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Yes, it didn't look easy Okay, I thought I clicked. Oh man. I hate it. What tweet deck does that I? I Thought I had clicked on your there's yet don't play the odd There's curse words in the audio, but I thought I had clicked on your video And instead I got a picture of Steve Bannon because it had flipped down Okay, now I'm looking at your video look at this awesome. Oh, I see I Have a gray face So it doesn't show you like what it looks like it just keeps like showing like hey talk here talk here So I just kept talking and I just kept adding to the thing Then eventually I just realized I was making a movie does speech to text though, right? Yeah. Yeah. No, that's not where that part It's working pretty good. Yeah Once you know what you're doing What's up guys The guy with the face that's why we call you Justin face. Yeah, it's all me mr. Face. Oh Oh Kung Fu drafter I look like a young porn version of Leo Laporte. I don't know who that's more insulting toward what? Who said that probably most insulting to pornography kung fu drafter has an email in our show today as a matter of fact I saw Veronica's and it worked well I mean now that I understand that it makes a video and not like just adds cool things to like a gift picture Mm-hmm. I understand a lot more. It's still a little bit a little bit complicated Yeah, all right. I'm ready to go. Y'all ready to go Let me hide All right, you do what you need to do Roger Here oh We go Daily Tech news show is powered by you to find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday April 6th 2017 I'm Tom merit Justin Robert young along the side for our Thursday ride Justin and man The news is like a thin window in an abandoned neighborhood today. Just keeps breaking. Oh my good Lord You might have thought that this Sunday in the citrus bowl It was the WrestleMania was the ultimate throw ride, but you have seen nothing compared to the Absolute rushing torrent of news for which we are about to lose upon your date Listen my friends if you listen to Justin Robert young and I discuss Planning the show on Justin's twitch stream We tore it all up since then you're barely gonna recognize this show Now we that way it was it was a good a nice little lineup, you know, we had a good little session But like now we got some we got some bonafide news. Hey, what do you say? We stop talking about it and start getting into it. We mean with a few tech things you should know Facebook's AI assistant M will now start popping into messenger chats to make suggestions Starting with Android and iOS users in the US before it goes worldwide Examples of what it can do includes sending an initiating payment request Calling a ride for you start to pull share in location. It's just gonna say hey Do you want to do this and then you can do it really easy? You know, it's an interesting idea. You got to wonder how many false positives before people disable it immediately Apple released its clips app for recording and editing video to be shared in several places including Vimeo Facebook YouTube mail and I message you tried it out. I Did and then I also note of those places Vimeo Facebook YouTube mail and I message There is no Twitter. I didn't realize that until afterward. I had to save it to my camera roll and post it My review the UI needs a little work little complex Little complex little complex. Yeah, but that that speech to text where it puts the text up on the screen for you It's cool. Yeah, it works really well Nvidia's new Titan XP graphics card announced Thursday Not only includes 12 gigabytes of DDR5 x memory and runs at 11.4 gigabits per second But for the first time we'll offer Mac OS beta drivers later this month and apparently they're gonna do that for the whole Pascal architecture based chips The Hackintosh Awakens Twitter unveiled its new lightweight mobile optimized version for a site called Twitter light targeted at markets in the Asia Pacific region Latin America and Africa that takes up less than one megabyte of Storage on a device. It's designed to use minimal data. Yes, just the website the mobile website mobile.twitter.com is now a web app a Lightweight web app kind of cool. All right Here are some more top stories euro gamer and digital foundry Reported those specs for Microsoft's upcoming Xbox console Currently referred to as Project Scorpio assume a D3. Well, we might get a new name for that features an eight core CPU at 2.3 gigahertz 40 compute unit GPU with 1172 megahertz and 12 gigabytes of GDDR5 ram. This is a fast Powerful machine. There's also a terabyte hard drive inside two and a half inch hard drive 4k UHD blu-ray drive and Euro gamer and digital foundry Not a verse to criticizing Microsoft probably to their faces said they were pretty impressed when they saw for its a motorsport Which granted one of the best-looking games. They've got running at a native 4k and 60 frames per second. I Mean Justin, I'm looking through this and the Euro gamer thing is worth to read if you're really into hardware They they dig deep into what's going on what Microsoft did when they built this custom AMD chipset up from the ground what they were trying to achieve But this is the opposite of the Nintendo switch They're going full throttle on the hardware and pushing out a Very sophisticated console with some like crazy heat management to make sure they can keep it in a compact box it sounds impressive and We assume that this is part of what they expect to have a big kind of summer rollout with all the conventions and everything coming up to Debut the idea that hey, there is a benefit to doing this iterative software. So iterative hardware rollout Sure, you might have