, जुई रहीं चीजें जार यहें, अज़ावले के स्वण्ट् अजद शाइट पे, यह कुट्ते खुदबखवा जाथे, और मेरे एदीस थोड़े पनिक हो जाते की यार अगले टेक में नहीं आई तो लेग भरोसा रखना पड़े आगा. अब वो मेरे हाद में नहीं नहीं, मेरे हाद पे भी तहन्ने हो रहा हैं की, की ये कन्तिमिविटी मेंटें नहीं कर रहा हैं तो एदिट पे मेरी ही लगने वाली आई आब लोग तो रहो गे नहीं बभरोसा रखते हैं. और यही ही हूँँ, कुछ टेक्स में ते, कुछ टेक्स में नहीं नहीं ते. और हम गवराय हूँए ते, मैंने ब़रोसा रखता है, तो पुरी तरा रखना बड़ेगा. और एदिट में, जब हम एदिट कर रहे थे, मेरे एदिटर नहीं का हा की, क्या करूँ, मैं उनके लिए, उनकी कंतिनुटिक्रे कुट करूँ, मैं बुला नहीं, तेच कुछ बढ़ा फुल श्टरी दिट ने क्या होता है। और उआप टेक्स जो रही, उन्में कुपते ते, चुड निकल गए, उन्में कुपते मही ते. ब्रोंक्ते कद्वर मैं बुलते है। बिजार, हमने प्लन नहीं किया, हमने सर भरोसा किया, एक सक्ट्ली वो कन्तिनुटिए देकर उनहीं गुट टेक्स में ते, आसा जे चे टेक्स हुए, मैंने एक टेक रख्खा, बाकी पाच टेक में कुपते नहीं जे, इस लाइक उनको पता था कुन सा टेक में रख्चे रहा लों? बूसले, तु बूसले में, कुटे तु ते ही उस च्ल में, बूसले के साथ मैं, तीं चार सब टेक्स बिटाना चाथा ता ठार, कवों का, एक चूहों का, और बिल्लियों का. तो चूहे और कूवे तो स्केवंजर्स हैं और उंकूवो का एक पास्त लाइप का एक कनेक्षिन, अग देत्त के सात एक कनेक्षिन हैं, तो मैं, as metaphor and motifs उनको उस कर रहा था, but with cats, like I did with dogs and Ajji, I wanted them to be the silent observers of Bosle. तो same rules, I said की कोई सदन बूबमेंज नी करेगा, उनको आने दो, हम जब खाएंगे उनको भी खिला, उनको कुप्ष्टबल कर दो, because we are 60-70 people here. वायर्स हैं, लाइट्स हैं, चिल्डम चिल्डी हैं, वो रहेंगे नहीं यहापे, unless you make them very comfortable. तो पूरी क्रूँ ने दोस्टी कर लिएं बुल्दियों के साथ, और जिन को दर था, उस फिलंके बाद नका दर लिएं. तो, the cats were almost like a part of the crew. And those moments, that one moment when Bosle sits in front of Ganpati, in silence, I didn't plan the cat. That was a gift from somewhere. We started rolling and that cat entered. And slowly she started coming closer, not that she is coming closer. She is building her comfort with Bosle. And when Cita enters, the cat-gets-up gives me a crossing and leaves. I didn't plan that. See this was city animals, in this traps method I have made my tekrar, but I couldn't do it, तो क्या चल्ड़ा है, पूल्तिक्स में? या चल्ड़ा है? देश की. जू बना के रग देश के हु. जंगल होता, तब भी देश होता है, इस भी रप लिबिश ना. तो महराच में तो आप रहे हूँ, आपको हरतरग एंटरेटेम्मों मिल्गा. तुब आप की बन रहीग, नहीं से ञ�ज़ा मेंटौर्फाँग, अप्की पोडिक्स में किता में नलतटेउमेंटौर्फाँग मनहींग महींग