 All right, I'm gonna call the License Hearing and Public Safety Committee for January 25th, 2023 to order. Roll call Alderman Dekker. Here. Alderman Heidemann. Here. Alderman Salazar. Here. And Alderperson, that play is excused. Roll call Alderperson Felde. I am here. I'm actually excused. Dekker. Dekker, Dekker. Heidemann. Salazar. Here. All right. Pledge of Allegiance, please stand. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. I think everybody knows everybody, so we're gonna go right to the approval of minutes from January 11th. I make a motion to approve. Second. Is there any discussion? Any corrections? All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed, nay. Chair votes aye. Minutes are approved. Number six, our own number 93-22-23-1-16-23 by a chief fire chief pursuant to section 5564 of the municipal code submitting the quarterly report of benchmark measurements for the fire department for the period commencing October 1, 2022 and ending December 31, 2022. Well, thank you, Chair. So, everybody should have gotten the report. Just like many, many fire departments across this country, 521 calls over last year. So, something that's unique to the fourth quarter that we are overlapping incidents, which is when one incident's going, you might have one or two or three or four more calls at the same time. So overlapping, we're at 62% in the fourth quarter which is quite high. So over half of our calls were multiple calls. We continue to do our inspection program and refine it. So we accomplished and completed 100 more inspections in this year's fourth quarter than last year or in 21 and 22, sorry. And then even though our call volume was higher overall, our fourth quarter was just a little bit slower or lower than the previous year, which is kind of unique. So we continue to do our station tours. We're doing all our PubEd events. We doubled them obviously because COVID restrictions were lifted and we're continuing to put more emphasis in our training hours. So you'll see that we increased our training hours a little close to 1300 compared to the previous. Any questions that I can answer? Perfect. Well, the question, sorry, one question. For the overlapping call percentage, that's just like, that's not because you don't have enough people answering phones, that's just because more calls were coming in, right? Correct, it's just part of the fact of life. Even if we had staffing, it would still count as an overlapping. Okay. Any other questions? Chairman, yeah, I had that circled myself, okay? Because you gave me good explanation of it. What percentage of an overlap, is there, when you're giving mutual aid, is that also in there? Yeah, any incident, regardless of location, regardless. Do you have a percentile of what that would be of an overlapping call where you call out to help somebody to another department? Yeah, I mean, I don't have the percentage of, if we were on a mutual aid, if that was one of the overlapping, I don't have that, I could get it, I just opened the report to do it. Our mutual aid calls on there, so you'll see in the fourth quarter, we received help 12 different times from an outside agency, and we responded 45 times, out, am I on the right? Yeah, 45 times, sorry, go help. So part of it is helping Orange Cross, some of it is helping, structure fires or sending for accidents, those kind of things, so it's a mix. But, 12 of those. Is there a specific department that we receive more mutual aid calls, from the town or from the town of Wilson? Yeah, no, there's not one that over, so we have that quad, remember that, so that if we have a fire, they will help us, we will help them. So, I think most of the majority, just guessing without looking at this, the majority is Orange Cross assist. Oh, that's okay. Yeah, and again, they're helping us a lot too, it's just hit or miss, there's, you know, someone is having a heart attack and it's hard for us, how do you say no? Right. If we can help, we can help, you know what I mean, because when we need help, they come, so. Yeah, don't say no. Yeah. And so, well, with the overlap too, you're talking about the other two, you could have a call at the North Side Station and at a call at the South Side Station, you could do two different incidents, that's still considered a call. Yeah, it could be multiple calls, we could have two calls at the same time, one up on the fourth floor here and one in the basement, and we have two different units coming, that's an overlap, if they had it in the same time. We still have a personnel one. Oh, yeah, the overlapping incidents truly don't have anything to do with personnel. Now I will be honest with them, tell you, yes, some day we're gonna have to have that discussion, because I am understaffed, but that's down the road. Overlapping incidents would still happen, whether I had 100 people on duty or 20, it's still gonna happen. It's just two incidents happen at the same time, that's gonna happen, the odds are, are there, yeah. Yeah, with our increase in call volume, you're gonna see that more. Yeah. That makes sense, because the world is busy, you know. There, yep, the more population, more incidents, a lot of people are now out of the COVID thing, so they were doing a lot more of stuff. And truly there's, it's just things are changing. So yeah. You said understaffed, is there a reason for that you're understaffed? Is it because you don't have the full volume you should have of staff? Yeah, we will certainly talk about that at a different, in the future. It is quite, just sum it up, yes. We just don't have the personnel like we should. According to standards. Some are coming in and they want vacations. And vacations are huge and some are right. I know that. Any other questions? All right. We don't need to approve this one, do we? We can just accept it. Okay. Motion, somebody wanna make a motion? Make a motion to accept the file? Second. Any more discussion? Okay, all in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed nay. Chair votes aye. Motion carries. Okay. Number seven, RO number 94, 22, 23, 116, 23. By police chief Christopher Domigalski pursuant to section 5465 of the municipal code submitting the quarterly report of benchmark measurements for the police department for the period commencing October 1, 2022 and ending December 31, 2022. Take it away chief. Okay, good afternoon. Just like Eric said, you have the report in front of you. I'll just go over the highlights quickly for you. Part one crime was flat year-to-date in comparison to 2021 and a slight decrease in comparison to 