 Welcome everyone and welcome to mega life 21 live. I'm your host James P. Madonna and I am here with the gentleman a long-time friend It's been a very long time since this man has been on a show with me I'm here with the one and only the evangelist can create Ken nice to see you James same here. It's great to have you back. It's been a it's been a very long time Since you've been on my show and a lot's been happening with the evangelist can create Ken create is on the internet he can be seen on the web, but most people are familiar with Ken create with his physical talents in terms of creative dance Mime what should I say creative mind? and Storytelling of course and things of that nature, but they're not familiar With the other part of Ken create which is all the many years of Bible study right you've done right you have under your belt that evangelist can create I'm how many years have you done Bible study? Well, I accepted Christ in 1982 so that would be 32 years 32 years 32 years of formal Bible study, but it's a whole process of growing. Yeah well that's a long time and now you are Teaching yes, you like to use the word teacher not not minister or pastor or deacon or Ministry it is you like to use the word teacher. Well because Even when it comes to teacher See his different terms in the Bible. It says a Pastor has a flock and The people were underneath the pastor so he takes care of flock people in the body of Christ, right? That's his job His job is to teach them the word of God Preacher to me should be more in the terms of you're teaching So it's like if you go to church And you're having fellowship with believers That pastor is supposed to teach you the word of God. So it's almost like you're going to school And he's your teacher. Yes So when you go to church like you go into school You should have your Bible with you. You should have a pen with you. You should have a notebook with you So whatever he's feeding you should put that down or circle or key Or small tape recorder of some kind, you know, yeah, you could do that But but it's better to have like like I said a notebook a pen the word circle little job little things okay because My pastor taught me see he taught he taught me he was teaching me. Yeah, okay the word of God because we're under grace We're not under law. Yeah, that's a that's a difference there now a lot of people are unfamiliar with exactly What that means? I know for I for what I was told in the Old Testament the law Was at that time was meant for the ancient Israelites, right? But it was also at that time when the Ten Commandments was given to Moses It was showing people that they were a sinner. This is what the right Ten Commandments represented Okay, but when Jesus came and walked on this earth All right, and he died on the cross for your sins of my sins Okay, he said he came to fulfill the law So anybody who accepts Jesus Christ as their Savior? Yeah, and they're covered by the blood of Christ and God forgives all their sins past present future. That's a lot of confusion in there, too It's a lot of mass confusion and so now He fulfilled the law. All right, so now if Christ becomes your savior, you're not under the law No more You're under God's grace. Well, it's a gift from God But what a lot of these preachers and pastors are doing they're trying to mix the law with grace and They're confusing People, okay, so what people really got to understand is you're under grace. It's a gift from God Let's any mansion boast. Okay. It's not a works You can't try to prove something to God by doing good works by helping out people, you know and doing good things All right, so there's a difference there But what these preachers do is they try to combine Grace and law yeah together. So you're under grace now. Here's an example When I was going to church And you know, you you would hear when you confess your sins Lord forgive me I sin So when my one friend Taught us one time when I was done. I said told myself Bill you mean to tell me you don't ask God for forgiveness Of your sins. He goes Ken You're forgiven past present and future Why don't you thank him that you are? Forgiving so you are using the word forgiven in there, but you are thanking him that you are forgiven Well, you got to be sincere you can't be cocky and arrogant about it You know you know because well because what it is if you really don't understand that and what he taught me I started to understand my salvation more Okay, so if I'm still asking God for forgiveness. I'm not understanding who I am in Christ Okay, what grace is all about you you're not understanding the whole Nature on how salvation works Right, that's where you miss it out on so if I did you wrong and I came and asked you for forgiveness And you said Ken you're forgiven Why am I gonna keep coming back to you and asking you to forgive me? Yeah, why you already did now if you if I say I forgive you and you come back and screw me over again and again And again, I'm like, hey, are we gonna be doing this dance like forever. Well, see what we see with humans. It's different Okay, but with the Lord it's like every time you screw up Yeah, and and you will screw up like what you just said. Yeah, you're forgiven Thank him you are. Yeah, well, it was proven that man was incapable of keeping the war Even though absolutely even though some people are hung up on it still Well, that's where the religion comes in. Yeah, a lot of religious churches are caught up with the law. Yeah, there's a lot of Misinformation even like the fire and brimstone creatures, right or always telling you Going to hell you're going to hell you're going to hell you're going to hell Like like they were so positive that you were When they they're not God so they don't really know what's in your heart. Well, like I said, that's where the teachings come in Now, um Grace versus the law. I hope you people have an understanding on what that means now of course when When the apostle Paul came into the picture he his job was to go to the Gentiles Jesus's job was to present the word to the Jews. No, not Jesus the 12 apostles the 12 apostles He was separated. You see before Paul Became Paul. He was sore. Yeah, okay. He was Pharisees But there was a point in time That It could have been when Stephen was stoned Yeah, he could have been