 I ask indigenous people sometimes what do you think about climate change and they say things like it's because we stopped doing the ceremonies around the world the ceremonies where they say it's because you've taken too many metals from the tropics and exported them to the northern hemisphere and that interferes with the earth's energetics or they say it's because you stole the gold from the mountains and the gold is the soul of the mountains and without their soul how can they effectively administer the land where they say it's because you're sucking out too much water and the water the river no longer reaches the sea so how does the ocean know what the land needs and these seem like quaint unscientific superstitions and we know better than that don't we but our confidence that we know better than that is crumbling because if we really knew better we'd probably wouldn't be in a crisis that is so bewildering to us so anyway yeah so I would like to see a little bit of humility in our culture which comes from humiliation which comes from failure and that moment of I don't know underneath the I don't know is knowledge that can only grow when when we allow ourselves not to know and then things become possible that are not possible from the worldview and the technologies that come from the cult of quantity and the story of separation the story that where separate beings in a world of other those what can come from those is very limited powerful in its realm appropriate in its realm but insufficient to the task before us I was I have a friend from Brazil who runs a retreat center there and he was telling me that you know they needed to accommodate 40 more guests for their retreats and stuff and so he hired some indigenous builders to come and he said I'm not hiring them because they're indigenous I'm hiring comes there they're really good architects so they came and in three weeks they built a building using only materials they found on the land using no metal fasteners or anything that they brought in using no power equipment using no measuring tapes and they built this structure that is a perfect marriage of form and function that keeps out the rain yet it lets the smoke through the roof that sleeps 40 people that is warm in the winter and cool in the summer that when when he measured it he found that it was like to within the millimeter perfect golden mean proportions a building that architects come to see professional architects and they begin to weep because there's no way that they could build this thing especially not in three weeks it's so far beyond what they know how to do and it has a living presence that is almost absent in any architecture you see today as if civilization were in steep decline like why is the the built environment so ugly now anyway that is the kind or maybe you've you've you've had personal experience of of healing from a condition that medical science says was impossible to heal from that was incurable miracles miracles being something that's impossible from an old story and possible in a new story that point to the existence of a new story and I'm when I hear those stories I'm like if that's possible for a body what's possible for the body politic what's possible for the ecological body what are we accepting as limits that is just the shadow of our own views