 on September 23rd and for another select board meeting in the town of Rochester. And we've posted this agenda in three places, correct? And on the website. And emailed to interested parties. So we're gonna move forward with this legally warned meeting. And before we start, does anyone have any additions to the agenda that they'd like to make? Mason? Yeah, I'd like to speak later about having a special meeting in mid-November. And? And I just want to give an update on Skate Space. Okay. Thank you. Maybe they want to add something. Hey Beth, you're already on here so you don't need to add anything to it. All right, okay. So I'd like to start first with the minutes from the last meeting of September 9th. Do you guys have any corrections for those? Nope. Don't move while you weren't here, Tom. So I guess you wouldn't have corrections. So I had moved to approve those. A second, please. All in favor? All right, all righty. And we've got Beth, you were just in time. What did you want to talk about? So, I'll share with the co-manager of the farmers market and we realize that the grass is in pre-ban shape on that side of the park. So we would like to volunteer to receive it in the fall. Well, absolutely. But yeah, it's definitely going bad. And what do you think about the idea of maybe next year rotating it along the Bethamon roadside, still with having ribbons and later-tracking? Honestly, I don't think that the issue with that grass is because of us. I think this is my opinion, but what happened is the summer before last, we had this really huge end-of-the-market rainstorm and the storm drain was blocked and the market filled up literally, I don't know how to exaggerate, but our ankles were covered with water and I think it washed some of the topsoil away and so now the grass just is unable to grow. Whereas because the places where it's in the sun, the grass is fine. Right. It needs a particular, who seeded it in the spring? Someone seeded it and part of it in the spring, but even the areas where we don't touch where he seeded it, it didn't grow most likely because it needs a specific shade tolerant. Well, that's what I was wondering because it's really in under those trees there. Right, so I think shade tolerant and maybe looking at the farms can put a little layer of just something to do it. I want to do it the weekend. The last part of the project is the 11th. That's the 11th of October. The last year it snowed the next week. Well, I'll explain if we do it in the fall, it'll get it kind of a head start in the spring. If it comes up. Yeah, that's not the best. You start switching over to winter rye. It's not the best time to plant grass. Correct. But do, I still think if we, we couldn't, it wouldn't have set this spring because the spring was so late by the time Marcus started it. You didn't have time, right? So I personally think it would be better to take our chances and do it in the fall. I don't want to hurt. Yeah, no, grass seed is not that expensive. It's not a big deal. It won't hurt. It's just don't expect anything glorious to be out this time of year. But grass seed is not that expensive and we have volunteers who help us with it. So we could have to do that. So how awkward would that be to juggle maybe not all the way on Bethel Mountain Road, but at least give a break to some of those areas that are most really buried up? For foot traffic, even it would be fairly impossible to have people, because as of now, we have those crosswalks and everything that kind of come right to them. Right to it. And there's a sidewalk right along there. There's a sidewalk right there. So especially like with kids and everything, there's that easy access. And there is that parking strip right there. No, I understand. It would be... What about experiment, maybe with moving them just back on the other side of that last row of trees, but then still it'd be, I think most of the real shoeboxes where people are standing at their booths and the people are coming and they're milling around. If there's, it's worth experimenting with. But I still think that if we can get it to grow, because it didn't used to be like that. And the places where the vendors are, that's more in the sun, it doesn't get destroyed. Yeah, the grass just is fine then. So like in the, and we have, I mean, putting down, it's all those vendors at the very end where they park their tents, I mean, and they're there every week and the grass is fine. It's just in that middle spot where there's no sun. No sun. Mushrooms grow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No sun. Well, I appreciate you guys coming here and broaching the topic with us, instead of us coming to come to you. Because it was something that was brought up a little earlier in the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we put that on it in the hall. Yeah. And I'm gonna wait for it to reach after it, so we can change that for most of it. Well, there's no question. We've got to have like real a week of... There's no question that everyone is happy to have the farmer's market there. No, thanks. And it's not, you know, it's not the only thing that disturbs the grass a little bit. So yeah, I'm hoping for a long fall. So yeah, I'd plant them. Plant it. It's farmer's market. They should be able to grow grass, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, then you're not asking for any funding to do that, right? Yeah. Yeah, okay. No. No. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Mason, you're on to, would you like to step in with the rest of the meeting and talk about the special meeting you'd like to request? Yeah. I was thinking our next select board meeting, we can be on the agenda because that's the process here. So I'd be on the agenda to talk about having a special meeting in November, mid-November. And what I'm interested in that topic being is a climate emergency declaration from our town, pretty much, is what I was interested in. And the need to plant more grass, right? Yeah. Could be. Yeah. All right, so it's a request to put on the next meeting's agenda. Request for a special town meeting, are you asking, just a town meeting here? Yeah. Mid-November? And mid-November. And not, that's something that could be warned for the beginning of the next select board meeting. Might have more people in there. We can have a special meeting then. Doesn't have to be a whole, another meeting on top of our schedule. How's this, I'm just looking at process, Patty, just looking at what we... Well, we only need in order to have a special meeting. You don't, you don't. There's no special requirements for how often, you still have the three days or a special meeting's only 24 hours. So it can piggyback onto a select board meeting is what June's asking. Yeah. Do you have... I would like to space it out so that the voters have an opportunity to understand the potentials of it because it's a voter issue. Do you, would you like the time of this meeting to piggyback onto a regular select board meeting? I was feeling the next select board meeting. Yeah. It's gonna be on the agenda and we can hash it out. Then we can discuss it out. Okay. You know. You guys, opportunity to actually, you might want to Google a little what other communities are doing on this subject. We can also ask Rachel. Yeah, we actually, there's a core group in that Vermont room. There's a special team that focuses on climate. So they cover everything from climate finance to climate, all sorts of issues. So land management, land use, all that. So I could reach out to them and see if they have someone on the team to come and to be able to answer any questions. I think the vote... I've asked them in advance already. That was one of the topics. For me, I feel like we have 800 plus voters in this community. This is their subject. Let them, you know, I don't know if we have to really educate anybody anymore on, you know, it's either, you know, where do they want to go with this? I'm happy to request an expert to be here. If you'd like that, I'm happy to be here. That could be part of the discussion next like board meeting. Sounds good. All right. Great. It's a plan. And Rachel, that comes to you about update about skate space. All right, okay, really quick. Over the weekend, Friday and Saturday, full days, we had the total of six volunteers who helped, including myself and my partner Rich, who's in from Vietnam. And so Dean Norm Christiansen, Peggy and Dan McKinley, myself and Richard Kitchener. We laid stone foundations. We shifted back the wreck shed, emptied it first, of course. Shipped it back. We did a primer on, I think, a three quarters of the wall. We're gonna have the roof replaced, hopefully with some more volunteers. And then we're looking to work with some local folks who have a big rig that we could move one of the baseball dugouts over to the second new foundation that we laid. The stone, which by the way, came from Sherilyn Ray, Harvey. Two cans of paint and one can of primer came from Bethel Mills in Hancock. And very generously, the wreck committee from our town gave us a certain amount of money. I don't have those numbers because Norm and Dean worked that out amongst themselves. But there was, I guess, you can call them, if you want them. Yeah, I have an article already. I talked to them. Oh, good. Okay, now all those details are in there because Norm said he didn't know I'm gonna take it. Be happy to do a news release. When he told me, he told me he'd do an update when they finished with the movie. Yeah, that's cool. We'll be in the dugout. Yeah, so that's the next big step. We're gonna, if, forgive me, I don't know if they've approved that with the school. I don't know who actually owns that dugout, but those guys are working it out. They're working on that. So anyway, so my norm totally. My update is the plan is new roof on that shed and then paint, including primer and paint on the doors and then move the dugout. And again, forgive me, I don't know who owns the dugout, but I don't know if it's public property or not, but the plan is to shift it over. Well, those were made, they were a senior project, correct? Yes. Students, so that would. So it's owned by the school? It's owned by the school, for example. Yeah, so I'm not part of this discussion, so I'm just letting you know what happened in the weekend. No, that's been brought up before that idea, so it's, it's, it's, It's an important thing. It's an important thing. Yeah. Okay, then. I think so. I'm not really sure. I'm not headed that project. I'm just letting you know, we rolled up the sleeves, did some basic health degrees. Great. Okay. Cool. So roof and movement, and then we did like new concept, well, it's the same conduit, but we shifted it over, so it goes between the two, forming and the wreck shed. So it's the same conduit, we just moved it. That's all safety doubt, so the kids, nothing will happen to the kids. It's, it's, but we have to, we have to create another conduit to the main pole. And