 That's right. I just set my alarm for three minutes before we start. I have pros and cons. Here we go. Here we are, live on The Metal Voice. Oh yeah, we got to, we're gonna talk about. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Gotta fix that. Okay, now we're good. Now we are good live with The Metal Voice today. Talking about KK's Priest. Gonna review the album that was out October 1st on VX Plora One Music Group, EXI Records. Also, David Lee Roth, what's going on? Dave, Dave, Dave's retiring. David Lee Roth is retiring. Was it planned? Was it a prophecy? Or maybe it was just unfortunate, right? We're just talking about that a little bit. We don't know the truth. We're just gonna sort of talk about what's going on with Dave. But first, let's talk about KK's Priest. This is a band that features Tim Ripper Owens on vocals, former Judas Priest. Guitarist A.J. Mills from Hostel. Tony Newton from Voodoo Six. Sean Elg from Death Riders and Cage. Sermons of the Center. Did I leave anybody out? Oh yeah, KK. I left KK out, so KK out. Who's he? Who's KK? All right. It was really- Kenny Kessel. Ah, true, Kenny Kessel. Well, good job, Kenny Kessel. Round table, let's take a look at this. Let's dissect this. First things first, let's just go around the table. Tom, Milwaukee, Tom is joining us. Fill in in for Stefan. Where's he from? Milwaukee. Cool, so it's not just- Really, Wauke, as Alas, Cooper. Oh, that's a model. Milwaukee box, the MDH not by Milwaukee box. That's right. So it's not just a clever name. No, no, no, no, no. All right, first things first. Round the table, one sentence, first impression. What'd you think, Tom? Pleasantly surprised after listening to the first few that were released. To me, it's a great guitar album. A lot of great lead guitar, just- One sentence, just quick impression, quick impression. Perrin, what'd you think? Quick, you put it on for the first time, what was it? Full frontal metal attack for 50 minutes. Okay, all right. Jals? Really good. Yeah. Were any of you, Tom, were you pleasantly surprised or pleasantly disappointed? Pleasantly surprised. I, because of the lead guitars for me, again, I think that the songs written aren't that great. I think they do a great job musically. I think some of the songs at the guitar part save a song, but the sound is good, the singing is good. I think everything's good about it. I just, some of the cliche lyrics are a little- All right, we'll get to the lyrics in a bit. We'll get to the Perrin. Pleasantly surprised or pleasantly disappointed? Because we had four tracks to listen to already, right? I think Tom and I are gonna be pretty well aligned here because I have to say, I was gonna say pleasantly surprised until he did, so I had to go with the full frontal metal attack because same thing, I was kind of a little underwhelmed by the snippets and the first tracks I heard. But then when you listen from the album from start to finish, it really is like this full frontal metal assault for 50 minutes and it's not music I would listen to right before going to bed, but if I'm driving in my car at a good speed or if I'm in the gym, it's a pretty good record to listen to for that. It's really pump you up. You know, if you like heavy metal and all the cliches that go with it, you're gonna like this record. All right, Jiles, were you surprised? And you heard four tracks, then you heard the rest of the album. I knew it was gonna be good. I liked Hellfire Thunderbolt and Summons at the Center. Brothers of the Road, I think is really, really cool. That's a great song because it's about being on the road and rocking and- Being brothers. I like that sort of thing and being brothers maybe to you. But yeah, good album. I find it a little weird how a lot's being made of some of the lyrics, but isn't that what heavy metal is? It has been since, you know, the 80s. Sometimes. We'll get to that. We'll get to that. Okay. I want to get all into it. I hated it when metal started getting all intellectual with all this thrash bands going on about the environment. I think heavy metal should be about rocking and playing metal and rocking a little bit more and playing metal. I know what to sell. Do not play Testaments' Greenhouse Effect for models. I hate all that crap. Tom, I'm going to read you some lyrics. Okay, let's just get on it. That's like listening to that. What's that girl, that really annoying Swedish girl, Greta Turdberg? Yeah, Greta, whatever. I don't want that. I want to listen to those songs about rocking. And brothers. And brothers and- And the road. The road, yeah. All right, so Tom. This has been all across the internet. Cheesy lyrics, cheesy lyrics, cheesy lyrics. But, you know, jawbreakers. Well, yeah. United, united, united. We stand, united. We shall never fall. United, united. We stand, united. We shall stand one and all. I think people have this thing where if something's from the 70s or 80s, it's so ingrained and associated with a certain era that it gets this major pass. But if someone does something like that these days, it's instantly held up next to, I don't know, some crap from