 Boop boop boop boop All right, guess we're streaming I guess I'm recording Bob Okay, glad you take mailed me a new mouse when I get home. I'll see if it scrolls Then I'll just you know this mouse is basically perfect this g502. I just got the Normal razor mouse with a wire. Yeah, why I always wire. I'm never not wiring Oh, that's so nice to have not have a wire But it didn't I figure if the I like the shape of the wireless one that was with the bad wheel though Everything about the bad wheel mouse is good except for the bad wheel on this one. I broke it just because of strenuous play, but I fixed it I actually pulled took it apart and I put some jimmies in there and I fixed it It's perfect other than that bad wheel So if the new one works and I don't know if I'll take that one to work or take the razor one to work And then I've got two mice that are backup mice that totally work They're just all beat up and dirty because I will say this mouse, too I think is a perfect mouse like I have no complaints about this mouse. I love the hell out of it Especially with the thumb shelf I don't like them show. I like them shelf a lot because I use my thumb a lot All right, let's get started It's Wednesday, July 25th 2018 I'm rim. I'm Scott and this is Geek Nights tonight. We are reviewing the anime sells at work What's it called in Japanese? Doesn't say it in Japanese in roma on you here You were really quiet Hot track who cyborg oh We already got some people watching all right go away people watching You must have a life somewhere where you can do the siren call where we're siren where you can do a productive thing And even if you are one of those people who I think is dumb putting shit on in the background Which means you're not paying attention to which means why you've been doing it at all I will admit Scott. I put the final fantasy six glitch list a hundred percent run on in the background and half Do you remember anything from yeah? I remember a lot of things from it. No Anyway, there's something better. You can choose. No, I think this is pretty good Yeah, in fact, this is the final vending six glitch list Peter has probably better than that trouble is it's like six hours long That's six hours. You won't listen to us, which is a good idea All right, let's do this. Let's see. I got an opening bit. He's to come out the ride, too So, yeah, we did that bike ride. We also had to camp in A pretty heavy rainstorm. I think you had to get up while the rain was still going to start Well, so what happened is I you know before the night before I'm like, well, you know It's if it rains as long as it's not raining so hard that I can't bike at all, right? It's not won't be and it's like because what am I doing after biking? It's not like it as long as I can bike safely. It doesn't matter if I'm wet. It's not like I'm going So in my opinion no amount of rain by itself makes biking unsafe I bite home from work in New York like seven miles. They're in Driving sheeting rain. I have been caught in driving rain The problem is there are occasions where if the rain is too much You can't go as fast if you're got to go up a steep hill in its rain It might slip and fall down because not enough traction If you could see if going in a straight line uphill you could slip in the rain your tires were already in a bad Saying it can happen. No, it could be a slippery patch, you know going over a metal thing There's you know, and the rain could be so much. You can't even see You could be I bite home once in rain where I actually couldn't see I would stop and wait till I could see and then And then there was you could have a situation where it's flooded and it's too deep so one time me and Ken were biking through the woods this is back in us in high school and We're following the trail and we're pretty far away from home and just horrible thunderstorms going and we come to a place where we basically cross a river and The Clinton River and it's flooded So we just kind of biked through it and It was basically I was biking in water that was up to my neck while I was on the bike and We totally made it to the other side. It was totally fine. Yeah, I'm not doing that The only drawback was After I'm not gonna bring my all my stuff through the water Oh, yeah, see this was an error remember before cell phones let alone smartphones And I went why would I carry my wallet when I'm in high school biking around? So the only thing I had in my pocket was a key to get back into my house But anyway So when I woke up the rain wasn't too bad and I was getting ready to go and then I like see I'm supposed to Start at seven. Yeah, I didn't have to start till like 8 30 at 6 45. It starts raining like more It's not raining. It's like borderline. We're like Right, I was in the tent and I was lately or listened to that rain thinking yeah I ain't getting up yet. So I go over to the P. I wouldn't even get up and go P already registered I went to the registration booth and I was like, hey if I go and it the rain slows me down too much And I don't make it back in time. They're like, oh, yeah, I just call this number We'll I will bring you back to the beginning will parachute you to a further destiny will do whatever you want And I'm like, oh, okay. So I'm just like fuck it. I came out here and started biking There's no one else out there But there's like the one person waving me on like, all right, go ahead and I go out there and I encountered this tree and It's not a what like an end like it's not an enormous tree. It was maybe like, you know, five inches Diameter, you know, but nice solid solid solid tree, you know, not a you know It's a young tree, but not a baby just born tree ain't no twig You know and it was across the path and I could have just picked up my bike gone over and kept going But I'm like, nope. I got to move this tree. So yeah, because there's gonna be hundreds and hundreds of bikers behind So that well the bottom of the tree is sort of still not completely detached and the top of the tree as all as many branches That are interfering with these still living trees on the other side of the path So I can't move it very effectively and then one person comes up behind me and I wave at them And he you know, it's another guy biking. He comes and we both move the tree. He's much stronger than me The arm department, you know, and now there's no one else and we took us a while to move the tree. No one else came Nobody so we just start biking together. He's going on the same path as me See, I guess it's because my route actually went the opposite direction to start So I wouldn't have even encountered the tree. So I just hung out with this dude, Chris from Ohio It apparently does this right every year He's apparently 20 years older than me and we went about the same speed