there A lot of preachers teachers said he was there okay but After then he would follow the apostles around so now after they were done preaching he would say with his teachings The religious teachings don't listen to these guys These guys don't know what they're talking about Okay, so now They were on the road to Damascus and he was following them and you got to remember he Persecuted a lot of Christians a lot Okay, now On the road there Christ appeared And blinded him And he knew it was the Lord because the light was so bright He was blinded So he said Jesus said to him so so why you persecute me and he knew it was the Lord All right So he says i'm going to give you a message And i'm going to change your name to Paul And you're going to go to the Gentiles Well, first you're going to meet dr. Luke And you're going to get your eyesight back So he went to dr. Luke and he got his eyesight back. All right Now he told him to go to the Gentiles And present the message grace So in the bible Paul says I was not sent by men This message directly came from jesus christ And the message you're saved under grace So Paul went to all the Gentiles And the apostles went to all the jews Now when Paul was preaching at the churches He was saying to them. Why are you putting yourself back under the law? When you're saved by grace Okay, now in the bible when you really start to understand this Okay, this becomes rightly dividing the word of truth And we're under the dispensation of grace. So there was all different dispensations Since the beginning. Yeah, and now since we're at the end We're under the dispensation of grace But it also says in the bible don't water down the message The doctrine. Oh, yeah the end of revelation. He who tampers with the uh, Anybody whoever takes away from the book or adds to the book Will piss god off quite a bit. Well, yeah, but see he plays right but see even with that they're adding Yeah, they're adding they're saying this is for today. But you're under grace today Okay And also the holy spirit works inside you Right, but you have a free world to choose Oh, yeah, you you come to crossroads you have you have different roads to take it's a but your choice You have the freedom to choose But you don't have the freedom About you know concerning the consequences of what road you pick right now I was listening to a pastor last night on the radio. All right And he said it was about forgiving others Okay, so he says if you're holding a bitterness against somebody and you can't forgive that person He says what you were doing is you're grieving the holy spirit So inside you is the holy spirit, right? So you're making the holy spirit sad But now when you go and forgive that person That burden is lifted from you now you're making the holy spirit happy Now the holy spirit can work inside you You see I'm trying to say And he can clear your mind because the bible says renew your mind in christ think on these things Which are heavenly things and not earthly things. Yeah, but if you're holding that bitterness And you can't forgive that person you're grieving the holy spirit But you can read the holy spirit And Anything you're doing All right, for example, I'll give you one example if you're watching tv and you're flipping your channels And there's a show that comes on And it's a raunchy show and you're a believer change the station But by you watching that That material is feeding into your mind And your mind Is like a recorder So The devil is around you And he's putting in your mind at the same time Hey, isn't this show interesting? Don't you like this game you wait for the next episode to come out? Yeah, so when you feed into that garbage That's on tv it feeds into your brain And this is how you think brainwashing. Well, yeah, and this is how the devil operates So that's why it says in the bible Think on these things Renew your mind in christ Renew your mind in christ is thinking on heavenly things Not worldly things not lustful things So you as a believer if you're feeding into the world and into your flesh You're not going to grow. So when you come in contact with people that don't know christ They're not going to see a change about you. You see they're they're they're in darkness They're lost You're saved You're supposed to be your light. That's why the bible says let your light shine amongst all people So your light is supposed to shine around people. So if I come in contact with you All right, and say you use slang words Do I do this? Am I using the same language as you? Like if you say to me, hey, what's up, bro? Do I come back with that same slang? Okay, or do I come back? Like to say pretty good james You see what I mean? So now you're seeing a difference in my language You're seeing a change in my language. That's the light being shined on. Well, I I assume that the temptation Is a gradual Brainwashing process where you think he's throwing or Satan is throwing little By little at you to get you addicted to something that takes you away from the focus on God Right. Now what he also does is in the bible says you're a new creation in christ Now what that means is And this is what the amazing thing about God Okay, when somebody comes And accepts christ and is covered by the blood and all the sins have been paid for Okay, the angels marvel at this. Yeah But they're looking at you like to say no way that person's becoming a believer All right Now god saves you It doesn't end there He's going to work on you the bible says he's going to mold and shape you into the image of christ Now in god's laboratory He loves Create in you to change into christ now the more he's molded and shaping you into christ The angels marvel at this And they're seeing changes in your life. So they're seeing where you're at Now if you're running the race, right You're here They can't believe how far you came in christ. They can't believe what god is doing in your life They can't believe where he's leading you And where he's bringing you And they marvel at this because they can't understand this could be how god is reproducing himself Why uh, well what he what he does is see in the bible. It says we are born a corruptible seed Okay, right. So when somebody accepts christ All right, you're incorruptible seed now meaning when you're born you're born into flesh So you