 Coming up on DTNS how your behavior has changed while you stay at home regarding tablets and smart speakers Walmart takes on Amazon in fast grocery delivery and Robert Herron's here to help you up your home theater speaker game This is the Daily Tech news for Friday May 1st 2020 International Workers Day in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from Studio Redwood. I'm Sarah Lane drawing the top tech stories from Cleveland, Ohio I'm Len Peralta and I'm Roger Chang the shows producer Robert Herron display analyst co-host of AVXL. So good to have you back on the show, man. My pleasure. Good to be here Good to have you guys We were just talking about doing things for yourself from building your own chest freezer To cars on good day internet become a member get that conversation at patreon.com slash DTNS Let's start with a few tech things you should know Speaking of building things Microsoft open registration for its virtual build conference making registration free for all attendees The event will feature opening remarks by CEO Satya Nadella The usual keynotes to start the conference with 48 hour workshops streamed on Twitch The 48 hour event will start May 19th at 8 a.m. Pacific time the in-person build conference required at 2395 entry fee last year well different now Yeah cheaper Reddit's vice president of product community Alex Lee announced that the company is rolling back the start chatting feature We talked about on yesterday's show At least he cited several errors with the launch including a bug that would show a starting chatting button on all Subredits even those not part of the initial rollout Some of the subreddits don't want this feature and they were annoyed by that Lee also said Reddit will give subreddit moderators the ability to opt out of having the feature appear in their communities and in a statement To the verge Reddit said they will reassess the rollout plan and evolve the product to meet the needs of our community The board of ICANN voted to reject the sale of the dot org registry to ethos capital Siding concerns on how ethos would use the registry to pay down the 300 million dollars in debt that the acquisition would require The internet society currently manages the dot org public interest registry and announced plans for the sale back in November The deal also faced scrutiny from California Attorney General Xavier Becerra as well as several ICANN founding members the US House Judiciary Committee called Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos to testify before Congress whether Amazon's Associate General Counsel Nate Sutton lied When he claimed Amazon did not use third-party seller data to develop its own products Sutton said that to Congress now Congress is I guess they didn't want to ask Sutton because he might just lie again So they're gonna ask Bezos Wall Street Journal reported April 24th that Amazon employees are using such data for such purposes Amazon released a statement last week saying it does not believe the claims made in the Wall Street Journal article are true Nvidia Chief Scientist Bill Dali released an open-source ventilator hardware design called OP vent or op-vent the ventilator can be made with off-the-shelf parts that cost less than $400 it uses a solenoid valve to control airflow and flow meter for precision delivery The design is yet to be cleared by the US FDA and Dali is seeking manufacturing partners till to make it at scale In an interview with CMBC Xbox Chief Phil Spencer said the launch of the Xbox Series X is still on schedule For a holiday release this year But that game production is the big unknown some titles for the console like Wasteland 3 and Minecraft Dungeons have already been delayed due to work disruptions From sheltering in place with Halo Infinite the only first-party title that is confirmed to launch on the Xbox Series X Microsoft is hosting an online event next week to highlight third-party games for the console So we'll find out what will come at that point epic games announced the cancellation of the 2020 Fortnite World Cup citing the limitations of cross-region online competition making it impossible these for now The company will continue to support third-party events But these and all other fortnight events will remain online until further notice all right We gave you the top line of Apple's earnings yesterday. Let's talk a little bit more about what's going on with them revenue growth last quarter of 1% year over year which normally would be a disastrous report But with overcoming shutdowns to Apple stores worldwide in March and in China in February along with disruptions to the supply chain as being seen as a fairly decent report wearables revenue rose 23% on the year iPhone iPad and Mac sales decreased 7% 10% and 3% respectively sales in China fell one billion dollars year over year But of course the majority of the quarter was with China in lockdown only the very end of the quarter was in lockdown and the other Parts of the world service revenue was the big bright spot rising 2.2 billion dollars to 13.3 billion dollars Apple said it reached 515 million subscribers across all of its offerings music TV, etc with Apple news up to 125 million monthly active users Apple CFO Luca Maestri did say that Apple care and Apple advertising part of the service revenue would be negatively affected in the next quarter lowering that revenue Tim Cook said that sales were recovering in the second half of April the supply chain was in his world's full throttle at the end of March Apple has open stores in China South Korea Hong Kong and Taiwan at this point has plans to reopen stores in Austria and Australia in one to two weeks followed by a few stores in the United States sometime by the first half of May and Apple employees are not going to return to the Cupertino offices until early June at the earliest Early June would be the the soonest that they go back to the main campus So some good news and and some