Coldplay or something, as, you know, wow, how can you write about that in 2000? Why not? That's what made Metal great. You listen to Y and T. A lot of songs about rock in there. Scorpions, rock you like a hurricane. Yeah. AC DC, everything's about rock. But Tom, but I know Tom was talking about the lyrics right at the beginning. And what was your point on that? But really personally, lyrics to me aren't that important. As far as judging an album or liking an album, lyrics can be great. You know, like some Aranis lyrics or Maiden's lyrics, those are really cool. But then they can be what I don't like, like David Coverdale's lyrics. And I wanna throw up when I listen to that. But I like his music. I'm just saying that there's, it seems like it was an effort to confirm that I'm K.K. Downing, I'm still Metal. We all know that. But he just seems, I just, there's a lot of songs that have this, I'm shoving this metal down your face. Yeah. I don't know why I don't understand that. Yeah. But before you go, I'm gonna say Firepower, Taking Lives, Firepower, Neutral Lives. Is this any different? But Jimmy, here's the thing, right? So when you leave a band, it's an opportunity to do your own thing. You know, you can like- His own thing was, Fire, his own thing was Judas Priest. So Jimmy, so- Exactly. So, you know, look, you could like Adrian Smith's work Outside of Maiden or you could not like it, but it's kind of different and it shows his influences. If you read K.K.'s book early on in the book, he really goes on and on about like sneaking out of his home at a young age and going to see Jimi Hendrix and all of his influences. And this record shows none of what he says he was influenced by. So I kind of wonder if this is the record K.K. wanted to make or this is the record he felt he needed to make to bring an element of priest fans over with them. Because let me tell you, if Painkiller is your favorite priest record and it is not my favorite priest record, but if Painkiller is your favorite record and you like the Ripper Owens records, Juggalator and Demolition, you will love this. You will absolutely love this if that is your favorite era of Judas Priest. But if you're kind of like me and you really dig better by you, better than me and desert plains and screaming for vengeance, this might, you'll like this, but you won't love this. So there's a cheesy o-meter and to Giles's point, there's a lot of cliches in metal and it's there, but there are metal through and through and wild and free. A couple of those just go a little too far. Now, some of it is cool and paying tribute. It's like Return of the Sentinel. There's this little guitar lick in that song that is kind of a Sentinel guitar lick and that's paying homage to where he came from. And I think that's pretty cool. So kind of like Tom, I'm not offended by the lyrics. I'm not gonna not like the album because the lyrics are a little simplistic. And Jimmy, not every Judas Priest song is like that. Like every song on this album is a little kind of formulaic and same-same, but it's a pretty good formula. So honestly, pleasantly surprised, lyrics don't bug me. Music is really good. The best part is the guitar. KK is really playing great. If you, and God bless Tim Owens. He's not everyone's cup of tea, but what he does, he does it really, really well. All right, okay. Well, Charles, you wanna add to that? Yeah, I should. Okay. If you want, you don't have to. Yeah, no, I do. No, I love Tim. I thought Tim was awesome. I'm a big fan of his years of priest. I think, I mean, when Juggernaut came out, I thought most people dug it. It seemed to get a really good response. But then somewhere around demolition, the Let's All Knock Ripper kind of thing came in. I think they're both great albums. This new, I mean, is this a follow-up to demolition? I don't really see it as that. This is more of a, if I had any complaint, I think that perhaps at times, it seems a little underdeveloped, like it was a wee bit rushed. I think, you know, let this sort of percolate another sort of 30% refined a little bit more. It could have been a real absolute classic. But it's a very, very, very, very good record. And it's good to see KK still doing music. And it's good to see Tim, hopefully finding a band and a spot where he can now reconnect with fans or have a vehicle that's kind of good for him to go forward with. Because, you know, he was kind of, I mean, he still will. I mean, everyone's got to work. I get it. But, you know, he was becoming kind of the session guy. But hopefully this is something that can go on and go forward and they can get on some big tours and do some bandwrecks. That's a fantastic point. I'm just going to read some comments here before we get to our comments. Tony's saying, needs more cowbell. Okay. Tony's saying, I'm more like Perrin, yes. I like it, not love it. Gabe is saying, I love all of Perrin's mentions. Oh, a lot of Perrin. Marty's saying, I agree with the lyrics in Jimmy. The lyrics are no worse than the 80s. Johnny's saying, traditional heavy metal and always drinking from Judas Priest's vein. Many haters