 I'm going to call the License Hearing and Public Safety Meeting to order roll call. Alderperson Bartfeldi, I am here. Dean Decker? Here. Alderperson Joe Heideman? Here. Alderperson Amanda Salazar? Here. And Betty Ackley, maybe late or excused. Pledge of Allegiance. Stand here, Abel. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. OK, we're going to go around and start with Dean. I'll wrap around the table to Attorney Adam's introduction of committee members. OK. I'm going in. Yeah, starting with you. Go ahead. I'm Alderperson Dean Decker from District 6. Alderman Joe Heideman, District 10. Alderperson Amanda Salazar, District 3. Alderperson Bartfeldi, District 1 and chair of the Common Council. Kathy Hoffman, city attorney's office. Denise Quaches, representative for Stefano and Whitney Vigiletti tonight. Jeff Selzman, assistant fire chief. Eric Machiano, fire chief. Chuck Adams, city attorney. All right. I need approval for the minutes of June 8th, 2022. So moved. Second. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, nay. Chair votes aye. Motion approved. Yeah, we're going to have a presentation regarding the new fire department engine 2021 capital improvement presentation only. All right. Take it away, chief. Right. So thank you, chair. So if it's OK with you and the committee members, I'd like to defer that to the end after you're done. We did bring the engine here. It's just parked at the station one parking lot. So just a hop, skip, and a jump away for a little roll. And we'd love for you guys to see it if you have time right after the meeting. No, don't drive. I didn't need it. I didn't need it. But I do want to say thank you truly for all the support. I know there were different members. Some of you were on there. So thank you for that. But I really, really appreciate all the support this committee gives us. So thank you for that. Dave and I were in a car accident last night. So we got to see your guys in action again. They didn't tell me. Really? I didn't tell them that I was on the city council. It was a three car. And we were both car sold, no damage. And nobody was injured in the accident, but fire truck came. I'm glad you're here. Yeah, that's twice within the last year I've used that. Let's make it a triple. No, no. OK, that was we'll do the presentation and at the end. Technically, if it's outside and since we have to record it, it'll be after the meeting. So if there's anything you need to say on the record, probably do it now. But if all you're doing is showing the truck, everybody can look at it. Yep, nothing other than my thanks on the record. Thank you. Perfect. No, thank you. Yeah, I appreciate it. OK, on to number seven, resolution number 31, 22, 23, 6, 2022, a resolution authorizing entering into an agreement for urban search and rescue emergency response services with the state of Wisconsin Department of Military Affairs Division of Emergency Management with regard to providing city of Sheboygan personnel to a statewide urban search and rescue team. Yep, thank you, chair. So the Wisconsin State Task Force or the Urban Search and Rescue as it's referred to here is basically a readiness team that can respond throughout the state or nationwide and in some cases internationally during an event of a disaster or crisis. If you all recall, the Florida condominium collapse that happened several months ago, that would be an example if our team were deployed there, the state could respond there for assistance and aid since that would be like a long period of time that help was needed. Hurricane Katrina, those kind of events. The team was active several years ago, then due to budgetary and changes in the dynamics of the legislature, the team was put on hiatus. The governor has given his support to bring it back up and running. So Assistant Chief Salisman is a part of that team. So what this is and what I'm requesting of you, you should have all had the contract. It looks like this, the Urban Search and Rescue. And there was a couple of highlights in there without any names in there. That's because this is almost the request in order to be put on a team. The attorneys had to approve this contract, which our attorney office, it's a statewide contract. So they read through it and had really no major issues with it. We can't change it anyways because it's a state contract. However, there's no name in our municipality section because I have to get approved for you to get it to counsel so I can get it to the state before horse. But it's just the process that this team and the state has for this. So once, if you guys approve and allow us to become members, our department members would also be trained by the state at no cost. So even though it's a cost right now for us to send them, it's all reimbursable. So there's no cost to the city or department. And then if they were deployed, there would be no cost to the city or department. Even though, I mean, we would pay obviously, their salary would never change over time for ship coverage would happen, but then the state reimburses us because we are members of the team. So it really is a phenomenal program for us because it gets our individuals trained to