again, we donate working on that. Okay. Yeah. It's professional. All right, good. Yeah. Good. So that's, All right. Great. Thank you. Sure. Thank you. We have, Jones not here tonight, but Pat, do you want to, We have her notes. Give us her update. Yeah. I'll do my best. There was a meeting this morning. There's a meeting every morning about the Bethel Mountain Lower Site 1 project. Every Monday. Every Monday morning. Yeah. Monday morning. So this is updated as of this morning. All slope work, including outfalls and head walls, you know, below, and where the culverts go, and there's 20 culverts there, are completed. All the concrete head walls are poured and they're, they're all ready to go. The concrete people are moving out. Box cutting has started. That is where they take the grade of the road right down to an engineered grade where it should be. And then they're gonna start rebuilding the road back up. So the asphalt in some spots is gone, but you're starting to see the grade of the road. They're finishing up the lower 800 feet of ditching at the bottom of the hill, continuing this week with more box cutting, stone lining the ditches, primarily on the upper side of the hill, or the lower side is all done. Whitcomb will be the paver. They start with reclaiming, so they'll be coming and digging up the rest of the current pavement, and it'll be mashed up, and we'll be able to go back down into the base. So that starts on Thursday. That's, you know, definitely a movement towards the healing factor. We're now rebuilding, not disrupting. Paving may start late next week, and it'll probably start around October 3rd and 4th. It was slated for 1st, 2nd, but it's gonna be the 3rd, 4th. And, you know, once they get going on that section, it'll be done in just a couple of days. We are still on schedule for the October 11th completion date. We are hoping the last contractor to show up is the contractor that paints the lines on the road. So we're down to debating, you know, can we get them here on time? Discussion taking place, town's request for more. Cooter had some concerns about some of the trees on the upper part of the hill. So this morning we had some discussion about who would be responsible for taking down some of those trees. Are they or are they not in the right away? And for the time being, you can have a conversation with Cody about a few that looked to be necessary, but for the most part, there's no place to really begin or stop there. So there are a few that are obvious that Cody will work with you to take down. Did you say that was in the upper part? On the uphill side. There's been cut back quite a bit. So if I said you're discussing who would be responsible for trees that might need removal on the upper side. Right, depending on, you know, each one has to be within the right of way within the designated area of construction. Homeowner permissions are pretty much all in the hands of all the homeowners, the final provisions for easements. And we are hoping to have that all back as soon as possible. And now we move up to site two, which is from the intersection up to the top of the mountain. Site two is a different company, J Hutchins, and they started that today. If you have been over the mountain and you've seen what has been done on the Bethel side, that's what's going to happen on this side as well. There'll be squares with new pavement where there were problems. That is slated to be done also by October 11th. And we will have flaggers. So the road will never be closed or anything like that, but it will be delayed when you'll have flaggers and we've all been places where the flaggers have been. There are three culverts on that road that it's been recommended that they be replaced. Probably not going to happen this year, but we've found different ways to get funding to make those happen. Primarily next year, there's a tiny possibility one too may happen this year, but we'll see. If all the chips fall into place. One needs to go from a 36 inch to a 48 inch four foot culvert, so it's being culvert. And hopefully when they dig that up, they don't find ledge because then they have to get another plan. So there's a lot of little irons in the fire there. And one of them is to pass the board if they would like cricket to come in on looking at the design of the culverts. We have still have a $45,000 class two road rate grant that we had gotten to do a study and engineering study of Bethel Mountain Road. And V-Trans has allowed us to use that money elsewhere. So we may use it on the upper part of Bethel Mountain Road to pay for one of these three culverts. And that is pending the select board approval. So that is about it. FEMA projects, Joan, Kudor and Julie with also some involvement of Becky are working their way through all the extensive data for FEMA they've been meeting every other week with the FEMA rep has been assigned to the town. And sites that have been completed will be visited by other FEMA staff to verify the work done and the cost bids for completing other sites using outside contractors gradually getting done. So the FEMA projects here, there and everywhere are still in process. And that is it. I like the thing that's all good news. Yeah. The folks groups they're gonna be repaired. That's breaking up very good. I don't know that it's gonna be repaired with this emergency money. There was a sideline that was mentioned at one time way back when that perhaps it could be. So we'll see with VTrans if we can slip it in. It