2020. There was 852 part one crimes in 2022, 841 in 2021 and 973 in 2020. Traffic accidents year-to-date were 418, first, sorry, 1,418, first 1,365 in 2021 and 1,340 in 2020. So just a very slight increase, but under our goal of 1,500 along with that traffic stops were if you look at the sheet increased by about 20%, traffic arrests increased by about 800. So they're doing the deployments and making the stops. So trying to imply due enforcement were necessary to continue to bring those accidents down. And then lastly, involuntarily, involuntary commitments were relatively flat year-to-date in comparison to the same period in 2021, but there was an increase in comparison to 2020. So 138 this year, first 144 last year and 101 in 2020 that I can answer any questions if you have any. Question on the traffic stops. Is there, it seemed to be an increase in the reckless driving similar to like what they're having down in Milwaukee and things like that. Kind of what you're running into is that why we're having more of these. So I wouldn't say reckless driving like in Milwaukee. I would say the same thing that I said probably the last 20 meetings or so. There's a lot more aggressive driving, people in a hurry and distracted driving. So people on their phones trying to multitask and do multiple things and just aren't as courteous as they used to be in the past. So I think that's primarily where the focus needs to be on both enforcement and messaging that we just really it's dangerous when people are driving in that fashion and people need to slow down and it starts with personal responsibility, not just complaining about how somebody else is driving and not paying attention how you're driving because you're doing the same things. But I think really every time each individual gets in a car they need to pay attention to how they are operating that vehicle. And some of that, I think that we hear from citizens is some of the courtesy things that we've talked about at past meetings. So somebody at a crosswalk that's waiting across both of them doing what they need to do. And by that I mean signaling to oncoming drivers that they want to cross and not standing there looking the other way so the driver doesn't know if they should stop or not. But then drivers paying attention and if somebody does want to cross stopping and allowing them to cross rather than ignoring them or trying to speed up so that they can't stop. It's just really a combination of all those things I think. I've been known to drive more than one car at a time. And I do it quite well, you can ask my wife. How you do that? Here's the thing, is there a specific area that within the community of Shaboy that has a higher rate of traffic stops than like is the north side worse than the south side? Don't do that. Why not? You're trying to- I'll get out of there. We'll stay out of there. I'll bet not. I hear that question later. One, I live on the corner of the line. Well, I would say there's- North Avenue and then Taylor Road. That's fair, but separating the town in half by like so-so drivers. I just was trying to give my point of reference. So I think there are particular areas that we have more accidents than others. And then we have areas where there's more traffic. So 14th and area is probably the busiest intersection. But far, yeah. So I've said in past, what we do is we have a crime analyst and he maps all of our activity. So all the accidents get mapped and all of the crime gets mapped. And where those things overlap, we create hot spots and those are areas that we concentrate on doing enforcement in because they'll drive down both the accidents and drive down crime in those areas. We'll also look at what we talked about intersections where there's a higher number of accidents and then try to put together a plan. Part of it would be enforcement, but it could be working with DPW to change stop signs or do things like that to try to correct those behaviors there. Thank you. Can I ask a follow up to that question? Sure. Do you partner with, does public works get this information where you've done your homework, you have somebody internally who does it? Does public works get to see it in the city? You know, who handles the street and lighting and stop signs to make adjustments to you guys collaborate? So that's, yeah. When you put together a plan, it's talking to Ryan and all of that and say, here's what we think, what do you think, what's best practice by you that you know about and here's, and so that's all of that goes together. Great. I just wanted to make sure there was still communication into making change if we can, right? And all of our mapping is done now on their platform as a GIS platform. So they have access to all of that if they really want it. But it's the same thing with planning upstairs in all of our beat neighborhoods in that we're going out with them collecting data and it's all getting put on those maps so we know what areas to concentrate on. Okay. Cool. Thank you. Thank you for the record. He didn't say anything about Illinois drivers. So. Yeah. I wasn't asked about it. I actually think that government in Northern South drivers, I met Illinois and Wisconsin. That's what he was trying to say. That's Dave. Every time you see somebody with a Illinois license plate and they're passing them, he goes, Illinois. Could be my wife, just passing them. Could be your wife. Are there any other questions for the chief? Okay. And we need a motion to approve the report. To approve or to file? I'll make a motion to accept and file. I'll make a motion to accept and file. Second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed nay. Motion to approve or yes to approve or aye. Our next meeting will be February 15th. It's three weeks from now. There's potential that we'll be having a hearing. I think it's more likely further on. But just so you're aware, coming up in the next month or a month and a half or so, we'll probably have a fairly likely. So I won't be at that one then. For 15th? No, the 15th I'll be at. It's later in the month of February. We got a state. So we'll just need to make sure that Betty comes home. Actually, I think there's actually a lot of money because of the first. I'm actually out of the state from the 16th through March 6th. Oh, that's a long haul. Yeah, we're gonna place the closest during the whole season. So I'm gonna take your vacation. Okay, move on. Number nine, motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn. Second. Okay, so we'll say all in favor. All in favor vote aye. Aye. And we are adjourned.