And but then when there was like maybe 10 miles left, I was like bleh and he was still just fine So, you know almost because I ride a hybrid and uh, but it's a fancy like it's a light hybrid But most people don't think that you could get a fancy hybrid, but I'm biking doing my thing Almost a dozen people Came up behind me On the road bikes rode next to me on this 80 mile ride and turned and said basically the exact same thing I can't believe you're doing this on a hybrid. I saw lots of hybrid bikes I don't know why anyone would say that to you So I did not see a single hybrid bike on my route until I joined the 40 mile route at the end On the 80 mile route at no point did I say a hybrid? I saw a hybrid, but I didn't I guess I don't know I didn't it wasn't any attention to what route I was on Yeah, until the until my route bumped into like the people that were going my route had this section that is That was exclusive to the baby. This is the baby hundred Which is basically go out of your way in this loop to go to a high school Then go all the way back and rejoin everyone else at the end Meanwhile, my 80 did we didn't see we saw almost nobody up my 80 that rest stop had like a few kids And no I'd like manning, you know a table full of snacks and nothing else My 80 mile mile route did all the two hard parts of the real hundred But then it skipped this like 20 mile section at the end that was not hard But I didn't I'm glad I didn't do that last 20 miles Hmm Anyway, but yeah, and then I saw a former co-worker there. It's just like, oh, you know, right free foods One thing I thought was funny though is 100 of the people who made a comment about my hybrid I passed and never saw again, so But anyway, it's not a race. No, but I like to go fast. I made good time I averaged about 14 miles an hour including breaks, which is pretty good For a ride like that. But anyway, it's anime day So we're not going to talk about biking anymore unless we're talking about a biking anime And there's a lot of news because sdcc just happened Even though you should probably never go to use it We're usually mad short on Wednesday news. Now we've got a big pile of Wednesday news We're going to use it all up and then we're going to be out in two in two weeks You won't have any so let's start with yours. What do you got here? So at sanio comic con they have the eiser awards So the big news with the eiser awards this year Is that for the first time ever what what actually award did they give rumiko takahashi? This is your news. I didn't read shit. Yeah, whatever award she got is an award of the voter I give voters choice a hall of fame So I guess she's the first woman in the eiser awards hall of fame Well, the headline says it best awards honor female manga creator writer for first time Yep, so also, I mean there are other awards that females have won It's not like the first time a woman's ever won an eiser award But it is the first time a woman has won hall of fame and also the first time someone's won best writer It was actually a tie for best writer But uh tom king tom king who's a batman guy and marjorie lu the first woman and to ever win best writer I think her book monstrous also won like best continuing series And the the tea dragon society which I had thought about buying a few times Because I've seen it. I love the art and I didn't realize it was also a web comic it won like two or three awards um So yeah, like monstrous and tea dragon society were big winners here and also another big winner was the akira 35th anniversary edition Oh, yeah, it's the best publication design. Yeah. Oh, also, I think best us edition of foreign material Oh, no, oh no, I think it was best, uh Oh, no best us edition of international material asia was my brother's husband, which volume two is coming up Oh, yeah, I gotta read that But it was best archival collection comic books and also Best publication yeah best us edition of international material went for run for it stories of slaves who fought for freedom Yeah, they separate the asia category so that because otherwise manga I guess would always win or manga would never win because they'd always pick a french thing Yeah, you know or a bond doesn't name what everyone call it Well, I mean like how the comics industry in the us just pretends that all of asia doesn't exist Because otherwise their numbers are meaningless, right, you know, it's also I guess to keep manga from beating some You know some manga cover winning best writer. I don't know if that's you know, anyway The point is so if you don't know when akira was first published in english in the us it was from dark horse And uh otomo the creator of akira He helped them flip it so it would be left to right and he also isn't I guess he's better than zero in english I mean, I can't I don't know how good in english He is but I think he had some input in the translation Uh and like the redoing of the the the sound effects and stuff like that and then there was uh That dark horse edition took a while to come out I bought it when I was at rit still was still coming out I think I finished getting it new year in beacon. I don't remember. Yeah, I vaguely remember all the six volumes. Anyway, they Put it out again codon should put it out again And it's pretty much a reprint of almost the exact same thing I think there were some differences but not major differences The new one Is the first english edition is basically the same Only as the codon should edition, but it's been flipped over so it's finally right to left instead of left to right And also it comes in a fancy box and that's what that that publication of it, right? That is what won the awards Um, so yeah, if you haven't read akira and you've only seen akira. You're That was the time I mean you're missing out unlike best one of the best manga's comics that has ever been Listen out on the actual story. It's readily available. I don't know if it's available digitally But whatever price they're charging for that box if you don't have any version of it is totally worth it Like even we as much as we're trying to remove physical objects from our personal possession It's worth it to own akira or at least have it long enough to have you even read it I think I don't think you have I read the first Two volumes when you're gaining a beacon and I never actually finished it. Yeah, you don't know nothing. Yeah So in some other news that's actually pretty interesting So if you recall there was the new york comic con which was pretty rinky dink in the early days and slowly got bigger We used to like go to it and do panels. I went to it Maybe two times I went to it almost every year because they kept giving me the free badge every year And then I'd stopped responding and taking the free badges And then eventually they