would say that KK's priest is a copy and paste of Judas Priest. But let's admit it, KK was a fundamental part of the history. Mike M. Heavy metal has always been cheesy. That's the appeal. And Bass is saying, 10 out of 10, album the year for me. KK sounds like he's 20 years old again. Hey, look at that. Patricia was saying, nine out of 10, album of the year. Mad Max, do you guys think this is Judas Priest in their place? Do you guys think this put Judas Priest in their place? I meant Mike, seven out of 10. So I mean, there's some cool comments here. I guess what it comes down to is, and I heard, I read some of these comments online. This KK's priest is a tribute band. I mean, is Judas Priest not a tribute band? If KK's priest- I gotta clarify this. I hear this word tribute band kicked around so much. Here's the definition of a tribute band. A tribute band is a collection of musicians that have absolutely no even remote association with the band they're paying tribute to. Which means they wouldn't have the original guitar player of the band in their ranks, which was KK. So I hear this used so many times. Tribute band, tribute band, cover band. Tribute bands are people that have absolutely no affiliation or association with the band they're paying tribute to. No, none. So let's just move that right off the table right away. I agree with Giles. We've even had to show them with this before. One member, two member, what makes it a band. You do what you can do. I love Leonard Skinnerd and I still love Leonard Skinnerd and Gary Rossington, God bless him, is still out there as much as he can. And Johnny is the brother of Ronnie and Ronnie's not coming back. And other guys have been in that band. Ricky Medlock has been in that band forever. Even Michael Cardoloni and other guys have been in that band for 25 years now. And it's the official estate. This is not a bunch of guys who just woke up one day and decided, let's put Leonard Skinnerd. Yeah, so I take offense to that too because, hey, if you love a band and you want the music to go on, Giles made this point I think in private this week that sadly, a lot of our heroes and legends are getting up there. And if we want the music to live on, this is the way it's gonna have to be. And we all wish KK was back in priest, but we don't know what went on and we don't know what people's personal and business affiliations are. And if for now, this is what it needs to be, again, I'm pleasantly surprised by this record and I'm glad it's out there. And I know we'll talk about it soon, Jimmy, but I really liked the last Judas Priest record. So best of both worlds maybe for everybody. We're gonna get to that as a last point. All right, quickly, down the tracks. Let's just run down these tracks, okay? Hellfire Thunderbolt, I think we could all agree. It's a good song. It's a great song, right? Yep. I thought it was an okay song at first. Coming off of that great intro, I love the intro on the album. I love that. And then coming into this song, I might've made the next song, Sermons of the Center, the opening track, but Hellfire Thunderbolt is great. I might've flipped the two songs, but I think it's, I like it better now. Sermons of the Center, okay, we all know that track too. It was, we had enough time to absorb that. Would everybody say that's a cool track? I don't like it. You don't like it? What don't you like about it? It's my least favorite on the album. Only be, I like Tim. Tim's great singer, I really like him, but I don't like the whole song, song like that. No. I like the chorus. I like the, I like the, I like just the aggressivity of the chorus, Sermons of the Center. I really like, I love, for me that's a Tim. I don't like that, to me, like two kick ass songs right off the bat. They are. Am I missing something here? I don't know what's going on. No, they're, the music is, I just don't, it doesn't. Is that any? I mean, it could have been right on firepower with that song. If you asked me, I could have been right here on this album. Right? No, it wasn't like Mark Screechy on that song and that. All right, all right. Fair enough, fair enough. Okay, Sardoche e Diablo. My number one, that's my number one. Really? That's up there. I love that track. All right, all right. What's it called? Sosa Doty. Sosa Doty, Diablo. Priest and Devil. Priest and Devil. Priest and Devil. Yeah. Well, you know, that's one of the newer tracks What'd you think, Giles? What? What'd you think, Giles? It's a good song. I like that. All right, good. Now raise your fists. That's cool. All right, raise your fists. What about raise your fists, guys? Raise your fists. Raise our fists in the air. Good anthemic metal track. All right, I agree. Goes well with Brothers of the Road. It was my middle, that was middle of the pack. That and Brothers of the Road were actually kind of middle of the pack for me. Honestly, I like the whole album except for two songs. So when I say middle of the pack, it's because I think a bunch are great. A bunch are good. And there's only two that I'm kind of eh about. Okay. All right. I think Brothers of the Road. I