बर बाद चीम मिलता है, फिर फिर, वह दो सालवा च्धानी जआता है तर देखो यह आप आप ऐन्ट्रेटेन्मीन क तर देख सब दुखी हम एक भहलती प्रिडिब़ेजद श्पास में भेटेःे हैं और हमारे जानकि लाले नहीं हैं, बगर जिनके हैं, वोखो यह पना अप अपने नहीं लज्टेन वेग। अबिस्टि मतल पमें यह तेखाद्साते पूईतरी बगाईचा दूता है, अगा अगा वोग। तो यह आगी की आप आप अजी लोच है, आप बजेप पूविया है, यह शब बाजेद एक भोग, अगा उठाब बगाईचा यह आप आप आप पूवाग पूवाग. ॐू०.ॗॐ।। ॉौ। ौ। ु।।।।। ौ। पहले से ज़ादा ड़ी है, पहले से ज़ादा ड़ी है, कि वो तांदव जो शो के साज जो हूँ आमीजन्ते साज, उसके पहले तब भी कोई रिसकी बिसिशन्स ले रहे थे हो, और, even if it was in a small way, in a token way, in a sacred games, in all the shows, in Patal Lok, this is an attempt to put politics in it, but after Tandav, the INB ministry has gotten so actively involved, and there is such a strong surveillance on everything, and the sensor will probably control the ODD very soon, that there is fear, and the auto censorship is so strong that by reaching the material, you have become so autosensor that the censorship doesn't work later. जो रम में है सागुज तो अपको लगता है कि, development politics, we have openly told that in the last 2-3 years, thousands of hectares of forest land have been cleared like this in North-East or East India, without being mentioned in the parliament. तो इं सागी चीजों के तो हमें खुल के बात की है, but that is the miraculous thing, that's why I said that there are some people in 100 who have the courage to back a film, back one such film once in a while, and hopefully that film makes a difference, तो में वो फिर दाइत वो मुच्पे आजाता है, to make it as accessible as possible, तुछी मैं असको यतना नीष कर दूगा, तो फिर जी का नुक्सान होगा, तो कही ना कही, वो मुझे मोका दे रही यह जी, to make a film that's accessible, I'm going to try to reach out to as many people as possible. तो तब आपकी जब फिल्मे शेल मुझी तब यह सब यह से की लोग वरोसा नहीत है, यह अची बना पाएंगे के नहीं बना पाएंगे. यह एक रहाँ अलग कारन था, एक वोस्टिक्स आपकी कभी कारन रहा है. 2011 में ही यह स्टूडियो सिस्टम पूरी तरा इस अंडस्टी को तेखोवर कर गी. उसके पहले एंटिपनें प्रदुसरस ही ते, आपकी एश्डाज लोग दर्मा भी एंटिपनें प्रदुसरस दे. तो सारी फिल्मे, इंटिबिज़्ुल अंटिटीस ती जो पैसे डालगती. तो किसी के पैसे आते आते नहीं है, किसी के शाएड अंदरवल के पैसे थे, तो उनको भी दमकी मिली, तो वो बैखाूड कर गय, क्या मालों? पर तो हर फिल्म पे अलग कहानी ती. तो इंटिपिल्म प्रदुसरस के साथ वो थोडा रिसक रहता है, किकि वो आज उनके हात में पैसा है, तो चै मेंने बाद वो रिले स्टेट में डालगती है. तो अभी बना सकते हो तो बना हो, स्तार मिली या आपको तो बना हो. तो