stopped emailing me and then they wanted nothing to do with us But new york comic con Basically got more Painful to go to and less fun every year that ran and we're not going to get into that But there was also a new york anime festival. We started off as its own thing that I went to once Yeah, I went to it a bunch of uh, uh two times. Oh, maybe we went to I don't remember we went to it Even the last year it existed even semi independent right so right. All right So it was we went to it when it was it was an event Ghetto right and then it was incorporated into new york comic con in the in the same building the same way that an Amoeba incorporates a port bacterium into itself right it was in the same building But it was in a different area of the same building And it was sort of like it was like two conventions were going on in the same building at once But there was a separate area with its own panel rooms and a little stage And its own little biz that was physically Adjacent and your one ticket got you into both things except the new york anime festival park got the short end of Every possible right it was like, uh, you know it was like segregation It was so the funniest thing was only more crowded not human rights violating It was more crowded than the comic con part more people were trying to go to the anime part There the panels were all completely full because they didn't give enough space basically Fans of anime really wanted to go to the new york anime festival But the new york comic con only makes us money From the hollywood comic you don't make any money from fan panels Nope So they basically just got rid of the thing I remember most is that at the when it was when we went to the incorporated one Uh, the thing I remember the most is that we were doing our panel and the panel before us Were people from krypton future media And there was the creator of hatsune Miku who was like the software not the the character It was like was on that panel and I talked to him about like what computers he has a good panel Yeah, but uh, yeah, so the new york anime festival was basically destroyed by the comic con and the comic con itself Is in our opinion unattainable because it's just it's an awful. It's like sdcc, but lower rent. So Independently of that there's a new anime convention We've talked about run by all the smart people who used to run things like the new york comic con new york anime festival Back when they were a lot better like real smart people But the news here is that the new york comic con is bringing back their anime festival But this time they're doing it partnering with anime expo Which runs basically the worst anime convention, right? So anime expo is going to run a Different convention at the same time as new york comic con the same weekend in a different location Yeah, so you're gonna have I mean you're gonna have to go from the javits down to pierre something pierre 94 Ride a bike down the path. I guess so here's the thing I'm gonna point out They put this convention in a place that no convention should go. There's no subway. There's no good buses There's no hotels. There might be a bus. I don't know, but it's not it's not an easy place to get to the only convenient Way to get to this place is with the two bees boat I think as a helicopter pad next to it, too You can take a helicopter there. Yeah, even if you know if you don't have a car It's not good to go. It's not a place you can go easily even with a car It is you can take a taxi would get you there in uber But point is you're not gonna be able to switch between new york comic con and this new new york anime festival replacement thing easily But even worse because The people who are running it are the are the uh anime expo people the read right. Yeah, like i'm confident Even if you go, I mean maybe we'll be wrong. We don't know I suspect it's gonna be a shit show and it's not gonna be fun No, and so basically if you buy a badge to new york comic con You can just go to this thing because it's included But they're also gonna sell a badge to just the anime thing But I don't know if that badge will get you into new york comic con I think it will get you into just the anime part Okay, so tickets for thursday are 20 bucks Or they're 15 bucks if you have a new york comic con badge Oh for thursday, yeah, but what about the but i think friday is 15 saturday is 20 sunday is 20 I thought it's just free if you have a new york comic con badge No tickets will be available to fan very people with verification accounts So they're doing so you have to have the account the special one that's verified that you would use to buy a new york comic con badge, so if you got to pay extra and nobody's going over no one's going over there Yeah, you can basically you get a five dollar discount if you already bought a goddamn new york comic con badge To go to this that five dollars doesn't make up for the money you got to spend to get over there I do not know Why this is happening? Well, no, I do know why well it seems like a lot of the big cons You know pecs was did the best of spreading out all over the place But it seems like the other cons even you know magfest is like oh We got to have a magwest and odacons odacon vegas and it's like the cons are starting to just start more Well, because they can't things going on cons that can't get bigger They start opening more conventions in more places and that's not a good idea So anime expo has never had another con in another place They're trying to open up a con in a different place. I think there's even more factors going on There is crazy huge demand for conventions of nerdy stuff anime conventions gaming conventions comic conventions The demand is insatiable and enormous and there's literally no place in america that can actually host these events effectively But simultaneously The only way to make money from these things like real money Unless you're pecs and you know the secret sauce like pecs does really well for themselves But especially comic cons is to basically get people into your stupid event and pay for a badge And out as fast as possible You don't want people hanging out in your convention for four days Like they do it the good cons that fans actually want to go to So there's this constant tension between The things that cons can do to make money and cater to the industry versus the things that fans of cons As opposed to people who hear about a con and go to one for one day Want and I feel like this is going to be yet another one of those not fun corporate style cons I don't think it'll affect the good anime con in new york at all And we'll see how it goes, but i'm definitely not going to it October 4th through 7th. No No In some other con news that's even sadder and worse. You've probably seen a lot of