mean, I'm actually singing this song and, you know, what about my day? I think it's so catchy. You know, I feel like jumping in a car with my brothers in metal and taking a drive or something. I don't know. Gotta get an ice cream. Go get it. Yeah. All right, so here's another new song that sort of caught everybody a little off guard. Metal through and through. I mean, it starts off a very, you know, holy diver, black Sabbath, you know, sort of bass riff, right? Yeah. I'm changing there. A little bit of Beyond the Realms of Death in there, you know, some, a lot of. Let's not be, you know, take it easy there. Tom, there's a drum right here. It starts off slow, then it goes fast and it starts off slow. I like the acoustic guitar piece about three quarters of the way through. Good chorus. Just put the best chorus on the whole record, I think. That's my favorite track on the album. See, that's my least favorite track. See, for me, that's what just after, like, a lot of really good stuff, that's where I'm like, okay, I can't hear. The cliche meter just went off the chart. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think it's cliche at all. I don't think you hear anything. Really? You don't think metal through and through? I'm like, is Manowar opening for them? Or are they all gonna like? What's wrong with Manowar? Exactly. I don't understand what's wrong with Manowar. Manowar, dude. Have you heard this album, Perrin? I mean, it's all cliches. It's all cliches. It's all cliches. Fire power. Just like the... We'll talk about that in a second. Planar's Gate, Sector, Now. I mean, there are some cliches on firepower, but no cliches. Like the whole thing. Guys, look, I'm just saying, what metal through and through is what? The sixth or seventh track on the album? By the time I got there, I was getting a bit of fatigue about being wild and free and metal through and through. And play it first. I love it. I love my bros, bros before hoes. You know what I mean? Like, I love my brothers, but like, okay, I know I'm metal through and through. I have 10,000 frickin' records in the next room. But I kind of liked that the drumming, it was odd. It was a very odd sort of tempo and time change there. And that's what made it cool. And it kept changing. And then at the end, it slows down completely and then it builds up. So, I mean, it's not something priest does anymore. Is that a curtain behind you or is that a backfake? This is a curtain. It's a curtain. You like it? I sleep in it at night. It's my blank. He doesn't want to see you. He'll you to see his dirty laundry. I got an exercise machine right in back of here. Would you like to take a peek? Right there? Okay. Oh, behind you. Magic. Magic. This is like the sofa I passed out on. It is actually. Giles slept on that couch right there. I was so exhausted after like a week and a half sleep. Lifestyles of the not so rich and famous. All right, so next track. Let's just go through this. Hail for the priest. Hey, there's no way you're there. Wild and free. Oh, yeah. Wild and free. That's the track I don't care for so much. Yeah, that was my second least favorite. Yeah, that's the same here. That's the second least favorite for me. Well, there's a chant at the end. Oi. Oi. Oi, right? It's a crap. I think that Wild and free have had that been replaced with like a kind of like a night crawler type track or something that would have pushed this record right up to like almost a full marks, I think. Wild and free is kind of a B track for me. Mm-hmm. I am. Yeah. Okay, let's go back to the comments. Agree with, okay, Hiroshi is saying, yes, I agree, like it, but not love it, but we most recognize it's nice to see in this day's legend people that still rock. Unfortunately, we can't say the same from Judas Priest. We'll get to that. I don't know about that. Bass agree with Hiroshi, especially Lai feels like old people music. KK still has 100% energy. I mean, I think that's a cool point there. Like when I put this album on, KK's Priest, I felt like there was this massive amount of energy that firepower to me, which I do like this album, don't get me wrong, lacks. It lacks. I can't fault firepower. I thought it was an excellent record. I thought the one before. I think firepower was a masterpiece. Again, let me know if you're ready to talk about the comparison of the two. Right. Okay, well, okay. So Tony's saying Priest friggin' helped invent some of these cliches. So yes, they do get a pass, Gabe, metal through and through was a great mellow part, which reminds me of early Priest and the chorus has a Lizzie vibe. It's a little too long also, seven and a half minutes for this kind of, on a 50 minute record, one track of seven and a half minutes was a bit much for me. This is two that are really long, isn't it? I think that, but this is the longest one. All right, so while they're in the free, I think there's a consensus here that this one maybe did not really fit on the album. Maybe it could have been replaced with something else, correct? Yes, yeah. All right, let's go back. Now let's go to the hell. Other than free, it's BSB, so I