 Okay, I did just put in a link from wired where it isn't the one shot is like a screenshot of the rules But the all the rules are unwired. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. That is helpful And I have many comments and thoughts now so good well me too especially because every time you start up something new and some like People that may not be familiar with you or have gotten used to you not being around Are like, oh, you're in my feeds again. They start grumbling about things and Twitter's the place that they do it Good at that No, the thing about the center is they made a big they made a noticeable shift from musicians to post-production so they started selling a lot of like digital audio workstation equipment monitors SWAT not software, but a Just like sound cards and stuff like that. Yeah, they never used to sell Just a I'm guitar center has saved me Today pick of the week Put in a music article Sarah was kidding But there actually was one that kind of came in late So I did at it, but I'm not making you talk about it It was with Jason, I think and it was and I was like I had just texted whatever you do Don't ask me about music you go. So Allison. What do you think about this music card? No, no, no, it was clearly on purpose which made it hilarious. Oh really. Oh, yeah, it was hilarious I was just like you were I wish I had a better memory, you know with live shows. I'm like, I'm sure I did do that But I don't remember there have been so many People asked me about something about last week's like my last week guest on chitchat across the pond and my answer is Yeah, who's on chitchat last week, right, right? Well, that even sometimes, you know, someone will You know a clip will resurface of you know some, you know old tech TV show or something from a long time ago, you know And I'm like, is that me? I know that's me, but like what am I wearing? Who is that person? You know, why do I I don't remember that day? It's very odd. I was describing to somebody I was talking in front of a friend of mine But I was talking to somebody else I was referring to the fact that I learned Fortran in college But then I never used it for anything and my friend looked at me goes. Yeah, you did you did your master's project in Fortran? I said really and I pulled it out. It's like there is a bunch of code typed in there I have no memory of that. Oh my gosh. That's so funny like people Yeah, it's true. So we don't have a thing of the day Yeah, we don't have a thing. Oh, did I did did I not delete that? It's I mean, it's okay If there's not a thing in there, I won't I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything I actually do that because I don't I don't want that time code in there And then Allison you see that there's an email that you're reading under mine of that email. That's fantastic Okay, good. Good. Good. Good And then you know the thing about how I highlight the top row for timing I do. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm You'll be you'll be steering this. Yeah, this yacht Like that means hurry up move on So if it's red that means you should move on orange means you got like a minute 60 seconds Tell it goes red and what row is doing that row one. So basically you'll see it. It hevers at the top I'll do this orange. You got a minute left and then Yeah, and it's not like when you see the red you have to like stop what you're doing and you know, but it means wrap up It it means you know what you've said enough Zip it You've said it's a nice visual way for me not to have to say that right. Oh, so we're ready to go We are I just want to make sure you know, I'm just just because I Think it'd be weird if it was not there. You can close it if you want to we're about to go live Now now you can post if you want to you're about to go live Steve likes that might this window to be closed on my right So, let me know and I'll start the music So you do the Len Don't mean it's time Len. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure Am I still hissing? Uh-huh. Oh, man Is that I think you have to weigh up because you I know hear that too We had we had a mute earlier and it went away. I don't think it's you No, I don't either because I can now I think he muted. That's weird that that happens. I'm on a week You're you're over modulated to You sound okay to me Len, but there is there is a hiss It's it there's a there's a auto gate thing on your 131 right Keep me honest, I like it Okay, yeah, so I'll start with line three and then you I'll give you a count and then you'll just start with Daily Tech New show. All right three two Daily Tech news show is powered by you to find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Friday, October 20th, 2017 Tom Merritt has the day off. He's traveling to one of those weddings that he's always going to but I'm here I am Sarah Lane and I'm actually remote. I'm in San Francisco today But I'm holding down the fort and I'm not doing it alone because we have Allison Sheridan here as well Coming in from pod feet productions here. All right Another undisclosed location speaking of those Roger