 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind Pump. Mind Pump. With your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, this is the one. Adam, Justin, and myself have some interesting conversation for the first 37 minutes. Always interesting. In our intro. By the way- It's never uninteresting. By the way, I want to mention this. I always forget to mention this. Mindpumpmedia.com. We have show notes for all of our episodes that are time stamped. So you can kind of look at the show notes. Shout out to Jackie. That's right, Jackie. We love you. So we start off the conversation by talking about hippos and lions versus tigers. Apparently I'm a hippo. Hungry, hungry hippo. He's got them cakes. We talk about piercings, hipsters, and tattoos. And we talk about disappointed parents. The natural follow up to that. I also mentioned the Four Sigmatic supplements that I'm going to use to get over my New Year's Eve hangover. I'll be on that one. Now, we are sponsored by Four Sigmatic. If you go to Four, spell it out, F-O-U-R-Sigmatic.com, four slash mind pump, enter the code mind pump without a space. You'll get a discount at a checkout. We also mentioned our other sponsor, Thrive Market. We did our unboxing, got some cool stuff, got some cricket chips made with real crickets. Yeah, they crunch. We have a discount with Thrive Market also. Thrivemarket.com forward slash mind pump. This is what you'll get. One month free membership, $20 off the first three orders of $49 or more, and free shipping. Then we get into the questions. The first question was, if you're trying to bulk, does it help to undulate your calories? We've talked about doing that for cutting. What about when you're bulking? Will you gain more muscle by doing that? Or should you just always eat more calories? 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They're bad asses, bro. They're the bad asses. They kill everybody. Yes. No. In a fight, a hippo would kill a bison. It kills everything. What is it? The only thing that a line, a line, I mean a hippo gets killed by is a pack of lions, right? Nobody fucks with hippos. Like a crocodile can't even touch you. Nobody fucks with a hippo. No, the only one that fucks with a hippo I think is a pack of lions. They don't even do that. The hippo snaps big ass crocodiles in half with its bite and they're fast. They go after the baby hippos. The lions go after the baby hippos and it still takes a gang of them. They're not just one. Yeah, they're savages. You know what though? Let's be honest. If you were a lion and you were looking at all the animals and trying to think you're thinking yourself like which one's the tastiest? Yeah. The baby hippos look delicious. Don't they? Yeah. They're just like these pudgy... Yeah, it looks like a... Like a donut? Yeah. Yeah, it's like the cream puff of the animal world. You know what I'm saying? It is. And if you think about it... It probably looks like what it tastes like. In nature the most delicious things are always the most dangerous. Always. Like if you're a human and you're like, oh fuck, there's sugar. Honey, right? I want that honey. You gotta get stung a bunch of times. I want that sweet, fat ass. Yeah. It like bites you. Right. I want to eat you alive. Yes. So if you're a lion you're just watching. You know what I mean? Yeah. They're not even hairy. You know, it's just like, ooh, look at that. Yeah. Exactly. You're like as soon as mom... As soon as that mom turns around. I'm gonna eat that delicious baby hippo. Weren't you watching the wildlife channel yesterday on your phone? Was I? Yeah. I wasn't. Uh-huh. Wait, was I? Mm-hmm. There was a video. There was a single video I think I saw. Yeah. Oh, you know what it was? It was a lion, a sick old lion getting attacked by hyenas. Oh, fuck. Hyenas are... Hyenas are assholes. For sure. Yeah. For reals. No, dogs are fucking... The way dogs hunt is crazy, dude. Yeah. Doggos? Mm-hmm. Do you know who would win in a fight between a lion and a tiger? This is actually... A liger. That's if they had sex. Yeah. No, a lion winds up. Do you know why? And a tiger. Really, I thought a tiger was... Do you know a tiger? Because I could get and like climb trees and shit. So tigers are bigger than lions. Yeah, exactly. They're a lot bigger. It's decently bigger. Well, didn't they fight them all the time back in like gladiator days? Yeah. And so the Roman gladiator or coliseum history or whatever, they kept like logs of these animal battles and they'd fight them and then there were animals that were the kings of the coliseum. The king of the coliseum, the one animal that would just kill everything was a hippo. But when you had a lion against a tiger, the lion would usually win. And that's because even though they're smaller... He has more heart. Lions. What do you do? He has more heart. The lion has the heart. Straight from a Disney movie or what. Yeah, I think so. That's right. He has more heart. Did you not watch Lion King or what? Did you not watch Lion King? I mean, they smelled it out for you. That's pretty much science. Well, you know what's funny? You're not wrong. I mean, you don't know that you're not wrong, but you're not wrong. What makes you think I don't know that? Lion King comes accidentally, right? I knew that. What does that mean? More heart. What does heart mean, right? The fight to the death. The fight to the death, right? Lions have to fight a lot in nature. They're very territorial and they fight each other all the time. Tigers are more solitary. They don't have a lot of competition either. They're sneakier. They're more... I don't know about that. They're sneakier. They hunt ninjas. They're sneaky when they hunt. They're sneaky bastards. They can pounce something, dude, and just let's see how this goes. No, lions... That's not true. Lions kind of chill a little bit, and they let their wives... Yeah, they sleep, and then they, like, kill. The lions are there just to fight each other for the poon tang, for the lioness tang. That's true. That's all they do. They fight for tang. They do. You know what I mean? They don't even kill things anymore. Not really. Not really. Unless shit really goes down, they get off the couch. They're like, all right. Fine. I'll kill the wildebeest. Otherwise, they don't. They just fight each other. Yeah. You know what I mean? So that's what makes them so tough. And, yep. So it's that whole... What's that saying? It's not the size of the fight in the dog with the size of the... No, no. It's not the size of the dog in the fight. Whatever. It's the size of the fight in the dog. It was a t-shirt. Thank you, Nat Geo. Yeah. That was a t-shirt. We ruined that quote. Remember those t-shirts? Hey, big dog... Was it a t-shirt? Were they called big dog? Oh, big dog? Yeah. Yeah, I remember those. Yeah, big dog shirts. At the same time, it's super popular. Yeah. We need to bring those back. I think so. I like the big Johnson one. The big Johnson one would fit better. Those are hilarious. It was a word... Don't make their way back around. Do not... I mean, history repeats itself. We already see every other fucking trend coming around. Like, somebody's gonna be like, I'm gonna make shirts about dicks, but I'm gonna... Yeah. Make it kind of different. I'm gonna call it a Johnson instead, and then that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna call ours big dicks, and it's gonna be a dude named Dick. Big Johnson. Drivers. Super. Super. The styles end. They end. They never repeat. Really? Yes. Like what? If a style is associated with a horrible... Oh, yeah, like Hitler stash? Yes. Exactly what I... You just can't do it. Charlie Chaplin tried. The Hitler stash died with Hitler. Like, he killed that style. It'll never come back. That's like the only example I can think of. Yeah. And I don't know how true it is, because we don't live over there. You know what I'm saying? Maybe over there there's more Hitler stashes than we think. No. Don't we guys feel like we should take it back, you know? The Hitler stash? Yeah, you start. No, you start. I feel like somebody else, it's not a white guy. So it was a little more color? You should do it. Yeah. Just a little more color. Bring power back to it. A Jewish guy. Yeah, a Jewish guy. She should rock it, yeah. But no, he killed that style. And he, you know... Okay, so that's just one example. It's a bad example, dude. It's a... It's a bad example. It's a mustache style. The extreme. Close-wise, always recircles, or circles back around. At least, there's still... I mean, some styles are different, but it's like skinny jeans. Skinny jeans are almost exactly like what it was in the 80s to peg your jeans in the tight fit. Yeah. The floodwater. Yeah. Now we've actually made a style out of it. We call them skinny jeans, and we act like it's a whole new thing, but it's really not. I used to peg my pants when I was in like... I know. 5th and 6th grade, don't you? Nobody... I mean, are you pegging your pants right now? No, they're rolled. That's a regular foot roll. They're rolled. What is your favorite style of jeans on women? Tight ones. Well, hold on. That was creepy. No. So you mean like skinny all the way down, like taper at the bottom, like skinny like... Fit it the whole way. Yeah. Really? Fit it from the hastily. I like... Paint them on. Paint them on. I like seeing the ankles. Okay, so tight all the way down. Yeah. I kind of like bell bottoms, so I love that flared bottom. Of course you do. What do you mean a course? No, I just... You have the 70s vibe about you. I do a little bit. That's very 70s vibe. Bell bottoms? Bell bottoms? No, bro. Oh, they're fucking hot, dude. Like the flower power. Yeah, like the flared bottom. What about... Clogs and all that shit. What about the waist? Do you like high waisted jeans or low rise? So I like low and I know the style right now is bringing back the high waist. I don't like the high waist. I don't like high waist either. You know what it reminds me of? High waisted jeans reminds me of like grandma's. You know how grandmas always wear the pants real high? Yeah, right? To tuck in the fupa or whatever. That's what I feel like they're trying to smash it all in. Although, what they did... See, again, here's where the trend comes around but now they're like... They cut