 Well, Roots, that last 10 minutes felt like it had enough football to fill up an entire game. Just lost you about the other 80 minutes in a second, but what's your reflections on just that madcap ending? Yeah, just that. But that's football sometimes and you get that. You know, when you're playing away from home against a club like this with those kind of fans as well and you know, there's delirious and a bit of bedlam and all that sort of bedlam and all the rest of it, whatever the word is. For me, it's simple. You know, the fighting qualities and the fighting spirit and the determination that grit in this team was there and they never gave up and I've got to give the boys a lot of credit for that. Yeah, so I'm really, really, really pleased that we got something in the end and like I said, it was mayhem. It was chaos and all those things. We thought with the player up, you know, we were going to technically change something, but then we're attacking and we don't put pressure on the ball. We don't win the ball, you know, in their own half and they go and attack and get a corner and score from it. That's kind of how the game was. It was a lot of transitional stuff. We know they like to play in transition as well, particularly down our wings, down the wide areas. But like I said, I'm extremely proud that the boys just kept fighting and got a goal in the end. Is that one of the biggest things you've been working on ever since you took this job? Because previously this wanderer side wouldn't have expected them to certainly come back at the end there. Is that one of the biggest things you've emphasised? Yeah, I'm glad you said it because they're the observations that I had as well prior to taking it on and I think there's been a shift in mentality and something that we've been driving in the last six weeks or so. And that's what this club is about as far as I'm concerned. For me, you've got to go back to the values that made it so successful and I guess it makes it easier for me because I understand the people from the west and I understand what the fans want from their team. They want a reflection of themselves and I keep saying that but that's something that's got to be driven daily. And like I said, you get your just rewards in games like today where we're probably second best throughout the game. I'm not going to lie, but they fought and they stayed in the contest and they never gave up and all those things that we've been working on. That's what I'm really proud of them. And like you said, another day prior in seasons gone by, you probably would have lost that game. But we're starting to get some toughness about us now and that's something that I'm really proud of and the rest comes but the values, like I said, it's really important for me that underpin this football club that I continue to drive because it's in a short space of time, we're seeing a change there. You were dealt an early blow when Ramy Nazarene was forced from the field first. Do you know what he's done and what the prognosis is in two? Just how big of a blow was that to your game plan? It was because we changed those two wingers around for a reason. We had predominantly left foot on the opposite side and Kenji as well on that side. Like you said, the best laid plans, you can work all week on something and something like that happens, right? It's a hammy. We don't know the extent of it yet, but we'll find out. But it felt it. It's difficult because you rearrange things and there are other things there as well. We had a couple of players who got sick yesterday and didn't travel. So Dimmy didn't travel and Thomas as well. So it's starting to happen. So Jared was supposed to play, the boy that came on Carlucci, I was supposed to actually play in the NPL last night. I wanted him to get some 90 minutes in, because it's really important for the young players to get those development minutes into them. But it was one of those things that happened in yesterday's training and we had to refocus and find a solution very quickly. So I thought he'd done well when he came on, but it happens in the game. You just need to make sure that you plan properly. One of the players who really stood out was Daniel Margoosh. I mean, he made two massive saves in the second half, especially on Econometeus and Rojas. I guess, how have you seen his performances? I mean, he started out of the team at the start. He's worked his way in. I guess he's months since he's come back into the team. Excellent, excellent. Really, really good, you know. And as coaches, we're there to facilitate and improve and help them along their journey. And Daniel's won. We've had a chat individually with all of them and we sat down and had a good chat about themselves and where they want to go and where they see themselves in a month, in three months and looking forward in their careers. And Daniel's, I've worked with him, luckily, in the Young Socceroos. And, you know, Thomas Glover was there as well. And one thing that I did notice with Daniel was that he had great potential about him, but he didn't really believe in himself enough. And whereas Thomas Glover used to walk in at meals and really own the place. And you can see he almost mentally bullied him out of that position because they were very even, I thought, you know, and Thomas was coming from Tottenham at the time, right? So it's an area that Daniel needs to work on and really have a lot of self-belief. And a lot of them need to do that as far as I'm concerned. You know, there's some really good players there, but they need to really believe and work extremely hard. And, you know, one thing with Keeper is they've got to wait when your points. He certainly wants points tonight. There's no doubt about that. And he just has to keep working and believing himself and make those big saves like we know he can. But he's improved coming out for crosses now as well. You know, he used to punch a bit now. He's actually making his game management, he's much better as well. So he's just won. But he deserves to be mentioned because I thought he was outstanding tonight. You've got Jack Robbald back as well tonight. I only played about a minute at the end or so. But I guess, how's he progressed over the last month? I mean, is it just going to be a steady sort of integration back into the team after injury? Yeah, it may be. But, you know, James Trevis is the other one. You know, don't forget, we haven't had them for a long time. And we've had to make do without them. And they're arguably our better players. And, you know, when I first came, they were two of my better players. And then, unfortunately, they