get so the sin of adam and eve after the um The repentance and the salvation the sin of adam and eve is washed away Right when you accept christ That's the first thing that takes place right because now What born it is another thing people don't understand what born again means You're not physically born. No, you're born in the spirit. Yeah, they keep on you're only born once Yeah, okay, so let's get that straight Well, they may a lot of people mock the words born again They make fun of it Because they don't they because they don't understand they don't understand and the christians don't know how to approach that Right now what the problem with the christians is is when they go out to witness the people All right, a lot of them. I did it. Hey when you died. How do you know you're going to heaven? It's wrong approach I learned that Okay by being in the word and in paul's letters He says look when you go out to witness somebody first of all let the holy spirit need you Now when you go to talk to that person let the spirit inside you Okay Talk For you meaning more word that's fed into you the word of god the more information is going to come out of you All right, and he also says now when you're witnessing somebody All right, don't bring your approach Hear them out find out what they're all about And then you can get into conversation right and slowly you can lead that into christ So if somebody I met was talking about I can't believe what's going on in this world And they're talking now I can have a conversation with them Because you also got to understand it's great that you know the word of god. That's fantastic But it's great also to know the world's knowledge So now you got both knowledges So now when i'm talking to this individual and he's talking about a certain situation going on in the world I can relate to him All right, but through that I can say to him. Yes, you're right, but there's a way to escape And bring the message to him So i'm not going up to that individual and saying hey, if you died tonight, how do you know you're going to heaven? Don't walk right away from me. Hey, Jesus christ, you're savory. Don't walk right away from you Okay, are you born again? Do you know what it means to be born again? Don't walk right away from you. No Listen from them Hear them out and the more knowledge like I said if you know about the world Because you're living here Yeah, okay, you can feed that information what what you know about in the world then you can click Okay, and then through that you can bring out salvation to somebody. So that's my approach. Yeah Yeah, well, we're obviously living in the end time. Absolutely. There's no doubt about that I mean with with the world crisis the extreme negative world Crises that are happening all over the world and with the wars with corruption and scamming and dishonest people are everywhere And uh, uh, uh greed is definitely everywhere, you know, it's like profit before people in the planet Corporations taken over Politicians are paid off Corruption, you know and and they don't care what happens to the environment They don't care what happens to to the survival of of of the life on earth It's it's it's an obsession with money that never ends. Well, even like what you're talking about right there That's another thing that Christians don't understand Because I'm in fellowship with different Christians. I do different shows in the body of christ So god makes me watch god makes me see I hear people's conversations Now what you said was we're living in the last days Christians don't understand The last days began when the message of grace was given to paul Over 2000 years ago The last days began because the one the people talked to paul And paul explained to them. They thought christ was ready to appear So what he was really saying to him not in your time All right, so what that basically means last days is When the grace message began, right? You're under the dispensation of grace Which has been going on now for 2000 years where we are right now Okay, is we're A second away before midnight Christ is ready to return at any minute. We are past the last days We're there where the cuckoo clock is ready to strike. Yeah, so we got to get that straight to people Yeah, well because well a day in a year to god is like nothing. It's like a nano second It's nothing, you know, and everything has to happen in in the correct time sequence, you know, um Maybe Certain things in history and the old testament happened for a reason because like in other words civilization could have advanced way before Modern times. I mean there were there was certain things in history Like the tower of babel and then there was uh, the destruction of the the great libraries in a alexandria egypt world a greek scientist had uh, uh, the point is that the world Was reaching uh progress and then made big setbacks right because possibly You know Like we are not a da Vinci the pope the catholic church kept him down suppressed him Uh, same thing with uh, galileo cappernicus There every time there was an advancement in science back then Uh, something happened where there was a big setback. So maybe Knowledge was not meant to be acquired That soon Until now right because it does say in the end times That knowledge will be advancing tremendously. Well, I'll see that's another thing too because you could go back into the old testament Where it says knowledge will increase people will go to and fro to and fro means helicopters 747s Train transportation fast fast. Okay. Now. It says also that knowledge shall increase So let's let's give a little example here Okay, uh, you had The man who discovered the telephone belt Right alexander granba. Okay, so he started out with a communication or maybe two Things I could hear you. I can't hear you. Okay. So through that while he discovered You know that you can communicate with somebody else And then it went to another line and then it went to a telephone Right. All right. And then they advanced it to push push things Touch tones. Yeah, okay. Now they advanced it to sell phones Now they're combining the computer or the laptop right with a phone a tablet and blah, blah, blah, blah, yeah Okay, so now just using that as an example now use the example with the phonograph Now that's starting. Okay. All