 I'm an everyday woman, woman, woman in every way Welcome to Every Way Woman Yeah, I'm living my life, life, life living day by day From Los Angeles, here's Every Way Woman Dig deeper into you Yellow Brick Runway? Yeah! That's my blog, it's a fashion collaboration blog and I partner with different fashion artists so designers, hair, makeup, stylists, jewelry and we create fashion concepts using me as a model which a lot of them are considered maybe inappropriate for a 45 year old model not from a skin perspective, but we did one called The Anguished Bride where it was very, all bridal gowns and it was very, like, anguished, you know What's this lady's story? She got left at the altar, she's dead she's haunting her husband, whatever She's being chased by the mafia but that's inappropriate because of 45 Well, no, because maturity is taboo in fashion Let's be honest and that's one of the reasons why you wrote into the show Right, it is, it is Okay, being 48 and fabulous why is that? I mean, why is 45, you can't do that? Well, I was told by my industry representatives we love the hair, we love the makeup we love the expression, but you can't use these pictures why not? Because you're wearing a wedding gown and the problem is, well, you're too old to wear a wedding gown and go, what am I supposed to get married in? You know, I don't know, you know, so but it's funny to me But actually, I do connect with that in a way because I'm married divorced and maybe marriage might be in the future but you know, I have a really hard time visualizing myself in a wedding gown So do you feel like you're not represented as mature women? Well, in the fashion industry if you look at it, you know everybody kind of looks like you and younger 14, right, and they're 16 and that's great, you know we live in the United States everyone can represent their brand the way they want to do it but there are women, you know, I'm 45 so, you know, after 35 I think in our culture we age out of glamour no longer are we advertised beautiful dresses and makeup and whatever You advertise wrinkle creams Yeah, wrinkle cream but appliances dependable cars swifters and our big achievement in advertising like, you know, if we're advertising our big achievement is that we managed to get the soccer uniform clean for the child But I do identify with that I was doing commercials and I was very successful at it and one of the things that but I was successful at being a very conservative mom But what possessed you then to move into this industry because you have an interesting story you're an IT consultant by trade I am an IT consultant and I was, you know, I've never done fashion, I've always been tall that's what I had and people would say, are you a model? How would I do that? You know, I just never grew up in that environment so at 38 my creative outlet was ballroom dancing and salsa dancing and I entered myself and I no longer had a way to express myself creatively and I was very sad because my job is very intellectual but I needed a new way and for some reason I came up with this idea, I think I'm going to start modeling which was kind of weird at 38 Come for you But I said, look, I'm not trying to be a model bunch, I'm just going to do it for myself, for the experience But that made me, I have to applaud because there's so many women out there who are kind of like stuck in a rut and I'm not saying you're stuck in a rut, but they don't see people who look like them in the magazines I was sharing with you guys I wrote an article to an editor to say in your whole magazine I saw one advertisement that related to mature women So for you to pick up the gauntlet and say, hey look, I'm going to go out there and promote women and look like me, I want to applaud you and tell you thank you that's inspiring for me because as where I'm at right now, I was not this way 10 years ago because I felt like I was not relevant so you reinvent your relevancy But I have a question, because I haven't what type of stuff do you model? I mean you talked about the wedding dress but there has to be other things, it's not just wedding dresses No, no, I do on my blog I do whatever I and my team want to do So if we decide we want to do our own we do it It's really important to me and I want to make sure we hit on this it's beyond fashion, it's really about restarting yourself Refinding your relevance at your age What was that journey like for you? Well, when I started the modeling it was just for the experience I was like I'm tall, maybe I could pretend that I'm younger or whatever and I went and I volunteered at the community photography school for adults, way out But were you nervous? And I looked like a female Zoolander trying to take those photos No idea what I was doing, I was all sexy Here's me We're going to follow up more with Jacqueline, we'd love to invite you back to this show, here on Every Way Woman Stay tuned Stay with us, we'll be right back Are you an Every Way Woman? Welcome back to Every Way Woman So we celebrate the trailblazers and today we welcome Robin to the show a woman who has truly perfected the art of redefining herself and restarting at any age Welcome, so I really want to talk to you about what it was like to re-invite yourself I think at the time you don't think about it or you shouldn't think too closely about it you just do what seems natural you follow whatever path is sort of outlined for you without trying to take too much control So let's rewind back to what your path was Let's talk about the crossroads you were at in your life Okay, I was a prison guard in Mailbox, I'm security You are a tough blonde I am, a tough cookie Which you find you don't want to do for your entire life or I didn't And I thought it would be fun to write So I was trying to think how I could get into advertising from prison guarding and it's not sort of one of those natural career paths So I I got a job with a temporary office service that sent people in when somebody was sick So you worked your way through this transition but were you scared? No, I wasn't because at that time I was fairly young and I didn't think much about it So I worked for this service and I only went to advertising agencies and sort of got to know it gently by being at the office And this wasn't the first time you've restarted I mean, you fast forwarded a couple of times even as a mother Your children grew out of the nest Now you have to reinvent yourself not as a mother but as a woman again as Robin That's true And that took a little more thought because you're used to being