a higher level when it comes to building collapse, confined space, trench, and flooding. Flooding, so water, water is, yep. So all the gamut really paid by the state, but it helps us because then we have team members here that can help when we have a disaster or issue in the city. And then it's all reimbursable, even to ship coverage. So Jeff, do I have anything you wanna add on that? No, I think you hit everything. I think the real big benefit is it brings a lot of expertise inside the city so that if we have an event here, while we're not the whole team, at least we have people here that understand what's going on and how to organize those things. And as the people come in, then we'd be able to react better. So I'm looking for support. If you have any questions, I will be glad to answer. What's the total number of members of the team? So statewide, they're looking at, okay. So when it was first active, there was about 105, correct? Yeah, there are five. There's different typing, so there's types one through four. The type three team is 105 members and the reason for that is you work in 12-hour shifts. So they can work for 12 hours and then take 12 hours off. They're gonna be trying to move it up to a type two, which is capable of a 24-hour operation. So it'd be 210 members. Right now we're trying to get to the 105 first and then- Across the state. Across the state. Any fire departments? Yeah, statewide. How many is from our fire department? So because we would need to be an additional, like a new member, currently we're trying to get two, which is what we feel is our good number right now. Jeff would be a third, but he is more of an administrative aspect to that, which you need to be able to give direction on it. Kind of like what we do at the fire station on a daily basis, he would be able to be deployed as that kind of command role at a deployment. So we're looking for two members right now through this round and eventually when they get to that type two, we would hope to add two to three more. What they're trying to do statewide is kind of equal things out. They don't want the Milwaukee's, the Madison's, the Green Bay's to have all the players and that's it. They want it truly to be a statewide. So Green Bay, even though they have a large department, may not have more than 10 people, individuals on it, on the team, even though they have a larger pool. Milwaukee, same with that aspect. So they're trying to equal it out amongst everybody. And thank you. So yeah. So then Man of the Walk could have to, Final Act could have to, is there any determination on what size the community has to be? Are there any volunteer firefighters that are involved in this at the same time? So good question. Absolutely no bearing on the size of community or department other than the number of personnel that may be capped. If all the departments in the state want to be players in this, then they will cap the department. So again, not all the members come from one area or one large department. So they would cap that. If volunteer or career departments aren't interested in participating, then our numbers could go up because we're interested Green Bay's or Milwaukee's, Madison's, they can go up as well. You know what I mean? So yeah, but it is all over the state. They're looking at also developing a regional, regionalized team. So for various areas of the state, those teams might be deployed first there and then before you reach out. I think I read in there when I was reading through it, some places that five to seven, you know, that seems like almost a cap there. And I'm sure you don't want to leave your own fire department shorthanded. Right. Trying to cover. Right, because they could be deployed for two weeks at a stretch. Yeah, Green Bay right now has about 10 spots. They only have three members because of through attrition and retirements because this was put on hiatus for so long. So that's what I mean. They may not end up getting those 10 back because more departments want to be part of it. But yes, volunteers, combination, career, any fire department throughout this state is eligible to be part of it. It's all based on if they're willing to be part of the players. So thank you for asking. Any other questions? I just think this is a really good idea. I mean, it's the training itself and plus being, when you have a disaster, you need a team to be able to do something like that. You end up with a little collapse or something like that. You have to have it. So it's great that it's offered. It's a good idea. I think it's good that we're part of it. I'm sorry, just one other. Okay, so the people that you had for the city should be working to do it. Members of your fire department. Are they senior members of the fire department? Are they, you know, because all of a sudden then we're rotating, just like Green Bay doesn't have anybody in there. So you wouldn't want to have a situation where I suppose within your command or whatever, you have somebody that's already going to rotate into that spot once another person retires. So we never lose. So I can't speak about never losing that because when somebody retires, they haven't determined yet