बहुत सारे बहुत सारे परामीटर से है, जो आपके कन्ट्रोल में लिए नहीं होती. कभी लोगने अपके फिल्म बनाने के लिए मना किया है, योगी आपके पुल्टेक्स बहुत साथ है. वो मुब पे तो कभी नहीं गयते. कभी विन? आपको पता जला है? बलको पता चला है. अछ़ों पाचली पिछले तीन छर सालों लों तान्धव के बाद. कोन लोग? बड़े लोग. नहीं नहीं नहीं बड़े लोग. क्यों कि ल्ए है आईन्भी मिनिस्ती के साब के साथ मीटिन्स करती. और सब को... यों सर्कार भी मैंने सी एक ताईम पी देगा था. कोई जों को बलाए दे हैं लोगन. बिल पताने के लिए की देवों वितने खायदे है. और वो जो सेल्फी लिए ग़ी ग़ी ग़ी साथ. वो आसी कोनवोज़ीशन्स तो उस चीस की आएड में होती. तो बिल कुल है की पिछले चार साल में उन प्रेशर तो बड़े-बड़े लोगों पे even more है ज़ादा है. की कि युकी आप आप एक शोटी फिल्म 10-15 क्रोड की बनावोगे और तो साल में उसकी रिलीज हो जाएगी आप कमाल होगे आप बज जाोगे. आप बज जाोगे बड़ागर आप का हप का हप का हदार क्रो राइड करा इंड़स्टी के युक आप दाप मच मोड लुज तो उनपे आप प्रेशर तो कही जादा बनावागा. आप आखषे कुमार जो की खीरली भी सबोज तो गोरमेंग, बट पीपल लगा मिर्खान, आशारुख खान, तो वो जब जागर, आशारुख ने अभी अभी अपनी वोईस्टी पारेमेंट वाले के लिए, तो ही वोस क्रिटिसाइस दे लोड या. और बज़े सिटारे अपनी वोग़े ना कुमार जोड भागगे पारेमेंग, बन वरी बबबी ले आप वोग़े बच्छम भी वोग़े पाली फिल्म सी एक साक बापर बेटिगी. तो क्या आप आगे करना चाते है काम, कहनी अज़ा अपके फाज रेडी. अदी. भीगक्ल। सा लो से है. but आप यह टिपदे है कि मेरी हल कहईइ में यो । comedy में एँ। two comedies में हैं. आप लेव यह वॉद थी हैं विश्छाता मैं की मैं पुलेटिक्स तो होगी।. अबस्छ! मैं पुलेटिक्स को डलग रग कर बन नहीं बना बावहु loende. उस्व्यट्यो आपनी और वोईस नीला पाँईगा तु फिल्म पिट ही जाएगी एक दीशा नी होगी उस्विल्गी तू उगो क्या च्ट्गल्स हूँँँँँ आभी दिक ने कर बाँँँँँँँक्रूँँँँकि चार पाच चे साथ साल पहले तक ये दुनिया अलग थी जब अजी और मेरी शोट्वन बनी वन येर आपड़द of BJP came to power. तो उसके पहले मेरी फिल्मे शेल हुए नहीं और because of the politics of it, because of other reasons. और आपड़ तो BJP came to power, my films have been getting made, but they are small films. I never came back to the Yashodal space that I was in. आई बवाउ लिए देव आप लगदिया था। I don't know what struggle is. उदर से होता है खुछ अफर आता है कि आव काम करो होग पल बाड शे? कि बलकुड होता है. जबसले रिएस हूँ, 26 जुन 2020 मुझे भीज ने देड याड अगे कि उसके बाद एक अपते तक, मुझे बुत सारे बड़े अखोजा है, बड़े-बड़े शोग का शोडणर हूना, और मैं हर खाल जो आता था, मैं हर इनसान को कैता ता मेरे पास सोला स्क्रिट से, सूल लो, मुझे आसे हर चीस पे अटेछ करनी कोशी श्मत करो, युगी तुम भोसले देख कर मुझे काल करो, तुम को कुछ तो दिखा होगा वापे, और वो मेरी वोईस है, तुम मुझे शोपे अटेछ कर के मेरी वोईस को मार ले, अगर