Chang is our trustee producer. We couldn't do anything without him I am here to help hold down this fort And like every Friday no matter who's here or who isn't there's always lent for all to hello Len Hi, Sarah. How are you? Yes? I am like a staple of Fridays. It's great to be here Good sure if nobody was here it just be him. He just be drawing and everybody would still tune in Absolutely, that's what I do anyway And and you'll be drawing throughout the show as you do on Fridays and all of our regulars know this about you But if we have any new folks, you'll get a surprise at the end of the show. They're always they're always great And today will be no exception All right, let's start off with a few tech things you should know Reuters reports close to two dozen major companies in technology and other industries That's Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, Intel, Uber, IBM The big guys and others plan to launch something called the coalition for the American dream The coalition will push for legislation to allow young illegal immigrants a path to permanent residency This is according to documents that Reuters obtained according to a sign-up form for this group 72% of the top 25 fortune 500 companies employ DACA recipients All right, I just want to make one really quick comment I love this because it's really showing us how powerful those people are what they do bring to the tech industry and to other industries You know on my education level on what the DACA people do is I mean, it's amazing Well, and certainly even from a from a financial standpoint you know if you've got a big company and the the numbers of people who could be affected by this are so high and Could could potentially, you know change the the face of the company if they if they were to go away There's some incentive there as well. I had no idea. No idea before this All right Here are some more top stories in a new report KGI analyst Menchie quo estimates that Apple will have two to three million iPhone 10 units available at launch on November 3rd supply appears to be stifled By low initial yields on the flexible antenna the wide-angle camera and the dot projector for the face ID system Hey GI also dropped estimates of how many phones Apple will ship in Q4 by five million units Now expecting it 25 to 30 million which of course sounds like a lot But for Apple at the you know, that's that's actually a that's a constrained number. Yeah, that's these these stories are so depressing I mean, I'm just sitting there trying to figure out what I'm going to do at midnight Trying to decide not to cry if this doesn't work out, right? So you're you're so what is your you're an iPhone user then and you're going for the 10 Is that yes, even I'll both be going for the 10 at at midnight there It's actually technically not my turn We we do in every other one so that there's always a new phone in the house to review But this is just too fun not to jump in so I told him if we're both gonna be pushing the buttons as hard as we Can if mine gets ahead of his he gets it first I know I'm just a darling, aren't I Give him take kind of thing going on. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm not rushing I I will get the 10 at some point, but you're not gonna lose sleep over no No, I I missed it last year and I feel like maybe those days Who knows who knows? It's a That's awfully mature of you will not be PayPal users can now send peer-to-peer payments over Facebook messenger according to PayPal The option is accessed by tapping on the blue plus icon within messenger Selecting the green payments button to send or request money and selecting PayPal as the source to date over two and a half million Users have linked their PayPal account with messenger. Well, I certainly haven't I Didn't not do it on purpose, but that's pretty big number. I use Facebook messenger quite often Haven't haven't made any payments via that system. What about you Allison? I haven't through Facebook But this is what really confuses me is they've got the they own Venmo, right? So that's that Venmo inside iMessage and I use that all the time, but But why is it PayPal inside Facebook messenger? Why isn't Venmo inside there? In fact, why don't Venmo and PayPal link up? Why can't I spend money in Venmo that pulls out of my PayPal account? Why are the why are there two separate things? What is the? Yeah, differentiation Recently it was a story that we covered a few days ago PayPal had announced that Venmo would be integrated in and PayPal point of point of sales systems, which are you know scattered across the country certainly in the US anyway and that we all said Oh, that makes sense right because PayPal owns Venmo, but they do operate as very discreet companies still and One would think Competing companies and the fact that one owns the other it doesn't matter to PayPal But it has always confused me too. I guess this is a matter of PayPal saying well Where does brand recognition resonate with people if if if if a certain group of people like the Venmo brand Then what do we care and we own them anyway? Let's just Sort of