Talk about world con. So we've talked about world con in the past and geek nights If you don't know world con is basically sort of like the oldest school original sci-fi con That there has ever been fantasy sci-fi con there's ever been and it's been around forever And it's the literally it's like think you know, think about the most stereotypical con of like old crusty dudes with beards This is it and what the way it works is like it travels around to a different place every year Which makes it world con and it's usually you know what they give out what the hugo awards there Or is it the now the hugo? It's one of those awards the hugo awards. Remember It's the hugo ones, right? It's not the um the other one, right the The hugo awards the whole ballad thing we've talked about this like right the way they vote on them there It's like you got to go to world con and remember that is the thing where basically gomer gate people who called themselves the sad puppies Tried to sabotage it and continue because that's the kind of person who goes to world con It's where it's weird like the people who go to world con will be like the world's best most famous sci-fi fantasy authors and sad crusty dudes with beards, but anyway the Thing the reason world comes in the news yet again because usually when I'm surprised it still exists Like who's who's keeping this thing afloat people go? It's really it's well known in popular. How many going for 76 years Where is where even is it this year? I don't know because I'm not gonna go I Even way back when we won the parsec award. We didn't even go to get the award that wasn't at world con No, it wasn't but we even when we win awards. We don't show us a dragon con. I think it was dragon con I'm never going to dragon con either but basically they The gist of this story and I'm not going to get into all the details of it because you can read this is that they have people who set up their panels and people who go to Fan run conventions at least kind of expect this low bar of how panels are run at conventions It's very rare that fan conventions have well organized well run panel content Or at least the people who organize the panel is very rare that they're good people who know what they're doing running this stuff So a lot of the problems that happened are literally the same problems that pretty much every fan con has but They're exacerbated by the fact that the people They that the the unqualified people are scheduling the panels for Are hugo nominees professional authors like people who are Professional and serious and have fandoms and know what they're doing Who aren't going to put up with the crap that generally goes on at fan conventions simultaneously I suspect that because the people who run world con are probably on average uh old sys head white dudes that They did things like dead naming authors They did things like just finding or making up bios about them and just putting on the website They also apparently took suggestions for panels, which some cons do it's always weird when cons like Collaborate the people to run magfest kind of does that What do you mean suggestions? Like the the major thing like they come to us and they're like all right Everyone tell us the panels you want to do and then we'll from there separately allocate people to be on those panels Oh, I see a lot a lot of like sci-fi cons do that It's not really a thing in gaming cons except the magfest majors, but I digress but they basically Took the suggestions from a lot of the authors and a lot of the hugo award nominees But then they didn't schedule Any of the people who happen to be women or persons of color Somehow they scheduled all these white dudes and they made all these arguments about how well We scheduled based on what we expect the attendees the core audience of world con to see and It's both I think there's basically they're basically saying I what I want to see I believe I am the core audience Yeah, so I think it's a combination of both Sys head white dude Not clearly the people in the guest and people clearly in the guest relations department aren't bad because they're inviting all these Guests is just the person in the panels department is a shit Well, they're inviting these guests, but they're not actually putting them on any panels So they could be that I'm saying if if that imagine if the panel's person was in charge of guest relations Those people wouldn't have even been at world con. Yep, right? So now I suspect that if I had to guess I'd say that half of this is incompetence And then a quarter of it is sys head white dude ignorance and another quarter of it is active malice That's my guess of the ratio of all these problems because not to name names of any particular conventions but I want to give a brief litany of Things like this that have personally happened to me or me and scott at conventions We showed up at a convention once that scheduled us without telling us That put a bio of geek nights on their page that someone wrote On their own without consulting us and they found a logo that wasn't our logo, but was close enough. So sure We showed up at convention once that Scheduled us I don't remember any of this. Uh, these were all all of these were at one particular convention. Okay We showed up one year and they Had actually scheduled the same panels We did the previous year that year again instead of the panels They told us they scheduled and I remember sitting there for now for a few minutes going through their schedule Finding the panels that looked like they were ours and just showing up to them assuming we had to run them I have Been adjacent to panel staff that did things like world con did like literally going to someone's facebook page Copy pasting information from their profile and just putting it on the convention website So a lot of these things happen Commonly at low rent conventions or poorly run conventions Usually because the people running the panels departments have no idea what they're doing I mean, they're either not paid or they're paid at best minimum wage for the small amount of time They actually work, but usually they're just not paid even if the cons are for profit So you can read this article if you want to see the real Utter shit show that this was but the result was all these authors were like, you know what screw it We're not even coming now. Never mind. You had your chance We're not even going to bother attending and now world con has responded by basically saying They're tearing apart their panels department and they're starting over with the programming Even though that's obviously too little too late, and I am confident They will not be able to find people who are competent to solve this problem in time And I don't think any of those authors are going to