some tepid news there, but nothing horrible Yeah It seems like when you look at you know the fact that Apple is so so reliant on a supply chain That is that runs smoothly and looks really far ahead into the future. This might be a blip a blip quarter You know it the fact that Apple You know took a big hit in China. Yeah, it might just be well for those three months You know a lot of people did or a lot of companies did rather the fact that wearables are way up is that's you know a bright spot and that's been a trend that's been continuing for quarters now and Yeah, I mean if by the end of this year We've kind of caught up and iPhone Shipments even if it's even if they well if they if they indeed are announced and and Unveiled when we expect them to be a short delay or you know maybe a stagger delay for for various models is Not unheard of Apple's done it before Would would kind of you know it was kind of show Apple's like all right Well, you know we could sort of figure this thing out because we had looked so far in the future Yeah, I mean China the China market saw a wall way grow its market share and Apple grow its market share Which is which is good news. That's according to Canalist And yeah, Apple won't forecast their next quarter though They won't give guidance on what they think is gonna happen because as good as all this sounds It relies on the economy coming back into full swing and Robert I don't know if you have anything to add before we move on but that that kind of is the big question mark for all these companies For me personally It's more about the workers who are being hired and how many of them actually have things like basic health care it's it's nice that Amazon's providing protective equipment and And yeah, they've increased their pay But I think more important for a lot of people right now it'd be to have a job that actually covers you in terms of your health Providing and having that square way without it costing you a fortune So we're talking about Apple here not Amazon So in that case it seems like Apple's been doing a pretty good job of keeping people online If if at all doing anything it seems to be they furloughed a few people, but they haven't laid anybody off and exactly and As far as I guess for Amazon though, we haven't got to have we haven't got to Amazon hold your thoughts on Amazon Shut up We we we I assure you in just a few minutes. We will be talking about Amazon at length But let's talk about a Amazon competitor first Walmart confirmed plans to launch a new grocery service called Express which would provide a two-hour or less grocery delivery for an additional $10 fee That kind of sounds familiar like another kind of delivery service Doesn't it the service has been in testing in 100 US stores since mid-April and Walmart plans to expand to 1,000 stores by early May expanding to more than 2,000 in the coming weeks Express delivery slots will be available when traditional delivery isn't available same day or even days out But Walmart says it won't push back standard delivery orders to make capacity for Express Aha Walmart says we see you Amazon and we raise you not doing that Yeah, this is a smart move by Walmart to take advantage of Amazon's inability to keep up with the demand and say hey, there's there's more demand than they can deal with let's take some of that on The only way this backfires is if Walmart can't meet that demand if suddenly you're like hey I heard while I'm paying this additional fee and now I can't get the grocery delivered to me that I expected to but a Bold move by Walmart to try to get into that technology logistics fast delivery Situation at a time when a lot of people need this they a lot of people need grocery delivery All right, let's talk about Amazon Amazon reported revenue rose 26% last quarter subscription revenue rose 28% Advertising revenue was up 44% AWS cloud service revenue rose 33% But profits dropped to 2.5 billion dollars from 3.6 billion dollars last year. Well, that's odd They're making hand-over-fist money. Why aren't they profiting off of it? Well, Amazon Says this is not gonna get better. They're forecasting a 28% rise in revenue next quarter But a quarterly loss for the first time in five years Jeff Bezos expects to spend four billion dollars or more in the current quarter on COVID-19 related expenses and that's where the disconnect is yes they're bringing in more money than ever but they are spending that money they say on protecting the workers Amazon hired a hundred seventy five thousand people this quarter. That's a lot That's an increased expense alone. They say they spent three hundred million this quarter to develop virus testing capability Amazon is also raised warehouse worker pay and is paying for the protective equipment Masks and such it also notes warehouse efficiency has dropped as it attempts to maintain social distancing at work sites So that's part of the reason that they're having delays with their shipping Amazon Prime's goal of one-day shipping hasn't been canceled, but they have put it off until later this year They're like, we're probably not gonna get to that Q2 maybe Q3 maybe later So before we get to the worker side of this Robert How do you feel about Amazon saying look when we're gonna be going back to the old ways of not having a profit margin? Because we want to spend this money on protecting workers That is a good thing without a doubt I mean, this is one of the richest companies in the world in terms of how much money they pull in and even during say a lockdown situation Amazon web services are still chugging away. I know many people still working from home Working on projects or services that depend on AWS and for that It's the least they can do and I would I would hope that more people simply pay attention to the workers themselves in terms of any kind of collective voice they may have in terms of anything they might need in terms of just Basic services could be anything like