their short... They weigh their high waist and then they cut the shorts like super short so your ass cheeks are hanging out. So I'm kind of pro at that. Yeah, you know. Compromise. You know... If you get a high waisted, then you low bottom it. It's weird though. It looks like you have low bottom it. It looks like it's too... You bottom cheek it. Almost like you gave someone a wedgie. I like the low... Yeah, like you pulled it up too high and then it took the ass cheeks. You know what it is? I find a woman's midsection very attractive, like below the belly button area. Like that part of the midsection's hot and when they wear the high waisted jeans, you can't see that. Well, I think that was why the style came was it allows them to kind of hide and disguise some things. Yeah, tuck it in. It's lazy. Like I said, you tuck in the fupa. Is that again? I want to bring like belly button rings back. You know what I mean? Why they were gone? I don't know. They're still here. They're still here. My chick still has belly button ring. My girl has... Yeah. Oh, wow. She don't flaunt it. She doesn't do a lot of belly shirts. Not for dudes. She doesn't wear a lot of belly shirts around you guys. My girl has a belly ring. I love them. Yeah, I like them. I think they're very sexy. Yeah. Piercings in general are attractive. In general. Not total. How many guys you know that have had a belly button ring? I knew a guy. I knew a guy too, right? What the hell? That's when it first became in style. Right. And nobody had decided yet it was a girl thing. No, I decided... No, it was obvious. Tongue rings now are almost completely a girl thing. You don't see too many guys with them, right? Yeah. But for a second there, dudes were getting them too. That's a good point. That is a good point. When tongue rings first hit the... Whatever, you know. They definitely... There was some guys... There was some dudes... Yeah. There was... Yeah, there was quite a few dudes that were rocking it too. What's your favorite piercing? No. On a girl? Yeah, on a girl. Yeah. Well, I mean that there's a difference, right? Yeah, on a girl, what's your favorite piercing? I want me... You have to pick one. You have to pick one? You have to pick one. I like nose piercings. Yeah, me too. I do. Yeah. Now do you like the... You're talking about the side though, not in the middle. I do not like the middle. You know... I do not like the middle. As you say, either ears or nipples. Not even... I do not like the middle. It just... You look like a bull. Yeah. You look like a fucking... Like a bull. That's a bull on it. Yeah, no, it's not sexy. It's... The irony of that though is just it's... I like a nose ring that much that I... It would be my favorite piercing on a female. But just by shifting it from the center to the side already makes a huge difference for me. It's weird. That's weird. Eyebrow up here in the corner. You know, eyebrow doesn't... That one doesn't bother me. No, it doesn't look bad. Nose ring for me and I like a hoop in the nose. So stud looks cool, but the hoop looks good. And the middle one, it's growing on me. It's growing on me. Really? Yeah, it's growing on me. It sucks. The middle one's growing on me. Do not... There's nothing. I don't like anything about it. I'm starting to like the middle one a little bit, but the side one I find very attractive. Yeah, side one. Side one with you. I like both the little small loop or a stud. Both look good. Depends on what you're wearing. My girl has two. She wears a stud and then a hoop. When she's, you know, not coming over my family's house. You gotta get her all conservative. No, you know what's funny? Hide the tattoos. No ring. When we first started dating. That's funny. Your parents are in that old school. In a business suit. So here's the thing about my family. They're really... Mine used to be, but not anymore. So my family is... How can they be? Yeah, I paved the way for the rest of the kids. Didn't you have your nipples pierced at one point? No, I did not have my nipples pierced. No, I didn't. I thought you did. My ears are pierced. You never had your nipples pierced? No, no, no. I have sensitive nipples. Don't touch my nipples. Don't touch my nipples. Don't touch my face. That's ammo. That's ammo. So my family's interesting in the sense that they're conservative and traditional, but then they're also super loving and open. So at first they'll dred you, but then they'll like you. So you got to get past that initial... It's like a wall that you have to climb. Yeah, you got to get past that initial whatever. So when my girlfriend first met my parents, okay, first it was like the first level, which was my parents. Then there's the second level, which is my grandparents and then my aunts and uncles. And then there's the third level, which she hasn't met yet, because we haven't had a big, like super big family function yet, where she meets all these extended cousins and stuff. So initially I told her, you're gonna go to my mom's house. She's like a maze. I'm like, you know, just wear a stud, but don't wear the hoop yet, which kind of piss her off, because so me and her have a lot in common. She's very much like me where she understands certain things. She's gonna rebel. But don't tell her what to do. Right. So I made that mistake a little bit. So we kind of got into a thing and I'm like, listen, it's not, you know, whatever. So she's cool with it, but now it's not a big deal. Now she'll wear... Whatever. Yeah, whatever. Fuck it. Uh-huh. But no, I like the... You know what I don't like? I'll tell you what piercing I don't like at all. It's not growing on me at all. Is the fucking gauge big ol' hole in the ear? Yeah. It just doesn't... And you still see it too, which is interesting. Bro. I mean, some of my friends and like, when I was in a band, that was like the thing, like some guys in the band had like, started gauging it out and then really stretching it. But have you ever seen one that like when they remove it, it's just like floppy, deflated, long... Looks like an onion ring. Yeah, it's like... It looks like you could go fishing with it. You know what also... Stick your ear in there. Imagine also you're getting a tussle with someone. Oh, God. I'll shred that for two seconds. Dude, listen, I'm telling you right now, if you ever fuck with me and you have a big-ass hole in your ear, I promise I'll grab it. It's like a deflated onion ring. Yeah, for sure. I'm using that as a grip. Right, right. It's an advantage. Could you imagine, like someone had a big gauge like that with it's like a silver dollar size and you get your fingers in there and you grab a hole. Yeah. It's just so sturdy. You would probably rip right through it. For sure you would. Imagine all the crud that's in there. Dad, imagine how much that would hurt, dude. That would hurt. I'd rip that fucker. Because even just grabbing someone's ear, pinching someone's ear and pulling it, like that hurts right there. Getting inside and then hooking down like that. Well, when it's a big-ass hole, you put a couple fingers in that bad boy. That's what I'm saying. That would hurt like a motherfucker. That's the first place I'd go. Fish hook it. You know what I mean? There's no rules. Yeah, I'm not a fan of that either. But yeah, in general, it's getting so popular, tattoos and piercings that it's already happened now. I hate to say this, because I know you guys are all tatted out. You're lame. No, you guys could never be lame. No matter what you guys do, you could never be lame. Well, we already know this. Because I love you guys, right? But when you see like, there's some fucking dorks now. I blame the hipsters for fucking that up for us. It's horrible. Yeah. They try and take all the cool stuff that used to be all masculine and badass. And then it's just like, it doesn't mean the same anymore. Bro, I've seen like more, I hate to say it, dude, like low testosterone, weak sauce dudes with big ass beards and sleeves than I see now without. Now if I see that, I'm like instantly thinking like, they're tortured artists or something. Yeah, dude. You know what I mean? Let me sing you this acoustic song real quick. Which sucks for guys like us who've had tattoos for a really long time. Yeah. And it was different. There's one guy in particular. I'm not going to say who it is. I don't want to say too much because they might be listening, but we've looked at their videos and dude is a genuine, genuine for real dork. Yeah. That means a lot coming from you. Sleeve the fuck up. Yeah, right. If Sal calls you a dork, you're a major dork. I know I'm a dork, No, you're not. But you're cool. Yes. But you can identify it better than us. I'm just a chameleon. I can play all over. This person is for sure stuck in that dork category. Yeah. For reals like big time insecure dork. Right. Tat it up. Yeah. It's just terrible. I know. So then in a situation like that, it's like overcompensating, right? Like it's trying to be look tougher than what you really are deep down inside. Yeah. I mean. But you can see through it. That's the thing. I'm just still going to get more. Well, you could, I mean, you could argue everything that we do is somewhat of a mask, right? The fact that we wear clothes. You know what I'm saying? Right. We all wear clothes. That's good. Yeah. Make it like everybody else. Well, you could, right? I mean, it sounds like we're ragging on it. People that have, that are hipsters and have tattoos, but it's like you could argue almost anyway that our way we clothe ourselves is a way to disguise or hide or whatever. It's funny, isn't it? Because in the... We don't wear it for fucking real. Well, bro, in the 80s, the same kind of guy, like the same kind of hipster guy, right? So if you took the hipster today and you brought him back to the 80s, he'd be wearing makeup. Yeah. Like eye shadow. He'd be look like the cure. Yes. Oh, you think the hipster kids are like all the emo kids from fucking the 80s? Yes. Yes. Oh, really? I think it's the same people. So I think hipsters are the... Just listen to the Smiths. The evolution of metrosexuals. Metrosexuals too, though. Yeah. That was the next progression. That was like the 90s after 80s, 90s or metro. That's right. Yeah. Two thousands were getting hipsters. And it's all about... I don't know. And it's all about trying to get more attention from women. It's always... Everything we do for as men... It's peacocking. We're always peacocking. And women... It's human nature. And for whatever reasons... It's a uniform, dude. Whether we... I mean, you could argue that about my cars, right? My car is a form of peacocking and advertising yourself, right? Yeah. That's what I mean. Again, we could pick apart all of us. Oh, yeah. It always revolves down to sex. But you're right. I do believe that... Tattoo... Tattoo is we watched the evolution go from 20, 30 years ago. 30 years ago, it was like, you must have been in prison if you had a tattoo. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Then it went to... Or my wife's grandma. You're the furniture mover. And I'm just like, oh... I don't know. That felt wrong. I'm sure all the guys with teardrops underneath their eye were calling me a pussy fucking 15 years ago when I first got tattooed. I wasn't tough enough. For me, it's just like, you gotta be at least in one bar fight. Dude, if you've been in a bar fight, you could get a tattoo. Wasn't your first tattoo the barbed wire arms? Yes, dude. That's so awesome. I didn't know it. Fuck off, dude. That was before Pamela. It was before Pamela. See? Right before, though. That's the problem. Like right before. That was the problem. Oh, it was like less than six months, dude. She had a whole show. That show Barbed Wire came out. That show came out and everybody said, you wouldn't get a Pamela Anderson tattoo. Fuck, dude. Motherfucker. He just said he did. Probably for 10 years, I used to get to argue with people that I had at first and it was like fucking just, now I'm just like, yeah, you know, Pamela got it. Then I wanted to get, I was a big Pamela Anderson fan. Whatever. Fucking own it. She's hot. Fuck you. That tattoo was clearly you're trying to be cool. It was 100%. Oh, 100%. I'm 17, turning 18. My parents, that was also me rebelling, right? Actually, more than me being cool, I think it was actually more about rebelling then. Like I didn't like get the Bob Barbed Wire like, this is fucking cool, man. Yeah. It was more like, I'm getting a tattoo because my parents fucking said I can't. They don't want me to. Right, exactly. For me, a lot of what I did was rebelling from my parents because I had such a conservative home. So I think it was more of that than being cool, which is also why I've left it, right? So when I did my sleeve, he asked me if I wanted to cover it up. And I'm like, no, I want to leave it. I want to leave it because it's a reminder of who I was when I was 18. You can't see it though, can you? No, you absolutely can. Yeah, it's not covered up. But he easily could have covered up and you would have never seen it. I could say now all my tattoos are awesome. But it's like, I put that on there as a reminder of that. That was me. That was a kid rebelling from his parents. And so it's like also for me to be aware of that side of me, right? I made a mistake on mine because I only have one, right? It's on my back. The dolphin jumping through the hoop. Yeah. Such a good one. It's powerful. The three butterflies, they represent hope, love and acceptance. No, I have... That sounded too real. Dude, I... You've thought about this. No, I have the symbol of Sicily which is called a trenacria. And it's the head of Medusa and Three Legs, right? But when I wanted it and I wanted something to represent where my family is from. And so I went online and I looked up the symbol and I saw the ancient symbols and then randomly someone had drawn a kind of tribal version of it, right? So I'm like, that's fucking cool. I want to get that. So I got it. Not thinking that it's on the internet. A lot of other Sicilian dudes are going to go on and see the same thing in school. I've seen three fucking people the exact same tattoos. Oh, no way, really? That happened with my cross and thorns. It was like, I saw it like a band had it and I'm like, duh. If a band has it, is there like symbol? Well, you think that like, you know, a gajillion other people has like the same thing and I would go to like these shows and see people with that, like on their leg, on their back, and I'm like, fuck. Do you remember? It's so unoriginal. Do you remember your parents' reaction when you first showed them? Justin? Like, irate. That bad? Fucking horrible. My dad was debating on kicking me out of the house. And I'm like, I am in college. Go for it, you know? I waited at least till I was out of high school to do it and yeah, my dad was like, that was the big threat forever. It was like, anything I did was like, you're gonna get kicked out of the house, you know? And so I was like, well, fine. You know, now it doesn't matter. So I'm gonna do it. You know, let that be a lesson, right? As a parent, you know what I mean? That kids will rebel if you push too hard. Oh, absolutely. Oh, I rebelled so hard on my parents when I was 17 that I was, I literally vowed, I think I went months, dude, months of sitting at the dinner table and not speaking to my family and telling them like, when I'm out, I'm never coming back. And I fucking 100% believed in my head that when I left, I was that angry as a 17-year-old from them being so hard on me and pushing the other direction. And if it wasn't for, and I've never really actually asked my mom if her and my stepdad had this conversation or not because they did like a 180 when it came down to the last six months that I was living in the house. And it was like, you know, then all of a sudden I had all this freedom no real curfew, just let us know where you're at. I'm like, what the fuck? Where did this all come from? And it kind of won me over enough to be like, okay, if my parents can change, whatever, like that, then we were fine. But, man, I was, I literally was like, I didn't stop speaking to them. They picked up on your energy. Oh, yeah, dude. I knew you were serious. Oh, I was. It was fucking, it was like the hardest thing in the world. I'm a talker, you know what I'm saying? So I like to communicate. Imagine sitting at fucking dinner table after dinner table with family at dinner every night together, man. So you were a little shit. Oh, I was angry, dude. I was angry. They took my car from me, man. They took my cheater. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, that was. No, I showed when I got mine. I was like 26 or 27 when I got mine. So I'm like full on adult. I came, I went to my parents' house for dinner. And I, first I showed my dad. And my dad looks at it and he goes, he starts laughing. He goes, well, that's kind of cool. You know, it's Sicily or whatever. He goes, have you shown your mom yet? And I'm like, no. He's like, whatever. All right. We'll see what happens. So we're at dinner and I tell my mom, I said, mom, pull my shirt down. She's like, why? I'm like, just pull it down. I want you to see something. She's like, what's on your back? I'm like, just pull it. So she pulls it down. She looks at it and she goes, she hits me and pushes me away. She goes, it's fake. I'm like, no, it's real. That's what my parents are like. I got a real tattoo. She goes, no, it's not. It's fake. And she kind of turns around and said, mom, it's real. Touch it. Like it's still scabbed or whatever. She pulls it down. She goes, I'm going to go throw up and she like runs off. Like she literally got nauseous. How disappointed she was. Oh no. Dude, the fake thing though, I totally played off of that and like told them it was a henna tattoo for as long as I could. And my brother threw me under the bus. He's like, you've been in a lot of showers. It's a real tattoo. Just, you know, stop lying. And I'm like, dude, come on, man. I was totally like, they're buying it. What the fuck's wrong with you? Yeah. Oh, I'm so mad. He always threw me under the bus. That's the thing. Speaking of the shit like that, it's throwing people under the bus. As you guys see, what's his name? Oh boy, who did a YouTube and made a YouTube making fun of us. Oh, yeah. What's his name? Alan Thrall. Is that his name? Yeah, yeah. I've never even heard of the guy. Yeah. He's got like 400,000 subscribers. Actually, he made. He's like Riptoe's like number one or number one or number two. He's like his right hand guy. Totally, right? To his credit, the video he made was awesome. Awesome. It was so over. So people on the forum were like, you guys need to have him on the show and have it out. I'm like, there's no disagreement here. Yeah. Exactly what we did to him, he turned around and did to us and he did it in a funny way. I thought it was fucking great, man. He was jabbing. We took cues from starting strength and I. And how they can cause lots of confusion. Right. And how they can cause confusion and I exaggerated them. I don't really think that Mark Riptoe fucking cues people to lift up their back like that. I was showing the exaggeration to show that this cue. Well, you're showing how some people lose their cues wrong. Right. If you tell someone to cue up from their hips, this is what tends to happen, I took out a context. What Mark Riptoe said. I didn't. Jordan technically did. Yeah. But I laughed it and I fucking totally provoked it. Knowing damn well that would stir shit up. And then he came back and explained himself. I thought it was fucking hilarious. It was great. And he did the same thing with us. He took all the cues that we said and the little sound bites from us. And he did the same thing. And did the same thing. So it's like there's nothing to argue and debate. The guy's a smart dude. I totally agree with his points that he made. They're totally valid. He took something out of context. We took something out of context. And it was all, to me, it was all good fun. Yeah, no, I actually appreciate it. I think he brought us a bunch of subscribers. He's impressive. Yeah, exactly. Right, right. I don't mind. I will say this about Alan. You got to do something with that beard, bro. It's fucking weird. It's like neck beard. What are you doing there? Other than that, good job on the video. Yeah. We were dying about it. That was hilarious. No, because Jordan comes in to do some stuff with us. And he's pissed off. Jordan's kind of like mad. Like, what the fuck? Yeah. And we watch it and we just start