 Big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle nigga, big shit. Big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle. This is your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely official, Ms. Jamaica. What's going on? None of them. Same man, we back for another great segment of Boss Talk 101, man. It's going down, man. We got a special guest in the house today, man. He really don't need no introduction, man. I've been seeing him getting to it for years. So, you know, I look back and I try to research. I'm like, okay, this guy been really, you know, he been into music, but, you know, seemed like a little stop was there. I'm gonna ask him about that, though. But check it out, man. Traylor is in the building. What's up, baby? Man, man, you know what? I can't even hear that thing. I gotta be able to hear it cause the podcast. Can I, can you? Yeah, go ahead. Okay, can you, can you, can you, can you hear? Yeah, I'm still, I was able to hear the whole time. We still good, we Gucci. Okay, I just want to make sure when our customers, when I listen, our supporters hear us on the podcast cause it's on Apple, Spotify and all that, they can hear the volume good. You know what I mean? It's something about that radio sound. They gotta hear that, that input, man. So just, man, so being from Louisiana, man, just tell us a little bit about how you grew up and where, you know, how things transpired for Traylor. Man, really grew up really in the athletics world. Like my upbringing, I was big on sports. I did sports, man. I went to college. I played sports in college. In between time, though, I got into writing, writing poetry started off that way. It was just a way to express emotions and what not. It wasn't really more so about music at the time. And as I got a little bit older, with writing and playing ball in high school, me and friends and stuff, they end up having some of our teammates and homeboys end up having a home studio. And that's why I got to record in there for fun. It wasn't that serious. And it just carried over as a hobby that I continuously did. And it really turned into something. You know, a lot of people believed in it. They started supporting me, they started encouraging me and I started believing in it. So I just took it and kind of ran with it from there, man. So you say you went to school. What did you end up going to school for? So about college? Yeah. I got a degree in psychology and business management. And business management. And does that degree help you in whatever you're doing today? Because are you doing music full-time or are you doing something else and music? Yeah, no, I'm a loan officer. So yeah. Oh, really, that's dope right there. I do home loans, so if y'all need refinements. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's dope, that's dope, that's dope. That's dope, I like it. But you know, it do help because it just gives you a business sense. And then as far as going to college, what it really did allow me to network and learn how to network and create relationships. So anytime I'm selling or doing anything of that nature, just know how to build a relationship and establish that and maintain good rapport. That's always helped. And even in the music industry, it did the same thing for you? Networking everywhere. Okay. I mean, all around the board. I mean, I joined the fraternity, so they helped with resources as well. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna make them or two y'all. Yeah. So that also helped. So you got a branding too? Yeah. Yeah, I did it. Ooh, that's like it hurt. Yeah, but the thing I liked about your music, it seems real conscious. You know what I mean? It seemed like it's not like what you hear today and what people are doing because it seemed like it can be impactful and help our youth. I look at that. I look at that more than anything. So I like the way that we need that. We need some balance to how the music come out. A lot of people don't look at it that way. I'm looking from a whole over perspective. Yeah, you're gonna have people that gonna talk about the guns and knives and the women and all that. But you gotta have somebody conscious enough to speak truth. Yeah, I agree. I think that's really what I'm on, man. It's not so much as an intention to be conscious. So to say, I wouldn't even say, it's just really telling the truth. You know, just telling it what it is. Kinda just talking life, life stories, day-to-day stuff that you see that people experience is relatable and it's gonna encourage somebody because everybody, that's a normal person which we all are gonna relate to some part of it when it's not glamorized, glorified, and only talking about things that certain people can relate to, you know what I'm saying? I get down to the day-to-day. And I think in there too, that also helps with what you said. It just create an awareness about certain things because I still do purposely address certain stuff too now. But that ain't always the intent though. Where does the inspiration come from for your music? Just life, my life. Like I said- Just your life or other people's life as well? Well, my loved ones, people around me as well. I mean, obviously now with social media, being able to see everything going on, outside factors play a part, but mainly me, honestly, like the latest project that I have, that's all me. You know what I'm saying? How I feel about what's happening, what's happening to me. Or creating awareness based on something that happened to people around me. You know what I'm saying? I'm for our listeners who are listening, who you said your latest project, they might not know- I'm gonna get into that. Oh, I was just saying