get our services out all over the place where where people might use them I just it is it has been a strange relationship or seemed to that way. Yeah Well moving on to space everybody like space right this is pretty exciting private aerospace manufacturer and space fight company blue origin Successfully fired its BE4 rocket for the first time congrats blue origin It's the planned engine for the company's new Glen reusable orbital rockets Orbital rocket wouldn't work without this as well as being offered for the United Launch Alliance's Vulcan rocket The company tweeted out a video today of the test known as a hot fire It was conducted at blue origins test facility in Texas and it's a big step in development of the engine It's gonna play a big role in blue origins economic future. You know blue origin is not a very old company I think it's been around since 2000 when you're talking about space flight Big milestone for them. Yeah, I'm I'm again I'm fascinated on this one on a different topic the the whole idea that there's these Companies that have come out of nowhere, you know space X and blue origin that are gonna get us into space that are putting us into space In such a short amount of time I worked for an aerospace company for 35 years and the amount of rules and regulations and Process and drag that are on you. I mean, you know to install a new Compute server takes a year, you know, I mean the idea of building spaceships in such a short amount of time is is phenomenal to me and I mean, it I think it's fantastic that this is breaking out in this way But I still don't understand how they can do it how they don't have the regulations and I mean They must not have the process stuff that we had to deal with that's for sure Well, yeah I mean if you you've got 35 years of experience in in in this sort of company capacity that a lot of other people Don't you know how slowly things can move to what do you chalk it up to well? The technology is just better now or there's something about this privatized sense of the aerospace industry where things are able to move Without regulation that perhaps they need more of what's your sense? I don't know if I would say need more of necessarily It might just be the build-up over time in any company that has been around for a long time is like it to add A new process is real easy to get rid of an old one is hard. So it just kind of it just kind of keeps keeps adding up And now these aren't military based Rockets and stuff. So it's a little bit different than the stuff that my company had to deal with But still I think I think it might just be longevity, you know that everything everything dumb you ever did You're still doing I mean every once while you figure out something to stop doing but not as often as you should probably Yeah, well congrats to blue origin, you know, it's a It's always it's always nice to see something like that at least work plus its competition, right? You get to watch Jeff Bezos and and Elon Musk head-to-head, you know, that's exciting We're sure yes, and we've seen you know some unsuccessful tests, but from you know across the board So I feel like hard rockets are hard and we I think Everyone would agree. Yeah, I'm not gonna go into it rocket anytime soon, but I but I want them to work perfectly for anybody who does For any cargo that maybe rocket into space Exactly. All right moving on at twitchcon 2017 today in Long Beach, California Twitch announced new features for streamers Achievements will allow creators and streamers to grow their status while while helping new streamers understand the process and grow New audiences stream summaries is a new dashboard that offers viewing and activity statistics Rituals will let creators welcome new visitors and an existing feature called raids has been updated Viewers can now join a raid and then drive traffic to another streamer with a click Twitch says the new features will go live in November along with the ability for partners and affiliates to start earning Earning revenue through digital items sold via the extensions feature Well, we know some folks who are at twitch con. I believe Justin Robert Young is one of them and She was regular on on DTNS, of course, and I've never been to twitch con But I'm starting to to get to know the twitch platform More recently just because you know this whole podcasting thing kind of start looking into, you know How how all these things work sounds like some some some great new features? I certainly I know that that having more statistics and and understanding more about the community Who's who's following a stream at any given time is something that everybody wants more of so that all makes sense what does anything stand out to you Allison of of a feature that twitch didn't have that You know, I'm not before or don't know much about twitch. I'm afraid I know it's that gaming thing over there The one that confused me was this idea and I must not I must just not understand what a raid is But they they're saying you join a raid and then drive traffic to another streamer Well, does that mean you were in a raid on streamer