cracking up. We were like lunatics. Yeah, he's like, you guys are crazy. Yeah. Why are you guys laughing? It was hilarious. It's good. If you make fun of me in a funny way that's smart. Yes. I'm going to shake your hand. I'm the same way too. Absolutely. I'm like, to me, there is no, there's no animosity. And that's, of course, we, if I were to get angry over something like that, then I'm no better than all these camps that we talk shit about that could become dogmatic. Like, I'm not dogmatic about my way. Like, I'm pointing out cues that you guys talk about all the time that I think some type of people should know that when you cue that, you can get this. That was all the point. That's the point of it. Wasn't to say, everything in starting strength is bad. You're wrong. We're right. It's not a camp thing. I think if you go back in our old episodes, that's one of the books that we recommend. We recommend to read the book. That's what I'm saying. The guy was like, oh, you've never, no, actually we have read the book and it's actually a great book, but this was just something. One of our top strength books. Right, right. So I just, you know, I think if to get angry over something like that, you know what, if he was, I felt like if he was attacking my name or he was being, if he was bashing us like that, totally different, but he made fun of us and it was fucking very well edited. Yeah, I know. It was hilarious. I must have watched the seven minute mark over like five times. There's that one part. There's this one part where Adam, I think you're going to show right now. It's at seven minutes. Where Adam laughs. Yeah, it's at seven minutes. And then he has that one dude. He's got some big old, he has some like skinny bucktooth black guy laughing on the couch. To make fun of Adam's laugh? Yeah, to make fun of my laugh. I feel like I've seen him on Tosh.0. He's like a character. I fell over laughing at least. Yeah, right there. Yeah. Oh, that was so good. You know what? I wish I had the time to edit like this, because if I had the time to edit like this, I would so do one back like making fun of him, having fun with it, like making fun of his beard and shit and like just have a good time with it. Oh yeah. But unfortunately, I don't know. Yeah, we'd all be like ZZ Top, you know, breaking it down. Yeah, it is something. I'm pumped on his on his YouTube page and all those that we're looking for a fight over it. There's no fight man. How many views it's got. 56,000 views. Yeah, no, it's it's double from yesterday already. Not bad. Not bad at all. Good times. Anyhow, so shall we shall we bring? Isn't this episode airing like a couple days before New Year's Eve or when are we doing this? Yeah, it's airing on the Friday before New Year's Eve. Thank God. Let's get into this new year. Well, I was going to say to help yourself the day after. I will recommend I'm going to do a little plug for one of our sponsors. The four, if you take the Raishi, the Chaga and the lion's mane and you have that throughout the day, the day after it should help with the symptoms. Should you do the day of drinking and the day after? So I would go Raishi the night of. So when you go when you finally do go to sleep, drink some Raishi after, of course, they hydrated, do all that other stuff because nothing you take is going to help you dehydrate it, which happens a lot with water comes first, then water comes first, don't eat too much garbage, all that kind of stuff. But the day after have some lion's mane, some Chaga and some Raishi again. And that should help some of the symptoms of that brain fog or headache or just feeling like that general malaise that you get the day after. What is it in that actually does that? Is it? So lion's mane increases BDNF in the brain, which is neuro protective. So it's helping the brains from some of the damage that you may have caused with the alcohol. Chaga's got immunomodulating effects. Sometimes alcohol can cause or many times can cause inflammatory effects secondary from kind of an immune reaction. And then Raishi is over is just a general adaptogen relaxing. So a lot of times what people will notice when they drink or after they drink is that they'll have increased symptoms of things like anxiety. So they'll feel more anxious or heart palpitations or they'll just feel you want to curl up in the fetal position and cry. They'll just feel bad the next day. And really, people realize this alcohol when you drink a lot throws off your neuro transmitters quite a bit. And so that's one of the reasons why you'll feel maybe even depressed the day after drinking. And so those those three mushrooms can help balance those things out and can help. And this is all, you know, now we're talking this is how I was. This is how I would use it. I can't enjoy it every single day but I definitely would use it like that for sure. So literally the day after in the morning you know you can blend the three of them up together and have yourself a nice little drink and then you know wait a second and see if you feel better. There you go. And because it's New Year's is a couple days out I've got something from Thrive Market for us. Oh yes. More unboxing. Yeah. Excellent. Did you get my organic underwear? What's in the box though? Your edible underwear? No. Thrive makes edible underwear now? Whoa. Amazing. Must be eaten after worn. Gross. Gross. Alright guys. Look at this. Oh yes. We got Moscow Mule Cups. They have Moscow Mule Cups there? They do. And they're like only like six bucks a piece. Are they real copper? They're not real copper. I don't know. They look like real copper. Wow. That's what I'm doing in New Year's Eve. Dude, what a great call. Doug. So I got six of them so if anybody happens to be visiting we can share. Now when we travel to our houses we can just bring our own fucking Moscow Mule Cups. Well here's the thing we're going out of town tomorrow. Yes. Hey let's take these. You know what? I'm thinking I got to create a new recipe like the mind pump mule or something. Yes. Let's take real copper to me. On the inside. Looks like real copper for sure. Yeah you know what you got there Doug? Some snacks because you know as long as you're drinking Moscow Mules you might as well have some more of these Cricket Churps Barbecue Flavored Oh I really like these dude. I know you guys do. We got kale chips from Rhythm Superfoods Oh I like those. Zesty Nachos Those are the ones I always eat right there. Zesty Nacho Kale Chips So here's the only thing I don't like about kale chips. They get all up in your teeth. Yeah that's the one downside but they're really delicious. Really delicious. And then we got we got buffalo meat with cranberries and then buffalo meat with cranberries and pepper blend. So why don't you just leave those there Doug Don't hand them to Justin. Yes. Don't hand them to Justin. Listen. No I'm not handing any of this food to you guys because last time I did that it sounded like a bunch of animals jumping in the microphone. Sorry about that. You know what I want to do since we're being consistent with this and we're starting to pile up all these fucking wonderful bags all over the place is keep one of those boxes and like always put it like make that our like the cornucopia. Yeah that's our fucking what do you call those pantry. That's our pantry. So we start keeping all our shit in there and then you pull you want to put it back in otherwise I've been going around taking all these bags it's getting kind of like Adam's like the housewife of the Mime Pop too. Dude I'm a fucking neat freak dude. We got to do it. You know we got to living with fucking four 14 year old girls you know what it is. I have to have a conversation with Justin. I don't think so because it's a hormone thing. Well no it's he cleans up after us. Because he's like the Mime Pop housewife. Right. But now he's feeling underappreciated. Yeah he is. We need to do something for him. Yeah because I want him to know I'll massage him while you do something. I want him to know we feel we feel appreciative that he's important. He is. What he's doing is very valuable. Let me help you out with some flowers. Let me help you out with flowers. Pick your fucking shit up. I don't want to look like a dorm room in here. Damn you. We have it. We have like a we can't be like oh yeah. We'll scramble and clean like two minutes. Christina's gangster she knows how we are. Well in our defense I know that we've been grinding a lot lately so we've been running some long long days which has been fucking up my fucking workout routine right now man. You gotta do what I do in the morning bro first thing. I know I know I'm trying to train myself to be that guy man. It's just this is a a rougher time than usual for me to get the muster up motivation there to try and do that. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organifi fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic super foods to help give your health the performance the added edge. Try Organifi totally risk free for 60 days by going to organifi.com that's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I dot com and use a coupon code MINEPOMP for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Cyrus T. Foo is undulating calorie intake helpful while in a building phase or is it really just a tool for fat loss? Oh, absolutely. So that's actually Cyrus. Shut the fuck up. That's what STFU stands for, right? Who's, okay. Is that what that stands for? Sure. STFU. All right. So, I have no idea. So, yeah, absolutely. You know why so, oh shit. Arguably more. There was a a study was just published. I haven't, I haven't told people where to find these studies up until now and I'm not going to start. So anyway, I read a study. You posted on the form though, didn't you? I believe I did. Yeah, no, you did. And that's, again, this is where the value of the form, if you're somebody who constantly, because I always feel for Sal because he does get this, this is part of being, this is the great part for Justin Isons. We don't fucking remember studies like he does. Yeah. You know, it's everybody wants to know exactly where it comes from. Like, dude, so then to ask. Just comes up in conversation and then it's like, but a lot of times he does and then he posts them on the forum. So, and then we talk about them later. So you, but what's great is if you're on the form, you can search that. You can literally search a topic and anything that's been discussed around that topic, there's probably not only a study, then there's a thread of all of us communicating on show notes, you know, you might have links and extensions. Get your ass on the form. You still have, you still have two weeks left. I found the study. It was actually in 2017. It's in PubMed. The title of the study is intermittent energy restriction improves weight loss efficiency in obese men. So basically what they did is they, you know, in a nutshell, so I'm not going to give you the specifics, but in a nutshell, rather than keeping people in a consistent core deficit, caloric deficit, they did this up and down caloric deficit. So the person was in a deficit for a couple weeks, then they'd have a few days or a week where they had a great maintenance or a little bit above, then went back down. Over a period of time, a long period of time, the people, I'll read the conclusion, greater weight and fat loss was achieved with intermittent energy restriction. Interrupting energy restriction with energy balance rest periods may reduce compensatory, metabolic responses and in turn, improve weight loss efficiency. In other words, protein calories prevents the slowing down of the metabolism when you're cutting. Now, let's talk about bulking. Same thing applies. Exactly. The only difference now is that you're over-saturating, right? That's right. You're flooding your system with more protein, more carbs, more than you need because that's what most people do when they're bulking. 100%, one of the best things I ever did was put this together and it took me a long time to put this together because of my insecurities, right? Exactly. And we come from a background of being afraid of losing muscle falling off your body so I would much rather overdo it than underdo it but in reality, I was actually shooting myself in the foot and if I allowed myself to have some of those low-calorie days, it was more beneficial. My body responded better the next day. In fact, you'll notice this if you've ever gone on a real bulk and I'm not talking about the bulk where you just eat a bunch of garbage but where you bump your calories, you're really trying to gain muscle, that first man, your strength goes up, you're getting better pumps, like you're noticing you're building muscle, if you keep pushing it, your weight still goes up on the scale so it fucks people off as we just look at the scale and we think, oh, I'm gaining weight on the scale. You actually start to gain body fat at a higher rate than you do muscle and that's always been one of the challenges with bulking is how do I gain lean body mass and how do I not gain just tons of body fat? Well, one of the best ways you do that is by cycling or underlating go on a bulk for, you know, bump your calories, 500, 600, 700 calories above maintenance for a week and then drop them down to maintenance or even a slight deficit for a few days and then repeat or two weeks on one week off type of deal and what you'll find is you'll gain more lean body mass than if you didn't do that in the first place just like losing body fat. I could always see what pros understood this concept and which ones didn't when I was competing because, you know, you're on the circuit for a few years and you start to see the same guys kind of shows and like, you know and each show their physique would look almost exactly the same the same or sometimes not as conditioned and it would always be like, oh, it wasn't conditioned enough and it's like but their physique wasn't changing I'm like, if you're building and you're doing stuff like each show you should be presenting kind of another a better physique whatever that whatever that may be but when you don't understand this this piece they're presenting the same physique they put on a bunch they put on 30 pounds during bulk season and sure out of that 30 pounds 10 of it was muscle but then 20 of it was body fat so then when they then they go to their cut to lose their 20 pounds of fat they also end up shredding the 10 pounds of muscle that they added during that bulk too because they had to push so hard to cut and they just they go from one extreme to the other and it's like then you just end up presenting the same physique all the time just forget lifting weights even if you're not lifting weights bumping your calories initially in a lot of people it's been shown will actually initially cause a little bit of muscle gain and even people who are sedentary very small amount but they'll gain a little bit initially but let's say you're lifting weights because this we're talking about people working out if you're lifting weights and you're doing it properly you are sending a muscle building signal to your body that says we need to prioritize strength now when I bump up my calories that muscle building signal is still there so now my body is thinking awesome build lots more muscle but if I keep my calories high consistently for too long my body is going to think surplus of calories we've got the muscle that we need what we what we should do is start to store these calories start to store these calories as body fat because that's always that's always something that's in the back of your body's mind if you will the next goal is your body's always trying to keep you in this kind of survival like optimal survival mode it's advantageous for it to do that because it doesn't know in five months you may not have any food famine's going to come around your body's always trying to prepare you for any situation so what happens if you go in a bulk and then you reduce a little bit your body becomes resensitized to them when you throw it back on now your body wants to build more muscle someone who let me tell you something I understand bulking hardcore I know when you bulk a long time it starts to suck it really fucking starts to suck it's like painful you're forcing yourself to eat you don't want to eat you got to drink water a lot to wash the food down it sucks when you undulate it doesn't suck it feels great if I go on a bulk for a week and a half for two weeks and then I do four or five days of maintenance I go back to bulk and my appetite's back well I also think that you can learn to if you're already if you understand the concept and the benefits of undulating your calories during a bulk then you can also get really smart strategic and this is where this comes to play right and we always talk about how food timing meal timing is low in the total pull but if you understand how to undulate your calories really well then you start like boom this is going to be my higher calorie day and then tomorrow you know what we're going to be driving we're traveling and not going to be moving a lot and stuff like that like what a great day for me to drop a little a really low calorie day match it to your energy right and so then really minimize the amount of body fat you're putting on and really maximize the amount of muscle you build by feeding the body when it needs the most amount I think is when you're sitting still and you're not moving a lot those were the bad habits come you're sitting still psychological cravings yes and in reality that's if there's a time when you should be restricting your body's not it's not moving it doesn't need any fuel right that's right I have a lot of fun with this in the following way so I'll say to myself like okay you know today I'm eating more calories so the intense to get more calories nutrient dense food so I'm going to be eating you know more rice or lamb I'll have some vegetables that kind of stuff but then when I go into my low calorie days I'm thinking okay it's low calorie I'm going to focus on longevity on these days right so this is your vegan day or something like that this may be a vegan day where I salads and shit where I eat a lot I eat a lot of vegetables I just eat a lot of vegetables I reduce or cut or even eliminate my meat consumption or this is when I'll do a prolonged fast not necessarily because I'm trying to cut but because I'm trying to take advantage of the health benefits and it's going to be a low calorie day anyway and then that's what I'm not trying to match that with your high intensity workout I find teaching this to clients too they like it because it gives them like different targets it's not always the same thing it's like hey listen we know that you're not working out on Saturday so what I actually want you to do is we're going to go vegan all day long and I want you to try and get at least four to five servings of vegetables and have some healthy fats on there and butter and do those things and then we're going to come back and we're going to have a calorie spike and then you get this many calories like I think giving them these different goals and targets I think it makes it so much easier than this like same meal plan makes them more interesting anyway it only makes sense it only makes sense there's no way in hell that humans evolved in a state where or in an environment where food was the same all the time I mean for the most human civilization it was always undulating I mean we evolved to six back bags exactly so knowing that we evolved that way the bodies probably adapted to be an optimal health in performance in that kind of an environment of undulating calories and macros and all that I remember when I first stumbled upon this it was a long time ago and so I don't remember who it was they convinced me to have a vegan day and I think it had to do with my gut issues and so I did I had a vegan day and I thought oh this is going to suck I'm not going to have that much protein or whatever because I was still having a vegan day then the following day what I normally would eat and I'll never forget I worked out the following the day after that so it's two days later and I was like I felt like I had come off of a long cut like I got that bulk that muscle building feeling I got a crazy pump I remember thinking like is it because I had a vegan day so then I would repeat it again I remember every time I would do that and I'd refeed I'd get these crazy amazing workouts and I started piecing it together like my body is just