don't know. I liked it. I thought it was okay. I don't think it was the worst. I mean, apart from the ridiculous title, I don't even think of that grammatically. No, I think, I'm not actually sure that Hail IV, the Priest, is even grammatically correct. I think you can only Hail II, you can Hail from, but I'm not sure if you can Hail IV something. Nevertheless, it's an excellent, excellent song. Do we have an English expert online to see if this is grammatically correct or not please somebody Google this? Grammarly, please, Grammarly. Hail IV, the Priest? I'm not sure. Hail IV, the Priest. Hail II, the Priest. Now again, it starts off so slow, a little bit of sad wings of destiny in there. Like greater, you know, I like the song. I think it was my second or third favorite on the record. If KK had wanted to go for the real credibility thing, he could, you know, do a record that Priest haven't done in about 45 years. Do like come out with like a stained glass or a kill, you know, that type of record, you know, slightly proggy, you know, all the lyrics are sort of sci-fi or that kind of stuff. That would have been kind of the cred card. But I think he played it pretty smart here by kind of hanging around that, living after midnight, screaming for vengeance, you know, another thing coming kind of area with things like Brothers of the Road, then with a whole lot of painkillers mixed in. All right, all right. Return of the Sentinel. I think he could play this. But yeah, return of the Sentinel. Is this not something iced earth, glorious burden? That's what I think when I- It's fantastic. It's a fantastic way to end the record. It is a good way to end the record. I think Hail for the Priest and return of the Sentinel are both very good ways to end the record. Yeah, I agree. And I have to say, like I said, if you listen, there's a guitar lick in there that harkens back to the Sentinel. You hear it, you know, just a couple of bars. And what I liked. For me, that was like paying tributes to his past without copying the whole song. So I really enjoyed that. All right, all right. So how does this compare to firepower? I mean, okay. I mean, he's getting his feet wet. We've got to give him a pass on that. He's getting his feet wet. He's got this new band. They're just getting in the groove, right? He's been in the pool. He's been in the pool, dude. But Jimmy, it's- All right, he went in the pool and got out. He's going back in it. It's a very different record than firepower. So, you know, like I said, this really is a full frontal metal assault with a different kind of singer fronting it for 50 minutes. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. This thing bludgeon zoo, 50 minutes all the way through. That's why I said it's a great driving record. It's a great workout record. What about Tim Ripper Owens? All right, Giles is a singer. What do you think of his vocal delivery on this album? I love Tim. I think Tim sounds as good as ever. He hasn't lost anything. He's a fantastic vocalist always, but I don't always think he sings. I don't always think that every record he's done has been the best material, to be honest. But this is a great record. When he's got great material to sing, he's awesome, I think. Hey, Giles, I want to ask you a question. When we, am I misusing this term multi-tracking when you hear the singer, in essence, two different times, two voices? Is that multi-tracking? Yeah, I mean, it's definitely a multi-track triple track. Yeah, but I don't like that. But a lot of the time... I think he's got such a great voice. I just want to hear his voice. He's doing a harmony. Yeah, I know. So you either like harmony or you don't like harmony. It's kind of that's either a personal preference. I would rather, for choruses, I'm all good with that. I like that. But when he's singing verses, I just prefer, I just prefer to hear a single voice. He's got that in quick cathedral spires as well. There was a harmony line under. Yeah, great. I got to say Tim really knocks out a part in this song. He sounds like Tim. He sounds like Tim. He doesn't sound like he's trying to sound like Rob. And knowing Tim, he did this whole thing in a week, too. You know? I don't know, there's a great vocal delivery. That's what I mean. I mean, he can fly in for five days and do a record of this caliber of something. He does a great job. Does a great job on it. And I'm sure live, he's probably, you know, there's no recorded tracks to help him out. Tim's just the real deal, man. He's the real deal. Yeah, I think it's the best thing he's done since the glorious burden. I think this is the best thing he's done. Yeah, that's great. Honestly, no, I really like that. I like it so much. I've forgotten the fucking name. A new revenge. I thought that was a really cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I haven't listened to that a ton, but you know. But if you think of the major stuff he's done, you know, because some of the Malmsteen and that kind of stuff like this blows that away, in my opinion. Yeah, yeah. Well, the Malmsteen stuff, he was obviously just singing whatever