depends on how far over budget we are. Count in the alley. We're all about time and VTrans is all about the money. So. So I don't have any problems with going ahead and ask them to repurpose that 45,000 grant to attack that covert up there. Yeah, it's hitting the same road. Just a different section. Yeah, right. Actually it's gonna be the two smaller culverts. Two smaller one, not the big one. It'll be a structures grant for the larger culvert next year. So we can apply this. Right, under better back roads or something. Right, yeah. So we can apply this study money to the two smaller ones. So Hutchins is gonna give us a price on replacing the other two smaller cross culverts. Are they thinking they can do it by October 11th? They don't need to because that's a separate pot of money. It wasn't gonna happen. Actually those don't have to be done by October. They don't, yeah. True. Other money. The cross culverts because it's an event. So they might have to go back and do those, but because it's not under money, it doesn't have to be done by November. Correct. True. It's going to be, is it possible? I mean, it's likely that it would be done at least before snow, hopefully, right? That's the goal, yeah. Okay. No. Never know. Never know, yeah. Right. Well, thank you for reading that. And thank you, Joan, for presenting it. The segue is right into, do you have anything else to add in terms of the highway and the world? That's really the big story, isn't it? Yes. Excuse me. What, what? The Bethamon Road is the big story to talk about. Oh, okay. Yeah. Bane somewhere. The big paint. You've been in Bingo this week? Well, so it's, yeah, are you working on the Bingo little project out there? We're down at the Bingo, well, not on the road relocation. And the Forest Service is not giving us a, go ahead just yet. Not yet. But we're working up there on a ditching grant. And when we get to that spot, we're gonna have to do something with their permission or not. It may not be as extensive to make it wide enough so we can plow it and be safe this winter. But we're just gonna do it over there. And I told Joan that today and she was in a contact before our service and pushed them a little harder. Because my estimator's been turned into a pumpkin and go away pretty soon. So you've got a debris blower, but we haven't tried to do that. Mason, you had a question? Yes, with the ditching grant. Does that include conservation of winter rye and straw that they put down in the soils? It's being seeded as we go. Yes. Cool. It's being seeded as we go. Cool. It's gonna be stoned from homers up to the bridge, basically. All right. Yep. Maybe that'll be close from now. What time? Probably nine till when we get it over. Thank you. Terry, have you got anything for us tonight? No, we picked sleep down in Kennedy Drive last week. Some problems in my little injector pump, but hopefully I'll have the practice tomorrow. It's not working properly. Yep. You talking about the injection pump at the pump station? Yeah. So how are you putting soda ash into the system? Not very good. All three places in the way. Are you checking the pH values though? Yeah, it's like 68 to seven. And I checked it in the system and it's still up around 74 or 76. I'm not gonna recheck it. And you're expecting parts tomorrow to get it running? Yeah. Yeah, so. I tried to top one of it up and it helped it some but it's still not putting enough in. Yeah, it's the body's cracked and it's really, you know. Yeah. Great, Joel, you had a question about that? Yeah, I am on the, Terry, I'm on the Common Lands Committee up at Great Hall. Yep. And I was just wondering, do you have an update on the fire hydrant down in the lake? No, we're going up tomorrow night and see if we can figure out what's going on. The guys I sent out there couldn't figure it out. So we got to take the truck back up and see if we can figure it out. It's not, I don't know. They thought that it would break and fight but it's not a broken fight because if it was, we'd add water coming out of the tank. Exactly. So I'll go up with them. They were getting a lot of air out of it. We're still getting water or something but he's got a lot of air. Okay. All right, got the, wow, are we going to have like the shortest meeting in months tonight? Yeah, after two hours something we had left. No, no time, it sounds. No library. Nobody's here from the library. Oh yes, you are. Yeah, any update from the library? Well, there are things around the Baltimore again but they're coming up on Thursday, Tom Pereira will be at the library speaking about the survival and the Antarctic and why life there will shock in terms of exposition at 10 30 in the morning. In the morning. We have an old business. We have this invested Joel missing book that seems to pop up in the agenda and I'm prepared to call that a moot issue and it's, I don't think it needs to be on this agenda. Are you prepared to say that the books of loss that can't be found? I'm saying that they're not, they don't seem to have been found. It's not that we won't let you know if they show up. The way that Tom's dragging their feet on this issue it almost seems like they're afraid of jeopardizing the $50,000 they've got invested in the lawsuit. Now there might be information in those books that could sell this one way or another. I'd like to find out the facts myself. How is the town jeopardizing this? I don't understand that. How are we jeopardizing it? Why not looking for the books? Wait a minute, it doesn't make any sense. Maybe. We've been looking for the book for a month. Really? Yes. Well, I was in here last week and asked nobody to look. Well, how many times do you expect somebody to look? Has anybody looked this last time? No, but how many times do you look in the same spot? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got an information request then. I'd like to see some of those books. Nope. You're refusing me? I'm saying it's like Dave Doon just said, it's a moot point. No, it's not. Do you know what the, did you ever listen to Einstein's definition of insanity? You just stated it. I didn't come here to get insulted. I'm sorry, but you're insulting us. Well, why can't we even attempt to look for it? We have attempted for a month. Have at it, have a ball. I had a discussion with Tony Vizlore after the last meeting. She's been over here trying to find the book that she saw when she was in here two years ago. That's excellent. And she can't find that, so all that one's missing. And nobody seems to give a rat's ass. People have looked. People have looked, people have looked. Pod through there, it's like, it's not like people haven't looked. You just told us that Tony Deloria was in there looking. I mean, he seems to be the last one that has seen this book. Who's swelling went through the fall? Right. And found that 30 years and those are gone. Right? He's your appointed authority on the book. He says 30 years are gone. Right. He says the only place they could be is down in the basement. And they are not. And they are not. So then they're gone and they can't be found. They have not been found. They have not been found. But we're not gonna look for them anymore. We didn't say that. We didn't say that. You did. No, you did. No, I didn't. You said it's a book. Why? Putting it up. We're not gonna look in this. We look for them in a month. We're not gonna look at the same places over and over again. Nobody's looked downstairs. I don't know if that's true. That's not true. I don't think that's true. I think that before Joanne left. Yeah, Joanne's, yeah. She spent a lot of time. Yeah. They'd have to go every year and pull documents that can be. They moved. Well, I've just gone by what Bruce said his life. There's 30 years missing. And the only place they could be is in that room or possibly mislabeled and a book that's in the vault. That's my thought. It's perhaps mislabeled in the book that was in the vault, but it's... It's yet to be found. It's not where it could be. It's unfortunate. That's it. But you're... What do you expect? I mean, what else do you want us to do? What do you want us to do? You're retired, right? You're retired. You have the time to go in there and dig through there. Go for it, you know? Yeah. I mean, I work seven days a week and then I'm here at this meeting and it's over and over at the same request. So yeah. I've got stuff to do. Yeah. So you know, it's... You want the job? You got it. Here I am. Well, my job is not actually researching documents for you is to conduct meetings and conduct the business of the town. The books are the purview of the town clerk, you know? So it's just getting to be a little harassing, you know? So, you know, it's... Harassing? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. It is. It is. How's that? Well, look at Orca Media and watch one of the films and look at yourself a little bit. Yeah. You know? Not harassing anybody. I'm just asking what's being done to find the book. That's all. Okay. As things progress and people dig and look, there's definitely, it's out there that, whoa, there's the book, you know? I mean, it's like, whoa, there's the book, you know? I mean, if it shows up in the crack somewhere or says someone put it, I, you know, if Mason's lawyer seems to be the only person who has seen it, ask her where it is, you know? I don't know. Are you insinuating she took it or something? I'm just telling you what I know. Oh, you're insinuating we took it? Yeah. No, I'm not saying you took it. I'm saying you're not looking for it. Okay, but we're going with ourselves. We have looked for it. No, you're wrong. We have looked for it for months and months. All right, you're wrong. The same place is over and over again. This is ridiculous. That's why it is. Oh, it's a not. Yes, it is. I think it's ridiculous. Well, I disagree. Okay. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Are you willing to go downstairs? If I get some time, I'll look. There you go. Mason, you have something. And then we'll ask you. Can we also go on? Ask you, it's fine. Everybody else, yeah. If you should try to volunteer for a bunch of stuff, and see what it really is like, give up all your time for free. What's that? If you should try to volunteer for somewheres and give up all your time for free, you don't seem to appreciate what these guys do and they aren't getting paid. Are they getting a token that doesn't even cover the time or the hours they put in? And it's no different than any other volunteer organizations. You always get the people that run their mouths, but they aren't there to help. Well, I get a chance to hear it, and I'll go over it. It looks like that. Great. And then you're gonna report back to us, okay? Sure. Okay. Great. Mason, you have something you wanted to add to this? Sure. Yep. In reference to the minutes that you passed, discussion continued about the missing books, nothing more to report on that. Well, I can remember last meeting, I was in agreement that if