primed for that food because I had that low calorie day you know the day before so definitely recommend doing this if you're trying to gain or lose Katie Taylor Fit if the end goal is building muscle with the intent of competing do you think it is better to squat with shoes or plates under your heels or use less weight but train your ankles to squat barefoot how long do you think it would take to gain more ankle mobility the intent here is competing right so this is the ultimate goal right now so all of a sudden if you can use squat shoes in your competition those are conflicting interests they are conflicting and I think if if you can now this I've seen so I saw who asked this picture she's a I think bikini competitor so she's trying to compete on stage not in oh I thought it was like powerlifting not her oh well totally different then totally different like yeah if you were gonna be competing in powerlifting and you're allowed to use a belt and squat shoes you would highly recommend using belt and squat shoes you want to train with your tool yeah you want to you want to train with it and you want to get good at that skill that you want to master but a bikini competitor no oh man no I mean again though work on the ankle mobility first before you get to barefoot squatting if you've been squatting in squat shoes or you've been in heels or you don't you can't even break 90 all of a sudden going barefoot and progressively bring that that angle down as far as like the height you know of your ankle just progressively don't just all of a sudden go straight down to the ground expect that's what I mean to go from if you're already squatting in a squat shoe and then you think because we hear from us talk about oh squatting barefoot so good for you also you go all the way that's too fat I mean it took me about a year a year of working on ankle mobility being a guy who only could squat in a squat shoes to hit depth to somebody that's hard for people to comprehend but it's true yeah no it really takes that long no it took me a fucking year bro it took me a year to be a guy who if I wanted to hit good depth I had to be in squat shoes I did not have the ankle mobility I didn't have the hip mobility I didn't have any of it and like that was having the heel rise made a huge difference for me and I remember when you introduced it to me yeah now I have a question though so I'm going to pose a bit of a conundrum here let's say with squat shoes you are able to squat with you're able to fully max out and exert your thighs your quads your hamstrings and your glutes and you can squat with whatever I don't know 225 pounds when you take the squat shoes you're trying to work on ankle mobility you obviously have to you have to go lighter right because the limiting factor now is your foot and ankle mobility the limiting factor no longer is how much weight so you handled the same way that I did which was I started off with you know from a guy who was always squatting in squat shoes I still did it I still did it while I was trying to progress out of it so I but it was now there like a safety precaution or like so anytime I would start to challenge the weight or any area where you would compromise that's where they would go back on my feet they go back on my feet because I know that this is a heavier load than I'm used to like you're saying to your point I didn't want to lose gains on my legs just because I'm working on my ankle mobility so I'm still kind of intermittently using the squat shoes so I could still hit those heavy squat days and then eventually less and less and less times I'm using it to eventually go on yeah because initially here's the thing you have to understand initially there's going to be a bit of a trade off when you first take off the wrist straps initially there's a trade off you're not going to be able to lift as much weight it's tough because even if you're still focused on that weight total your body's hard wired to think that you need the lifted heel to accomplish that unless you really start to break yourself out of that and retrain that process so it's tough I would say within your priming and within your mobility days or off days and stuff really start to kind of work on just the ankle mobility in general and then you know kind of come back to it but yeah it's conflicting well here's the trade off that I'm going to pose to you here's your trade off initially you're probably going to have to go lighter because you're working on a weak link which means you're not going to be able to lift you know as much weight you may not build as much muscle you may even you may even depending on how advanced you are and how hard you're pushing your body you're going to gain real-world mobility you're going to reduce risk of injury and you'll build as much or more muscle on the flip side if you don't do what I'm saying you'll keep more muscle now you'll be able to lift more heavy heavier weight now but in the long run you're setting yourself up for greater risk of injury and you're just less functional I mean the bottom line is if you need a belt and shoes and knee wraps in order to lift heavy then that's not the strength that you really have without those things so for some people they don't give a shit they don't care they're like I don't care if I'm not actually strong like that in the real world for some of us it does matter like I'm one of those people that you know I want to be strong without having to put those things on in the real-world also that's just for me personally so and I don't know if it's because I got older and because I kind of get over having like awesome range of motion and without going super heavy too yeah totally that too for someone who's a bikini competitor or a men's physique guy like it's it's less it's less necessary for them to be lifting like super heavy weight where it's using all the tools right using all the tools to do that you'd be better off just lightening up the load and super setting something or machines yeah right or pre-exhausting an area that you're trying to target and then going into but here's the thing that I think that like Sal saying longevity I think it's so important that you keep that in mind if you're a long-term goal so your short-term goal is that you want to compete on a stage your long-term goal is that you don't have to wear tools like this just so you can work out so you know you you take a little bit it took me a year and a lot of people don't have that the patients yeah the patients to do it for you they want to say oh I'm supposed to squat without shoes and then two weeks they're already there and then they think no like I am just now and you know what you're doing right you're not the average person you know I'm programming well I'm putting the work in I'm doing all my mobility my prime pro shit like I'm putting the work in 100% just know it's going to take a long time yeah that's all yeah I mean let's be honest I spent the first 30 years of my life creating a poor recruitment pattern you know and so to think that I'm going to change that in one month is pretty naive you know it's like so and it's obviously that's all relative to how where you are currently like we're speculating on someone we don't even know and haven't seen so for all I know she may be already almost like Katrina it was really easy to take her into a new depth of her squatting because really for her she wouldn't already squatting in squat she was already she had more technique and mechanical yeah it was more technique and mechanical issues I just needed to help her with and then it was within a month or so she was already hitting people respond yeah really it was really really easy now me on the other I had been training incorrectly for so long that I created these really I had really strong it's funny Bruce Lee used to say that it was easier for him to teach kicks to somebody who'd never learn them then for him to teach kicks to someone who had studied them for years but have done them wrong same thing with golf same thing with any it's mechanics and it's muscle memory right it's that ability to connect to that and your body remembering like this your default you're immediately going to go to whatever you do the same thing if you got a guy who's been like boxing on his own trying to get in then he does that for four years and then he decides to get a coach and the coach is like oh we got to break down everything you're doing yeah that's with anything yeah no I think I think this is all very good advice you know here's a deal like you don't want to be I can't tell you how many people and I know you guys are the same way I have met who are in their late 30s 40s and 50s who've been working knees, bad back, bad shoulder I can no longer squat I can't bench press anymore I can't I used to work out so heavy to be able to do these different things and now I can't do them anymore because they didn't address these issues and what they would do is they would cover them up with you know devices and belts and kept pushing and kept pushing abandoned that entire lift because it's like oh I guess I can't squat now there's somebody right now they're pretty well known I'm not going to say who they are repeatedly injuring themselves repeatedly over and over again stubbornly continues to go lift super heavy without addressing the real mobility issues and not taking the time that it takes because it takes like Adam said it can take a little dedicate yourself yeah it's not like months like oh the pain's gone I'm fixed now it could take years and that sucks you don't want to be I mean how shitty is that that you've been working out your whole life now you're 40 and you can't fucking do anything part right so 100% I lost strength I'm just now just now at a point where I can barefoot squat what I was squatting with squat shoes you know a year or a year and a half ago right so it took that long to get to that point but what's happened during that process and I shared this with you guys when I started playing basketball again is like I feel a fucking amazing movement my hips in my low back have never felt so good better than when I felt in my 20s when I hurt people sometimes they get an injury they come back they end up being stronger because of the rehab they actually had to put