right. And then it went to 33s and uh 45s And then from there it advanced to a tracks Then from there it advanced to cd. So cassettes cassettes and then cd then cds And now they're in a process of making it almost like a chip and you can store everything On that it's going to take over the cd. I have one in the car. It's a little flash drive You can you can fit like a thousand or more songs on right? Okay. So now with that All right, this is not like y'all increase It's here. It's here. It's here. So like I said getting back to the last days They're growing organs in a laboratory organs. Exactly with the stem cell, you know a dna Exactly, you know, I mean, all right, right. So by getting back to the last days We're right before it's going to strike 12. Yeah, and the problem With the believers is and even people I know who are believers. Yeah Uh christ ain't going to come for 50 years Uh, he's not going to come in our lifetime So an individual that thinks like that to me is showing they're sleeping They're not ready. They're avoiding. They're not alert. Well, to me, it's like you're living well to me It's like you're living in the flesh Well, how did they know that they have a back phone to god? How do they know when when the end is well because what it is They can't face the facts. You got to get your acting. Nobody knows not even the angels know the exact time No, that's true. But also you got to look into something in the bible Yeah, all right. Where the apostle said to jesus will tell us the time in the hour And he says well not even the son of mandos All right, so now you've got to also look at when jesus walked this earth Right and he was god He walked as man All right, now this is a mystery to us So maybe when he said that he was walking as man and that was taken away from him See what i'm trying to say because you got to remember he's god So now when he went to heaven and he's sitting at the right hand and the father Maybe he does know because he's god. I have no idea Okay, but that's just a question out there. All right. Yeah now another thing when it comes to free will And god gives you a choice right all right. We got to look at it this way When god created everything and he created the angels And he created one of the top angels arc angel and his name was lucifer Now look at the old testament And the old testament describes how god created this angel. It was it was a perfect Angels, uh, well it was not only a perfect angel a lot of talent to well. Yes But was not only a perfect angel that can go to and fro But the way he was created and what was closed on him were rubies and diamonds So when he flew around you see all these brilliant lights Coming off of him. He was the morning star. He was bright He was brilliant. Okay, but now god gives you a choice See god did not create the angels god did not create us as robots their free will You have a free will because if god created you as a robot and created the angels as a robot Where's that free will to worship him? There is no free. Yeah, what's what's the point of every? Everybody's program program. All right. So now He gave him all this power right and he gave him dominion to rule Yeah, right because you gotta remember god is the beginning. God's the end Okay, he knew what he was gonna do all right, but I can't question god because he's the creator. Yeah, I mean he let it happen. He lets things happen Uh, you know for certain reasons There's reasons, but he know but he knows he knows what's gonna happen, buddy Let's him happen. Anyway, either it's a test or a blessing. I don't know, but it's it's a lot of mysterious things like a little like before The spirit that became jesus right when he created the heavens and the earth universe What on earth that god and the word do? Before that when there was nothing they just sat in complete darkness with no no stars no planets no suns No, no earth. No. I mean, what did they do? Did they get bored? Well, that that's a deep question. Well, it's a deep question But that's what's blind from our mind because of sin Yeah, all right because when christ comes back And people are at the judgment seat of christ and you get your rewards. All right. That's another thing Heavenly place unless heaven is like another Dimension like a parallel universe and the heaven and the universe is part of the material world And that no I don't I don't know okay because there's three heavens. Yeah, but anyway Okay, when it comes to what you're talking about that's blank out of our mind But one day when everything is revealed in you by christ and you're like christ You're gonna know What god was doing all right when there was nothing We don't know that right now because of sin. We don't know why Lucifer felt and became Satan. We don't know that so there's things that we don't know That are blank from us because of sin now anyway Getting back to lucifer now. He's doing all this brilliant stuff in the third of the angels We're watching him And he had like a third of his angels and they were under his like command Okay, he got so big for his britches An nvm pride set in him was like wow Might have been getting applause from the the angels and he might have been like well, wait a minute I could do this. I could do that. I could do this. I'm brilliant. Look at me I'm flying all around. I lit up the sky. Hey I could be like god In fact, I'm going to go the way strong and overthrow him So now he goes and and there was a war in heaven Okay, and it's almost like god looking at him and like are you kidding me get out of here Okay, so he cast him down Okay, now let's look at him lucifer free will free choice Now free will free choice Means look you worship god out of love That's your free will. Yeah, that's your free choice now. What's on The other side of free will that could be seen So free will is worshiping god Okay What's the other free will going against god? That could be seen So you got boom. Do you worship god out of love one or number two? I'm going to be like god Don't tell me what to do god. Yeah See and the pride That's your choice Yeah, right. The first sin was of course vanity, you know and uh First sin, yeah, but then of course adam and eve uh, ruined it for everybody by uh, no, no Well, see that's where people get the wrong interpretation too. You gotta just