the name. I'm about to get into that. Okay, go ahead. But I wanted to stay down and bose you a little bit, just, you know, used to come up. So when did you move to Dallas? In 2015, the end of 2015. And so I've been out here in Dallas for about five years. That's dope. Yeah. I graduated, then I came out here. How you like it compared to back home? It's a lot more opportunity, I love Dallas. Okay. It's a lot more opportunities here than home for sure. And a lot more resources to do anything you wanna do. So that's always good. And I look at family building, cause that's like the next step for me. And you wanna be in a place where you can kind of build up a family and I have trouble and have a lot of resources and allow your kids to be able to be involved with. Whatever they wanna be involved with. I was just down in Shreveport the other night, there's a lot of empty buildings and opportunity down there. I was looking at them as I went by, you know, even when we looked at, was it the boardwalk when we was talking up in the store over there? You know, it's ways to get around things if you change the way you think. You know that? You in the psychology, you should know that. You know what I mean? For as if you don't think, you put yourself in a box, that's where you'll be. Yeah, I got a big tat at the top of my, I mean, you have a big tat at the top of my back. Let's say, if you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change. So that's crazy. That's dope. I like that. I like that. That's real. So that's crazy to say that. I really live like that and I think like that too. That's real. So like I said down there, it's opportunity and it's not as much as out here because it's bigger of course, but there is some things you can do down there that can, you can become a millionaire right there. Yeah, you can become a millionaire anywhere. So I just wanna make that clear. I ain't meaner than that one. No, no, no, no. I'm just saying, you know, but a lot of people down there get discouraged and be like, I'm getting down here. I did. I did the same thing you did. Like I'm going out here and trying to figure it out. And it was definitely some, it was the right move for me, but at the end of the day, I do understand that some of the people that's down there doing real well, some of my partners millionaires down there. So I know they get to it. You know what I'm saying? Oh yeah, most definitely. It's always stuff you can get into. It's stuff everywhere that's gonna play a part, like real estate and land and property. Correct, correct. You know what I'm saying? There's certain things, no matter where you at, if you tapped into it, you're gonna get some money. That's your goal. How did your parents feel about you becoming a rapper? They weren't really tripping on it. They've been real supportive with everything that I do. And they know I'm a leader, not a follower. So first they just trusted it. You know what I'm saying? And also I had other things going. So I never was like, I never had that story where, man, it's like in the streets and rap could turn it, where it's like a thing where it seems like the direction is dead or in jail. You know what I'm saying? Right, right, right. Because of rapping and being involved like that. So with me being in school, going to college and shit like that, they always supported it because I always had my priorities together. I knew I needed to come first at the time. You know what I'm saying? You had any older siblings? Nope, I'm the oldest. Oldest? Okay, so you have a lot of younger ones are looking up to you. Yeah. So you gotta take over TV this from down there. He been on the show. It's just, you know, I like to see the movement down there too. You know, I definitely loved the way the sound deals from down there cause I'm from down there. So I'll be looking and watching, you know what I mean? It ain't nothing like it, bro. And they're racing ass, turn it down. Niggas be slipping and they don't see it because they're not in it. You know, sometimes you can't see the picture cause you're not in the picture. Or you can't see the picture from being in the picture. So it's two different ways. You know what I'm saying? It's all kind of ways you can look at it and you can see that they have a momentum down there. I was just on the phone arguing, well, talking back and forth with a guy that he was talking about one guy said, you get 10 rappers from down there and we'll take 10 from, you know, up here and 10 from Houston and we gonna be in that thing. And he, but the dude was like, you know, y'all name big hits that y'all made from down there. It don't matter when you get that smoke, you know, you might come in and let a nigga have it. And I don't care who you is if the rhyme right. You're in trouble. You know what I'm saying? No matter if you made the hit or not. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure. I agree. That's a lot of Louisiana artists, I guess not heard enough. I don't want to say slugged on because everybody ain't slugged on. They just ain't heard enough. So people hear them, they know, like, oh, shit, okay. Yeah, but I like the bounce music from down there. You know what I'm saying? I like it. You know, it's a different vibe, different wave. I like the way it has its own essence, just like Houston has its own thing. Dallas kind of, they do what they want to do. But right now with the internet, you can sound however, like I believe that too. Yeah, yeah, that's why I was trying to say more sounds become a universe. Like if you're in the south, you can kind of get anything from anywhere, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't say even myself, I don't sound like a quote