 It's really fantastic to obviously come to places like Sundance and see some of these wonderful women who we gave an opportunity to on a show like America's Next Top Model doing so well. Hi Nigel. So I wanted to know a little bit more about your experience as a judge on America's next top model. Okay sure well that was some time ago. I certainly was a judge for a long time on on top model. We had a lot of fun. In fact I was excited to see that Annaly Tipton, one of our America's Next Top Model contestants, is actually going to be in a movie and I think it's premiering tomorrow at Sundance. So it's fantastic to see so many of the girls who someone went on to model but many went on to act. How would you say the modeling industry is changing now? Well modeling industry is very different these days. I mean certainly over the past 10 years and certainly five years social media has taken a hold of the fashion industry and really shaken it up and you'll you'll see that there are models like you know Kendall Jenner and Gigi Hadid and who have really risen to fame in large part because of their social media followings and of course why not. There's always something. Every sort of era of great models there is something that projects them to stardom and in this case it's their social media and arguably it's because they're so interesting on it or because their stories or who they are they're behind the scenes of their lives play a large part and the world is very interested in it and for a long time actresses and actors had actually taken the spotlight in fashion and we're on the covers of magazines and we're doing the fragrance ads and now once again the models are rising to their fame within that business and are back on being on the covers of magazines and doing fragrance ads so it's very interesting to see how social media has played a large role and even in Sundance once again you know you're seeing movies that are connected with Instagram and things like that so and there's a lot of social media too everyone's plugging away and sharing constantly. So Nigel what films are you most excited to see at Sundance? Well I'm actually very excited to see Yellowbirds I haven't seen it and I really want to see it I've been a bit trapped locked up doing my own interviews and doing my own things but it's fun to get here I actually showed one of my own films here many years ago and it's great to come as a filmmaker it's great to come as a photographer but most of all it's great to come here as a movie buff and movie lover. So what photography projects are you working on right now? I have a new show called Top Photographer which is on YouTube it's on Adorama TV which is a part of YouTube and we just finished our first season which went very well we're about to start shooting season two and we get photographers of all ilks from all over the country to compete against one another and some are picked from social media and have huge Instagram followers others don't and it's really kind of interesting to see them all competing against one another so right now that's a really exciting project for me and it's something obviously I've wanted to do for years. Awesome well thank you for taking the time to speak with me. Thank you.