improved health care and hopefully like they're saying the ability to develop improved testing for that many workers especially in warehouse environments where Distancing may not always be an option and it would be good to just know that at least your co-workers have been checked And everyone's got a good assessment of how they're feeling Well, it's a good example of like you mentioned Tom It's like they're raking in so much money, you know, and it's easy to kind of be like, okay Well, if Amazon's out of everything that that means demand is up So like it's complicated behind the scenes, but they're still coming out ahead Well, Amazon spent a long time building to become the company that worked really well until a few months ago so what happens to what what with all the scrambling that that has to happen behind the scenes it Costs money and it takes time and they're not out of the woods yet. And yeah It's it's we are seeing the you know talking about quarters and and profits and and financial outlooks This is a great example of a very very successful company that's had to you know, really go back to the drawing board Yeah, and it's Jeff Bezos motive operations to to spend money close to the bone To do what it takes to get profitable They did that in for for the entire 2000s in order to get to those five years of having profitability I remember we joked on DTNs the first time I was on record reported an actual profit rather than a school squeezed profit margin That was like, oh my gosh, the day has come that has become the norm But now they're going back to it for a different reason In and short of accusing Amazon of committing securities fraud One would assume that they are spending this money They're they're not pretending to spend the money So you could think if you're listening to Amazon side that the workers must be pretty happy that they're spending all this money to take care of them But they're not And in fact, it's not just the workers from Amazon who are upset and worried about the safety of their work place May 1st today is International Workers Day and Employees not only from Amazon and Amazon's Whole Foods, but Instacart FedEx target shipped and Walmart have joined in a Work stoppage to protest working conditions Instacart workers want better distribution of protective equipment They say they've been told they'll get it, but they're not getting it Whole Foods Employees are calling to have locations with positive cases shut down for 14 days to prevent infection of other workers Amazon delivery service partners are asking for professional cleaners to sanitize vehicles at the end of each shift rather than having the drivers do it Themselves Amazon employees are asking the company to be transparent about the number of cases at Amazon facilities Amazon is informing directly the workers affected, but they're not going public in response Amazon said that masks temperature checks hand sanitizer increased time off increased pay and more are Standard across Amazon and Whole Foods market networks already Target told wired the concerns come from a very small minority Instacart said it has already invested nearly twenty million dollars in the last few weeks to support the health and safety of the shoppers Now we're talking about work stoppage today in the thousands It's not nobody and and even the most optimistic is not putting it at the tens of thousands so You could be forgiven for saying well That's not very many people as a percentage of the workforces of Amazon Whole Foods FedEx target ship to Walmart It's a very small percentage of the people But the point of these kinds of protests is often to get attention for the problem You don't have to have a lot of people out there to get a company to change So the question then is do we do we think that it's a case of the company wants to do the right thing? It's just taking time to get we know how hard it is for frontline workers and health care facilities to get masks and stuff Is it just taking a long time for Instacart and others to get this stuff? Or are the companies dragging their heels and they should do better? I Mean I think in many cases the companies And they were talking to companies of various sizes and they do things differently But companies saying well we've put a lot of security measures in place and the workers are like we're the ones working here We assure you you are not doing enough. We do not feel healthy. We do not feel safe So I think there's in many cases a disconnect, you know Amazon saying well, we've done all these things This is all standard practice workers saying well people are getting sick in warehouses And we need to figure out, you know how drivers shouldn't be wiping down trucks and doing it wrong You know there needs to be you know professional people that step in at certain points You can do better and I think who is working on the front lines I know that's a term that's thrown around a lot But the front lines of companies like this I mean that they are the people that you need to be listening to Robert I am in full support of everything just said and I also think for folks Especially in my local community the the shopping centers the the grocery stores in particular are some of the places I worry about the most and I have directly seen some employees not doing everything they could personally And that makes me then wonder about the company themselves actually providing that training or the materials or the masks or whatever to keep them safe doing these literally a frontline job and Anything anything that can go toward making that a better situation has to be done and it's this is a grand opportunity also just to to help the people who are In the most need and cannot speak for themselves be it in some of these health care facilities we're seeing for extended care or or Places where people have to live for long term are probably affected far more than most people realize in addition to Just I see kids nowadays The