 As her solution, could she have an engagement and then does she need to let her parents know that they do a MOTA or is it something that can be between the two of them and then she could do both so that her family are happy with engagement going along with their cultural requirements? There is yes and no. If the sister is virgin, then of course the permission from the father is needed. If she is not and she's matured enough to decide what's happening with her life, then the answer is there's no need. So there are two things here to be looked at and MOTA should not be used by some if I can use the term brothers in a very negative way for them just to say okay I just want to go with this sister let me do MOTA and another one and another one. It should be it should not be misused because this is a thick issue Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has permitted it for specific reasons when one is in need whether at a war or not it can be used for many other benefits.