understand first guy created battle And then when he was sleeping he took his rib and created eve All right, and they cling together as a couple which would go into marriage. Well, the marriage ceremony came Right thousands of years after, you know, well, no, no, no because because they had offspring they had kids Okay, so they cling to one another they they joined I meant the ceremony Right. All right. Yeah, but what I'm saying is getting back to them Okay Adam and eve was the first two individuals human beings that god created Let us create them in our image. But they were in paradise. Okay, right All right now That stems from the human beings adam and eve that that's our mother And that's our father when they were created humans. Okay now God could have created you James And he could have created sally All right, and put you in the garden you would have took of it too You mean took of the forbidden fruit. Absolutely Okay, so not let's not blame see we're putting the blame on them Yeah, but god god told them not to eat from that tree. I understand that but and they did it right So let's replace them with james and sally. So if you would have done it till so free will for the angels Of course a big problem, right free will for for humans for man and woman was a big problem, right? Anytime free will is involved there's a crisis or sin arises exactly and You know if they of course it was meant to be that they ate from the tree Now if they didn't eat from the tree Then all of us would have been born in paradise, right? Okay, nobody would get sick nobody would feel cold right, but it would feel too hot Nobody would have to go to work right and deal with some asshole employer, right? Right and so on and so forth But but see like I said in creation there had to be a problem there And that has to deal with free will right, okay? So why did they fall? Why were they disobedient? You see what I'm trying to say why? Why temptation? It has it has games. It has to deal something with free will Okay, because I heard the one preacher say like why does god let this all go on when he can't wait for us out In a half a second and recreate everything And recreate new human beings I tell you why you haven't noticed with with most human beings with most people If you tell them something brand new that they never heard before they instead of Having an open mind and really listening to you. They right away. They deny it. They they put it down They they ignore you they change the subject. It's like they automatically Have this reaction To something that they must something that they could be learning that's different. They automatically push it away So that that's a negative part of people. Yes, okay, but they and also they don't understand All right, because like I said with that free will you have a choice. Yeah, okay And in that choice that's up to you All right, and what the problem is in the body of christ today is like the one preacher said, all right work Spoiled brats god's children are spoiled brats So you think that okay? I got married and I've been married eight years And i'm a believer and I have two kids All right, but my wife's nagging about this and that instead of you know being in the word And praying together and growing our kids up. Okay, and the fear and the nurture of the lord We're we're slowly drifting apart We're all of a sudden The man is separated from the wife And the wife was like I want to get a divorce So now they get a divorce now they look at that as believers and say, okay, well i'm forgiven All right, so now since i'm forgiven I'm gonna I don't want to be lonely. So now i'm looking for another me All right, so now they go and take advantage of that meet somebody Believer or non-believer with it and they remarry But they think in god's eyes That's okay All right, the little did they know is when you go into holy matrimony. What does it say? You cling on to one another to best Got to your part. Okay. Okay better. So god's eyes. It's like No, you're taking advantage You're taking advantage We so you don't get along with that one and you're married two years And you get a divorce and it's like okay. I'm forgiven. So let me go get another one It's uh, it's like um or spoiled james. You're giving up you they give up right away you know, it's like um Instead of taking on life's problems as they come they want to run away and divorce is a way of running away You know, if two people wanted to save it They could save it. They can go to a psychologist to a marriage counselor. It could be saved If two people want to save it they want to compromise really what people are too selfish to compromise But that's where the word comes in You got to be in the word to be self to lose that selfishness. Yes You have to be in a word. You have to be in prayer. You have to be in fellowship Individuals are edifying each other building each other up. All right, but like I said, we become spoiled forgiveness Couples forgiven each other and starting fresh starting new. Hey We are spoiled grass. Okay. So what it is is before christ returns All right, you'll see a falling away in the body of price All right now They're saved But they're getting out of fellowship with christ Yeah, all right, and or they're listening to other things That it's like let's put it this way. Paul says spiritual gifts One's giving this gift the other's giving this gift the other's giving that gift. Yeah, all right. So he says I rather you Walk in love Then have a gift Because that gift you have Once you get puffed up with that you're taking your eyes off of christ And now you're focusing on the gift more than christ. It's like material possessions Obsession with money like with the rich sports cars whatever Suits your fancy, you know ferrari lamborghini bmw mansions Money becomes idolatry right it becomes their god right and and no matter how much money they they receive It's never enough right so that takes them away from god takes the focus away, but in the end times You that's where that's where you got to get off that work in the end times You got to get in on the word christ is ready to return But first is where like you said we're a minute before midnight I think we're I think we're later than that Well, look up to timothy people It describes how people How the human race will become