to shell out a little bit more than you would otherwise the life cycle on these consoles is going to be much shorter However, this is the flexibility. We have we can now make these machines and put them out and For Microsoft they've been running second to play station sense the dawning of their new consoles And this seems to at least be something that is getting people's attention. Yeah I know a lot of people have been critical of this idea of consoles being iterative Although we are fine with other things like phones being iterative, but we use iPads iPhones Samsung sure we're used to consoles lasting longer and and so Microsoft and Sony with the PlayStation 4 Pro Bending over backwards to say the Xbox and or PlayStation you have now will continue to work for years ahead Don't worry one little bit all this is if you want to get 4k We're gonna do it But man when you read these Microsoft specs for project Scorpio first of all It's a big bold move by Microsoft to put themselves back in the game as they continue to tag along in second place behind the PlayStation and it's also a Way more powerful machine than a lot of people could afford to get as a PC So I'm curious if that $400 price tag that Euro gamer expects Will stick because then it becomes Almost a no-brainer if you're a serious gamer You also got to wonder well where that goes when it comes to a little bit more processor intensive kind of stuff as well as Stuff that is dependent on 4k graphics like virtual reality, you know, yeah No, this is this thing's gonna be great for VR. Yeah, this this would be a huge huge move in that direction I I also brought one last thing before we move off of this. I also think that this could potentially mark the point at which we started to differentiate desktop hardware and into not being desktop like the the desktop PC as an all-in-one can do everything device Maybe on its way out and and be replaced by these appliance versions where it's like hey This is a game console can do all kinds of things because it's got this power in it And maybe you'll get a dedicated video editing version of a box down the road And I I won't I don't think PCs will ever lose their ability to do multiple things But this is not oh, well, you know We'll use cheaper parts to make a cheaper product that can still play games really well because we fine-tuned it for that This is a powerful box. Yeah, but the key is the price, right because he is the price Yeah, you know right now even for a top-of-the-line PC You're going to be spending less than you would on several different boxes for several different things especially because Especially because you are going to have the ability to pick up something new without going out and picking up new hardware for it YouTube changed its partner program today So that partner creators will not begin making money on the platform until their channel has received 10,000 lifetime views in a few weeks creators who apply for their partner program that lets them make money will be reviewed after They hit the 10,000 view threshold creators who appear to community guy or start who adhere to a immunity guy community guidelines and Advertiser policies will then be able to have ads served against the channel and share in the revenue Now unmentioned in this is part of the reason why they're doing it which includes many big advertisers pulling out of YouTube as a platform because their ads were possibly if not actually sponsoring horrifying content including terrorism and Propaganda Tom is this enough I Don't know if this will be enough on its own But it's certainly the kind of big move that Advertisers and putting the pressure on Google and YouTube to do which is just make it hard it make it impossible for our ads to show up next to controversial content like that and This is a good move when I first saw it. I thought oh 10,000 subscribers Wow, that's pretty high not 10,000 subscribers 10,000 views So if you make a channel you start getting an audience You'll get to 10,000 views if if your channel is worth making money off of fairly quickly So so you'll be able to start making money if you have a decent channel Without too much delay, but there is a little bit of delay and Google will be able to have enough information now to say Alright, is this a valid site? Does this conform to our advertiser policies and they're not making any any Secret out of it in their announcement. They're like, yeah This is gonna help us crack down on exactly those kind of sites that advertisers don't want to be associated with Well, and also while the ISIS vids might have been the catalyst This has to be something that has been on the advertisers wish list for a long time because it also does just that little bit To eliminate totally low quality videos being a possible destination for paid-for ads Hmm. It's something that is randomly put up there That's maybe free booted for the millionth time or is just totally worthless if somebody's money Although because it's Google and YouTube a fraction of a cent is worth maybe is there is something that advertisers are not pleased with the question here or the cost rather is This does take a little bit away from the community It takes a little bit away from the idea that you can just make video and we will take care of the rest you have to demonstrate Commitment at the very least to create an account and get a certain threshold Who knows whether or not that will ultimately be a problem But it is YouTube cashing in a little bit on the community side to please the advertiser side Yeah, and you know, I did not says what is ten thousand views worth ten cents It might be a buck fifty it might even be a couple bucks But point point is