unquote typical Louisiana. No, you don't, not at all. Not at all. You might not even think I'm from that if you hear it. You won't. Except for some of the three years ago songs, I heard some bounce stuff. You know what I'm telling the truth, right? Like when I went back to that, I'm like, oh yeah, that nigga from Louisiana right there. You know what I'm saying? But then the newer stuff now, you know, stuff like Father figure and all that. No, that's dope though. That's the dope. It just kind of like a PGF, the one that was over here a shout the other day. They got the same kind of feel. I'm loving the vibe with the music when it can tell me something. That's the old school way of doing it too. That's the way they used to do it. We're getting back to that. They even sampling the old stuff now. They getting back to that old vibe. And I'm loving the movement. I wanted to see this. So thank God for it. Oh yeah, that's crazy. We was just talking about that man, my brother. Yeah. And just talking about bringing that element back. Yeah. That feel good. That story telling that, that relatable day to day stuff to what I was just saying. That's actually intentional right there, man. So do you have any kids? No. No, not yet. No kids yet. No, man. That brother, that brother, he not even know Harry. That brother don't want to get locked down. You know what I'm saying? This right here is a high value, man. I don't know. Just so you know. Just so you just let you know right now. This brother ain't got no kids. This brother right here, a good looking man. He don't need nobody holding them down that ain't got their stuff together. I ain't saying. He said it. Yeah, I said it. This is a high value man we got on here today. If you say so. Oh, I know it is, man. I'm looking at you. You don't have no kids. The brother, he graduated college. The brother working. Yeah. The brother didn't even take no drink when you gave it to him. This is a high value man. Shout out to my boy Tray Lowe, man. Stop playing. Hey, man. Oh, man, it's going down. Yeah, I'm watching everything going on, man. I'm loving the vibe. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm high value too, but I'm locked down. You know what I'm saying? You locked me down. Been almost 20 years. You know what I'm talking about? I can enjoy this brother's movement. You know what I'm saying? Tell him, man. No, so basically, what's the process for the music? What's, okay, about the new project now? Yes. Okay, what is the new project? Just to give us a little bit of what it's consistent of. What are the name of the project? It's Till Further Notice. I've seen that. Yeah, I got it in my notes. So I'm going to just start with the title. Yeah. I'm going to give you kind of an idea of where I was headed with it. So the title is basically just stating that Till Further Notice, I ain't got shit else to say because I put it all on the table and I talked about everything that I wanted to get off my chest or dress. You know what I'm saying? So it's more like until some new shit come up or some new things happen in my life or the music take another turn and, you know, if it pop off to a whole other level, I'm just in the cut Till Further Notice pushing this and rocking out with it and making more content with it. Yeah, I like the vibe of the music. I actually love the way that it almost looked like it was going to be a like a series of like a movie series, the way it was moving and flowing to me when I was researching you. You know, I'm being real. Like in the closet type of thing? It was like that for me. It was, I was looking, I was like, man, he said this, this episode, you know, it just seemed episodic, you know? Yeah, that was intentional too. I wanted it to be there because it's very long. Yeah, I'm about to make twenty three song, not no more. And that's an hour, twenty four minutes. Yeah. And so it's very, very long. And so I actually call it a movie like a bunch of people because it's like that's the feel like it's going to take you through just a lot of emotions and a lot of things. Like if you watching a movie, yeah, you ain't just going to be in one place listening to this body of work. I think that's dope. I think I think that's all the way. So in this body of work, everything in there is related to your life. Yeah, I can't think of a song in that is not related to my life. You know how when you watch movies or even true stories, they always add bits and pieces to make it a little bit more exciting and stuff like that, just to hype it up. So you telling me in your stories, everything is to the T of what happens. Is anything fabricated? No, this shit is 100 percent accurate. And even the story, even when I'm talking about certain things, the stuff that I'm talking about is happening in chronological order. I'm literally rapping and how it really happened. I'm painting the picture. He could vouch for that, right? This is from from zero to hero. You know, the story, how it happened. I'm telling that exactly how it is. OK, so what? So what what do you think? Do you like what music is that? I mean, when you because the song that that that keeps coming back to me is the one substance, because at the end of the day, you said, can we please change the subject, make some music with some substance? You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, yeah, reiterate. Yeah, what are you talking about? Would you like to see? I think that actually it's people doing what I'm referring to. I just wanted to say it to create awareness because what you just said, so people will be like, so it's a conversation. Yeah. And so just instead of glamorizing, what's being glamorized right now, you know, killing the