if they're going to go back to that department first to say, hey, you have a member retiring. Do you have anybody to replace them? That's what they're leaning towards. But they don't know. It depends on how many of this state fire departments are interested in participating. Because if they only a lot, like Green Bay and Ableton and across the bigger departments, if they only stick with their numbers, then you're not going to get a lot of new people in from other departments. And so that's part of the governor's request was we want a state wide. But what it's getting at was though, since you have personnel that are going to be assigned to it, if you have a guy that's retiring in two years, you wouldn't assign them to that because we don't have an AC. Who's this there? You're looking at somebody that has a little longer tenure. Little middle of the road. AC Salisman's got a plan. If we get the four or the five allotment, yes, he's got a plan. We want a little bit of seniority, but not too much. So we'll have a captain in it. We're going to have another lieutenant possibly go through. We didn't want all officers. So then we want a couple of firefighters who are interested. But we didn't want somebody that just started two years ago either because we still want them to develop here in the city and learn our department. So it is a mix. I think that's good career development and opportunity for your current staff. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, for sure. I think this is a good idea. Right. Any other questions? All right, this was, was it discussion? No, we have to pass this to go to the council. Please. I need a motion, please. I make a motion that we pass this on council. Second. All right, any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed to nay. And chair votes aye. Passes. Thank you for your support. Yeah, thank you. Always. All right. Number eight, discussion. Better go from the top. Sorry. Discussion impossible action regarding requests from alcohol beverage license number 2373, the Duke of Devon, for an extension under the city's continuation of business ordinance. So Denise is here just to make the request. Basically, this is a license that will very shortly be in violation. They actually might have run out between the time that they applied and the time you were able to meet. But in any case, it's, they're good for you to extend it if you want. As noted, typically what you do is you extend it for between 30 to 90 days, although it can be longer if you want to do that. They would technically begin July one just because that's the license here and you can't extend past the other license here. But we're good to go with that. And they can provide you any information or you can ask questions if you want, just totally up to you. Would you like to speak first? Or just have them ask the questions. Yeah, I mean, I think getting the store up and running has been our primary focus over the last several months and that's been very successful. And I know that the plan for the Duke is unfolding and taking shape now. So that's our next, shifted our focus onto that. So we're getting pieces put in place for that. And if you have any questions about where we are, those types of things, I can answer what I know off the top of my head. So that's the question. I guess that is my question is where are we, what are we looking at as a timeframe? And are we looking at months, six months, three months? Yeah, so I think you put a timeframe in the letter. We don't mind that in the letter. She said that we would like to be open by September. Right now we've just interviewed a couple of chefs and we're trying to put the rest of the staffing pieces in place. What we wanna do there, we have a very good foundation for, I think it's definitely gonna be starting out or as a venue location, where we are going to host events and those types of things. And then as we get the rest of the staffing pieces put in place, then we will be able to go back to running that as a full restaurant again. So by September, that's when we really do wanna open. And then I think she's asked to extend at least through November, just in case anything happens. I think we'll be there with the store as nothing ran as smoothly as we thought it was going to. But that's the goal right now. So the pieces are starting to fall into place. There's just still some pieces. We wanna do some construction around the building and those types of things. So just one thing I just wanna make sure that you understand, because we did have this run into this with one other applicant in the past. So the open for business ordinance does require that you're open to the public. So private events won't count against that. So is your, but is your November 15th date? That's your goal for being- Yes, we will be fully run, fully staffed. And I, yes, that is the plan. And hopefully that's by September, if not sooner, but that's the goal. So it's kind of both of you. So when the license run out? Wait, what? So- Right, like right now. Okay, so today. Yeah, I don't know the exact date. I'm just gonna say today. I don't think we knew these. Okay, well, this week, sometimes, in