 Jabu jambu, this is Simon Kabu, chairman and CEO Bonfire Adventures, and you are watching SBM Buzz. Alright guys, I am hanging out to the CEO Bonfire Adventures Simon Kabu himself. How are you doing? Jabu jambu, I'm doing good. Yes, I'm doing good. I'm excited to be here. I'm excited to be here to kshikanya na my small younger brother Bahati. You see when you see someone a kuna bidi. You know, one thing I would like to say is that Bahati a kuna bidi amunchoa. Ya ni bidi ya ke, sometimes we talk even us. Siku ya ni ya nani ambiya ni koapi, I'm doing the shoot. You see, I can understand where someone a kuna effort. If that effort is one of them. So because of that, at least when he called me for the reveal, which I don't know it is until now. So I said I have to be a part of that big step in their life Bahati and D or Bahatis. So that's why I'm here. And again we have worked together for so long. And that's why it's good to support someone muna kuwanga dai. You know, it's a two way situation. You know talking of working with Bahati Saimo. You know, we saw some time back muli kwa ame wacha kufanya kazi pamoja. Wakasema teneile kampuni e kwe inatu afod. Wakayenda kwa ingine. Lakin ni sayizi na wana tenei wako. You know, your logo is on the backdrop. Bana pale. What happened? You know what I can say is that people sometimes, you see kuna vitu mingi sana. And if you see that people working together this particular time, later then after some time to kote na pamoja, kumansha there is something good that both of us see in each other. That's what I can only say. Yes. And it is a small world and this world, kuna zile, we have cultivated a big relationship with the Bahatis. Even that time we were not working together. We were still wana kuja nyumbani. It's not, it's pure business and there's nothing bad about any other things. So it doesn't mean we have a friendship that is cultivated. We have cultivated over a long period of time, regardless whether we are working together or not. Yes, that's how our relationship is. Yes. That is so good to hear in it all maturity for sure. Now that you've mentioned them, let me ask you, how can you describe Bahati and Diana as a couple? You see, we are, the Kabus and Bahatis, we meet very many times and we, both of us as a couple. And one thing I'd like to say is that both of them, they are dedicated. You see, as long as kuna stoleza internet, they are very dedicated to what they do as a family. That one I would attest to that. And the Bidiya, Diana and Bahati, you see, you guys will not know, maybe people who have a job, the way they work very hard, both of them. You see, sometimes when people are working so hard, you find people don't have time for better things. And that's how they value the family and that one I can attest to that. Yes. Wow, okay. Now you see, I wish Sarah was there, but I don't have time for that. Now Sarah has been trolled a lot on social media, and you know, you as the husband, how does that make you feel and what do you actually do now to that situation? You see, what I'd like to tell you is that the person who is talked about is someone who has some worth. What does that mean? There are so many other people who when they talk something on social media, no one talks about them. But if you see someone is talking about Sarah when she says something, it means that someone feels her worth, all her worth, people take it. So I feel that now, I feel that she is growing and grow her decisions to become, how can I say it? I feel that her decisions, she has a lot of effect and to affect people. That's why people feel, if Sarah says something, we need to jibu, because there are other people, many of them who know and bother to talk about them. So if you see what one is saying, munti kwa namatunda diyo na tu piwa kwa mawe. So ni kuma anisha, Sarah kwa namatunda diyo sababu mawe ina tu, ina tu poa. Kama ila si kwa me trend, labda meongelia wabibai, because we are human beings, we have a role in playing in that situation where we can make her feel even better. You see, people are different and people have different personalities. Sarah could have a different personality from me. I am someone who does not, I am not a misyongiangit, but when that happens, when she says something, I don't know what to say, I talk to her and I tell her, Sarah usi jali, what matters is only me. Hii ingine ni raya kwa iauku inge, or what matters is what I feel about you. If what other people feel about you, it's inconsequential. Yes, and that is the truth. You see, the same case applies to me. It's only Sarah who can question me in any aspect. Anyone else does not have any ma day told, you need to question me. Same case applies to her. Apart from the law, if I'm doing anything against the law, that's a different case, but if I'm doing something according to the law, it's only Sarah who can question me about anything else. And that's how we live. Yes, because apart from being a family, we do business together and there's so much that we share as me and Sarah. Yes. Osam kabutu kimalizia. You know you've been termed as a relationship, sir. You have done a lot, you know. No, of course I have to talk about you know, Jackie Marie Beya. Ilesi kwa mbae uliwa mua toka wongelisha na Eric. What came into your mind and decided actually to go and talk to them? You see, what I know and what I believe, there's no relationship or marriage which is perfect. There are ups and downs and when you are in that either up or down, it's good to handle things in a different way. And why I think I talk to people who are in that state is that sometimes emotions run high and some people go overboard and when people go that overboard you can do something then later who has a kuri grat. Why did I do this? Why did I do this? But when you take someone else who is non-partisan, comes into the picture, you are able to be. It doesn't mean that even me I have my own issues which we sort with Sarah and maybe some other friends. Yes, you see when we sort with maybe when we have our ups and downs in our marriage like any other couple. Which we don't say that me, me and Sarah we are perfect. No, we are not. And the same case, we have been this, we have been in marriage more days than maybe most of the people. Right now it's our 12th year. We might not be there at the 6th year to mewana kwa mua kwa miyaka mingi sana, but maybe the youth part kwa watu wakwa sosio media na ni ni maybe tuna elewa wile wile things are handled and that's why maybe I talk to people now I'm here to watch it, to fanya it, to fanya it, to endele it. Yes. You know some people blamed you for allowing Jacima Ribe to come on air kwa mlevi sakabu ya. So Siju wewone zasema ajejio story because they said she was not in a position to make a sober decision. I don't want to discuss the state that that state because I am not the right person to discuss that. I don't want to go into that story but there is what was discussed and that is what I see in Asia. In Asia kweili by the way, Erika li kwa metwambia tutapata feedback after two weeks uli Fuatiliya. I do. See I have been out of the country so why don't it our Fuatiliya because we normally talk all the time I will still talk not to again not to one how what I would I would love for every couple or every people in a relationship or whatever it is whichever kind of a relationship it is I would like peace and that's what where peace prevails and under starting and respect between the both parties and that's what I would pray for everyone not even them. So what happens is that it just by the means I think now things are better than the way that thing people you know can I tell you something people enjoy when there's that vita that's how Kenyans are what I enjoy is I don't know what's going on what's going on so yeah so what you're moving but when things are working for everyone people are not happy so I think when right now Hakuna ishiyotu is always in Maisha that's when I ended up in Maisha Alright Taimoa San Tessana we are looking forward to the feedback to Ske Kamamambu Iliyanda Vizuri Sawasawa San Tessana Nandime Shukuru Sada