ops, you know, thugging, popping pills, you know, drugging, thugging and drugging. Yeah. Glamorize some of this other stuff, man, where people talking about some shit that's going to move people, that's going to drive emotions, that's going to create awareness. That's going to be positive. That's going to positively impact lives and people rather than the forefront being shit that's really not helping any of our people. You said some people are doing that and some people aren't. Give me a couple of names of people who are doing that. You think you're trying to call my hands? No, I'm just trying to call my hands. I was in the positive part. I'm not even talking about the negative part. I'm talking about the people who do rap with substance. Yeah, yeah. So I think John and Lucas rap with substance. Yeah. Shout out to John and Lucas. Deontay Hitchcock, he rap with substance. I think De Smoke, Toby, who are still rap with substance. I even think the game, like his latest album, I think it's fire. It's his life. You know what I'm saying? He talk about some stuff, but it's still substance in it. Who else off the top of my head? Jay-Z always talking about substance. Cole and so. OK, that's that's a good amount of. Yeah, I mean, I can keep going if you need me to. But that's good. Yeah, because that's one thing we always would preach that people, men and women need to start having substance in their music. We've always said that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, these kids listen to that. Yeah, he definitely a breath of fresh air when he comes down to the music and and what we really need to see happening to move the needle. You know, we're going to have the other two, you know, even back in the days when Luke came out just before you were born. You know, you know, you do. Father, Miami, Luke, when he was out, you still had you know, you had some different people, you know, especially in different people, you had different people that has different substance to their music. I think you're going to get a little bit of all of it. You know what I'm saying? But we got to have the part that you talking about because it's been watered down there lately. Right. That's all that's all I'm saying. You know, you tell the truth. And then there's people who actually, you know, are talented enough to talk about the other shit that could actually jump in this land and talk about some real shit, too. Yeah, because they, you know, like I said, it's highlighting all of the other shit they want to glorify. But they live, they live life, too, man. All these people that talk about all this other shit, man, they be fucking with their real shit, too. No, no, no, I get it. You know, you think about people like think about J. Cole and he did. I think J. Cole was the song that he did with with with with Young Thug and he did with it was Young Thug and the boy out of Houston. What's that boy named to go with that Kardashian girl? Travis Scott. Travis Scott. So I think they they had came together on the song. I can't remember the name of it, but I look at it because when you first see Young Thug come out, you know, he came out and then people didn't know what the heck he was doing. But he was there, but he was alive. He was all the way live. You know what I'm saying? He was all the way you were going to listen to it and it was, oh, yeah, he wearing the dress and we'll be wearing this, you know, but then he flipped the script on them because of his boys and his kids. I can tell what he done. But the thing I can say is when you got people in there like the, like, like the J. Cole's, then they got somewhere they can leverage to. You see what I'm saying? Like you were saying, kind of like you explained and really like they can flip over because they're good enough to, you know what I'm saying? I get it. Just have a little balance. That's all, man. Because I mean, like you said earlier, some of you said, like, being from where we from or that area in East Texas and Louisiana, I still, I'm still into rather club shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stuff, so I don't like to sound like I come up here and I'm doing some conscious shit. No, no, no, no. Everybody need to start. Nigga, I turned up the booster. I'm bumping that shit. I'm bumping you, you know what I'm saying? I'm mystical. Yeah, he coming. He'll be here in a week. We're doing all that, man, you know what I'm saying? We're still ratchet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, that's dope, man. Cause that's the heritage, right? That's where it all begins. So I get it. I definitely understand that, man. You know, that music was live, man. Mistacle back in, he was dope, man. Like any of the, where have you, that savage life, God. Oh, we're still on there, man. That savage life, man, you put that thing in now and it's a problem. And I was just, well, I was trying to educate. I don't call it educate the fact that, you know, Southern music is not respected on that level on the East Coast and West Coast. People would be like, yeah, yeah, you know it ain't nigga. Our music never will. We had to kick the dough in and I know that. I don't never forget. I don't let nobody forget it. That even now to this day, when you look at different podcasts or radio stations on the East Coast, they don't respect us on the level like we got to respect ourselves, brother. I know that, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you, I know it because of what I see. You know, yeah, the numbers make them get right though. So if you push them numbers out, you know what I'm saying, then they go, oh yeah, yeah, you've got to accept it now. Cause the world and told you to kind of like when