किसी को मेरी स्क्रिट्ष नी सूलनी थी, मुझे अटेछ करना था, युगी शुडीो एकजेक्रिटटिप देड दो गजोब, इंका काम है कि ये गाडी बनानी है, पुरजे करता ता दो, पुरजे अटेछ करो, गाडी बन जाएगी, तो आप दस कुना और बड़े होगै, तो with this, the doors are already open. My options expand. Now, will someone have the vision and the courage and the empathy to allow me to make my film my way at that scale? I don't know. But in this industry, in Bombay's industry, there is one thing lacking which you will see in Kerala, in Bengal, in Assam, in Brotherhood. वो सारे film makers एक दुस्रे की फिल्मों फे प्रडुसर होते है, राइटर होते है, directors act कर जाते है, just to empower each other. तो आपको यहानी है यहानी है यहानी है सा, अनुराल नी किया है, तिगमान्शु की फिल्मे काम? अकेला अनुरागी ता, जिस ने उस यह स्पिरित तोडा इंफुस करने की कोशिष करी, बाकी बहुत कम करते है, तिगमान्शु भी करते है, अनुराग की फिल्मे काम करते है, but as a job, you will go to Kerala, ये लोग, they come in as co-producers, don't take money and they do a role, so that the film gets empowered. वो स्पिरित बहुत लेकिन है, निक आई लाये ये वाला फिरग लगी, फिरग मतल आए सी दोस थी यह यसा कमपेन आप, ने किम फिरित है, यह बहुत कम रहे है आप है, वो स्पिरित है लिए वाला मागना पडे तु फिर, वो कही नहीं लेक, बहुत बडी, इरेनी है शहर में की ये शहर इस देशग का फनिनश्ल खब्डिलने है और थे आप भ्ताने हैं यक आमेरिका में लेए हो लीझर् क्यो जुडा है डाई तो गरने off करे अद करने नीयुयाग जाते हों पैसे कमाने एले जाते हों, अद अद यह टिड़ास्टीगे लोग है, कर्रला में फो इसम्पल आपको चीस नी दिके है, एक फिनेन्च्यल अपसेशिन नहीं है लोगं का, पैसे बनाती है फिश्गे जाते है, आप अप कर ते हो बरदर, बरदर हुट केगी तो यहाप येपे एप यो वोण तो जो साँने गरादी नहीं फूलित है, यहाप धिलग, एकोषोच्न्त्मट्य, आप भी थरे बगलने से. ॏकि और छीज़ा खराधी मैक्समियते हो लेकर लीग than it is Sort of a profit maximization towards it's oriented further. और ये सारे लोग, अनुराग में दिस्टगल की, विक्रम मुत्वानी दिस्टगल की, जब तक आप एक फेस नी लागते हो अपकी फिल्टी वंपी. तो वो केरला में तो नहीं है, आप द्रेक्टर को कास्ट कर के उसको फेस बना देते हों. ओो हिम्मत आप रकते हो. भर यहा औब वहुत मुऊषकिल है रहा. And somewhere because, if I just finished my part, because, अनुराग अन तिगमाशु वॉदीर अनहाँसल यह औरडी तुप्तूँझिमस्... वो तोड़े चार पाज लोग एक सात एक लड़ाए लड़ आते विशाल. things became a little easy for the rest of us. जिस तरीके की फिल्मे मैं आज बना रहुं, मैं शाएग इस इस किबार में सोची नी सकता अगर इन पाच लोगोने तब फाट्ट्नी मारी होती. वर उसके बाद मुजे ये एनरजी फिर कभी दिखी नहीं। अप इनकी फिल्मे देक्ते हो, आप फिल्मे देक्ते हो एसे. बहुत कम. और ओटी टी, वेब सीभी री, बी सबस्स्ट्र्स्यों