the end of June. So we say three months from now, we're looking at August, September, October, you're asking till November 15th as an additional 15 days. So we're asking for 100 and five days. I would ask for 120 days if I can. I will take the length that you can give me, essentially, if it's three months, it's three months. That's fine. I feel like we should be fair. It's a policy decision for you. You've typically done 30 to 90 days, but sometimes you've done longer. I would think 90 days should get you there. If that's what the council is willing to give us, we'll take what we can get. I will always err on the side of asking for more than I need because I just know going through the store that sometimes unforeseen things happen and you have to correct. That is really smart, right? But I think we have to be sort of consistent and equitable to all those coming in, asking for extensions. And if our consistency standard has been through, we'll give it 90 days. That's what we should do. But I would ask for 90. I would be okay with 90. Yep. I have one question. Thank you. I agree with the 90 days, no problem there. So just so I make sure that I understand. So does that mean that she has to hold events or open it within those 90 days to keep that? So that please do that. By September 30, they would have to be open to the public for a public. Right. Whoa. She's gonna go check it out. Oh, I think that was the... Okay. And again, I have to say, please do that. Because the last thing we want to go through is somebody telling us they had an open event that they didn't have an open event and then it just didn't work right, okay? I understood. I compare with Joe on that and don't wait till September 30th to have the open event. Like I said, the steps were just interviewed and so things are progressing. Again, just having gone through all everything with the store, I know that there are a myriad of things that can happen that you have to make adjustments for. So, but my communication back to Whitney and Stefano will be, hey, by the 30th, we've got to be up in front, so. Or we risk losing the license and have to go through another application process. Is that correct? So do we give 90 days right from... And when is that 90 days? It could actually be from July 1st, because you can't cross the year, so we're just gonna... By August, it would kill the end of September. By August, it would kill the end of September. Okay. One more mission. She, they have to have an event open to the public by the end of September, but they don't have to consistently stay open for five days a week. Right, so if you just, you can still sort of have your peak weekend and then do October feast and still like trickle into full operations. You could do it Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Got it, okay. I just wanted to make sure I said that a lot. Houston, I know you feel this obligation to be open Mondays or Sundays. But ideally, maybe just Mondays because nothing's open on Mondays. Oh, well, all of our customers. Well, yes, you're right. But we're always open on Mondays and now we're open on Sundays at the market, so make sure y'all come by. I do pay, I do go on Mondays. Okay, I will leave you. Well, since it was your thought, would you make a motion? Sure, yeah, I'll make a motion for the 90 day extension. Beginning July one. Beginning July one. I'll second that. Is there any other discussion? Or have we beat that up enough? Okay, all in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed nay. Chair votes aye. Mid passes. Appreciate that. Thank you all. You're welcome. Good luck. I'm going back to work now. Okay, bye. Wasn't this a nice morning? But the engine's out there. I will come by the station. Oh, like the kindergarten. Maybe she'll bring you a loaf of bread. Okay. Arrow number 25-22-23-6-20-22 by City Clerk submitting various license applications. And seven minutes before the meeting, we got the stuff that we needed from Watershed. So we are recommending that you grant all licenses on the arrow. I need a motion. I'll make a motion that we grant all licenses on the arrow. Second. Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed nay. Chair votes aye. Mid passes. Okay, now we can have our little Our next meeting date will be on the 13th. I will not be in attendance. Oh, okay. I will be at a, I'll be in the stage but not on an island. Oh yeah, we need to do that. Can we do next meeting date adjourn and then go out to look at the fire truck? Yeah, you should adjourn. And then when you go out to look for the fire truck, you can look at the fire truck but you can't talk about city business. Okay. But you can talk about the fire truck. Sounds fair to me. It's already purchased, so yeah. Mark your calendar. Next meeting date will be July 13th and Kathy will let us know if we're in room one or six or upstairs. Yeah, it'll be upstairs. They're gonna do presentations for the licenses. Okay. Okay. I feel like thrilled. Yeah, we're still. I actually enjoy this. I won't be here. Okay. I need a motion to adjourn. I'll make a motion to adjourn. Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, nay. Here votes aye and we are adjourned.