 You're welcome back to the breakfast and plus to the Africa. Our final conversation this morning is about a proposed rise in the price of bread by about 30%. We know that the organization in Abuja, the association of bakers and caterers are saying that the cost of the ingredients is now so expensive and the price for business registration by NAVDAC and all of that is also very expensive. So they're saying the customers would have to begin to bear the brunt of these economic challenges. And we've invited our guest Mr. Rabi Abubaka-Uma, he's the assistant secretary of the association of bakers and caterers in Abuja. Yes, he will join us soon to discuss this, but we've been hearing from them in the news saying that the cost of everything is expensive, milk used to be this cost, now it's this cost. It's just unfortunate to see just how expensive everything has become in the country that even something that seems as basic as bread that is a staple food in Nigeria would now become very expensive. And only God knows if the common man can begin to afford it when they put their 30% increase in the cost of this, but they're asking Nigeria to regulate the cost of these items. They're saying NAVDAC should bring down their prices, cost of registering their businesses, they're saying the ease of doing business in Nigeria is nothing to write them about. And that's basically the grievances today. Well, it's not just bread, yes we're talking about, I haven't had bread in many months, almost a year. But it's really just, like you said, the cost of basic things in Nigeria is kind of rocketing. If you go to the market now to buy tomatoes or pepper or anything, you could tell that a lot of people are going through it. Bread might seem like the most common staple food across Nigeria, and so it might be one of the things that a lot of families would have to, of course, pull out of their diet because they can't afford it. But pretty much the same thing with so many other items or food items that a lot of people would have to, of course, pull out of their menu. A lot of families can't afford this. I heard a bag of rice now, 30,000 nair, minimum wage 30,000 nair. How many people can afford some of all these things? And it's really, really, really tough for Nigerians at this time. What exactly is that thing that might cushion the effect of these rising food prices? Not nobody knows. Petrol prices, of course, they're still talking about increasing it. Electricity tariffs are still going higher. The exchange rates, of course, is kind of rocketing also. Nigerians are going through it. Every other person might be able to afford these things here and there, but the millions and millions and millions of people who cannot afford something as basic as bread continues to increase every day. So yeah, it's a conversation that, of course, is important to have, but not just on television, but also in the National Assembly, in the State House of Assembly, and the lines of them would figure it out. Good morning to the Assistant Secretary Association of Bakers and Ketras in Abuja, Rabbu Abubakar Umar. Thank you very much for joining us. Good morning. Good morning, sir. Good morning, Umar. So I want you to tell us what exactly the challenges the association of bakers and Ketras are facing in Abuja regarding the rise in price of raw materials and registration. Yes, it's been difficult for us because the last time the raw materials started hiking like that, we attempted increasing the price which did not work because we considered the suffering of the poor people because the almond bread is kind of the poor man's food. So we have been producing actually at a loss. But right now from last week to now, I think the flower height to, like the increase was 1,000 Naira per bag of flour, only apart from sugar and other ingredients, like milk that we are putting in the bread is from last week to now, I think it increased about to almost 10,000 because we are buying it about 10 days ago. Now it's almost 50 or 52, some are saying. So most of us are not cutting it because if you go to Michael right now, there is actually no bread in the, you know, the demand is high, but the bread is low. Some of the bakers cut their production and some of them are even shutting down. So people must eat bread, that's it because it's the easiest thing that you can reach to eat. I eat it and drink water and go about your daily activities and so bread must be produced. So the only thing I think we are advising the bakers to consider, maybe we can increase, we are just advising because if they did not do, they will go out of market, that's the basic. Okay. Quick question, Ms. Umar, how much does a loaf of bread go in a buja right now? How much does it go for? Most of us did not increase the prices, but even before now, as you can find bread of 500, but like these big producers, big names, you can go in there and buy bread 600, 700. But like us in the bakery, in the association, most of us, you can buy bread of 350. That is why if we do not increase the price, we will go out of business. Alright. Rabiu Abubaka, Umar, we of course, we would have another conversation on this and of course also talk about the other bottlenecks that you are currently dealing with, government policies and the likes on a later date. Thank you for your time this morning and of course we hope that you will be able to continue your business and with time, people across Nigeria can afford that very, very sweet bread that you make. Thank you very much for joining us. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Alright. And that's where we will be wrapping up this morning. Thank you very much for joining us. It's been a very interesting Tuesday morning. Stay of course with us online on our YouTube channel and that is at plus TV Africa, same with Instagram and Facebook for now. I am Osaogi Ogbawa. And I am Annette Felix, have a good day.