still well taken you are not losing a lot of money by waiting for ten thousand views And YouTube isn't saving a lot of money by waiting for ten thousand views They're not going to run ads on you until you get those ten thousand views Twitter filed a lawsuit in the US district court in northern district of California Against the US Department of Homeland Security and its sub agency customs and border protection After customs demanded Twitter deliver information that would help it identify the user behind alt underscore US CIS US CIS does often stand for the United States Citizens and immigration services, which has been this alt version of which has been tweeting criticism of US immigration policy Now Twitter says the request is an unlawful use of the government's investigatory powers Twitter's lawsuit focuses on whether customs has the legal authority to make this request. They're not actually blocking it Particularly just because of the content they're saying I don't think you can ask for this based on the way you're asking it The custom and border protections initial order invoked a statute Which is mostly related to taxes on the importation of merchandise Twitter says that's that's not enough authority to unmask a user And then they bring in the usual chilling effect on speech if anybody can come and find out who you are with that level of of Probable cause they're they're basically saying you don't have probable cause at this point So this is obviously going to be a big headline Twitter versus the government, right? Especially complicated on a very superficial level because the president of the United States uses Twitter as his platform of choice to interact with millions of Americans and Those are broad as well however, I'm curious to know exactly how much of this is just you filled your form out wrong and You know whether or not this really is Twitter Trying to break new ground or stop from seeding new ground would probably be a more apt metaphor or If it's them just saying okay, you want to know what we have to put up with all Tech companies have to put up with a lot when it comes to homeland security and the NSA and everything But on this if you're not even going to bother To to give us enough to turn stuff over for you Then we're going to take you to court, you know, and we're going to make a public thing about it Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's fair to say external of any other considerations that if agency of the US government Files a request to you and you say well wait a minute tax taxes on importation of merchandise not what we do No, we're not going to comply with that Because we want to protect our users privacy unless there's a sufficient reason not to so I think Twitter has grand It has ground to stand on there whether this is you didn't file the right form Could be a consideration because if and this isn't what I see yet But if the reason was we think that saying alt USC is is Not a proper use and and is confusing and impersonating an agency people might think this is actually the USC is and it's not There's some validity to that And at which point that's why you need a judge to weigh in and talk about it But it does sound like they didn't like this account. They certainly weren't liking the criticism of it and they wanted to shut it down and Trying to get it shut down because they thought well, we can use this law. We think this will hold up in court. We'll see if it will Comcast announced its wireless phone service Thursday called Xfinity mobile all customers get unlimited talk and texting Then for data you can choose between $65 for unlimited or $12 a gigabyte the network uses Verizon along with Comcast Wi-Fi access points The voice calls start on one network. You won't be able to carry on when switched to another later on You also can't bring your own phone There is no zero rating of Comcast service But also no extra charge for tethering service will be available in 39 states in DC where people can get cable and internet service from Comcast as well This is totally a bundling play This is Comcast saying because because they're only operating in the regions where they have service We want to keep people subscribed to cable television So let's give them a good deal on wireless phone service. So they'll want to stay with us And and that's why this this is really expensive when you get up to a family of four Right, they don't have discounts yet for for multiple users But it's a pretty good price when you're talking about individual lines And it's pretty simple. You either pay 65 bucks for unlimited and yeah, I think there's a 20 gigabyte Max before you start to get throttled at certain times. That's the standard now across AT&T and Verizon and everybody And then it's $12 a gigabyte if you're like, I don't think I'll use that much But but at least I know what to expect if I go over Also, no zero rating is going to be a good thing for net neutrality fans who usually pick on Comcast for just such things They steered clear of that. They said no, we're not going to bother with that fight But we're also not going to charge you for tethering So, I mean, it's actually not a bad plan Really, I don't know what it absolutely isn't which kind of led me to the idea that you know with Comcast bundles They've always tried to go for three, right? And and it was always internet tv And then the other right and that's gone through home phone home security There's always the and Peggy if you look at this deal if they want to bundle home internet A a really competitive Interesting top of the line, you know, they're using the Verizon mvno So like this should be as reliable as Verizon along with the coverage of all the