their hearts will get harder and harder and harder Uh, uh, I was telling ken create Uh before we went on the air That uh, perfect example is the story of a homeless man Lying on a sidewalk like he was sleeping And people just stepped over him like he was like roadkill like he was uh Invisible because the man was broken homeless. He would you immediately lose your Humanly value when you become broke in america, you know and homeless, but it turned out the man was dead Uh, he was mugged Wherever he was beat up and he he was killed And as bad enough he was homeless, right and nobody called 911 nobody called the police nobody cared Nobody cared. There was no empathy. There was no compassion You know, and that's a perfect example on People becoming cold, right and with no compassion or empathy Very selfish And then there's greed and it sounds a lot like the the right wing conservatives Republicans rather, but uh, yeah It's here. You can see it all around you, right now also To continue what you're saying because it's a similar thing but different and it deals with the homeless I was listening to pastor on a radio And uh, he's in jersey. He says Him and his son he brings to the hockey games. Yeah, so they go see the new jersey devils He says when I would come out He says we walked to our car. He's a little homeless people everywhere. Okay So we said we just go about our business and hop in our car and Drive back to our house Nice house comfy got this got that got this got supplying our needs. Great. He says All right And he says and i'm taking care of the flock and I see the church growing and stuff like that He says but god was showing me something That's good what you're doing in the body of christ And you're growing and the church is growing What are you doing outside the body of christ? All right, so he says a couple weeks past Went back to the devil game Right. Yeah, same situation. They got home. He said the lord started talking to me The holy spirit started talking to me and he said the holy spirit told me You walk by them homeless people you're not paying attention to them All right. He says what you're going to do for one day one night You're gonna be homeless And you're gonna go there And you're gonna be one of them All right, and you're gonna see everything that they do All right, and not only that When the people come out of the arena from the hockey game You're gonna see what they do and i'm gonna show you That's what you do when you come out of the game. You know, there was a movie like that one time I think mel brooks I could be wrong No brooks played the homeless person and he was rich and stingy and selfish and greedy and the judge There was some situation where the judge demanded That he lived in the street like the people right he treated like like crap, you know, uh Yeah, it's just sad that in well it is the material world is the devil's world But it's sad that once you become broke and and penniless that your human value is is gone and people ignore you You become invisible, you know, right now what he should have done was if he really wanted to grow as a christian He should well, that's where I want to continue. I go ahead. Go ahead. Okay now He says he put the homeless clothes on raggedy pants dirty air dirt just like that Uh sneakers dirty and he says I went there Parked my car somewhere. God told me parked it and I just Went into the crowd. Mm-hmm. And I I started asking questions He says with the homeless people socks are very big because of the winter I would think coats and everything. Well, yeah, but the socks because that's the first thing that gets cold It's your feet your feet and your hands and your ears So protection of feet hands and ears very big with homeless people Okay, so he says now I'm playing that role. All right. I'm like one of them And we're eating out of garbage cans people coming by You know, hey, could you help us out? Get out of here. You bummed the whole nine yards. He says now He says we're drawing from the cops. All right almost to the arena And now all the people start coming out of the arena and they're looking at us like Couldn't like you don't exist like you're invisible like it's not their problem Right and they walk right by it. All right. So we said god show me This is what you do when you walk out of this place So he says now so what i'm doing He says since I seen all that he says and I walked in their shoes He says what I am doing now is I am building a ministry there with tents And we're gonna feed the homeless. We're gonna give them clothes Socks whatever they need and we're gonna get the word of god To these people so he says When I came out of the arena and I seen this he says this is what I should have been doing But he says I didn't care God had to show me something Okay So I can do something for the homeless So I said if I came out of that place Yeah And seen what was going on and tried to help them out He says it might have clicked that wow I'm gonna build tents give them food give them clothes All right and minister to them, but he said it took me To be in people's position to understand To understand what these people said then all of a sudden he had the compassion and the empathy When people are down and out well because he was there, you know When people are down and out even when the rich lose everything You know and everything's taken away from them then all of a sudden they change and they become humble They they become humble when they're when they're down and out but when they're not It's like when somebody you know grew up in a in a poor rough neighborhood Let's say Or even in the suburbs and they grew up and they had friends that they knew since childhood And then all of a sudden they become rich and famous right and they forget everybody right They forget their family and their friends. You know what I mean and uh Hey, they might lose everything and they might have to go back to their neighborhood and to their family and friends but the point is they uh It's it's just peculiar how people's personalities change When they need something desperately They become nice and humble all of a sudden And then well, yeah, I agree when they're independent and rich they're arrogant I agree. They don't care. You know, it's like oh everything's not their problem, right? But