change their minds and decide to Why doesn't listen world con and the hugo awards only have any respect because people You know, I guess give it respect right Publishers put on their books like hugo award nominee hugo award winner authors continue to go to Yeah, why does the world con go to the publishers? Why don't why don't these a publishers? You know, it's like stop respecting the hugo award as an award that matters and stop putting it on your books Just ignore it. All right authors. Just ignore it. Stop going to world con I guess it's easy to say is not an author Someone's gonna tell me like I shouldn't tell them what to do and they're probably right Yeah, but I think there's an easier way to go You could easily just kill world, you know, the the power of the authors can definitely just kill world con Make something else make your own goddamn award. You could buy them out They I know world con has like one of those stupid crazy governance systems also, right Somebody could also stage an operation where you could basically Brigade, you know, the evil brigaders of world con and take it over You just get enough people to go there and and you know work within their constitution or whatever And you just take that thing over, right? That makes it very subtle if I was a group of Awesome, not old white dude sci-fi fantasy authors I would get together with my publishers and my fans and do exactly that and this is it But there's a save us from the world con reading between the lines of what you said If the hugo awards were A big deal in terms of like books actually selling in things Publishers would just game the system I feel like the fact that no one appears to just use money to game the system except those Gilmour gators Implies that it isn't worth their time or money do it But the other thing is if world con's serious about this and they want the hugo awards to be treated with respect You could hire one person who knows what they're doing to do this part for your convention Like pay them a birthday. They think they know what they're doing They're old crusty dudes I mean you ever met an old crusty dude with a beard who wants to get advice from someone else Think someone else knows better than they know So I'm gonna quote from this article because apparently they send an email To a lot of these people of color who and women who are not you ever tried to give a suggestion on like board game strategy to a Grognard they think they know best You can't possibly Quote there's a generation of new hugo finalists who are exciting to the nominators But completely unfamiliar to the attendees So the one of their core arguments was The white dudes who come to world con Don't care about all that content So the convention has to cater to the people who actually attend But that is why so many anime cons have such shit programming because they cater to the Instead of starting our own convention. Let's just get a bunch of money and buy world con Whoever like it has to be owned by someone we can just buy it They have a price just buy the whole thing and rescue it I know if two then we can piggyback on it's like it's like legacy I know of other conventions and then we can just get that we don't even have to run it because we're white dudes We should find some not white not dudes to run it. Yeah. Yeah, and then we can just protect it But more importantly the trust or something you got to do what packs does or what we used to do at kinetic con And actually we did really well I think is Even though the attendees of a con say they want x they don't know shit They don't know what they want you trick them you use you it's top down at conventions The people who run the convention set the tone and set the stage if they schedule things They can make those things it's not just conventions. You oh, it's all everything in life You tell people what they want you make people want what you want them to want all right We hold enough time But anyway things of the day so uh mike tyson sponge out is a super good game that i like But one one funny thing about it Well two funny things about it. So one the nintendo entertainment system like the nes its core system If you don't put special chips in the cartridges Is not really actually more powerful than an atari 7800 Like they're similarly powered equipment and early nes games aren't really better than atari 7800 games But then they did this thing with these mmc chips these memory mappers And there's this whole story of like the mmc one and the mmc three and how they can make different games and do different cool Yeah, well, I mean that's why the nes was able to live so long right the nes that at the beginning had games like baseball Yeah, and then it also had games like kirby's adventure and mario three and it's like How did that same console do both of those games the answer is you just put more chips in the cartridge Yeah, it's basically right it's like that's why the nes could live so long Whereas you know other systems right had pretty much like the same Shit going on from beginning to end But there's this special of all those chips The mmc two was special because only one game ever used it because I think there were there were more than one one game Mike tyson's punch out And even if you were a kid not knowing anything about technology you knew that punch out was just different from all the other nintendo games Yeah, there's a lot of you just tell yep Like there's because it did there's a lot of weird stuff with mike tyson's punch out But one of the cool things about it is that there's this crowd in the background Like this giant kind of dynamic crowd that's moving around and sharing and stuff and people are good at the game The crowds movement and react and the things they do like someone takes a picture Someone reacts in the crowd a camera flash hat like those kinds of things In the early parts of the game the fighter himself like the guy you're punching to death Would like twitch before he punched you and that's how you play the game But later the only way to predict what they were going to do is to notice these cues from the crowd Yeah, well because rng but you can tell what the rng seed is based on what the crowd is doing because it's only got one rng seed But it was arguably on purpose too to provide the sort of natural feedback mechanism to make the game difficult But also make it so that you could naturally start to figure things out But there's one dude in the background wearing sunglasses who just sits there He only sits in one spot like he's not copied never does anything in the whole game Except in one fight against one person There's one move where he will lower his sunglasses and go Oh Right before a thing happens and if you just so happen to punch at the moment he does that with frame