Jesse's mom or Robert's mom and suddenly you're Robin again and you're not quite sure how to do that anymore It's been a while So I think the biggest thing is to talk to other women and to talk to everybody really And that's why you're here That's why I'm here There's women here Other women are so smart and they always seem to know different things from you and so you get to know But don't you feel like some women are afraid to ask I think they are and I think that's a mistake Women love to talk or any woman I know loves to talk I mean at the grocery store wherever you are at school picking up your kids if that's what you're doing talk to the other women, talk to everybody At that time when you were transitioning your life and you said that you have to talk to other women what was one thing that someone told you that still sticks with you today? Well when I was finally got my green card down here and I'd been out advertising long enough that that wasn't going to work for me anymore Another woman at the school said I think Americans hiring flight attendants why don't you try that? How old were you at this point if you don't mind sharing? I was 45 when I started to be a flight attendant Wow Most people would consider that maybe even too late in life to restart a career A little long in the tooth but flight attendants aren't quite what we used to picture them when you were weighed every day and you know it's really interesting though because at 45 you were willing to step into a position where it was adventure time you weren't staying at home anymore you were all over the world and that was part of it that I think you have to look on life as an adventure every decision you make is an adventure and I think you have to realize nothing is final if I become a flight attendant and I loathe it I would have quit and found something I like better we can find what makes us happy but not if we're afraid to make a jump ever I even find in my life as I'm approaching my later 20s I'm afraid to I'm almost afraid to make that choice or make that decision and say you know what maybe the decision I made when I was in my younger 20s isn't going to work for me in my 30s and being okay with that and settling with that I almost feel like I'm letting myself down there's very few decisions you can make that are going to be final you can change your mind you can go back and try something else and I think that's the biggest lesson to learn don't be afraid of taking a jump into the unknown just because you're afraid that you're never going to be able to fix it if it's wrong but were you afraid? I don't think so, no I don't think I was afraid nervous maybe that's fair because I have friends I have a family if it didn't work out I would have to try something else I have a question I know someone who is in her 50s and she's very close to me and her kids are all done with school they have jobs, they have their own families they're out of the house and it's this woman and her husband but they're even having problems now within their marriage and I think it's because and tell me what your thoughts are on this in this bubble where she's like what next, what now my kids are gone, they have their own lives is my life over did you ever feel like that? I didn't because I was working when my kids left home and they haven't left that life they're still very active in my life I think first of all get a dog, second of all maybe go back to school find something, follow her passion or just something that will make her happy what if I'm interested in I'm interested in art, I'll go to art school for a while, something like that well thank you for inspiring us and inspiring all of you out there we'll be right back with more Every Way Woman we'll be back with Everyday Fitness 1, 2, 3 so our fitness expert Heather Binz is here to tell us what it takes to be a successful personal trainer so there's a lot of fit people out there how do you know that you can take it to the next level and take a hobby into a business we have to have a love for it, a passion for it if you don't love what you're doing and you don't have a passion for it it's not going to work, so number one that's the key you just got to love it, so let's say you love working out teach others to do it I would say if you feel that you naturally have that personality and that gift and people naturally gravitate toward you when you're working out that's one thing that happened to me I'd be working out and people started coming up and asking me can you show me how to do this, can you show me how to do that and it was like, hmm, little light bulb went on and that's one of the things if you feel that you don't have the issue of being in front of people and guiding them trust you with their body that you can go so as far as like starting to get clients was it just all word of mouth people coming up to you or how do you find the right clients well it it would be great if people just started coming up and saying can you train me to know that that doesn't happen I need to give you money it doesn't happen that way, basically you have to first create your niche and figure out who do you want to work with what kind of clientele and then what is your philosophy, because there's a ton of trainers out there and then once you've figured that out you have to actually go out and seek them and are there clients that you you've turned down because they don't fit what you need? Definitely I'm not the best trainer for every single person well and especially there's so many fads out there so do you have people coming to you for a certain fad and do you feel like the need to fit that niche? yes, sometimes I have individuals that come to me and they want to do pilates or yoga and that's something I don't specialize in but if I have someone coming to me to lose body fat and build their endurance, for example running marathons, chewing triathlons or just even improving their body and building some muscle mass so they can stay healthy or correcting the physical imbalances in their body, reducing pain, then I can work with that and do you help them with the whole body thing of like making sure they're eating right and all of that stuff? Definitely you have to, because a lot of it is the nutrition a lot of it's what you put in your mouth now let's talk about again with the business side of it when you're building a relationship and working closely with a client how do you make sure, let's say they're not coming on time or they're not paying how do you make sure that you're still having a good client or