getting back to that story. Yes It took the lord To show him something to do something for these homeless people and he said I was wrong He said I automatically should have jumped on that And I didn't and he says I was wrong. So he said god does show us things Okay, but when we see things we should take advantage of that So I looked at that situation and she and she said I'm gonna do something for these people No, it took the lord to say to me You're gonna walk in their shoes Well and see what's going on divine messages today come in this form Maybe in the old testament you would hear a voice from the sky or an angel would appear in front of you But now the messages are subtle that you know, they're they're through they could be through anything the radio the tv People well, that's why it says in the bible. You walk by faith not sight Right. It's by faith because faith is hope That's something in this case. Well, faith faith is You believe in what christ did for you. You're believing he walked this earth Believe in he died on the cross you can't you can't prove it in a material world because material worlds are based on The material world is based on science and you have that proof. So you you only have faith No, well faith the bible says faith comes by hearing the word of god Yeah, so your faith is based on that book that bible That's where your faith is based on but Before you come and go into that book and somebody talks to you Do you accept what christ did for you? Now if you did and that is found in the word of god, but you didn't pick up the book yet All right, and you're trusting on that then you're believing that he did walk this earth That he did dying across For your sins and my sins that's faith now when you trust in the finished work of christ And he becomes your savior All right Now you start getting in the word and the word starts opening you up And once that book starts opening you up and you're walking around and you're seeing stuff in this world Totally different than that book You're like This is amazing. So if somebody's putting you down Or somebody's harping on you. All right, it's like why But when you go to the word You see why So if I go out to witness to somebody and somebody puts me down You know, you're a crackpot. What are you doing this for you're weird? All right, when they go in the word the word says bless it is the man who's persecuted for my name So I'm blessed All right So if I'm being persecuted because my faith is in christ I'm blessed So if I'm blessed from god What I care about man what they say Count it all joy when you go through trials and tribulations So if I'm going through trials and tribulations What that means is I'm going through a storm But god is making me stick close to christ and grow in christ Now when I'm persecuted to put down the whole nine yards or something backfires in my life And I'm sticking close with the lord. I'm in fellowship with god All right. I'm in fellowship with the holy spirit. I'm in fellowship with christ I'm turning more into christ or running my race. I have my eyes on christ All right, then that joy of the holy spirit Inside me is coming alive and the holy spirit is happy inside So now when people see me like example real quick I'm working with a carnival guy Pull up this guy's block Truck cocks out can't move it Running late to this guy to get His party going he's where he's cursing. He's dead sees that He has a truck skeletons Right heavy metal Right. Okay, fine. He comes out of his house. He's yelling. He's screaming. Yeah I'll kill that guy. I'll go up to that carnival guy. I'll blow his brains out All right So the guy the kid that he knew he walked home. He says my friend's crazy And i'm seeing it all but i'm seeing demons all over this guy all over this guy I mean he like he snapped but you can see these two personalities All right, so we finally get that truck down the hill and he comes down the hill And he's looking at me and he looks at me and he goes hey you I said yeah He goes get that smile off your face I'm like, what are you talking about? He says you got a smile on your face this big. He says i'll rip that smile right off your face And i'm just standing there, but what he is seeing Is the light And he thought I was laughing at him. Yeah, what are you laughing at me for i'm like, what are you talking about? He goes you're smiling bro. This ain't funny So you see he's seeing light And i'm just hanging out So what that is is I was going through a trial right there in that situation because this guy was crazy All right I'm minding my own business hanging out trying to calm things down. Yeah, all right. The holy spirit inside me Is glad is happy All right So the holy spirit starts shining on my face and i'm smiling and I don't even know it and he's like What are you laughing about right, but that's making the holy spirit happy Inside you. Okay. So now if I witnessed it somebody like one lady I witnessed it one time Like she says to me, uh I don't want to interrupt you, but she says you got a smile on your face. It's this big and she says your eyes And your face is glowing That's a joy to lord Because what I am talking to her about Christ makes me happy And then the holy spirit works inside me and he's glad So now it's all over my face Okay, now people call that oh, that's the anointing The anointing just came on you. Oh, I could see it in your eyes See what I mean the holy spirit lives inside you James All right, so do you bottle the holy spirit up inside you or do you release? The holy spirit. Well you you you don't make a A spectacle out of it, you know you you you do it You do it the way you normally do things according to your personality some people are Quiet and soft spoken some people are excitable. It depends on your personality Whatever whatever however you can express your joy You do it. Yeah, but see you got to realize once you understand what salvation means to you and what christ is for you And you're in the word and you're in prayer and you're in fellowship Okay, well it should just hit you. What about my neighbors? What about my family? Yeah, you know what I mean or are you going to keep this to yourself and say? Well, that's their problem. You know what I mean when I die. I know I'm going Whatever with them So it's like you're going to