perfect timing He will never put his sunglasses back up and in fact the crowd freezes And it turns out that if the crowd freezes the game freezes And once you win or lose this fight the game soft locks And cannot be continued and if you lost the fight macho man just keeps twitching his pecs forever And this video explains indeed super macho man. Yeah, super macho man. Not regular macho man is randy savage Snap into a slim chair super macho man is a different person Yes So this video is a pretty good explanation in three minutes of how and why this happened and how they fixed it And how they fixed it is pretty funny So you got a thing of the day. Yeah, so you know ever I think most at least english-speaking children, right? They uh, they learned at the foot of the doctor Seuss not dr. Sweet. No, dr. Seuss with the grown-up beats with the cat in the hat And the ham and the egg. Anyway, my favorite dr. Seuss. I don't know about you. What's your favorite dr. Seuss? You know, it's really hard to say Oh my god, I think I actually like the laurax the most my favorite is also laurax and I'm mostly I don't know why because he speaks for the trees and there's also there's animated laurax, which is totally creepy Yeah, but I really liked it because of how creepy it was. I love that laurax I love the book laurax and the movie laurax. I also really like the what the switcher room machine the one with the stars on the chests And the non stars on the chests I don't know. You don't remember that one. No, anyway laurax is number one dr. Seuss book there is if you ask Scott Anyway, so here is an article and what the hell is this? It's like a real like journal of Ecology or something right and it's written by a bunch of anthropologists and they are basically provide this incredible uh, You know very well supported scientific anthropological argument that the laurax is probably the specific kind of monkey because what happened is dr. Seuss apparently had writer's block around but like 1970 something And went to some like, uh, place in Kenya And when he was in the place in Kenya, he was bored and wrote like 90 of the laurax in like one night or something like that Uh, and the laurax and the the trees the tuff of the trees from the laurax have great resemblance to specific monkey and specific kind of tree from Kenya And Yeah, that's pretty cool. This goes that somebody would care about it that much This goes into in such shocking detail in such serious scientific evaluation It's not just like it's not just like a tweet like yo, I'm pretty you know Check it out. It's sort of like whoa, you wrote a whole scientific journal article about this Why it's pretty good. Yeah in the meta moment If you're a fan of the geek nice book club, you might be happy to know that we talked about Emily Wilson's translation of Homer's odyssey I'm just waiting for scott to pick the next book I'm thinking about it Depending on what he picks because scott said something to me the other day and what he said was I feel like I should pick a bad book No Because all I'm gonna say is that if you pick the wrong book I'm going into the forgotten realms with the next book. Oh, you know what actually, you know You see you always used to threaten to go to Send your guard icon and send your man. No, you always threaten to go to do ma. Yes I kind of I'm kind of feeling reading the uh count of money crystal again that good translation Right, but you know If forgotten realms as bad as it would be it is short It would take me like a day to read about helminster Actually, though, if I some red mages or whatever if I follow my rule of picking I'm glad that you were actually actually able to name two things from forgotten realms There's also the guy you hate with the two swords Oh dris dordan. Fuck those dris books if you there's a hierarchy of people who like forgotten realms There's the quote unquote good books Then I we all know that if you pick a forgotten realms book, it's going to be a fru fru elf book with some elvin barred sword guy Yeah, I they're basically called elvin barred sword. Yeah, that's that that's what rim played That's who that's what I played. That's what I read. That's who you are That's the top tier though. The volo stuff is pretty fun and also It's not sulk. I love it. Volo not voldo But the tier under that is dris dris like when I was 14 and these books were the best I looked down at the dris kids like, oh, what are you reading this dreck? I'm reading this high caliber elvin barred shit and you're reading about this dark elf who's so dark Oh my god At least can we read like a mind player book or something? But then there's a tier below that and the tier below that is the clerics quintet I would not make you read that Is there a book about a beholder or something? Uh, that'd be like pool of radiance style, which is also not actually good I mean, none of it's good right actually I'd probably pick a planescape book because if I had to pick the best dnd book ever It's probably pages of pain Which is Well, I mean isn't the best game the uh planescape torment Yeah, so planescape torment and the book pages of pain are very similar and adjacent to one another It starts with some dude waking up being like what the fuck is going on basically? Yes, and it actually is It actually is planescape tournament and just the the torment tournament Just the video game version of that book. So it is adjacent to our our recent book club as well Get into some greek myth the odc. Oh, I figured out what book it's gonna be. Oh, you figured it out to get a reveal now You know, we'll wait till next episode. Okay. That's fine. Otherwise Uh, because you're listening to this episode of geek nights You're obviously a fan of our anime reviews or you got tricked because but We did already review the show we're about to talk about On geek nights judges anime by its cover a youtube show that is on youtube right now You can go watch it So you can both listen to our review of this anime before we watched it and now you're about to listen to our review After we watched three episodes So, yeah, let's get right into it. I think So cells at work, right? So I actually knew about this before the judging a little bit There's basically I don't know. I think it's a manga, right? It is based on a manga Right. So what what it is is a shonen manga that runs in uh, let's see codonsha I feel like there have been other running started in 2015. I feel like there have been other anime and manga in this genre before Well, wait the genre of gejinka or the genre of like Let's go inside the body and see what it's no, no, no, it's almost two different genres Right? There's the one genre of the sort of educational anime manga such as muyashi man where it's like, okay You know, this is an anime manga with a