Comcast outlet access points That's also pretty useful The Peggy is cable tv They want people to stay on cable tv and now they got to invent a new Tier that is attractive So you're not just saying what so many people I do right now scratch my cable I certainly don't need a home phone Uh, just give me the give me the or sorry scratch my television. Just give me the cable internet. Yeah Uh, I'm curious how this this works out. I'll be curious if if Comcast ever Expands beyond their own regions because right now it's it's a regional player. It's not it's not a it's it's like us cellular at this point It's not a not a national player, but but it is an interesting and frankly well presented option It's not dead, you know, it's not the dead best necessarily Well, but they also they also have an opportunity Yeah, because I I don't know if they're going to venture this out and break it out and have it not be a bundle thing But it also kind of gives them a good opportunity because I'm sure they're going to get fairly well Reviewed on this that it's going to be an enjoyable experience But they don't have the burden on them that AT&T and Verizon do Uh as as wireless carriers that have to be like, you know, oh no, we're good everywhere Go all over the country and you will be able to have our service They're just like, hey, no, you know, you're gonna spend the majority of the time in your city And to be clear this will work everywhere It just won't be available like it won't be available to me because I don't live in a Comcast service area But if you get it, you'll still be able to travel to my area and use it because it's going to use the Verizon network So I mean the downsides are I can't bring my own phone. That's a deal killer for me personally It's not for most people But but switching is going to be hard for people who are like, wait, you mean I have to buy a new phone I can't just use the one I have and and they They really need to get to the point where a voice call can gracefully transition from the Wi-Fi network on the Comcast Stuff to the Verizon network once they and that should they said that should happen down the road Australia's competition and consumer commission the a triple c has filed a federal lawsuit against apple on behalf of 275 consumers who say apple declining to repair iPhones after customers got an error 53 The situation began last february when touch id sensors failed a security check after third party repairs Either repaired the screen or that sensor id button that home button a class action suit over the issue failed in the u.s But a triple c chairman rod sims says denying a consumer their consumer guarantee rights simply because they had chosen a third party repairer Not only impacts those consumers, but can dissuade other customers from making informed choices about their repair options Man i'm curious to see where this goes apple usually fights pretty hard about that they they certainly will maintain that by restricting third party Repairs they are indeed protecting and preserving the apple standard Of excellence for which they are known for so this seems to be Something that that's going to be a very very interesting fight for for apple. Yeah, and if apple's smart They'll just they'll just say you know what fine anybody's got an error 53 will cover it under warranty. Just just do it Just whatever just you know, enjoy throw another shrimp on the barbie Hey, folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in less than five minutes You got to subscribe to our companion show daily tech headlines.com All right, folks nike has a report today That is good news for bitcoin not talking about blockchain this time. We're actually talking about the cryptocurrency bitcoin Last year japan voted to end the eight percent consumption tax on bitcoin. So that ends this july That was treating bitcoin as a commodity a lot of governments do that where they say sure you can have a bitcoin But it's like owning a a a bar of you know iron. It's a commodity. It has value, but it's not money Japan's ended that they're like no no consumption tax on bitcoin We're going to call bitcoin money and in fact as of april 1st bitcoin is officially recognized in japan as a method of payment Now there were more than 4200 merchants accepting bitcoin at the end of 2016 nike pegs that at about 4500 right now so that's not a ton but Coin checks resupress Has been letting japanese people pay their electricity bill with bitcoin So there is a a more pervasive route there and nike reports that two big retailers Are partnering to accept bitcoin recruit lifestyle is going to partner with coin check And include in recruits point of sale app air reggie the ability to pay by bitcoin now that app is used at 260 000 locations and Key to our later discussion air reggie is compatible with alley pay, which is very popular with chinese tourists Customers use the tablets and their phones to pay from a bitcoin wallet So use your phone you come up to the tablet at the point of sale boom paid by bitcoin Now bic camera is also partnered with bitcoin exchange bit flyer And customers at two tokyo stores starting today, which is friday in japan, but starting today Can pay with bitcoin and get rewards points like they would if they pay with cash because it avoids the credit card processing fees if that trial goes good They hope to expand it to other bic camera stores in japan as well and and justin I think the point of all of this is japan wants tourists, especially chinese tourists who like to use bitcoin for various reasons to Spend their money when they come for the olympics Yeah, I guess that that is the big the the big the big carrot that is dangling in front of uh The