the time and focus into like really connected everything yeah right so that's kind of the same thing that's happened to me is like you know sure I saw this decrease in my squat and it sucks when your guy who can do over four wheels now suddenly you're fucking squatting with two plates and it's like gets in your head mentally but dude now there's other stuff the side effects of the back and the knee and the hip and all that stuff man that's that's worth all of it that's worth all being a guy who's fucking 36 now that matters a lot more to me than than the you could build a lot more on that right absolutely it's more solid right absolutely next question is from tenor joseph fit any psychological mental tips for getting through a fast if it's something you struggle with one of the biggest benefits I ever personally experienced from fasting was the psychological mental discipline it was just because I had always I had been so driven to gain weight muscle that I was connected to food in a very unhealthy way in the sense that I had chains I was chained to food do you even feel like it's hard for me to even like remember that feeling of like almost like you're not eating like it's a real thing when you first start this process I can feel for somebody that's trying to do this I was chained to food to the point where if I knew I was going somewhere like oh we're driving over here it's going to be a four hour drive oh shit okay I got to bring this food with me because I'm going to go two hours without food and I need to feed myself I was so chained to it and when I went through a fast the first time it was liberating all the fucking time yeah this is incredible now most people think to themselves when they hear this most average people like oh I don't have that I don't have that issue because I don't eat every two hours I just eat breakfast lunch and dinner you are also many of you are also chained to breakfast lunch and dinner in fact if you're somebody right now who says who thinks to themselves oh if I if I don't eat I get so hangry I get so stop saying that yeah get to start stop saying that most of you are getting irritated not because you miss the meal but because your anticipation of knowing that you're going to miss that meal knowing that I'm supposed to eat right now and I'm not that's the part that gets you irritated because if you realize that it's not that big of a deal it's not that important you'll notice not only will you not get irritated by skipping a meal you'll feel absolutely fine it's actually I have some like tangible things that you can do at least that helped me out so maybe it works for you maybe it doesn't I noticed a significant difference when I was first trying to incorporate this when I would eat my last meal was carb heavy versus fat high fat heavy so having your last meal having it like a high fat meal longer lasting satiating effect yes and not the spiking of the blood sugar from the from the rush from the carbohydrates into your system and stuff so the big difference for me it was easier for me to to refrain from eating just by having my last meal being like a pure fat meal and no no carbohydrates in it and then the other thing is drinking a lot of water so you know tease me all you want about carrying my gown of water around with that but when I was fasting it makes it a lot easier it's just keeping my mouth busy and kind of sipping on water all day long kind of keeps my mind off of where's my food at oh my god I got one more hour I got to eat so cool but they were tangible things that I kind of played around with a notice of significant difference when I did and I didn't do that that helped me out a lot yeah I definitely don't sit around you know I'm just like lightly active not even like moderate to intensely active I'm just like active I'm up I'm doing stuff I'm trying to keep my mind busy and that's something that I definitely benefit from love to hike on those days Saturday or Sunday we would go out for we'd fast we'd fast in the morning we'd get out to wherever we're hiking by about 10 or 11 hike for a couple hours and it's not a stringy first meal like 3 or something yeah then have our first meal by about 3 o'clock in the afternoon and just felt amazing it's something that I used to do was I would drink obviously drink water but I would drink was it called well bubbly water I can't even think of the mineral water mineral water I would drink that kind of water throughout the day that would help by the way there are some people who have the opposite issues with food where they don't want to eat that's obviously the extreme case of that is anorexia if that's you the last thing I'll ever recommend is fasting because your psychological issue with food is the opposite you should find ways to be able to eat regularly consistently because psychologically speaking you're on the opposite end of the scale but because we're talking to a bunch of fitness fanatics and muscle builders we've all been so now we need to eat every two or three hours we have to have protein all the time that fasting can be an incredible you can get incredible psychological benefit from fasting because it's a great disrupter of rituals you know like like you said it's liberating it's freedom it's like so all these scenarios where you always like hammer yourself ah I shouldn't have eaten that at you know my aunt's house or this and that or whatever like the options just aren't there for me right there well just wait until later I'll tell you what if I want natural energy like if I know I need to be sharp and on point and even slightly hyper for sure I'm fasting 100% yeah I know you're right nothing gives me more consistent isn't that crazy because we were taught as kids like mom would be like make sure you get you have a test today make sure you get your big breakfast and it's pancakes and fucking eggs and bacon and syrup right it's so the opposite of what if you wanted true mental clarity breakfast and go take your test have you guys done you've done a 48 hour fast and you haven't right Adam 24 so I really suggest that I've actually done 72 have you so I really I've been doing a lot of reading on this and it's you know Dr. Valter Longo does a lot of he's like an expert on this subject and it's probably a good idea if you're healthy to do I've read the same I agree I mean it's something that I would like to implement well dude it's literally like I mean anti-cancer incredibly anti-cancer and for immune issues for autoimmune issues you know you want to get rid of those immune cells that think it needs to attack your body one of the best ways to do that is to fast right don't because they tend to die and then you rebuild new and Jessica are planning on doing it after the holiday and it just feels good because like you know you're going to just cleansing yourself a bit yeah it just feels right right because you just had your New Year's and Christmas and you're eating all that food and maybe we'll all schedule it together so we can get we can get we can get we can get we can get we can get we can get we can get we can get we can get we can get it, yeah it would be great because because I think it would produce good content too cause we did on the show let's do this visual so we'll do it afterwards and put it on the Halar dodis and maybe we'll we'll encourage you know listeners and stuff to follow along maybe they want to try that form I tell you what I'll give I'll say the little for us already I have yeah I'm going Totally up to you, right next question is from Lyosco 83 train to live as far as raw material to feed the American people What needs to be improved with our modern agriculture to create healthy food so people can create a healthier lifestyle? So I'm gonna tell you guys why I picked this question because this question highlights a massive massive fallacy In people's thinking when it comes to food the one of the biggest and worst fallacies In thinking when it comes to food is The reason why there are people who are starving or the reason why there are lots of hungry people is Because we just don't have enough food or the other side of this fallacy is oh my god The population is growing we're gonna have you know X amount of billion of people on earth in the next 50 years We don't have enough the resources. We don't have enough food to feed everybody people are gonna starve Both are incredibly false of course at support support your local farmer Well, I support your local farmer well of markets of course at some point if we had enough people on earth We wouldn't be able to feed them, but that's very very unlikely to happen. In fact Once we hit a certain number of the population will probably shrink which is what happens in modern societies But here's the here's the big fallacy. I'll tell you guys a story the Soviet Union when it existed was producing something like two times more Milk and dairy than the US and something like three times more grain than the US they were producing Ridiculous ungodly amounts of food and yet they had famines and starvation all the time Americans were far better fed than the Soviets were the reason for this discrepancy even though they had so much food It all boils down to you distribution to this day. It boils down to distribution India produces Something like 300 more calories per person than it needs to sustain their population and yet they have mass starvation and poverty in certain Parts of the country is this one of the distribution Isn't this one of the things that gunner from Thrive Market was touching on also is like that that's like distribution is everything for them Like there's enough organic food in the United States to be getting it in people's it's the ability to get it to them How much food is wasted? You know in the Soviet Union there were fields of wheat massive acres and acres and acres of wheat that would go rotten because distribution requires Efficiency getting the food to where it needs to go Efficiently before it goes bad, which is inherently cause the problem, right? Because they're trying to preserve it more adding preservatives and adding like more of a shelf life to some of these things Well, that's part of it the other part of it is the signals that are necessary to know How much to produce where it needs to go cannot