a poor but taking care of business? well if they're not paying they're not your client so the first thing is they're going to pay ahead of time and then if they're not showing up it's your responsibility to find out what motivates that client to get them to show up at some point it is on them to show up so it's finding that fine line but the key of being a positive personal trainer one that's successful in getting your clients to show up is motivating them properly and making sure they're enjoying the workout and it's fun and that there's something they want to do what about people who you know they want to get in shape but they like you're saying they're not motivated to get there can you help them with the simple step of just getting there and being motivated? definitely definitely I mean the hardest part for some of the people is getting in and seeing you for that very first time they're nervous you're about to do a fitness assessment and you're going to be learning about them and their body and so the key is making them feel so comfortable and then making it sound exciting and that you're really going to help change their life and prove their health and then before you know it they actually find themselves wanting to and you almost sell them the idea of being healthy and happy and fit and the other thing I wonder about something like this because just show me how to do some push-ups it's okay you know just show me how to do it like the doctors who are like you know I've got an elbow how do you know how much to value yourself? well I don't mind dropping a few tips here and there because to be honest you have to intrigue them and they have to feel that you have the knowledge and the expertise of what they're going to do based on their goal so give them a little bit of information but then put it into a tease and then have them come meet you and give them an appointment because in that appointment is where you'll take it to the next step do you feel like you have to do a lot of things like social media or to keep putting yourself out there yes nowadays especially because social media is so important and the key is never stop promoting yourself and never stop marketing and advertising even if you have a full book of clients you never know anything can happen always keep promoting have you ever run into clients who you've worked with for a long time paying you but they're like you know I'm good for it I mean those are the hard ones right yes I actually have had that happen a couple times and you build a trust relationship and you do have clients that you've seen for years and there is that trust and respect there and then sometimes you have to bring them back to reality if they're going a little too long I have had that happen a couple times and then I just learned my lesson and that's when I decided to just make sure it's always the same policy no matter how long you've been trading with me and you know it is a business so you have to treat it like that so if it's something you love you know you have to take care of business too so that's what it takes to be a successful personal trainer stay with us for tomorrow's stars are you and everyone warm up contest representing the east coast on the west coast is Brooklyn welcome to the show I'll let you be the judge of that what's up everybody mom started taking karate lessons she says everything is a weapon I can't take her nowhere we were in a restaurant the other day she was drinking her juice see this straw you could kill somebody with this get you a dart I'm like where are you going to get a dart from she said keep thinking it's a game we're outside a bird fly by she's like see this brother you can mess somebody up with this it's a dangerous weapon you can mess somebody up she bugging out sometimes she'll just run up and grab me like this and be like what you gonna do grab me like this and I'm like can you imagine walking through a dark alley and some guy just grabs me like give me your money and I'm like mommy and my mom jumps out like with a straw just runs up on him with a face to the feather I was in CVS today just shopping around they got home tests for everything now they got pregnancy test HIV test DNA test that's a home drug test now how does that work I'm pretty sure you know of you on drugs you ain't gonna be in the store like I wonder if I'm a crack head let me just grab one of these I'm gonna go find out this lady outside the CVS stopped me and was like excuse me miss do you have an extra dollar who the hell has extra dollars like I was in there counting my money like 19, 20, 21 21 oh hell no where this extra dollar come from I don't even want this one here you want it I don't even know if extra dollars be getting all in my way making my wallet too tight because hell man I ain't got money to just be giving away to people this homeless guy was outside shaking a cup full of change in my face I was like show off I'm so broke I'll window shop at the supermarket they like excuse me miss can I help you find something no thanks I'm just looking I'm so broke when people come over my house I make the food nasty on purpose so it'll last longer they being that stuff mad slow you ain't be so broke you get jealous of people pets be like that dog probably ate twice today he ain't got no job living in this nice neighborhood stupid dog alright let's get serious let me just ask you a question real quick you ever seen a cute little boy then you realize it's an ugly little girl whoo that is some freaky stuff you be like uh eww you seen an old baby look like somebody old uncle Ernest people try to say cute stuff about it they be like I'm before my mom tried to use him as a weapon she was like see this baby you could blind somebody with this I'm Brooklyn that's my time thank you so much no all babies I know are cute I'm associated with ugly babies I mean it what's next for you a lot of things I do a lot of parodies now on youtube at Brooklyn Jones comedy I just did an Iggy Azalea fancy parody which is called lazy I also did a Beyonce drunken love parody which is called chunky love so you can check me out doing parodies performing all around the city lazy you already know stay tuned for more everyway woman when we come back thank you so much for being here back to the community go to everywaywoman.com to find out how you can match our donations of undergarments for thanks for getting to know everyway woman this has been an everyway woman production I'm an everyday woman woman woman in every way yeah yeah I'm living my life living day by day