decision makers here is they are about to face a gigantic influx of humanity and they certainly do not want to leave any money on the table Making bitcoin, which is very attractive to places that have Governments that tend to restrict You know things if not, you know money specifically is China's got two currencies as a currency for in-house. There's a currency for external use And and so bitcoin is very popular in china because it makes some things just simple Is this when we look back in five years decisions by a technologically forward thinking country like japan Going to be something that we look at as a domino falling for more global corporate acceptance of bitcoin There are a lot of things have to go right for that to play out in my opinion. Let's lay it out but Here are the what ifs if enough chinese users Are bringing bitcoins to japan with their alley pay apps in hand And enough of these retailers. I mean recruit lifestyle is pretty big 260 000 locations I think you're gonna need a few more Let's say a couple other retailers before 2020 jump on board And the olympics happens and suddenly everybody's like no you're paying with bitcoin How do I do that if that starts to become the talk of the olympics, right? Obviously the olympics would be the talk of the olympics But one of the one of the stories you hear buzzing out of there is Man, you know, there's a lot of people shopping with bitcoin and we see that headline of x million bitcoins used To buy things during the 2020 olympics real gold medal in tokyo Was made of bitcoin I think then you start to turn a lot more heads who say well, shoot that worked that drove sales once that drives sales That's when people start to pay attention because I mean again my my my question here is What is in it for the players that need to make this easier to use because if you were to ask me now I'm sure it would only take a little bit of googling for me to figure out how I could easily use bitcoin But aside from gimmicky stuff, like I think, you know, there's a couple bars in austin that have bitcoin Etms and and you know, I'm sure that there are some in the bay area The idea of using bitcoin for things like, you know, a cup of coffee, right? Not exactly seem Abundant. Can I use bitcoin at this noodle vending machine? Right? Yeah, that's that's what we're looking at and That's why I think this really does rest on the chinese tourists because Americans coming over they barely got chip and pin, right? There's not going to be a bitcoin app that they're going to be able to use with these terminals easily It's going to take work But since alipay is involved suddenly it's like man all all the chinese tourists have alipay Everybody's scrambling to figure out how to how to use alipay in tourism locations across the world So that they can rake in more of that cash As as chinese tourists go and spend their money overseas Uh, you know, and alipay is at the forefront of that. That's where it's like, oh, well I already have this so I can already pay in bitcoin and I'm already sort of familiar with bitcoin That that's what makes it work for me possibly The other thing that is interesting on the retailer side is this concept that like You know when when apple Uh launched apple pay. I remember there was a the consortium of Like cvs and and oh, right. Yeah, they tried to make their own thing But the idea being that we were at a breakpoint Of how we pay for things technology had made it Easier for us to You know change the way that we exchanged, you know money for goods And they very much were invested in a future where they could cut out credit card transaction fees Because they were that that became this de facto way to spend money People were carrying cash on them less and less They if if now we can break and now it's let let's deal with The the the tech companies so we don't have to deal with the credit card companies Apple pay samsung pay all run through credit card unions that they wanted to create their own version where it was like Only 19 000 simple steps that involved you scanning a qr code, right? what This is what the interesting thing about bitcoin is that this is another non-fee way to pay and retailers will Always look for a way to get that in there So i'm i'm curious to see if this is a success because i would love to see another option Yeah, the other thing is will it change japanese behavior We you know once the tourists leave at the end of the olympics Will there be more japanese who then picked up the habit, right because the the dominant Mode right now is ed or suika. I used the suika card when I was in japan Last and it was great because you could use it across transit But you could also use it at vending machines. You could use it at shops and it's just tap and pay It's just nfc And again, there's no transaction fee. You know, I mean there's a little bit of a fee to buy the card But so so can you can you pull those cards out of japanese shoppers hands and get them using bitcoin? It's another big question I guess that is that it is the other thing is that unless you are in a situation like like the chinese tourists are Where there is a barrier to getting easy money to spend while you are out and about You know the the the solutions to pay right now aren't really all that bad You know like yeah, because you know for for for customers for customers at least because they don't have to pay the credit card fee Well, there's gonna have to be easier ways to do it for everybody We'll keep an eye on it Thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit keeps these stories coming You can submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit dot com A few emails before we leave first of all