भी में बना ड़ास, तो इनकी फिल्मे, आपने जोगी दूस्त हैं जेंके अपको लगताए, लोग of writers and filmmakers, तेर work start suffering तुकि इतने गंते हर दिंके वो देदेते हैं, देखनेगो. बिल्द्यों द्रिंग करते हैं. पटलब चे हैमने में एक बार बहुत कम. तो बगड़ से आदर्ष आर्टिस्ट होना हम तो वल्खों सोब बर ना दी गये नहीं जाता था. śniej girl, 216 years old, I got heart attack in 2010 अगर, न ससठ्हां adventures यह झोंड blind ठावग� Masters तो वो बश्वेर के लिए आपकटे, तो बशीबूँभागा लिए। हाटिटाक्ते बारे में सूगता. नहीं, जन्रल बाद करके. जन्रल फीमर तो वर कर आरे आपका. चालिस मिनद बाद निकला है, लिकन निकना जरूँ. वो अंगली गी है, तो वो निकला है. जन्रल बतावों ये सेखमेंत है मारे, आम पान सवाल पूछते हैं. और जन्रल बतावों, ये सेखमेंत काम नहीं नहीं नहीं नहीं नहीं सोचा है. तो हम कुष तोचरे थे पहले फिर नहीं नहीं वरत नहीं किया. तो हम तो पान सवाल है. तो जाडा आपको तफसील से बताना हो गिसी के भी बारे मैं बता सकते है. तब तक मैं बापस जाल तो बार ती आता उनी के लिए. उस शेहर में लोग उसको बहुत रोमैंटिसाइस करते है. है, कुछ बहुत प्यारी चीजें, इस इस्टोरी सिटी अद इस कुल्चर, वो तीन से चहे दिन लास्ट करती है. सात वे जिन से आपको उसका रोट दिखेगा, कुछ रे के बाद कुछ किया नहीं वोने, रे को लेकर पक्रे बहुते है। आप जो जो जो एक फ्रीडम है प्रीडी में, वो जो जो जिस चनल की बात कराता है, वो चनल एक तम अनहिंड़ है प्रीडी के लिए, वो भाद कर दे सब को आप, वो दो रहारे बास उस लेग, भो ऐसे तो नहीं हो भी लिए. differently they be You know the answer because OTT has made me To answer this OTT has made me my films Don't stand a chance in theaters never released in theaters mostly never saw the inside of theatre except for festivals yet what the OTT space cannot provide is that experience of a community which is fromMap from जो मैं बहुत मिस करता हूँ आर्ट मैं विकि मैं अग अटीटी फिल्मेकर भी हूँ कहलाता हूँ जिबके मेरी शोट्फुम भी सीड़ा यूटुप पे गगें बआट आई केम तु तिस आर्ट बकुस आद दिन वों तु भी सिटिग लिएन रूम तु वो कमिनूटी इस्पीर्टिटी से चलीगें तु तु दूनो अपना आत मिला लें और एक हाईबरिद एक परमिरेंट सुलुषिन निकल आए तु it would just benefit everybody मेरा आखरी सवाल अल्टरनेटिव और परलल सिनेमा या मेंस्चीम सिनेमा ता पर हम तो खाँचे में बाटी नी रहें तु मैं तो कभी नी पाटा लेंकी वो लाईंज डो करना ना असमवग हैं और अगर अम करें तु वी आर दिसरबस तु तु तु स्विश मेंगर से चलीए ये ये ताजी बहुत बहुत जाँद जागा अप सब आप करके बहुत खेल आप ये वुच छोँच ये हमारा केंवराय और ये तु अप ये वेंजर बहुत मजम आप बाट करके, यो वो बज़़्े को आप स्फ्सक्राइब करें और दिक ते रहें, कि योंकी इस कि ये आप को पैसे कि रेगगे रेगगें। जी भिड़्ग़् था. प्रघ्टा। फीड़। ख़ग़्। देखाँ, छ़ाए। शन्दše शवेश्ँद। शक्ळगे, शवबच्चाअप, जब ख़ग्दे। ताएएएएएएएएएएए