 Ground 200 had me. You guys last time were up, I was up here. You mentioned something about when the guys were doing their, you know, when they flew up in the air and they had all the smoke and they monitored it. Yeah. You guys see much of that to have things like that? Oh, we could see it every day. See that, like over there is where they want to put their, their thermal plant up on top there. And they did wind tests up there. And they, most of the time it had the wind going out of that way or out over towards the boom apart and down in there. But one day he just comes straight up the valley and he went straight up and come right down along the mountains there and then it just dropped. And just all the way down into the valley floor. First right back down to here again. If it was two to three days time, well, it could just, half of the time it would be dropping right here in the valley. Well, what do you think about BC Hydro wanting to relocate us, put us down, relocate us somewhere? I don't like it. I wouldn't like to see it go through when it comes to the other generation. I don't care about myself. I'm getting too damn young anyhow. How old are you John? 91. So you've worked up in the Hat Creek Valley here in the upper Hat Creek for quite a number of years. Yeah. What kind of work did you do up there? I've done farm work and cowboying. What do you think is going to happen, John? I know that, you know, a spring runoff is starting to happen. What do you think is going to happen to the water? It's going to be a quick spring. Do you think that maybe there might be a chance of having cattle in the future of this thing go to head? What do you think is going to happen? No. If we're going to go to head, this coal mine goes to head and stuff wouldn't be able to live here. There'd be nothing for them to eat and the water wouldn't be fit for them to drink. The same as the human beings. I guess you have the same feeling. I sure do, John. I hate like hell to see this place go and be destroyed by something. You know, I've lived in this valley for, well, you know, since the beginning there. Well, I don't, I'd like to live here or be able to come back here sometime and live again. I think we could get across to the people that are in favor of the project if they sat down and listened to us and let us explain to them the meaning of, say, the Hat Creek Valley and everything there. But I think to them the dollar is more important for them and that's the only thing that they would like to see. More people and more stores, the more you sell, the bigger you get, that type of thing. It would do them a lot of good, but they sure wouldn't do us any good to prices or everything would go up. We'd have quite a social impact as well as cultural. We won't have access to our mountains and to the hunting grounds and berries as we did because a lot of the people, there's so many roads in the area, a lot of people on weekends or whatever would be going in. They don't understand what's going to be left after 35 years after all the coal has been taken out and the people just leave, whatever is going to be said, have theirs, just maybe another, I guess you might be able to call it a ghost town.