a and you moved it to streamer B Well, that doesn't seem like something everybody would want so I must not understand what that means Well, and now well, you know as a as a new person to twitch as well and Roger and Lynn If either of you want to school me on this, please do but I believe the idea is to if you're going to Finish up a stream and you've got folks who are actively watching, you know, and you can sort of Kick it over to somebody else kind of almost like paint it forward. Like here's my community now. Oh So the idea is that Right after in a raid say like in your say a wow game you go on a raid Everyone's watching because a bunch of people are participating. It has an end to it So instead of having everyone's like, oh, that was fun. I'm just gonna click off You can kind of keep the show going with another person So it's like watching one football game and and the bride catcher says hey, there's another one in progress So we're gonna kick it over here. Yeah, so so there's continuous You know action the activity for the audience But in this way instead of letting the fires the embers go down You can kind of keep it going by round robbing round robbing Attention Somewhere else. I think it's really cool. I mean what's interesting is that twitch is really putting a lot of effort into not just maintaining their existing feature set as well as their their users the streamers creators but also actively trying to to Engage as well as help them build their audience something that a lot of People who are on twitch kind of complain that YouTube isn't really doing enough of For for them over there. And so I mean this is this is this could be very significant Not necessarily these sets of features But the attention that twitch is putting back into the system to to ensure that it can be a premier destination Not just for gaming because as we know between Scott Johnson and just rub Yeah, there's a plenty of other things a plenty of other content that goes Via twitch, although it's mostly known for gaming But it is it is a positive sign at least for the creators Yeah, that I asked this sounds really cool Yeah, not just never live for gaming anymore Although you were you were right that that's how it started for sure and also anything that allows a partner or affiliate to earn Revenue do digital items, whatever they may be, you know, that always sounds attractive to people too because it's like hey You're putting all your effort into this. Let's get something back Yeah. All right, Friday story for you Allison I chose this especially yeah, cuz I know Music billboards hot 100 chart and billboard 200 charts. So that's Singles and albums respectively. They are a change in guys both charts will start waiting songs weighing songs plays Song plays made on paid subscription streaming services More highly than plays made on pure ad-supported services meaning free this starts in 2018 So paid subscriptions like Apple music will receive a greater emphasis in billboard chart calculations Although those calculations are also going to cover paid subscription tiers of hybrid services That would be a Spotify or a SoundCloud for the hot 100 list billboard says that there will be now Multiple weighted tiers of streaming plays paid subscription at the top Then you have ad supported streams and then programmed streams and besides streaming radio airplay and digital song sales Are still going to be accounted for Interesting. What's your logic? Well, here's what I think what makes sense to me is that the logic is if you are Paying for a service. So let's say Apple music, right? You've got to pay for it And there's a song that keeps being played. It's almost as if that song is more popular Because you had to plunk down money to play it over and over Then if you were using some ad-supported platform where maybe you you like the song But you don't necessarily care about the song so much to sign up for a music subscription. It's not Very it's kind of fuzzy logic, but I feel like I see where they're going here They're they're saying that if you're paying for music you care about music Well, and you know songs that you're listening to more control it more right and something like Apple music You're saying I would like to listen to Simon and Garfunkel today Whereas if it's streaming ad-based sometimes it's not as much in your control Well, you know Apple music has a streaming, you know, it's just most of the Apple music All I use it for is it streaming component? Okay, but you just can't you can't play a bunch of stuff for free Whereas in you know something like SoundCloud you could so I guess yeah I guess the idea is Billboard saying okay, well for this in the hot 100 chart I mean it's been around forever and a lot of people in the music industry pay a lot of attention. What's number one? What's number five hot 100 is is people people definitely pay attention. So Perhaps billboard feels that some real trends and real popularity will be reflected By by these new weighted rules. I don't know. I mean, they're not gonna start until next year So I guess it remains to be seen But that's actually