a building in the building's on fire and you see somebody in that Building and they're saying help help and you can help that person Are you going to let that person die in a fire? Or are you going to try in a way to get them out of the fire? Well, that's the message you have to share and And help the people who need help You know, you get the word out just like jesus you get the word visited the had dinner with the with the prostitute and the And uh, we're a roman or something then yeah in other words He didn't stay In his little cubby hole you get the word. He was out helping people who needed help Now people that are not spiritual that live in the world You know material things are their god, you know, they're important to them You know to a person who's spiritual Being rich is not a priority to them Well, yeah, but i'm saying now, but that's where you're wrong. You're supposed to be content because they're tough That's what they're told you're supposed to be content with contentment survival says if you have A shelter your health right food on the table, right? You know what I mean? You should be that's that's Wealth right there if you have your needs, right exactly, but to be rich Like joe ostin talks about right and to get even richer, right? That's not but it's but see there's nothing wrong with that But it's like where are your priorities? What are you doing with your money? Exactly now if it's coming in and you're rich And you're flowing it back out to spread the word of god and help people in need All right, uh, help your other sisters in christ. Yeah, okay Give uh to certain pastors you might like on listener support Food pantry, uh, you got that green so both now bless up, you know, not wrong feeding starving children in africa Supply not wrong supplying food pantries for the homeless, you know to someone and so forth that there's nothing wrong with it So because you're doing good with your money helping other people. That's what I mean So like I'll give you an example marionna reverie Okay, he's a believer That's all the money's coming in. All right. Oh, look what he's doing in panama building churches They fixed up the church for his wife. He's building Rochelle. He's building new Rochelle new york, right? His wife has she outgrew her home her bible study got so big right that she wants to be a pastor Or maybe she is already and he bought a church that needed a lot of work right and he's doing it Yeah, because he can do it now another guy that was in the mba. Yeah went for a huge contract All right, but when I read his biography, all right that money he took he built two churches And he built the school right now all these kids have uniforms they wear They get showers food everything. They're taking care of yeah, and his contract at the time was a hefty contract But when I see something like that, it's like wow You just got a hundred million If you're going for 200 and you're going to bless others go for to go for and you're not going to change And it's not going to change you and you're going to continue to that's it to help other people Bless others well to help to help the war. There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong But if you hoard the then that's my problem if you're a billionaire and you hoard the money and you don't help people in need Then that's great. That's great. Well, basically billionaires the majority of them. They're lost. They don't know price But I'm talking if you're a millionaire and you're saved And you don't bless others that's yeah because now that money Becomes your god and becomes your idol and now you're taking your eyes off of christ It could be a it could be a famous basketball player in the NBA that gives back to his the the neighborhood he grew up in Maybe he builds a new boys club in his old neighborhood. Well, but that's good. He helps the that's good You know a feed the right, but that's good. Yeah, but if he's not a believer He's trying to do that to prove something to god and god says That's good work. So he's trying to work when about i'm sorry He's trying to win brownie points with god By doing good deeds, right, but he might not be a bully right So now he figures when he leaves this world god will weigh more of the good he did Okay, like he did more good and lesser evil, but god says no you're born in this world talent lies Okay, you're born in the flesh. You're born into sin All right In the only way you can get right with me and being a fellowship with me And when you leave this world you come home to me is you have to be covered by our blood of christ without that You're lost, bro. You're lost Okay, i'm going by the word. That's it. Yeah, you guys always you go by the word. It's a word of god And that's what i speak scripture. That's it I uh, you know, there's a lot of people who make up their own rules and that's why I don't I don't like organized religion they make up they have man-made rules and uh I'm not interested in organized religion. I'm interested in what's actually in the bible. Absolutely And uh, you should try to get the king james version King james is very strong because now they went to other uh inspirational Okay, writings and stuff. Yeah, like you have american version There's a little different kind of version. You need to concordance. You need to concordance because I have them too But I basically okay my bible because I have like six or seven of them Yeah Is I stick to the king james and I like the eyes and the dies the dies and dows and Old ingots. I like that. That's why I like studying. All right, cool. I'll be very very good Very good. I don't want to say cool, but then that's more Yeah, let's use the king's english here, right? But anyway that you want to wrap it up take a break. Yeah, we could take a break. All right. Thank you for joining us Uh joining me here on mega like 21 live. You have just uh Seen the introduction of the evangelists can create. This is this is our first live show ever on through uh live stream and uh It was very enlightening and very invigorating indeed. That's for sure and uh This is st. Patrick's day weekend you know, so uh salute to all the irish americans irish people up there and uh um Let's see. That's the The 15th, right right 17th would be a monday. 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