kurt marina aka the kung fu drafter longtime patreon supporter Is comment in the chat room right now writes as a longtime employee for a civil engineering firm with a heavy specialization in regional airports I find this topic very interesting while i think zunem arrow has some great goals I have to wonder if they have considered the acceptance of their intent That is to say will regional airports get on board this refers to yesterday's story of the company that Wants to use the small regional airports excess capacity To create a new network of planes using hybrid electric planes that don't need as much fuel Their contention is We can we can do this because it doesn't cost as much because we can use these electric planes. Well kung fu drafter points out an airport's fixed base operations derives a massive percentage of its revenue from fuel sales While there are other incidental revenue streams It's almost fair to say that the entire airport facility is a funnel to sell fuel to aircraft operators As far as I can imagine electric or hybrid aircraft will greatly cut into that revenue He also wondered if regional airports would have to upgrade parking upgrade security If they start to get more people coming in Whether they would even have to adjust to the shortened life of aircraft paving due to a sudden increase in operations per year It's one thing to say you've got the capacity. It's another thing to actually have to deal with that capacity So they had great insights kurt. Thank you so much Uh collin writes regarding twitter reportedly seeking the ability to let cable subscribers log in and watch their tv on twitter Who writes hey dts crew? I will produce I produced movies and television Uh, I produced movies for television rather and in my experience networks pay a whole lot of attention to twitter For better or worse overnight ratings and tweets seem to form the basis of their opinion of a premiere I wonder if this move is aimed at the networks rather than the users There are limits on what information can be collected about viewers from cable boxes And twitter might be able to offer a way around that and sell more comprehensive metrics So I it might be a way to monetize existing users even if they don't dramatically grow the user base just a thought Oh, that's a great thing though. That's a great thought twitter being able to share extra analytics With companies because they're allowing authentication through their servers Would be a big sell Well, and and it it bullies on the idea that we had right here on this podcast I think it was last week about things that twitter could do about you know They should be a place where you can watch the things that everybody is are talking about Uh, I still think that their better way to do it is to create their own Service that you can that that you can use and then you can still you can sell a walled garden information to everybody Uh, based on your twitter user history not as much information to sell though in that case. Why not do both? You could Yaru in malaysia was listening to our topic yesterday on super intelligence and dangers And has a science fiction recommendation yaru says it's an anime series called Psycho pass set in the future where japan is the only country in the world that is not in ruins And is ruled by a super powerful artificial intelligence that makes the decisions for all the inhabitants Everybody has a crime coefficient index or the likelihood of committing a crime Once your mental state changes that it gets high enough you'll be arrested and detained It had a bit of a minority report and ghost in the shell anime version feel to it It's a good example How like your guest said yesterday that fiction is one of humanity's superpowers and how it gets you thinking on these issues Once again, it's a series called psycho pass. You might want to check it out And finally travis rides while not directly related to technology Reuters published a letter from the editor-in-chief concerning news reports reporting integrity Uh, especially uh, interesting is the planned inclusion of the intermittent backstory to help understand and how and why stories came together This additional content would be quite powerful context for readers who choose to engage at this level Interestingly as tech companies work to combat fake news The role as an aggregator Vice reporter keeps them from these more elegant journalism solutions. That's interesting It's interesting to see Reuters, you know stepping forward to say hey Let's let's help you understand how it is we put together this story And that could become the kind of marker you look for and whether to to trust an outlet or not is Do they you know pull back the curtain a little and show you how they put it together? Plus it's just fascinating for anybody like myself who's interested in how journalism is done Yes, yes, it's an interesting idea Uh, if if I might kind of walk back the enthusiasm a touch Very often the best reported stuff Uh, you can you can read it just by reading it, you know the the more direct quotes the more Uh, you know, I'm always a fan of data dumps, you know, like when you Especially on the internet where there is infinite space. Give me every page of the report that you uncovered Give me every, uh, you know, give me full interviews in in addition to the quotes that you just used In the story like I'm always for more of the reporting Getting out there, but I don't know if a blow-by-blow of exactly how things came down the pike Is all that valuable considering that you're still gonna have to redact a bunch of stuff to protect Uh, uh, you know anonymous sources and in really big investigative stuff Yeah, they're saying from time to