young people I work with on a weekly basis just wondering how the hell they're gonna get through this grade And what will come next seeing how their ability even to sit at home and learn has been An experiment at best and not always working I Think it's easy to armchair quarterback this and if you want to to to side with the company or if you want to side with the worker It's easy to accuse the other side of lying and not doing enough Or or being disruptive and over-representing a problem But if you actually want to get to the to the truth of this if we want to be able to trust That the people complaining are just the fact that there's always complainers and that what's being everything that can be done is being done There just needs to be a lot more transparency Especially from companies like Instacart target Walmart Amazon that are providing us essential goods We as consumers I think want to know that the people that are delivering those are being taken care of that They're going to stay healthy Not only are they not going to infect the package they're dropping off But they're not infecting each other and putting themselves in more danger than they need to in order to make this work So I who let whatever side you're on I would like to see more of that And and more of that kind of transparency rather than just sniping in the public record Totally Oh, I'm sorry. Just a quick mention. I will say my local County in terms of their health officer put out a statement two days ago in terms of how we're going to be reopening our Businesses here in the next month some businesses will be allowed to reopen it in a limited basis right now But most of our businesses are still closed down And I spent the better part of my morning putting together a document for the city to describe exactly how that Interaction is going to take place and how we will keep people safe And again, I'll go back to our health officer of this county did a really good job in preparing this document and providing some Templates for people to use to say, okay, here are here's a checklist of everything What in that category are you doing for visitors and different types of businesses depending on how you interact with people in the community? So I'm actually quite pleased with the local response so far and More power to them. Yeah, and it just goes to show how complex a situation this is It's not dump a bunch of masks at the warehouse and say good luck, right? It takes a lot more than that totally and there are they are focused on different types of businesses And who has more direct communication or direct interaction with your local community versus say somebody who is Working from home generally or doing in my case clientele work and business online as well. So thank you A couple of surveys are trying to get a sense of how tech usage has changed since the advent of COVID-19 A survey from NPR and Edison Research says 35% of US smart speaker users are listening to more news and info 36% listening to more music That number gets bigger the younger you are 18 to 34 year olds more like 50% and 52% Smart speaker owners who work from home more likely to request news less likely than folks who are still going out to a work site To ask for weather or time Number of users considering buying a second smart speaker for kids has rose and it was 47% last spring at 71% now and Tablet usage is changing sensor tower notes iPad downloads rose 40% in Q1 the first year over your growth in iPad app downloads since Q4 2013 Also spending on iPad apps rose 16% the biggest rise since Q4 2014 games and entertainment lead But education apps as you might guess came in third topping a hundred million downloads for the first time So real quickly around the horn Is this ring true to you Robert? Oh without a doubt I only wish that if you're gonna hand your kid a AI assistant that it would somehow enable some way to encourage them Manners or asking and saying please Kids simple a simple tweak Sarah, what about you? Yeah, I mean I love the idea of I know if especially for families and the kids being on the younger side some pretty frustrated parents being like I'm not a teacher should go do something child and The image I have in my head of you know a little kid getting you know a speaker assistant and being like what's four plus four You know, it's amazing what you could probably Stay entertained with and still learn something using the limited AI that we have at our fingertips now But yeah, I know for me. I'm in a particular room in my house Kind of you know, I work from home But I'm in that room more than I would be if life was normal quote-unquote right now. And so I am Interacting with my smart home more than I would so yeah I mean all of this going up makes sense to me particularly for news because instead of Commuting in your car and listening to your favorite, you know news program or music or what have you it's all happening in in another place Folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines comm Now as we said doing a lot more from home, obviously one of the things we're doing is is watching TV as we just heard listening to music Everybody talking about the streaming services and the streaming boxes and I do need to do I need a new TV, but what about your home theater sound? Robert, why would we want to upgrade our home theater sound? Because it is literally I'd say more than 50 percent of the whole experience I think it's even a greater impact than the visual you can have a very tiny screen like literally your phone itself But if you have a good pair of headphones on it almost takes away that limitation of screen size itself Also, you may have issues related to Just the fact that TV speakers in general sound like crap and they are they are the least Cheapest part or they are the cheapest part on most TVs you'll find nowadays so if you have any kind of hearing issues whatsoever and clarity of voices to Just overall sound is missing from your