Ingway wrote. Right. A pop of Red Devil, I actually thought the composition was pretty weak on that record. All right, Johnny's saying thank you Giles for pointing out the four to issue on Hale. So you're very good at grammar, Giles. That's it. Firepower is still great. And this album is up there with their best, up but not past it. So I'm not sure what that means. Kenny's saying hi. Kenny was up. Marcy's saying hi as well. I'm really happy that we've had two great priest records with Redeemer of Souls and Firepower. Now we've got this great record as well. This is a band that kind of lost me around that. Ingway. So that's the question here. Firepower or KK's priest. Let's go Tom. I prefer Firepower. All right. I think it's just enjoyed more, that's all. Yeah, I like more nuanced and varied metal and I think Firepower is that. For me, Firepower is a nine on 10 and this is a seven and a half on 10. So both very good, but I prefer Firepower. Yeah, I'm the same. I'm the same as that. I think I'm a little bit different. I don't know, I put both albums on today and I thought I found more. Firepower's got a lot of bloat though. There's a lot of padding in it. I think they could have. There's too many songs. There's a lot of songs. Yeah, they could have been bored halfway through. I liked what they did with the previous album where they had a bonus disc, which kind of took some of the songs on. Yeah, I would definitely put this out of eight out of 10. I think it's just rather a gate. You know, he's doing I like to see Tim participate more next on the next album, you know, creatively because KK was sort of focused on the production. What about the production of his album? I like it. Really good. It's a great sounding record. I said that to Jimmy privately yesterday. I'm like, is it me or is this sound? There's a lot of conversations that were talked about privately that you're still in there. No, but I mean, because I said to Jimmy, like, is it me? Part of this. Because there's actually so much stuff out there where we feel the production is lacking from major bands that I'm listening to this yesterday. I'm like, man, is it just me or is the production on this and the mix too? You know, there's a lot going on. You've got Tim's vocals. You've got the Chukka Chukka guitars. You have some pretty heavy drums. So to kind of get all of that and have, you know, the right instrument featured at the right time and the mix is really good. It's really strong production, I have to say. A lot of bands with more budget can kind of learn from this to make a record that sounds this good. Yeah. So when I, when we all heard the first releases online, it didn't sound very sonic to me, but when I bought the physical CD, I put that in my car. You can see rain back in. It really sounds good. I think, well, I think the drums are a little bit tuned down, but that's just me because... What about Les Binks? Did we want more Les Binks or less? Yes. Yes. I want Les Binks. I want Les Binks. I always want Les Binks because he's great. Yeah. Tom and I were discussing this privately. Jesus, everything's been revealed today. And see, as much as I love Les Binks, he's my actually favorite priest drummer of all their drummers. But I don't think this material is the best suited material to him. I know he can play it, but I kind of think of more swing and groove when I think of how Les plays. And while this is kind of Scott Travesy kind of metal, you know, and they're different drummers, right? They're very different drummers. And I think either are technically able to play what the other can play, but I just think Les's default style is almost like a jazzer, more swingy style. And this is like rapid-fire, piston kind of stuff. You know what? And I think that I would think that was part of the reason why they kind of like didn't go with him because they were looking for more of a, I don't know. Scott Traves kind of drummer. Mechanical drummer. Scott Traves kind of drummer. You don't have to be honest with you. You know, I think this is Scott Traves like. Yeah. Scott Traves like drummer. And Sean Elg, he does a phenomenal job if you love that type of drumming, right? I mean, no doubt the guy's a great drummer, right? He's good. Yeah. Yeah. But I want to say one more thing about Les. Yes, yes, sir. I actually did see Les play live with Priest. And he can play fast. All right. As a drummer, you know, going into every job that there's gonna be a lot of songs you don't like because no one listens to the drummer anyway. And you're just gonna have that. Well, I mean, Les was on the metal voice and we did talk to him about, you know, what happened. And it was kind of like, I guess it just didn't, COVID happened and I guess KK had a vision and just didn't go right. But I think there was a good intention there to work with him at the start. But you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I just don't think this is Les' first choice of metal. I think Les plays a different kind, prefers. He can play this, but I think he prefers a different kind of metal. Yes, yes, yes. Les is a very unique