time. So it's yeah, it's not going to be appropriate for for every story out there But I do think that We as people who both went to journalism school look at stories and we see how it came together a lot of people can't see that Sure So this may be stuff where we look at it and go well, yeah, obviously you talked to that person because you quoted them Right, but some that might be more beneficial for some people. I'm always I'm always for more transparency Definitely, definitely. Well, thank you. Justin Robert young transparently speaking. What are you up to? Uh, everybody can go ahead and check me out at twitch.tv slash justin our young streaming every single day In fact, I'll be streaming right after this on the channel of uh, you're and my mutual friend Uh, willy dills gregory. He and I will be uh going through The journey to ungoro the new expansion From hearthstone Excellent excellent. What's up dills? 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It's a desert topic I like don't I have to go with the It's not because I like sticks because it's it's a good You know, this is the thing like does anyone under the age of 25 Get that reference or even under the age of 30 get sticks as a reference. I don't know. It's a good question Kids these days know sticks they uh, somebody performed carry on my wayward son on the voice Yeah, people know that but it's the same in tv shows and stuff Come sail away So we'll see this is my question paradise. I don't know people know it because It was parodied or referenced by something else For example, I know a few people who only know songs or things because of the simpsons Because the simpsons made fun of it. I bet sticks is one of those bands people recognize their big hits But don't know who the band is yeah, I think I think yeah, I mean I can be Carry on my wayward son's been in so many movies, right? Right. Especially comedies. It's like it's it's a great comedic foil for like an over dramatic if you're playing Like a hanker man Sure. Yeah, exactly But carry on my wayward son is kansas. Yeah, I don't know that sticks has a song Lady Lady yeah, no, you're right. I've seen I've seen lady use the top stick songs See that's a thing it sticks even for our age groups like mr. Roboto mr. Roboto might be the biggest Oh, come sail away and mr. Roboto that's so come sail away I guarantee more people know it through the south park cartman singing reference mr. Roboto though. Mr People know mr. Roboto We'll see I'm curious. I really am. I wouldn't like because the culture moves at such a fast frenetic pace. I mean, you know Like you like wasn't Veronica telling us like a month ago that she was in a class or a programming class And they're talking about r.e.m. And so it's like who's r.e.m That's r.e.m. Also r.e.m You know, that's that's a kind of music that is oddly less relevant now than I think sticks is How it sticks relevant because sticks Six fits more in that Like and I'm going to say something that already is a data reference, but like like that guitar hero kind of Well, so that's the other thing. I wonder if people know songs because of guitar hero Yeah, this is a great guitar hero. Absolutely. And and also You remember r.e.m. That whole like, you know college rock movement in in the 90s was very much kind of a reaction against that corporate Yeah, the other corporate 70s and 80s We were an r.e.m Station and then I started to play less r.e.m as the program director and Several people hated us because of it Did uh, and what is what is the biggest r.e.m. Song? Uh, uh, stand not stand where you, um, it's the end of the world. It's the end of the world Isn't it that's not using my religion my religion or hobby number two I hated that song losing my religion. That was what I was in I did the I did that record release party Every coffee shop around a college camp has played that With some time during the day. It's just uh with roger yelling that is not you in the corner No, where's he doing the spotlight? Well, this is track lighting. There's a multitude of spotlights Uh, I think demo already got to a mr. Bitcoin is at the top. Yeah done Also, there's something about this being episode 2003 that just fits well with that title. I don't know why it looks good It looks like a uh, uh, a model number Yeah Pottle number 2003 2003 domo arigato mr. Bitcoin Finally, have you sat through that? I've I've actually sat through the whole thing and it's pretty embarrassing at some points of it What thing the the the uh, the whole sticks that kind of rock would it go rock opera? Oh, you mean the whole album? Yeah, wow, it's just I just never Oh my god, I had the album. It's cringey like parts of it's like, okay. I guess I mean, he's Just trying to be very he's trying to be very profound But it doesn't come off very profound. It just comes off as like sticky. Okay. This brings up an interesting thing for me Once I have discovered a band the next album that comes out always feels like it's less important Like oh, yeah, but that's after I discovered them So none of those none of those are really count That's it like I always devalue that and mr. Roboto is the first sticks album I bought After my sister introduced me to sticks losing my religion that album Was the first rem album that came out after I started really getting to know them on radio and college So I always discount them like oh, they can't be that popular That was after they had reached their peak like I feel like once I discovered them They must have reached their peak. Do you guys have that same? I think I think when you automatically Reach out and grab for their best of anytime you see a best of compilation I tend to think they've peaked out Like maybe