you're tired of looking for the books, and we have a responsibility to the voters that if we're done, you should have a conclusion, and that conclusion could be real or perceived, not knowing where they are, and that you should let Michael, the Windsor Sheriff, understand the situation and let others take care of the problem. Now, that was a pretty serious suggestion, but in the minutes, it's a total blank out, and I felt I presented that in a comfortable way as a voter referring to our liabilities to our voters, that conclusion of missing records should be understood. Now, if we as a town have a fire and the building burns down, the next select board meeting would make a record. We, our records have been burned to the ground, and we have conclusion. Right now, you don't have conclusion on this issue of the 30 years. So just create a conclusion, turn it over to Michael. Do something, but just don't leave it in limbo. Limbo is not a good place for the taxpayers or the voters. That's what I was suggesting, but you have no idea in these minutes that I even made that suggestion. Well, I see that you suggested it again. I did, but that'll be interesting in some minutes. And I don't agree that that's a logical place to go with this. I think that's a waste of his time. It's not necessary. Totally unnecessary. It's, we are not the only town with missing minutes in the records. We don't give up on our MIAs and POWs, so we're not gonna give up on this book either, or books. I mean, these records, where were the select board meetings held during these years? Not in this building. Sometimes it's not taking me. I can't remember exactly what year. Where's Marvin when you need them? Is it from the 1930s? To the 50s or something like that? Somewhere in there, yeah. Yeah, I mean, very often records, records were just held in a kitchen cabinet somewhere. So, you know, it's. I have two questions. One, have you spoken to the historical society about maybe having a book? I have. Oh, you have, okay. And second one, is it appropriate, based on the authority, the town clerk and treasurer, whether I offer my health development here to look when it's available? I don't know if it's appropriate. If it is, I'm happy to help look. You're a taxpayer, you're entitled to look. Yeah, I mean, but I don't want to overset my boundaries. It's your purview, so. Okay, fine. Are you sure? Okay, great. I don't get it here. Call me when you want to look. I'm good. I'll call right to you. Great. See, so we're not going to call the cops on this. But it is, it's ludicrous to keep having this conversation every meeting. Right, the main point is that it's, it's on the agenda, not that we don't want to make it a new point and stop looking for the books. Just keeping it on the agenda, just rolls forward. Trust us. Well, it's almost good to get a report on what's happened over the last couple weeks, you know? So why don't we just keep it on there until we find them or declare them? Well, if you want to call each week and request it, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's redundant. And it's, it's a, this is going to double the time of our meeting, having the same talk about the same books. Well, if that's what you would like to do, then please go ahead and do it. But in terms of it being automatic on the agenda for the rest of time, because there's a book missing that we're, are we sure there ever was a book, then, you know, it's, yeah. So 14 minutes prior to that period. Yeah. I would assume that if one person leaves the board, they wouldn't just stop taking minutes. Well, that's assuming about people in the 20s, you know. Think about it. And Mason, you have one last thing to add to this, I hope. I would. I was trying to guess. Please come and join us. Step out. Yeah. I was trying to guess, you know, what year did Baltimore's install? I don't know. Eighteen. Count Hall relocated? Or was it always right here? No, I was in school. I was in school, I mean. I was in school, I was in school. You just let me over here and help me. Did it have a vault in? Just a safe thing. A safe thing. Oh, it's just trying to give you an idea. I mean, I look at the vault and it looks like it's, you know, it's, you know, it was purchased as a, it's the 80s. That's great. That's like the, you know, like the new vault in the 60s. The 80s or 90s that they put down? No. Yeah, I don't know. I wasn't, I wasn't on the board then, but, you know. I mean, it's there now to protect what's in it. And if these other minutes should show up, we'll put them in there. Where did they do select for a meeting prior to that? Is there anything else? Nope. That's it. Where is this place? Right next to Crayons, right? It was over there in the bank. Yeah. I think it's been several different places. Yeah. And who was it? Like you said, it had been in some ways a kitchen table. Yeah. I mean, it just seems that, you know, all the minutes from the previous meetings to that period are involved. Yeah, yeah, he said that. There was a lot of stuff that was moved around. You know, it's just funny that the period that pertains to the last minutes of the period is gone. All right. Well, you're going to help us find it. It's not a conspiracy. Maybe, maybe both ways. All right. So, is that enough on the old business of the making book? Yeah, that door is starting to stink. Yeah. Okay. Hello? Then thank you all for coming. And you still kept it under an hour. Yep. All right. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you.