individual too. Yes, I'm putting my hands now like right under here. What are you gonna talk about, Survivor? Survivor, we'll talk about Survivor after, but now we're gonna talk about, okay, wait. Round the table, actually not around the table. I wanna know everybody out there rated out of 10. What did you think of KK's Priest? Give us a number out of 10. You know what's fine, weird. I always say this. People rate albums out of five. It makes no sense. I'm like, gotta pull out the calculator. What the hell do they talking about here? You know why? This is my theory. This is my theory. Do you know why? Why? Charles, you know why? Tell us, tell us, tell us, tell me, we're waiting. Because it doesn't sound bad. When you say 2.5 out of 10, 2.5 out of five, it doesn't sound terrible, but it's really six. We should rate it out of 100. It'd be better. Why rate it out of 90? See, if you do a three out of five, people go, oh, sounds good, but no, it's only a six out of 10. Well, I think three out of five is decent. I mean, I think three out of five is most, is actually most albums. I think four... 60% though. No, but I'm talking about why people use five. Well, 60% is most albums. If you look at most albums, they're usually 60% pretty good. It's only the fours out of fives, fives out of fives reserved for those like Desert Island discs, I think. People overrate too much these days. They give average albums. But my point is, my point is, and I get that, my point is the rating system that some websites use is five out of five. That's too old. Because they're trying to create the illusion that a three out of five sounds like an eight out of 10. You know what I mean? But really it's a six out of 10. I'm losing interest. Can we get on with this? Yeah, no. I find this fascinating. So what do you want us to rate it out, Jimmy? What do you want us to get it? All right, so I'm going to read out the rating and then we're going to talk about David Lee Roth. Okay, Scott saying five out of 10. Luciano saying eight. MR611, Martin saying eight, eight. Kenny, seven point five. Bass, 10. Gabriel, eight point five. Mad Max, seven. Marcus saying seven. Marcy is saying 10 out of 20. Okay, that's a joke. Which would be a five out of 10. No, you see, it sounds like a lot, but it's not. See what's going with that? All right, David Lee Roth. David Lee Roth announced on October 1st, David Lee Roth announced on October 1st that he is retiring a little cryptic in his message though. He added, I'm not going to explain the statement. The explanation isn't a safe. There are, these are my last five shows. Roth also reflected on the passing of his longtime bandmate. I thought we might have been the first. I thought I might have been the first. And then he goes on to say, my doctors, my handlers compelled me to really address that every time I go on stage, I endanger that future. Meaning, you know, sort of like his demise or death, right? Then, then I got this message from Metal Rules, which is Joshua Wood, a friend of mine. He goes, he sends me a video of 1993, a little in and of, at the end of the video. 91. 90, sorry, 91? 91, okay. At the end of that video of a little late enough, it shows David Lee Roth is retiring and he comes out of this hoverboard kind of car, hover car, and on October, it says October 10th, 2021, David Lee Roth is retiring. Pointing is. I think he just chucked 30 years on. Now I know at least two people have watched that video all the way through the game. Now, yeah. Was this. The only two, like. He, you know what he would have done? It's no big conspiracy. In 1991, he probably just would have gone, hey, 30 more years, you know? Yeah. It's not a winch in it. Do you think he didn't know that was in the video? No, I think that he announced it at the same year and time period. First of all, October 10th is his birthday. Right. Did he prophesize, you know, back in 91 that he would retire? Was it planned in his mind? Way too much credit, Jimmy. Way too much credit. The answer is no. David Lee Roth is a hype machine, right? He's a hype machine. And that's exactly what's happening here. Yeah. Not enough people care for that to be even relevant. That thing in a video that most people have forgotten. I mean. Well, now we're going to remind them. Okay, Jimmy, here's what this is. Dave, at least finally, he's put up his hand and realized he can't do it any. He can't do it anymore. He's he's reached an age where he just can't do it. And the more he goes out and tries to do it, sadly, he's embarrassing himself a little bit. So it's time to bow out. And this isn't about as quickly as he can bow out. Most people seem to be missing one incredible piece of news that Alex Van Halen is going to be the drummer on these shows. Oh, really? Point. That's interesting. I missed that. I didn't miss that. So if that's the case, that makes them pretty special, if you ask me. I think that's pretty awesome. Him and Alex Van Halen. That would be amazing. Yeah, that's awesome. I think Dave is a little sad in the sense that I think he released that somewhere over the Rainbow Bar and Grill where Eddie