that, when George Floyd went through what he went through, when the world say nigga, get it right. Oh, you're going to get it right. You know what I'm saying? The world started marching. Okay, friends, we over here, we with you. We over here, you see what I'm saying? Now the influence is so powerful. You got to respect what's being said as you're going to look foolish. Thanks. You know what I'm saying? You got to respect it. So that's the way it is with the music. If you bring it hard enough and you do it consistently enough, you got to be respected for what you, the body of work that you're bringing. At some point, you know what I mean? Cause you, you're playing seeds. And as you keep playing those seeds everywhere and you keep hustling, you out doing the competition because you produce it more and it's good content and it's good music with lyrics that make sense. Oh, it's a problem. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's a hell of a problem. So that's always the plan, you know what you're saying? That's the plan. Yeah, that's the way it's supposed to go down, right? Yeah. No, man. So where do you see yourself in the next two years? Two years, six months. Let's go. Two years, six months. Where the music is concerned? Two years or six months, what are we doing? Two years. Two and a half years? So in the next two years, man. So I see you pushing this out and pushing this pretty hard. I see another body of work within two years for show. I like bodies of work. Just one body of work? Why not two? Well, I see maybe a couple of songs or singles in between and then working on the body of work. Because I like to take my time with the body of work. You see there's 23 songs in an hour. I like to be able to put all the story in there. How long did it take you to do that one? It don't take me long to do music. I'm gonna say from May to August or September, maybe the writing process and recording it and getting the mixtures take a little bit longer, but as far as me getting the content I want. From start to end, a year? No. How long? Eight months. Eight months? Yeah. Oh, yeah, no, no, eight months. Eight months? I guess that was crazy. That's a big difference. Four months. That's a quarter. You're right. That's definitely a quarter. That's a quarter, what you mean? I get it. I get it. So I see all this stuff growing, like he said, planning a whole lot of things, developing a whole lot of relationships that I didn't have prior to now in this body of work. And so I see myself growing exponentially. Do you feel that you can put in 100% into your music while still having a full-time job? No. It's harder than... No, yeah. It ain't 100%, but I can give it my all, meaning all of what I got when I'm out of there. You know what I'm saying? Because I gotta... So when you're doing it this way, how I'm doing it, this is what's funding everything too, right? That's right. Because I'm independent. I don't have nothing behind me but me. And so I gotta go harder. I have to focus on that while I'm at work when I'm at a nine to five. Because that's what's gonna make all this other shit work. So I can't be thinking about music. I can't even be putting music in that timeframe because I need to focus. Because I gotta run this bag up. So I can come over here and invest it over here and do what I gotta do. And so I have to get off and then refresh my mind, get prepared to come to stuff like this. I came here and it's kind of like, it's less time that I can give to it, honestly. But it's about what you do with your time which go back to another thing. It was just like four months. That's a lot. When I'm thinking about what I can do in four months with the time that I have, you know what I'm saying? And do it while you can because you have no kids so you don't have to find the time to deal with that as well. But I think a real boss put his money up. You know what I'm saying? You're a boss talk. You know what I'm saying? You're a boss. That's all you just explained. Hey, I'm a boss. I put my money up. I'm independent. I'm running this thing. I got the ball and since you're putting your money up, you're gonna take care of it's your baby like you told me about mine. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, exactly. So you just taking care of your business. I see it. It's gonna work out. Yeah. It's gonna work out. In two years, it's gonna be a different, like if you're looking at a trailer, it's gonna be a different thing going on. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna be in more places, more spaces with more faces. You feel me? So trailer, top three artists of all time. Dead or alive. Dead or alive. Any genre. Any genre. Man, that's shit. Top three. It don't matter. Oh my goodness. NBA young boy? I don't care no. I'm just messing with it. I ain't even want to, I try to keep a straight face on everything because I don't want to be this shit. No, no, no, no. I fuck with young boy, but man. Not on that level. We're right. Don't do that, man. That was your number one. Luther Van Dras? No. Not so much pressure. Let me think, bro. It's my number one. Number one. Number one. That's hard, man. Bro, with people, I'm gonna have to- I'm gonna have to- Everybody that's been on this platform has answered that question and they answered it with poise. People normally spit out number one and number two. Number two quick, but then three be hard. Number three usually be hard. Yeah, for me, it ain't like that, though. Number one. So I'm gonna say twister. Me quit meddling, man. I'm gonna say JC, man. Oh, God, I knew this dude was a JC fan because he said J-Co. Exactly. I'm just kidding, JC. What? He's the same nigga. You said JC, too, in the