life Then it's definitely time for an upgrade also consider that folks like netflix and other streaming providers Their in-house content nowadays is all being authored to Multi-channel three-dimensional Dolby Atmos audio in addition to the cool Dolby uh vision visuals now Other streaming sources as well as your broadcast sources and gaming services are also taking advantage of Multi-channel sound, but even beyond that if you're still stuck with the just the tv speakers It is it is easy and affordable to do a good upgrade that will bring you daily joy How do you make sure you're getting the most out of what you've got from your tv? Well, it depends uh for one I think if you have one of the new premium TVs Take a look at some of the features that you may just simply have not explored I'm more of a video guy, so I tend not to look at the audio options very often But on a brand new tv I purchased about six months ago It turns out that the microphone built into the remote can act as a room audio correction device And actually help improve the tv's audio a little bit with the built-in speakers and Also take a look at the different sound modes that might be built into a tv Some like I mentioned can be useful if you have any kind of hearing difficulties Were voices and spoken dialogue arenas or arenas pronounced as they could be There are often sound modes that can enable that Also, if you're trying to keep peace in the house, there are often compression or night mode listening Settings you can play with to help keep the boom to a minimum But at the same point if you want the best experience possible make sure at least those things are turned off A lot of folks are are sheltering in place alone right now. They're the only ones in their house But not everybody is so you might want to invest in a pair of headphones You may already own a pair especially maybe you have an older pair of bluetooth headphones And your tv has bluetooth audio built into it and that can be a fantastic convenient way To just simply enjoy a little privacy and in taking that full experience from the content we enjoy so much Be it, you know your broadcasted news programs all the way to the best content from our Our beloved streaming providers And and in fact, even if you're in the house alone You don't want to if you've got headphones and you don't want to pay for new speakers That might be a way to to handle this too because you don't have to worry about sharing the audio with anybody else But soundbars are probably the most common way right without a doubt That's probably the easiest single upgrade Beyond what we'll talk about next but for soundbars. I always find that no matter what brand you go with They tend to always sound a little bit better if you are using a subwoofer with them Often these will be just a wireless link to the original soundbar That makes it really easy to set up you can literally just plug these in and stick them in a corner somewhere That they're out of the way yet still provide that low bass low frequency rumble that can Really is the part of the sound frequency that takes the most energy to reproduce and it can often overwhelm lesser speakers So pairing an okay soundbar with a decent sub or even a low-cost sub A good sub starts at a hundred bucks. But anyway that that can really go a long way toward just Turning your your regular presentations into something a little more special Also, if you have a mounted tv Investigate mounting options for your soundbar. I find depending on the position of the tv You may find it desirable to have that soundbar on the top edge of the tv or the bottom edge Realize that there are affordable options for getting that hardware You need universally speaking to get that mounted just right and also too if you're dealing with an articulated mount Think an angle left and right. It's nice to have that soundbar mounted So it's actually pointed in the direction that you're actually looking at it and finally if you are Looking for some reviews and good guidance. I love the folks over ratings.com RTI ngs.com. They do terrific testing and they have a great resource in terms of Uh, how they actually do their testing as well as if you have q&a They dive right into it And finally, I was gonna say I was gonna say like, okay If I want to find that sub one hundred dollar mythical soundbar that you mentioned That would be the place I would look for it, right? But what if I'm like, I don't care I want to stop messing around. I want the best Couple options one there are premium soundbars Including features like dolby atma support to provide a very convincing at least greater than Two-channel audio experience that I love also some soundbars Incorporate ai assistance that can make usability of your home theater gear kind of nice It is sort of sweet to have an ai soundbar where you can just walk in the room and say turn on the tv And it just comes on or play this content on that service and it just does it That's pretty sweet, but in the end if you really want the best room filling audio experience and you have the budget and the means You really want to do something that supports dolby atmos in particular having the height channels The speakers in the ceiling firing down at you is is the most ideal setup There is you can have anywhere from two to eight speakers above you with consumer hardware available today And the first time you actually do the room calibration on something like that Either with the built-in tool in an xbox or you're running your favorite test from built into an avr it it is fantastic and Like I said with more streaming providers, which is one of the biggest ways we we receive our content Moving towards these 3d audio formats and delivering them and with the next gen ATSC standard coming up for just broadcast improving 5 1 quality in that respect It is never been a better time to have at least as far as your tv's concerned the best audio experience you can have and And it