got injured and it does hamper your progression somewhat. But, you know, look if you look across the bench as a position coach and something that I do when you have a look at, you know, what sort of players they've got, they can make an impact when they come on. And to have someone like Jack and Jimmy there would have made a hell of a difference, you know, to the opposition team knowing that you can rely upon them. And James Cameron done really well, I thought, as well. And Jack needs to build his way into it. But a great character and, you know, any minute he gets, he's a real good team player and he's just happy to help the team out. Does it make you feel, then, like in a good position to attack this last stretch? I mean, your four points outside the final's place, as you sort of maybe get in the cavalry back bar ramming tonight. Does it make you feel you're in a good position in terms of the best is yet to come? I do, I certainly do. I really believe in these players. I really do. And with those players back, like you said, you know, and, you know, we've got to run our games now where, you know, we haven't tasted defeat, which is always important. You know, we're learning how to do that. But the start has been inconsistent with win and lose and win and lose and, you know, you try to work yourself out of inconsistency. But all you've got to do is be consistent with your messages every day, you know, and it takes a bit of time. And like I said, where they feel like they can, you know, go into any game now and get a result or not lose, you know, but it's not how I coach. I don't coach not to lose. I coach try and win. But it's important that they start seeing that and believe in themselves. Just building off that as well. How important is it, obviously, you showed grit and determination in this match and that's really what you've been discussing about how important is it going to be to build off of that specific element of your game going into the last portion of the season? Very, very much so. Because, you know, you get into these last 100 games where there's a bulk of matches to be played. We all know that. Every club knows that. You can see how tight the league is, you know, and no one's really getting the run right now, well, maybe apart from the top two teams. Yeah, but that's got to be there. Like I said, that's part of the values, you know, one of the core values as far as I'm concerned. And that's starting to show now. And, you know, like I said, I think no one would have given us a hope, you know, one nil down in injury time to actually get something out of the game and maybe a bit of fortune as well. But you've got to make that fortune by having that many bodies pushing up, allowed you to maybe force them into a mistake, right, and second guess themselves, which is what they did with that penalty, you know, two players not knowing who's going to clear that ball. Darby, again, coming up this week, obviously, got the chocolates earlier this month. I mean, how big is that now in the context of your season, this one coming up? Sydney are on the brink a bit, you're chasing. Yeah, no, it's a big game for us and there's no doubt. It's one, let's be honest, it's one for our fans, you know, more than anything else, you know, obviously our football club's important, but the fans are the ones that really, that we'll be playing for next week. But that's next week and there's still a lot of work, you know, a lot of days to prepare for that game, but it's still, and in the scheme of things too, you know, we know that they've been a little bit up and down, but they're always dangerous and we're going to give them a lot of respect as well. I haven't been getting on back for that game, no Tomer and no Demi tonight, are you hoping to get those guys back for next week? Yeah, yeah, we should be getting all of them back, yeah, like I said though, you know, Demi had, you know, just the case of some fluy like symptoms, it's not COVID, all right, so that's important. But no, it's happening, right, and we're seeing players struck down with that and so we've got to be diligent in the way we prepare. There's no guarantees, obviously, but you've just got to be smart, you know, in what you do and how you prepare and when you go home away from training. You just mentioned it then, COVID, it seems to be coming back, we've seen like the Jets. You yourself, you kind of missed that, like you weren't at the Wanderer, you were maybe at the very tail end of it when the league's up, he was really happening with that. I was playing golf, yeah. What's your handicap? No, I'm kidding. 9.1, yeah. But like, is that an advantage for you? Have you got to take a step back and look at which teams handled it well, which teams didn't figure out what they did well and what they didn't do, or is this going to be something that you're going to have to rapidly learn on the job? How do you approach that, having not gone through it once already? Yeah, well, at my former club I was involved in it, so I understood the protocols and the processes and we spoke to all of them and understanding how to manage these types of situations. I understand the question this year, you know, I didn't partake in it per se, but I have experienced, you know, being a coach of a football club, going through this COVID situation, so like I said, it's about us being diligent, about us being smart, and it could be the separator, and it could be the difference between, you know, teams winning games and maybe losing games, and so all that makes a difference, and the little 1% of us make a difference too, you know, the small details is always important, but you just got to trust them. You got to trust that when they're away from the football club. Yeah, as a football club we do everything really well, really, very professional, and making sure that it's a safe environment, but you know, when they go home and who they hang out with and the friends they invite over and if they go to a cafe or they go out, you can't stop them from living their life, but you just have to be a little bit smarter about it. Just one last one on the game, Steven Agarco, the man who stepped up. Yeah. I don't look at penalties, but yeah, I don't. What was key for me was who took the ball, right, because I don't really have a designated penalty taker for me to feel confident at the time, and the first thing I saw in the first person who made a beeline for the ball was Stevie, and that was important, right, and like you said, I'm yet to see it, but if that's what you said, I trust you, and that's what happened, right? Yeah, okay. Everyone cool? Thanks, Mick.