beginning, but keep going. No, no, that's a good one. JC is good. I just said he wrote with substance. Everything you talk about. JC. Top three artists. It don't have to. It can be singing. It can be rap. It could be, yeah. It could be- Any genre. I'm gonna put Drake in my top. Drake? That's dope. Drake, yeah, Drake. Who else? Number three. JC, Drake. Number three, man. Fuck. It's a hard place right here. Like you said. Yeah. He's trying to make people feel it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. That's it, Drake. Soldier boy. Let's go. Okay. I can't do soldier boy, man. He's gonna say Lil Wayne. You think so? I can rock with it. Lil Wayne. I can put him there. I'm comfortable there since I gotta make three and I gotta do it right now. So you think Lil Wayne fits? So it's- Artist wise, yeah. Okay, so it's Jay-Z, Drake, and Lil Wayne in that order. You know what I'm saying? Top three artist, man. From Trey Lowell, man. He's going down. Yeah, that's a good top three. I mean, you know, that's where you hard at. You know what I'm saying? Jay-Cool, you know what I'm saying? He get the money, right? Right? He get the business mind. And his lyrics is dope. Yeah, that's where I look at it when I say that. Yeah, the lyrics are dope. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. I can't relate to some of the stuff, but some of it I can. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I definitely don't relate to some of it either. Yeah, yeah. Bill, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Art, it cost millions of shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm just saying the influence of what he's doing and what he can do. Yeah. He can literally go anywhere with the money, with the fuck he want to demand it. Exactly. You gotta pay it. And not too many people can do that. Well, Kanye is doing his thing. He done passed Jay-Z and finances. Yeah, well, what he producing, know how he move people, what he talk about in music, ain't the same as Trey C. No, because before his business, he, as the numbers stand, he's a better business, man. That's a conversation. Yeah. Oh, I ain't talking about business no more. But you see what I'm saying? No, that's a hell of a conversation because if you look at the numbers, the numbers gonna tell you, he popping that whip right now. You know what I mean? For them, Yeezys and all the stuff that he got going. Kanye is very creative. Yeah, but they called him crazy for a minute there. They was, oh, he crazy. And then they were getting that money. Usually a genius is not understood. That's right. That's right. You know what I'm saying? That's right. I don't wanna call him crazy, I'm gonna say not understood. As an artist in today's society, you don't think about just an artist as in a rapper or a singer. You think about a whole entire artist as in businessman, musician, just everything under one umbrella. And that's what people think about when they think about an artist today. Back then it was just your musician. Right. What's your favorite song from Jay-Z? I don't know if I, let me make a song. Yeah, that's what I thought. You don't know that nigga like that. Don't you bring that nigga back on our platform in the South? Oh, that nigga drove, that nigga very upset about Jay-Z. I wanna be honest with you, I like Jay-Z. I really do listen to his music too. I went to his concert and everything. I cut for his business mind, but I'm from the South. So when I hear music, I'm gonna hear that bang. I'm gonna hear that what we do. I'm gonna be on that Savage Life type stuff. Or you know the stuff that, you know what I'm saying? The stuff that we've created down here is something for me, cause I remember the times. Yeah. I remember when Jay-Z was just Jay-Z and you had Scarface banging up the waves down here. And Jay-Z would rabble up, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh, flipping it, it wasn't all that, to be honest with you. So let me make sure. Did you hear what I just said? I went all the way back to where at first, you know what I mean? They used to flip words, that's what they used to do. What I was about to say, just to make sure that I'm answering your question correctly too, because of what you just said. When you say my top three, you mean who I'm bumping the most? Or do you mean? Yeah, I mean who in your ear, who what music you love the most, you know what I mean? Nobody doesn't have to be who you're bumping because a lot of people who said their top three on this platform don't necessarily listen to them every time they go in the car, but this is the person that they admire, they love from day one. Okay. You see what I mean? It's just, it's a two point phone. I got you, I got you. Cause I'm like, yeah, you right. I'm not bumping Jay-Z every day all day. I'm bumping, how do people get on and say Eminem? I'll be like nigga, really? Yeah. Like you're not bumping on Eminem like that. Yes, you don't even understand where direction you was coming from. Me, mine is my one. If you talking about where I'm bumping, like I'm gonna be in the car, I'm bumping some Gates, I'm bumping some Louisiana shit, man. I get it, you know what I'm saying? And that's where I was at with it, like my co-host, my other co-host, he's not here today, but when he gave his top three, his top three was who he was bumping. It was Boosie, Web in mode three. Okay, I see. I can understand that the two differences in you. That's what he said. Yeah, yeah, I like so. Because I'm thinking about from a... It's just like, do you understand who I am? How you take the question. Yeah, yeah, I'm like... But I like it the other way because people go through stages, I'm listening to this person now