when you said losing my religion was the number two I was like, oh, I guess it is but I always devaluate because I'm like, yeah But that's off that album after I'd already you know gotten to know them it's uh like I it's it's weird because um Like all that I'm trying to think of all the band all the albums I bought They're all kind of in the middle when they were on Heavy rotation and that's why you know because that's why you buy it But is that in the middle of a heavy rotation? Does that mean it's like at the the middle or at the tail end? Yeah, like when when Depeshman's violator came out and you're like, you know policy of truth or whatever And it's like in every other freaking TV show Do you is it is that is at that point? Is it just overplayed or is it just or is it just self-loathing? It's Maybe you know, there's a part of you when you're in college you tend to be very cynical about like this is too likeable. It sucks Yeah, like people used to do that. It's like this song. Oh this song is um, what was that? Like like how they like like if an indie or alternative bands like oh, that's just a corporate song Like that's something they would put in an album Well, but I think part of what feeds into that is there is that thing where a band like boston That hadn't had an album in a while that makes a comeback album After you know, you're like, oh, yeah, my older sister listened to them And third stage is now out and it it really isn't as good as their other stuff Well, it's um, what's it more than the feeling more than the feeling I always get more of the feeling and uh What's the one from uh, is it asia? So, yeah He didn't a moment. Yeah. He didn't know I always get those two bands and songs. Is that like I transpose them? Wow The more than the feeling is my sister's era of music and then he to the moment was when I was buying 45s But how much time was really between those two Four years Yeah, like is that it felt like forever, you know, it's the difference between me being eight and 12 Yes, I guess that's like an epoch In musical terms. I don't know just it is is this all just old man talk Hey, no, I I don't know. I like music I like beat cross beat. Well, no, I mean no Because I I can't say anything because I could have these same conversations with people of my age about different bands that people don't give a Shit, well, that's what I was wondering is is there a point where a band that you like you're like you're just like Oh, yeah, no, it doesn't feel like those albums are as good I I say that about a lot of 90s bands try to go back. So why did I buy this? Like Uh, like final Death rattle of rock era and like, you know, the before all the autotune robots took over all radio Um, and and we were only allowed you to Like that that I remember being really good that I listened back to and I'm like, yeah Jesus Like that whole stage where every rock band had to have a dj I remember I was into that at the time not so much Well, what I'm I'm curious is like like a lot of late night mid to late 90s bands I don't know if they have the same if they have the same maybe it's just generational But I don't think they have the same mind share that The the generation that came right before them did like, um Like they threw you like you had a bunch of bands like county crows you had Well, you had a band that came out of late 90s. Yeah late 90s. Okay You know, I'll start you're an all-star. Was that band I keep trying to think uh smash mouth There's like a just a bunch of bands that all came kind of rolled out lit and like now you're an all-star. Oh, yeah I remember lit. Yeah, there was just um, uh, what's that? All-american rejects like a lot of it just kind of felt it like, you know You know, they think they they were in that transitory period where it was like cool when you they were on the radio But then people moved quickly on to something else It was it. Um, was that canadian one? Uh fat lip Is that it? No, no, that was it. That was some some 40 some 41 some 31 Some 41. Yeah, that's uh, yeah the um There's just like a lot of bands like that or right around that time Well, I've been rapping, you know rap was big, but the idea was there were still like really hot rock acts There was still a rock radio I remember the first time one of them one of the big moments that I understood that race was certainly a construct that affected My life was when the rock radio station played the beastie boys It's like wait a minute if it's not If it's not sabotage and you just play an intergalactic one of these things not like the other Yep. No, I remember arguing whether we should play Fight for your right on the rock station that I worked for Because they're like, but wait, I think it's I think it's rap And then someone's like no, but it has a lead zeppelin sample in it. So it's okay. Yeah I remembered like cross genre things or like people were totally like, what do we do? This sounds kind of like, I mean you had that issue in the early 80s, right or late 70s early 80s with Kind of poppy country music like well, do do we put juice dude in country or sit more pop? you know, so it's So it's always a bit of a kerfuffle, which is why things like I think Spotify and Pandora Um are so popular. Maybe not super popular but popular To pick what you want. I like what I like Isn't that what people say like what kind of music like? I don't know, but I like what I like Like if I hear it, I like it. That's how I know Because at some point I think the There was a a ridiculous level of subdivision for for music genres Okey-doke I am published you are published as a rather weighty old man conversation Thanks everybody for watching Go enjoy whatever music makes you happy indeed