sort of a normal generic plot But we're going to spend a lot of time educating you about a thing, right? But educating you in a extremely superficial manner, right? Well, somewhat superficial Muayashi man is pretty goddamn superficial, right? Oh, you know, it's like the the amount of education you get varies a lot, right? You could say initially educates you about cars Right But actually As awful as it is I'm going to make a true statement Yeah, is that true bra teaches you more about underwear than initially teaches you about cars That is both awful and 100 accurate, right? So Um, so there's the educational aspect But then there's also the okay take a thing that is not a whole system that is not people And personify it, right? So basically make it an analogy to teach you about the thing But also be entertaining right so instead of showing you, you know Just an educational film about the human body It's like, oh well all red blood cells will be characters all white blood cells will be characters all the platelets would be characters All the right will turn all the cells in the human body into characters and put them in a world You know that looks like a fantasy World civilization city kind of place complex You know and have them behave in such a way that matches the way the human body works to some extent You know and such and such So that's what this is. Yeah. So the show basically follows this red blood cell who follows the trope of She gets lost all the time Which just gives us an excuse to see all these different parts right It's it's it's really easy sort of trope of like, okay The first episode you want to sort of show you around have you meet all these characters? At least for one second each show you all the parts of the body We'll have the red blood cell get lost and then the second episode. I didn't watch the third episode There's only three episodes. Yep. I only watched a little bit of the third episode because I just started doing this show Yeah Well, there's only three out like the fourth one food poisoning isn't even out yet Right and basically that each episode the plot is red blood cell gets lost red blood cell encounters some harm that is coming to the body White blood cell and she has a crush on yes And uh white blood cell and many other cells come to the rescue and solve the problem Restoring health to the body. Yeah, and then there's another episode. It's completely episodic There is no connection between the episodes other than recognizing the characters at least so far The one connection I can point out is that whatever body this is Is not doing well. No, they in episode one They let you know that the body is immuno compromised to some extent And it doesn't seem to have hemophilia, but it has a shortage of uh immune look episode one I think you guess what like pneumonia The person episode two they get a big old cut all this bacteria comes in Well, they didn't put on any neosporin or band-aid. What the fuck's wrong with that flu is episode three and episode four is food poisoning So I suspect this person is making poor choices. I hope we get to do some poop in episode four I think we definitely will there's gonna be some poop if it's food poisoning But bile the thing I like this show like I'm actually gonna keep watching it like it's not It is definitely better than attack on titan. Yeah, sure Because things actually happen like Shows like this can very easily be very bland and very surface level and like not go anywhere But they actually I'm not going to speak to the accuracy of the analogies to any significant detail Because what the hell do I know about biology but the basics way less I know I know even less than the show was teaching this show Is deeply invested in making the analogies Way more complex than you would expect Like it goes way deeper like I'm not saying they try to teach you words Like they try to teach you about the different types of white blood cells like ah, that's a lymphocyte and that one's a killer The macrophages that one's a macrophage And it's shockingly detailed in that regard like I like how the platelets are just these cute little kids and everyone when the show Tries real hard to be cute and it kind of works because they are really if you like cute things But I think the the most interesting part of this is that It also doesn't go out of its way to overexplain things like the analogies will just sort of fit If you are going to be a super stickler about like if you actually know anything about biology And you're one of those people who's like it's not exactly perfectly accurate Well, you're going to be pissed off at the show But it's also way more accurate than you would otherwise expect Yes in like there's a naive white blood cell like a naive t-cell in episode three And he's scared doesn't know what to do and then a dendrites tells like listen, dude It's okay And he tells him what to do and then he evolves into the like the right kind Like it that's kind of what happens in the immune system Like it follows that to a pretty deep level, but it also it'll use proper pronouns in a plausible context But it won't then always just have a character explained like the spleen is where x happens It sort of lets you the viewer Figure these things out on your own I actually really appreciate that because in the first episode the red blood cell gets lost and she accidentally goes into the spleen And there's this very tranquil looking woman who's like may I help you? And she's like I think I'm lost. She's like, yeah, I think you are and the red blood cell leaves And that's really funny because the spleen basically destroys Old red blood cells and recycles their parts So the red blood cell wandering in there that was funny and I feel like that's going to come back later But the show like a less well done show would have explained what the spleen does right there and instead of being funny You just would have dragged out this boring at the end of episode two the cute platelets make a big like a mesh Yeah to cover up the wound and then all the cells get stuck on it and make a big scam And it's like, oh my god. We're stuck here like yeah, we stuck here for like three days. Yep the end But I actually like to show like I'm gonna keep watching it. It's cute. It's light hearted It's basically I don't think it's not like the kind of show that I'm gonna watch Like if I'm not gonna like be like, oh my god, is there a new episode? I gotta watch it right away But it's sort of like I watched this Why not if I'm sitting around not doing much this you could there's worse things you could watch like more attack on titan I really like to tag on titan But more happens in one episode of this show that happened in like the last five episodes of attack on titan There's only one thing in the