died and just reading him a little bit in that interview with The Las Vegas Journal. He seems a little bit down. Like, I get it. You know, I mean, we all get to a point in our life, whether it's me or whether it's Diamond Dave, that you kind of stare your own mortality in the face and you know you have less years ahead of you than you do have behind you. And it gets to you. And that's where Dave sounds like he is right now. He's looking around and he's seeing friends not being well. And like, I hope he's well. You know, I don't think he was well. Well, I think he likes people reading into it. I mean, Dave, love him or hate him, likes being in the spotlight. So I think it's I think he likes people reading into it. You know, I think I think everything he does is very deliberate. And I think that his crypticness in that interview was deliberate. All right, I agree. It's all he's ever been about. He only likes to see David Lee Roth in concert. I don't know. I'd rather go see him than Sammy Hagar any day. Why? Today, I'd rather see Sammy. I mean, yeah. I don't want to be David. That's why. He just wants to be David. He can't. He just does no magic. There's no magic. He's nothing like Dave. Look, Sammy can still deliver. Like Sammy can still does. Sammy can still do what Sammy does. Dave can no longer do what he did. What did he do? Sammy's awesome. Awesome, right? Jumped around a lot. But anyway. Anyway, it is sad. And the point is that let's not be sad. It's stupid to be sad. I'm not even I mean, it's Eddie Van Halen, Ronnie Dio, all these people either passing away or retiring. Yeah, yeah, it's sad. Don't get me wrong, but I'm not sad because this is awesome. We had how many 50, 40, 50 years of some of the best music ever. So let's not be sad about that. Let's be happy that we got that they got to do what they did and we got to listen to it. You know, that's the that's the important thing, I think. And we can still I think too many people dissing David Lee Roth, you know, he's using. I think there's too many dissing. There's too many people dissing a lot of things because it is pissing down here all of a sudden. Wow. And I'm not dissing him. I love what he did in Van Halen. I love the early part of his solo career. I was never able to get through his book. I can't get through an interview with him. I haven't read it. Oh, my God, you couldn't get through his book. I couldn't put it down to him and Tommy Lee. Him and Tommy Lee are the two people I just can't read or listen to. It's like, oh, my God, I still I love listening to David Lee Roth talk. He says, mine is all over the place. And, you know, I just want to hit him with a stun gun, man. I got to hit him with a stun gun. You guys need to listen to me. He should do spoken word. Absolutely. I find it more than that. I find it more than that when he grows up is what you're saying. Have you guys seen the Joe Rogan interview with David Lee Roth? It's it's all like it's really good. It was incredible. It was it was like an hour and a half. I couldn't stop watching it because he's touching on everything. But anyways, all right, guys, I think that's it. So there you have it. Any last words? Everybody out there should David Lee Roth continue, if you can. Or should he just call it a day? You should continue. Whatever he wants to do, you know what I'd like. It would have been nice to have had one last kick ass record from him like he kept promising, you know? Yeah, he's dribbling a few tracks out on YouTube, but I'm not sure if that was the record that he did with John 5. The John 5 said sounded like early Van Halen. They would have been cool just to end the career with the. You know, kick ass slam and rock record, but probably ain't going to happen. Dave doesn't really record anymore. Well, as I was in Vegas and I've said this many times, I was in Vegas watching Dave two years ago. People were standing, clapping, cheering. And you know, he butchered all the songs, but he was funny. People were singing along. And let me tell you, people loved it. Love it. It's the soundtrack to their lives. I'm sure they did. They paid to come and see him. So you think they would be at least on his side? Yeah. Yeah. I know the Van Halen kind of went south when he was touring with Van Halen. There was a couple of shows. People were disappointed, but I don't know. I saw him at Madison Square Garden. It was really good. Yeah. Yeah. All right, guys. Happy Sunday. Thank you all for tuning in and. All right. Yeah. Pick up KK's priest. Enough. Enough. Enough. Pick up KK's priest. I don't put it back down again. He out for the priest. No, no. He out for the priest. Well, let me just see. What's, what's, so what? Grammatically. So Tony said his wife is a, she has a master's degree in, in English. And I like to know what, if this was grammatically correct or not. And then Jos could tell us a little bit about Survivor. I really like Survivor. You should check out too hot. I watch it every week. I don't know what you're talking about. Others do. All right, guys. All right. All right, y'all. See you. Have a good day. Happy Sunday. Bye-bye.