happen from central planning because you have this guy trying to predict What's gonna happen now the free market does a great job of this because the market, you know The prices that we pay for things really that's that signals telling people what to grow where when how much and what's more needed What's more valuable because the price goes up. There's more demand all that stuff But as we move ahead in the future Because of technology we are gonna see better and better Efficiency and better methods of distribution and that's gonna solve the world's hunger problems It's not the fact that we need to produce more food. We have enough food Americans throw enough food away because it went bad We throw enough food away to feed most third-world countries just from the like you pick one small third-world country And you give them the food that we waste or that goes well the truth is and you say this This is what you say all the time So the best way that we can vote is with our dollar And if this is a concern or something that you you care about or you want to see But this is where you you do support a company like Thrive Market This is part of why we support them and why we partnered up with them is because this is what these are the type of people That are trying to solve this exact issue. How can we get organic food to someone's doorstep within one to two days? Anywhere anytime in the United States like this is what they're they're trying to provide and be able to do that So cheap that it's cheaper than what it would cost you if you were to walk into a whole food growth Look at it this way so in the past I'll use an example of uber again and taxis in the past taxi companies and In governments would make the case that we need to have a we need to have a centralized regulatory agency of some sort to ensure that taxi cab companies are Safe that they're good drivers that they're not gonna rip people off that the guy you're getting the car with is not some guy That's gonna rob you and all that stuff, right? uber succeeds today with far better success rates far better, you know approval better ratings because we can now Immediately rate the driver and the driver can rate us immediately before if a driver ripped you off or was shitty You'd find out about it, but they may be able to be able to rip off a few people before that happens today It's instant so knowing that we're gonna have even faster and faster and faster Methods of signaling each other knowing how to make things more efficient things are so efficient now Look the only reason why Amazon can deliver to your fucking house Within 24 hours and give you something that's cheaper isn't be it's be is efficiency 100% It's well think about big business like they're they're they love feedback They they they pay a lot of money to try and get that feedback from the consumer It's just that it's labor-intensive for the consumer So a lot of times you have to incentivize them in whatever the way they can but you know They really want that because they want to improve the quality in the service that they're providing So it just makes sense if we can figure that out imagine a situation and I'm like this is all future like you know I'm pying this guy type of stuff But I think it's possible imagine a future where rather than having to buy a loaf of bread a gallon of milk a dozen eggs you literally open your fridge and You want an egg you push a button or you grab it and you get the egg You don't get the dozen eggs or you get the slice of bread or you get the Imagine what that would do in terms of efficiency both for money savings right think of how much money And wait think about how many times you've thrown a loaf of bread away or a half a thing of tortillas or something because it's got moldy And it's old or leftovers that just said butter it like who likes the butter don't think for a second that that's not We're not headed to something that's similar to that I don't know if what I'm saying is total impossible But if I had told people again that you could have food delivered to your home Or or products or whatever delivered to your home within 24 hours Because you ordered something online if I said that to someone 20 years ago a hundred percent. They'd say I was impossible Yeah, that's impossible. It's just it can't work. No, and yet we figure it out We did and we figured out in fact, you know Bezos did you know It's funny you gotta remember what natural disaster it was there was somewhere where there's a natural disaster in the US and The Coast Guard and everybody was there and like we need to New Orleans. I don't remember how long ago is it? Wasn't this happened several times now where the government is trying to get water and food supplies to these places But it takes you know It takes days because it's the logistics and the complications So then a company like Walmart stepped in and said we'll get water to people but because they understood distribution They have efficiency. They know how to deliver They know the chain setup instant like water was there like the next day much faster than we could try to figure out Well planning that's all about efficiency. So Yeah, it's really it's all about distribution and I'm not the only one that's saying that's not my idea This is economists and people who know who are experts on the subject will tell you It's not about anything else other than if we can get food distributed Efficiently we will solve the world's problems in terms of hunger Well, you see Amazon's working on it right now with the whole shipping the shipping industry I mean that's all gonna get flipped on its head in the next fucking you know why the shipping industry so fucked It has been it has been It's a shit show. It's been tied down with regulations that are so archaic and corrupt. Oh, yeah to protect the shipyards Yeah, all kinds of shenanigans if they didn't have that shit Amazon would already and these companies already have You know be doing what they're doing on a broad scale The reason why they can't is because they literally are camp because a lot right and that's what he's just gonna bypass I'm like, oh, we'll just make a better system of doing it Just like they did with the fight a fucking sales funnel by fucking awesome. Yeah, I fucking love it I mean everybody there's a lot of people that hate on it stuff like that But I think there's such small-minded thinking because dude that that's what's gonna drive a Morph free market and a competitive atmosphere that's only gonna be better for the consumer in the long run It's gonna be better for I mean it'll be better for everybody. I mean that's just you know People think of wealth they think of dollars and money, but wealth is money just represents It's just a symbol. It doesn't really it's not real I can print a shit ton of dollars on a printer. That doesn't mean I'm wealthier If we did that to everybody's like if everybody all of a sudden had a million dollars in their count I'd swim in everything wouldn't use McDuck. Yeah, the price of everything would inflate and it would all be the same wealth comes from You more efficiency so now one person can do the job of 10 people or we can produce This much food and it costs this much time versus this much time and we can deliver it in much shorter periods time That's how we create wealth and that's what's gonna feed the world now that being said In terms of the types of foods that we produce. I'm telling you right now. I think insects I really do think insects are gonna represent a whole new very sustainable right source of protein cheap sustainable easy to Feed doesn't produce a lot of waste get rid of the locusts that way, you know that come through and I think you want to Talk about processed foods. You're gonna bet you're about to see a lot of processed foods coming from insects Well, we already do see you got fucking barbecue cricket chips right in front of you It's fucking coming to just smash them all. Yeah. No, it's funny as I bet you there's just a ton of insects in your food already You know I mean people don't even realize that. Oh, no, that's there's a lot of truth to that I remember one of my buddy who used to work at like the cannery for the tomato Hunts don't they give you limits that only have this man. Oh, no, it's like, you know X amount of rats Yeah, X amount of rats per barrel can get fucking mushed up with your tomato Oh, it's so hard to catch up after knowing that like oh my god. Oh hundred percent. There's fucking right there It's just a matter of how much rat you got it I just remain ignorant to that But it's like, you know, so the same thing was with with milk like when we we used to we used to do milk like They had they had like three levels of grade like grade a grade B grade C I don't remember what they were called back then and you know They come over and a guy before they pick your milk up They test it and they tell you what you qualify for and it's basically how much shit got into your milk Like, you know many times like some accidentally iodine got in there that I was dipping the cow's teats in and then that gets in there It's like that's okay. You can still get some of that in there and it's gonna be it will still Yeah, so it's like if now some a lot of shit drops it down to be then if like a lot of shit went in there It goes like the seat really oniony. Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty fascinating what we're probably already probably already having Yeah, absolutely, but I think processed foods you're gonna see a lot of more Insects focused on insects. Yeah, cuz they're easy. You can they grow quick. You can replenish them quickly Yeah, and they're Ways, you know, that's gonna get there. That's gonna confuse. Are they cool? I was gonna say are they cool insects? Like is that like yeah, I know it's pita gonna get pissed. I don't know You know, I feel like they're okay with it. You shitty bugs Yeah, I feel like pita really cares about animals that are relatively cute. Yeah, like nobody cares about fur Yeah, nobody cares about a spider insects have eyeballs, right? I mean that'd be interesting That reach out to some more vegans. They cry, you know in their own way exactly all right go to YouTube Subscribe to mind pump TV. 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