pretty interesting it seems like a a sign also of the seriousness of Distreaming thing really is here to stay and it's not destroying the industry in any way. Oh man I love the streaming industry. I mean, I don't want it to destroy Any artist livelihood, but it sure works for me, but it's you know, it's almost like I guess you could liken it to the Idea that Nielsen is going to be paying more attention to numbers coming from Netflix Yeah, yeah, other than just you know the traditional way that Nielsen had had run before because the times have changed and they're Everyone's changing along with them All right to get all these tech headlines each day in about five minutes Rotating hosts I do them on Wednesdays and Tom and and rich and and and friends They're fun. Anyway subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com, but also enjoy the show as well All right Allison, are you ready to talk about harassment on Twitter? Yeah, let's have some fun Chewy just a little light reading so the company I published a calendar of planned changes to its safety and enforcement rules This is actually something that leaked out last week an internal memo went around in Twitter basically that the these changes were we're going to come and Jack Dorsey of course Twitter CEO Ended up tweeting. Listen, we're just gonna share our internal safety work streams and shipping calendar because You know, even though this is sort of uncomfortable. It's a work in progress It's the right thing to do we believe in showing our thinking and work in real time will help build trust Twitter obviously has a trust problem for a lot of users and has been accused of Not coming to the aid of people who have have reported harassment in the past You know bought accounts Abusive accounts etc. So some of the changes that will be made in the start October 27th So a week from today will be immediate suspensions for reported sharing of non-consensual nude images things like instituted and improved appeals process for suspensions So Twitter's trying to make the appeals process less of a headache for people who engage Some other plan changes include banning abusive display names So, you know, we we've all seen those where you go like, oh, why is that? That's you know, it's not the handle itself the Twitter handle itself But it's the the person's name which a lot of people change often Improved predictive reporting on likely abusive accounts and then banning hateful imagery in profile pictures Allison what's what's what's your Twitter experience been like? Is this something that you feel is really well I don't think anybody would say it's not necessary But is this something that you feel will change your Twitter experience? I've been Shockingly lucky and I don't want to invite anything bad to happen that I only had one bad experience one time where somebody Essentially doxed me, but it was that was a very very odd Creepy situation, but it was a one-off, you know It didn't didn't cause a big thing But I was pleased to hear Brianna you who talking she she was attacked quite viciously and famously during Gamergate She was on Twitter last week I think it was and she said that actually twitch Twitter should be given credit for the work They have done she said that the the hate bots are way down. So they have taken a good step transparency in this I think is is really cool, but it's such a weird Calendar to look at is saying well next week. We're taking on hate symbols and imagery in the week after we're gonna do nudity You know, it's just like picturing that in a calendar just sounds really really odd And I I want to say that I am just really glad it's not my job to try to figure out how to do this This is like I mean even like when they were talking about some of the the pornographic content They said so they are not actually I mean porn is apparently okay on Twitter Which I didn't actually I hadn't actually thought about that and no judging or anything But it was just interesting that they said most exact quote They said while we recognize there's an entire genre of pornography dedicated to this type of content and and they were This was when they were talking about Unconsensual nude photos and how you figure out which ones are the Under non consensual I guess is right word. How do you figure that out? How do you tell which ones are the ones somebody let you do and somebody didn't want you didn't want them done? And they were very specific to say you don't have to report it for it to get banned Right, right. Yeah, the company basically says Listen, we're gonna err on the side of caution here because if it ends up being something where there's a you know, it's it's There's a victim here We would prefer to take something down That that you know, nobody actually would be complaining about rather than leave something up and Arring on the side of protecting, you know a victim. So sure sure and I think that that's yeah, exactly It's it's that's I understand that Twitter Twitter has a huge incentive in keeping numbers up and wanting people to stay engaged and even crappy people Or people that other people think