show that super super bothers me a lot All right, I'm curious. So basically you sort of have this Well, one thing that bothers me only a little bit is that even though you got this biological aspect going on The show really is just sort of a generic monster of the week or that some bacteria or virus or whatever right? But to be fair, it's just sort of like how our bodies are. Yeah, they're just fighting something every episode Right. It's still like a monster of the week. Yeah, but a positive point It's a shown in show the fighting is actually pretty well done Like the white blood cells is fucking carries a knife and stabs him to death like it's pretty Yeah, but the thing that gets me the most is that in those fight scenes I think Emily's bothered by the same thing. I think you're gonna say the white blood cell cuts up some bacteria Which is just a monster with this knife and what comes out of that monster And then the white blood cell is then covered in blood Yeah, so so wait so wait. Hey How does this Is that blood that is on the white blood cell itself a whole bunch of even more microscopic cells That are themselves personified if we were to zoom in even more I have two things to say about that because Emily How the fuck does that work? We were watching it together and that makes no goddamn sense every time He stabbed a motherfucker. Emily was like that doesn't make bacteria don't even have blood. Well viruses don't have blood Here are the two things I would say about that So one thing I would say is that in the fiction of this world Maybe the cells watch an anime about smaller cells and all the things that make up bacteria and viruses And there's little dudes running around. Yeah, but you know what even if they do it's not blood If you were the size of bacteria, so you cut one red stuff wouldn't come out At no point. Did they did anyone say that was blood? Yeah, they did When I'm pretty sure I saw a subtitle that was like, oh you got blood on you I would argue that that is cytoplasm from the destroyed bacteria or the Stuff that's inside of a virus right cytoplasm would not if they were that small Cytoplasm wouldn't be like that. They'd actually be able to see the components, right? What do you think cytoplasm is just goop? Kind of there's a structure. There's like a skeleton If you were that small that you were a cell you could see molecules like individual ones I think you underestimate or overestimate the smallness of those molecules I'm going with the fact that that is cytoplasm And remnants of proteins from the lysine or whatever that happened to those cells And I'm confident that that is how that fiction is going to work And I'm just going to let it go I'm just saying that that's kind of messed up Why they made it was a conscious choice to put that there because it's in every episode this happens Also, you know the uh All the bacterias are just like monsters and they're seen but they're dragon ball monsters and I love that No, but there seems to be some connection between them like in the second episode when the bacteria the pneumonia comes they're like Ah, it's like they knew the ones that came in the earlier episode and got killed like there's some relation between them Well, again, I think the person that this show is about is there some like boss bacteria That's outside waiting just to get this body I feel like the only fiction that makes sense is that the body this is in is actually the body of that hobo And the santa claus out there I think there's body morty I think the body is in a hospital Which is the only way that would explain it like having the same bacterias keep coming at it all the time I'm gonna go with the fact that this canonically is linked to rick and morty and it's that hobo Uh-huh There's there's a whole episode in that show where basically they make Jurassic park Does the hobo get pneumonia and then an abrasion and then a food poisoning actually kind of the the hobo is basically the host of Jurassic park and you shrink down and go into Jurassic park, but instead of dinosaurs. It's inside of the body so and it's kind There is heavy adjacency between that episode of rick and morty in this anime is all i'm saying Yeah, and it would make sense. So I mean the same universe I feel like if you're a person who's just like an anime fan who watches a lot of anime This is probably gonna be like a show that's on your list for this season If I still ran the rit anime club the second the fourth episode was out We would show this at the club like this would be a no-brainer. We would show the show right, but isn't a anime No, it's like it's like a b anime It's like if scrap princess is a b plus this is a b and in my mind b means Solidly solidly entertaining But I won't go out of my way to watch it if I have something better to watch Right, I think what it is is that it's so light is that it's almost like a convenient Which is a benefit, but it also moves because a lot of shows that are light like mayashi man As much as I wanted to like it. I got bored by it Because not a lot happens But the thing is it doesn't have because it's so light and episodic It doesn't have any sort of anything important or big tying it together. Well, so it's like it's like three episodes Right, but there is need there's nothing to like care about the old like literally the only plot is The red blood cell love oh, yeah, I literally don't care if the red blood cell does no All I want to see are individual scenes of the cells in a right there is no big plot to care about so there's no like investment Which could be good or bad. So here are the names of the manga volumes in order pneumonia caucus Cedar pollen allergy. That's very Japanese. Okay, influenza scrape wound food poisoning So I guess he skipped over the allergy one for the episode which I guess makes sense now Because I guess mass cells and all that would come up in there Uh, erythroblast and mellocytes. What cancer cells part one Cancer cells part two this person's definitely in the hospital. Yep. I knew that wow Wow, the H. Pallori antigenic shift this cancer. There's a further cancer cell arc later I feel like this person's not gonna make it. No, they're already immuno compromises learn that episode one I told you if this show ends Eventually with the person's dead and like social order breaking down and it turns into mad max inside of this rotting body I will turn this into an a-minus anime Oh, yeah, like that'll all the bacteria come in and win the end because shows like this never go there If this show it's just the apocalypse an apocalypse like a rig a real anime where everyone dies at the end If this show goes there, I'm telling you a-minus anime That would be super cool. That would be great All right, I think it was a solid show. I think that was good