because I like their music now and then later on I'm switching to this person. But although you switch from this person to this person, you'll still have the ones that you love from day one from back then that every time you hear that music, you're just like, that's my jam. You know what I mean? Yeah. With the newer stuff, it's like, you like it now then you're like, uh, and you just keep going. Yeah. Yeah, most definitely, man. I'm gonna say Gates roll with me like that though. Yeah. Like from, if we talking day one, like I been fucking with him. And if he drop, I'm like, hey, where that Gates at? Yeah, yeah. They play that shit. The thing I can say about you and the music you bring, it has a different feel, you know what I'm saying? It has a feel to where you don't, when you think about it, the feel that you give it educates that father figure. It helps. You understand what I'm saying? That father figure, it basically, it's needed. I wish I'd have got you on here before father day. That would've been great. Cause I dropped my partners. He had one call. Let me give you some advice. And it was a good one too, basically. That's a catchy title. But his son, he's cutting his hair on there and him and Boosie on there. It's Boosie and PGF Shaw, he was just on the show. So it's like, that's dope. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna go check that out. Yeah. I'm gonna see what Boosie's talking about on there too. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a good- Give me some advice. He's talking to his kid, you know? And I liked that song and I put it out for father's day, but if I'd have had yours, I'd have had two I could've put out. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Cause it was dope. I like that. What inspired that? My father figure. Like I was saying when I was writing this project, it was just a lot of my truths. And I mean, that's one of them. I wanted to give him flowers while he was here. Yeah. Cause a lot of the times we just kind of wait until it's too late to tell people how much we appreciate what they did. I agree. And then just becoming an adult, really looking into that situation, it's a lot different. When you start looking at things from a different perspective, instead of being a child. Yeah. And what it take to come in and take a child that ain't your child and from day one and raise them like your child and take a man, I live with him without my mama. You know what I'm saying? So, and it's not my biological father. So, you know, when you get older. I can relate. Yeah. And when you get older and look at that and look at what kind of man that is and how he's still supporting, never missed a game. I don't think he ever missed a practice. You know what I'm saying? That's good. Honestly. And so looking at that and having that kind of support and seeing what's been talked about today once again, niggas ain't shit. You know, black daddy, single black mothers, you know, women saying happy father's day to their homegirls and stuff. I just wanted to highlight the men out here that are in the community and supporting their families and doing stuff. And there's something that you have, that society has driven us to a place where you have to recognize the men have to just stand up and say, we will not be disregarding. You know, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like, you know what I'm saying? But this is what people are doing, you know? And it's making men have to step up and say, hey, men do take care of their kids. I brought my boys up here for that song when I first heard it. Because brothers, yes, I heard taking care of their kids. Stepfather's out here taking care. What about that? We don't hear a lot about that. Coaches out here taking care of their kids. Coaches? You know what I'm saying? Pastors? Yeah. Just some mentors. People who, me and who just say, you know what? I'm gonna look out for that guy right there. Yeah. Something we do. As a part of my fraternity, you know, uplift is one of the cardinal principles. So like, getting in the community, doing stuff, and helping the community, and being that big brother mentor is something that we actually do. So that's big, you know? I think we have. Being those type of figures. Positive role models and stuff, man. We gotta hang out with each other. You know what I mean? We gotta encourage each other. As men. Yeah, for sure. And hold each other accountable. And demand and respect too. As we hold each other accountable. No, you can't, no, that brother right there is some good dudes around here. I think that's not being done enough. I think we, you know, cause they divide it. We won't make it. Yeah. And I think we should start telling people when we see that teller. Like if I see you doing stuff and it looked like, you know, you handling your business and, you know, with your kids and stuff, man, it's good to sometimes just speak that to people cause they don't hear that. Yeah. Just a token of appreciation. You never know how that changed somebody's day. Like man, I see what you're doing, man. It looked like you got a beautiful family and it looked like you're having a good time with your kids, man. Keep that up, man. Keep being present. Look at, look at, it looked priceless. You know what I'm saying? That's it. And so little things like that could go a long way for some people depending on what was going on in life. You said a father figure. So where was your biological dad? He was around. He just wasn't around. Have you met him? Oh yeah. For sure. I'm around him all the time. Like if I go to my grandmother's house, his mother, that's my closest grandmother. And so I've been sitting there my whole life. He was never like