hits just about any price point In style and configuration depending on either your room size budget or what you're looking to do Well folks, uh, the only thing you have left to argue about now is what what is the best sound quality? What is what makes good sound quality sarah? Where can they go to argue about that? Oh our discord tom. I never thought you'd ask in fact if you're not already in her discord And you're like, I'd love to argue. That's what I do best Then you and I should be friends and you can also link to a patreon account at patreon.com All right, let's let's uh, let's play a little A little um a voice call from allison chariden friend of the show Frequent guest who has a recommendation for another podcast that might be worth your time for a very specific boat-shaped reason I have to admit that i'm getting a bit of fatigue listening to people talk about contact tracing by google and apple Sorry tom Anyway, when I started listening to text message 204 and Nate Langston said he was going to explain it I actually started to switch to another podcast But then Nate started it as a story of two fellows inexplicably named Jeff and boat-shaped head And how these two lovely gentlemen were near each other at a shoehorn shop I had to keep listening If you haven't been able to wrap your head around how two phones can collect the necessary data To know who you've been near without invading your privacy and sharing your location I have to highly recommend listening to Nate's story Even though you're going to have to figure out what somebody would look like with a boat-shaped head Anyway, you can find text message at uk techshow.com or in your podcatcher of choice That's fantastic. Yes, we love Nate, uh, and you'll hear me talk about what's on dtns On text message as well. That's uk techshow.com if you're a patron you can even find out the back story of the boat-shaped head person All right, let's check out the mailbag Comey wrote it and said on the topic of ai's ownership of a patent and whether or not that's going to be possible ever He says well, he reminds us really of that monkey selfie You know the one famous among photographers kind of smiling real cute because the photographer publicly said he let the monkeys take selfies Says comey. He lost that copyright dispute more importantly the copyright office said it only works That only works created by a human can be copper copyrighted under united states law Which excludes photographs and artwork created by animals or by machines without human intervention Comey says, I don't know too much about patent or copyright laws But isn't ai kind of like smart animals right now That's a good comparison copyright and patent are different comey acknowledges that But could you say that well if an ai makes it then nobody owns the patent again Intellectual property lawyers, please respond to both this one and the one for the yesterday. I'm very curious how you feel about all this Shout out to patrons at our mastering grandmaster levels including a bread chic paul boyer and dustin cambell Len peralta has been busily drawing today's show. Len. What have you drawn for us today? Well, you know last summer I took the plunge and I redid My home theater system and I got to say I agree with robert that the sound is Amazing dolby at most is the way to go I don't have a five a seven two or seven four, but I have a five one And the image I drew today is kind of a classic take on that old max sell add This is also an apologies to bloom county's berk breathed here. It's the old blown away Image of a little kid sitting there drinking a capri sun and a small little Speaker just kind of blowing him away there Because those are the size of the speakers i got real small they're just it doesn't matter if as long as you get really really good speakers Um, the sound is going to be fantastic. So, uh, so yeah, so this uh image is available right now at uh my patreon patreon.com Forward slash len or set my online store at len brawl to store dot com No, will max sell be suing you for that? Oh, well, they'll have to sue berk breathed as well Exist first. Yeah Good stuff len also good stuff from robert heron. So nice to have you on the show with us today robert You keep very busy. That's obvious where can people keep up with everything you do Hey, follow me on twitter at robert heron or check us out me and patrick norton are still doing abxl I'm actually backed up. I have two episodes that are be posted here as as soon as I freaking can And I'll be doing that this week. But yeah avx ex el dot com if you want to find us there From time to time we've been taking this part at the end of the show to kind of send you to something else A creative pursuit worth paying attention to jeff wrote in and said I happen to be very lucky and i'm in a good situation during this pandemic So I figured it was my duty to up my pledge and keep you all going and help out those who also love Your show but aren't as fortunate to be able to continue to support Please keep bringing the amazing daily content also for tom I am a sci-fi fantasy nut and finally picked up pilot x. That's a novel. I wrote I he's jeff says i'm about 75 through it and wow it is incredible I can't wait until my work day is done and I could pick it up again Jeff you don't know how great that made me feel when I saw this. Thank you so much So, uh, yeah, if you want pilot x or trigger Uh, which is also a pilot x adventure you can go get it at tom's new book dot com If you got something you'd like to email us, but just aren't sure where to send it Well, I have a solution for you feedback at daily tech news show dot com is where to send those emails And if you'd like to join us live for 30 p.m. Eastern 2030 utc is the time join us Find out more at daily tech news show dot com slash live. See you monday folks. Have a good weekend This show is part of the frog pants network Get more at frog pants dot com I hope you have enjoyed this brover