are crappy that sort of thing. So I get it. I get why you can't just be like, okay Well, we're just gonna you know Ban all the accounts that that are annoying and we'll just start over because you know the whole thing would implode I also agree with you that It's a it's kind of funny to be tackling, you know, these these internet troll situations week by week But Twitter's also been accused of just sort of not doing anything for so long That I think that this at least shows real initiative and kind of that checklist of like, okay Well, if you have that many problems sure go one by one little little grocery list here and let's let's make the experience better It's not gonna happen, you know October 27th when this starts, but we've got a plan I like the way so there's a wired article that that identifies all of it and and breaks it down And it's it's cool because they say they start with unwanted sexual advances Which I think is one of the first ones they're doing and it says current approach and they have a quote about what they're doing And then this is their updated approach and then they're adding the new things They're doing like you said hate symbols and imagery and and violent groups. These are new ones So now here's their new policy what they're trying to do but again back to I'm glad this isn't my job The violent group section says at a high level We will take enforcement actions against organizations that use slash have historically use violence as a mean to advance their causes So all governments that have armies Right, I mean immediately you can come up with the examples that that change the rule, you know, sure. Yes. Yes I think yes, there there are many exceptions to yeah, but people in various positions of power Don't always seem to be treated the same way on Twitter and that has been a point of contention for many Twitter users But we will you know, we'll be following the progress and and and we'll see how things change I'm also intrigued by the double standard on some of this. You remember when the guy Killed the the old man walking down the street on Facebook. I Heard about it. Yes. Okay, so Twitter or Facebook got all this Garbage for not taking it down quickly, right? That was the big story. I saw that video 25 times on the news You can say yeah, it's horrible that Facebook didn't take this video down Look and it was I couldn't get away from it They kept showing it to me over and over and over again as they talked about how awful Facebook was that they didn't take it down I'm not a big Facebook defender or anything, but I was like no, sorry NBC evening news. You're kind of Should stop playing it Yeah, yes. Well, that's I said new new mediums But there are the old mediums that didn't necessarily work that great. Okay, but well, there's this is obviously a big topic We will revisit it soon. We didn't solve it all today. We didn't solve it all today. I mean, we got pretty close though Thanks, that I couldn't have done it without Jeff. Thanks to all who participate in our subreddits We get a lot of our stories from our subreddit. It's one of my favorite places to get daily dick headlines Submit submit stories and vote on them at Daily Tech news show dat Daily tech news show reddit.com one of these days I'm going to get that right and facebook.com groups Slash Daily Tech news show the facebook.com group is actually very lively and I have been in there quite a bit recently All right, let's get to some messages of the day You can write us at feedback at Daily Tech news show comm first one comes from TJ Asher He's associate producer from from patreon for DTNS. Thank you for that TJ Regarding Apple watch and standing reminders Tom has mentioned that as he stands doing the show recently His watch reminds him to stand. He's like, what's up with that? I'm standing already TJ says Apple watch is looking for an arm position where you have your arm down at your side Basically perpendicular to the ground for roughly 90 continuous seconds within an hour If it doesn't detect that position for the time period in an hour, you're prompted even if you're standing has nothing to do with Altitude it's only the orientation of the watch Which is why you're asked upon which wrist you wear the watch and which way the digital crown faces If the watch detects a lot of arm movement in the hour It's not going to prompt you to stand even if you should finally which version provides Tom more profit for his books Kindle or paperback I want to buy the new one But I want to support as much profit as possible We will get you that answer when Tom comes back because I don't want to give you the wrong answer TJ But that I live the answer. Well, okay. Give it a go books.com All right. I think that's probably the answer. Well, there you go. Yeah, so Tom if we're wrong, please, you know You should have showed up Yeah, if we're wrong, well, that's what happens when you leave we make stuff up. It was completely off the rails Thanks, TJ. That's really good information about the Apple watch and makes sense Yeah, it does explain why if you're driving and you get the notification you