in jail or, you know, nothing like that. You just don't have a relationship with him? Yeah. He just wasn't present. It's probably because his father and him didn't have a good relationship. Well, my grandpa in the house, still, you know, but that don't mean that's a good relationship though. Yeah. I do understand that. You and psychologist, the big yellow elephant that sits in the room that nobody ever talks about. Red for real. That's a lot of things in our house. People do that. You ever go to somebody's house when I was, I remember people you put on the front when people come over. You know what I'm saying? Nigga didn't let you know what was going on really. Oh yeah. Yeah, fighting everything, arguing everything else. Everybody come over you, you have to sit there and act like everything good. You knew that that's what you had to do in order to make sure that you didn't nobody, look at y'all a certain way, because y'all cared about what people thought about y'all. And that's the way we were as kids. We grew up, we knew, don't you say nothing? Shhh, don't open that door. We ain't here. It was all kind of stuff going on where you were being influenced into a situation mentally. That's still today too? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you said back then, that's happening right now as we speak. But you see what I mean? So it's definitely something to where we got to be careful of the conditioning of our minds. You know what I'm saying? The way we get caught up in the different things, circumstances. Oh yeah. I strongly agree, man. Putting God first is what does it for me, man. You gotta have that God thing going, man. I can't do it without him, to be honest with you. So that's how I deal with a lot of balance and I gotta have my spiritual battlefield to be able to change into this better person for the universe, you know what I mean? Yeah. Gotta have something going in, man, because you put the wrong stuff in, you get the wrong stuff out. I gotta put what you speaking into my spirit so I can grow my inner man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man, that man talking, man. That's the truth. No, I know what I'm just saying. You're saying some stuff that some people won't comprehend, you know what I'm saying? I know, but they're gonna have to listen to it twice like they do Lil Wayne. This dude got all the jokes, man. You quick, you quick and slick. You're a dangerous dude, man. I just love, I've been talking all my life. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I love to come and say that's why we doing this, really, because I like to talk. Exactly. Yeah, I like to chop it up in my head, brother. If I would just sell some of this on her. Not really, man. I'm gonna hustle it. Yeah, I did 35G. That's the same thing. I'm trucking in three days. Oh, see? This is a little something slight, you know what I'm saying? That's the record. So yeah, I like to get to it, man. And every man's shit for his family, you know what I mean? We put this business here for our children to grow up in and understand how to flip, you know? So that's what we've been doing with all the stores that we opened up. Oh, that's dope. That's dope. We've been here 15 years. My daughter 15 years old. Yeah, that's dope. They know. Yeah. So they don't take it and flip it into something else. They gonna take it to the next level. I don't expect them to do what they be doing now, but I expect them to instill it in them so they won't fret themselves evil doers or people coming at them in the wrong way. You know what I'm saying? They gonna know how to handle it. Yeah. And that's the way it's supposed to be. You know what I mean? For sure. Yeah, but what's up? I have nothing else. You doing? Yes, I'm done. Well, you ready for me to shut it down? Wow, you're running this thing now with silence, you hear me? So if you could speak to the younger you, I mean somebody that was about 16 and they were about to hear what you headed into when you went out to college and all the football. What would you say? You speaking to the younger you now? To help them to get ready? Say the same thing that we were saying earlier, man. If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change, man. So that's big. That's real big. Very big. You gonna be able to handle that at 16? Is he gonna be able to handle that at 16? Yeah, it depends on what you been, like you said, planting into these people the whole time. But even if they don't, they're gonna think about it. Like, what does that mean? And now you're gonna try to find out. You're gonna be trying to figure it out the whole time. What you mean if you change the way you look at things? And so when you're doing stuff, you'll even think about it, which will make you look for the answer a lot of times. And so in that quest, you'll find it. Okay, I see you going in quest. I think I said quest. Check it, man. Say thank you so much for coming on the show. We love you, brother. You know what I'm saying? Appreciate that. Thank you all for having me. Yeah, you always welcome here, man. How can people get ahold of it? At Trelo on Instagram, that's at T-R-E-L-O-W. Twitter is at TreloD2W. So that's at T-R-E-L-O-W-D, the number 2W. And on all streaming platforms, it's just Trelo. And if you really wanna tap in, I am Trelo.com. And that got everything from everything, merchandise all that. Hey, man, thank you so much for coming on the show, man. We love you, brother. We wish you much success, man. And if you ever have new projects and you wanna come through here, we are always here and you're welcome to come, man. Highlight your boy. It's a unique hustle. It's another great segment of Boss Talk 101, man. And we out.