can fling your wrist around a bunch and get credit for it So I'm doing that right now Well, it's here next letter. I love this letter. Hello, Sarah Tom and team and team I was listening to yesterday's episode about Netflix creating some merch Justin mentioned that they have your email or your email and all your info which is true But they have you sitting in front of the TV with a remote in your hand They only need to offer you the stranger things t-shirt on the menu with a click here to buy and that's it I will be buying my t-shirt. It will charge to my brother and deliver to his house. That's all another issue Yeah, I mean if that's so true, you know because Justin was saying yeah, they've got your email They'll you know send you email alerts and I was like they're gonna put a merch pre-roll before original shows But maybe we were both a little off because yeah, Netflix can just program that Experience itself doesn't even need to be a pre-roll or maybe they do both who knows what I want big bang theory I want I want a Sheldon shirts. There should be a button for that Well, there's this green flash shirt. I want that one, you know, you ought to be able to just push that button I think Yaniv's onto something here. I do too Yaniv. You're yeah You're that it makes perfect sense. I don't know if I want that Perhaps Netflix would be kind enough to say hide this merch button on your home screen But I doubt it that would be that would be too generous Hey, let's check in with Len Peralta who has been very quiet during this episode But I know it's for a good reason because you've got you've got drawing that you've been doing I have been doing some drawing, you know in a previous life I used to be an in advertising and I think that if Twitter is looking for an advertising person I might be that person here today's drawing is a is sort of a safety poster done for Twitter, which is it's actually There's no snark here at all. It's just sort of you know using Twitter should be a tweet Not a trick is what it says and they're doing their part to shut the door on online harassment bullying and mean people It's a little Twitter bird Holding back some pretty unsavory characters from the door Yeah, I mean, I don't want to be clubbed with no You don't want the you don't want the the you know the alt-right folks over there or anything like that Yeah, so the creepy guy There's a great stuff under his nails. What is exactly that or even the people who dox you You don't want that stuff. So this is consider this a public service announcement for For Twitter Twitter if you'd like me as your as your person to do your marketing. Sure. I'm ready for it So, yeah, you you can pick this up in my online store lennprogstore.com as well I just want to plug do a quick plug. Of course, I'm doing the DTS last Jedi poster Featuring the art prod group Tom Roger and of course Sarah all In a last Jedi mashup poster and I'm selling the naming rights There are 30 slots available We're halfway through if anybody else wants to get on that help purchase a something from my online store and And help me make that That poster because I can't print it if I don't sell them all so it's it's it's It's so good and it's so funny because Len was like, yes, Sarah You know, you're this is gonna be your position, you know, and he kept having to remind me and I kept going like Oh, this is gonna be so hard and the Like how am I to do it look good? And he just made me look Sure that I actually said you very it's not it's not that hard to make you look good Sarah. So, well, I'll go on But it is a really cool poster and you guys should check it out if it is it is really cool I'm very honored to be part of it. Thank you Len for being here as you are every Friday And thank you to Alice and Sheridan for being here as well. You were such a great co-host. We've really I think we I think we held on the fort. Okay. I think we managed to pull it off even without time supervision So so that's good the girls take over. It's okay. It's okay. Yeah. Yeah, you know Hey, you know, one of us is a podcast host and the other one worked in the aerospace industry for 35 I'm a podcast host, you know, well that will both of us are so there's just there's overlapping that respect Got it all covered Absolutely, where can people find out more about what you're up to you? Well, the best place is pod feet calm and that's where you see all the pod feet podcast get as much alliteration as I can in there I do quite a few tech podcasts actually they seem to spawn all amongst themselves I don't know how it happens, but there's a whole bunch of them up there, but I'll tech all the time All right. All right, cool. 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See you then and talk to you then I Really have to get used to that So I never heard any music, but I heard it at the top of the show, but not I did Did Roger expire in some way? Did you what what happened we finished we didn't hear the music you didn't hear the music. I was playing it Top of the show we could but not I did I did her at the show. Yeah. Yeah It probably came in too low because it's trying to bring it under Well, I heard I mean it was it was up full and then because I was sort of like ooh, when's my low When's my low cue, you know, and I hit it and I hit it shortly. I actually hit it too That's why I brought it down with it. I should have brought it up. I Didn't hear it either. No, that was fine. Okay now paste it out the pastin Yeah, I think I think we messed up the other two. I mean if it wasn't just me But I love both those posters Len me to the Nazi symbol with the Creeper the creepers that bet I mean that how do you draw creepy you drew creepy? Oh, yes It's well, of course. It's sort of a mad magazine sort of creeper there. I mean is he a standing character? Look, oh, like the grief line. How did you think of that? That's well because he's creepy. I love people You know, it's the creepiest people have slimy hands Oh, that's that's the name of my next book It's like it's sort of like it like a kid's book, you know, like stranger danger If I play this yeah, yes, that's love So I had it down here if I play this No, but a window. It's just hot in here Do you hear that at all? Yeah, I hear that Because that's where it was We definitely didn't hear any music. I just I just kept going because I you know, I didn't know if So do you hear this you hear this? Yes, but it's very low. It's really low Man, I'll fix it in post. There you go. Mm-hmm. Ah peanut oil Peanut oil yes I hope you didn't hear my dog snoring. I started throwing things I did not hear but I wouldn't have been upset with her because a Friday nap cannot be All right, all right show titles peanut oil Top is show without merit. You know what we get this one every time merit's out Tom is out Yeah, we'll see That's the Mentioned the last time that we made this joke that it's just that's just what we do ritual, right? No, I understand that Sarah and Allison solve Twitter Like a little better than that. It was Twitter's to-do list solve hate It's not going up real high, but I thought that was really clever There's hashtag hell portal hashtag portal to hell that's a famous No, no from Justin. Yeah anytime you talk about People and moderate it moderation There it is over to new twitch features Twitter's to-do list solve hate. That's what I really like. Why is it that I have such a hard time seeing this poll? Go to show but you can't see it. Oh Actually have to go to show. Okay. Yeah, you have to go. I thought it showed up at the top of chat realm Oh, no, it goes to a mind. Got it show about that chat realm net Do I want to leave chat realm? No, I want to stay I want a new tab No, it's not Robbie I Just oh, okay. Oh, I do it in a client. That's why Cantrus Twitter paid a peer pressure Twitter's grocery list a more wholesome Twitter the gals takeover X marks the spot pow to pow payments usually like Well, it sounds like We're sticking with the Twitter theme. I like I'm glad this isn't my job, but it's probably not descriptive enough What the conversation was But I am also glad I like peanut oil. They were We're on their game today, man. There's a lot. Who are the four of you who think the show should be called peanut oil? Yourself I was Even remember that no, I said it right after the show and yeah, it was sort of like an It was like an X it was Roger's version of an expletive. That's how I see an expletive without Crawling up there, man, it's got five right now I Started it or at least voted for it with with you know a show without merit lovingly tossed out But lovingly I I would I like Twitter's to do list solve hate I like that a lot. I don't know if that you know, do we do we find it too? Hey, no, that's actually really good. I like yeah, all right. Good. Well peanut oil. I'm sorry Okay, I'm voting for peanut oil just It's another ritual they just started probably right Oh from Walt says I'm glad this isn't my job also works for Tom not being here Well, well, I don't get it that except for you it is Well, you know it is now, but I Think I think Tom is glad that it's his job, but maybe I'm not understanding the joke Like for us. Oh, oh, oh like oh, we're glad that our job to do this every day Well, yeah, you know the duties are where we're sharing duties. It's cool There's a there's a title right there Um All right, well, we got a title I'm gonna it's gonna take me a little bit longer today to paste in and edit in the the end music audio Yes, there's also the mid music too. So I know there's that one After the news. Yeah real. Yeah, I played it. You didn't air it either. No, not that. No, man. Nope. Sorry. I Hate you pause she went Yeah, no, I played it right then so that's why I thought she paused because she heard the music No, I should have gone in I should have done I'm gonna stop the podcast so I can work on our broadcast so I can work on that Thank you all for watching the show Tom is back Monday with Veronica and of course Sarah Lane and Roger Chang and me and Len will be here next Friday. We'll be here next Friday. All right, and thanks again, Allison You were awesome. Yay. Thanks for having me think I'm glad you threw in a music thing for me that that made me giggle