 So, we decided to extend our break just a little bit just so we could listen to some more music because we are rockers like that, we love it. So, let's say more music, let's talk. More music, let's talk. Now, the hashtag is rock tour. If I keep talking to eyes, what do you want us to play for you? We're going to be doing that. It's Halloween. It has their words. You cannot afford to be in a bad mood today. Today is that day. You're going to have a great mood. The weather is just right. Yeah, actually for me it's really working. You like this weather, right? Yeah, the whole week, the whole day. Yeah, today just a moka, I met this buddy of mine and he was like, where are you going to eat? And everything is just working out. Yeah, it's just like a Christmas, you know, for us rockers. It's just like a Christmas for us rockers. Everybody is generous. So, rockers are feeling, the two rockers are feeling generous. I can see that. I talk to him on his skills. At Filina, rock tour 254. And of course, there on the hashtag rock tour 254. Now, before we went on a break, we had our guests right here in the studio. We have Lawrence and we have Sly. Sly is a makeup artist. If you like God's makeup, right? She's a creative. I like being defined. She's a God's makeup artist. She's a God's makeup artist. We're going to call her creative because she does a lot of other things aside from just makeup. And then we have Lawrence right here who is a cosplay. And he is also, he is the founder of the Hora Fun Club. Kenya. Now, Lawrence, what has been, what was the hardest costume you've ever had to either put on or just make for you? As a cosplay, I think the hardest costume I've gotten to wear is Venom. I wasn't doing the previous Nikon convention. Yo! Out of love to have. I wish, I wish we like, I wish you could see like maybe on your social media. I wish, why can't people find you maybe so that guys can check it out? On my Instagram, at Larry underscore Sylvester. Larry underscore Sylvester. Y'all better go out there and check what he's all about. The Venom was a dope movie. What? I love that. Like, how was it high? Like putting on the costume or making it or what was the hard part? Being in the costume was quite, quite a bit difficult because you know. Alright, yeah that must have been really hard. So it's like maybe you can just move slightly. Alright, I think that would be. So that we have some space between the two of you. Alright, and how about Akara? Like during cosplay, you had an event last year. Because that was, okay, Kostopia. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I was thinking Zootopia. So during that, when you're in such an event. So if you come in a certain character, do I have to play that the whole night? Am I just come? No rules. I'm thinking like if the event is Kostopia, I like maybe Zootopia. The lead character. Nime kuja nime. Dreska, bani, ni ni ni ni. Ya, I say kanakwanga karakasungu chiflani. Do I have to play that character? Ya, ya, ya. How do people go about that? Well, for most of the events, we usually state out a theme. For Kostopia, it was a first horror convention in East Africa. So the theme was just horror movies. So if you come for that event, you just cosplay your best horror movie character. We had people cosplaying Edward Scissorhands. Other people cosplaying a couple of other costumes. So basically just do your own thing. It can be just simple. Something you can do as a hobby. Some people take cosplay seriously. Ya, the people who take it really seriously. I have a friend of mine, he is Tanzania. He comes to Kenya just for that. When we have events here, he comes just for that, for cosplay. Do you prefer cosplaying alone or solo? Do you prefer doing it in a group? Well, I'm still a newbie in cosplay. So I just do it as a hobby. The events are usually mostly the facilitator of the host. Ya, but it's cool. We have a body who really does it. He does it seriously. He does it seriously. He does it so much. He takes it at notch. He wears his metal and everything. He takes it to the next level. He is just here. Sla you have something in your hands. Ya, maybe you can talk to us about that. Ya, somebody is an artist. Ya, this is my artist. Oh, tell us about that. Maybe you can hold it so that the camera can get it. Ya, I can see something. This one is the last one. And this is another one. This is what is driving me of Pinterest. Pinterest is the source for every form of art. Ya, I got a good piece of it. And then this one is another one. It was actually inspiration from another artist. They are graffiti artists. So it's Lola and the Chib. Ya, so basically I do... I use to paint different genres. You can do mixed media. You can use markers, you can use everything. As long as it's a kind of painting. Right. Or wherever you're doing it from. Right, so you just hold your mic closely to your... Ya, that's better. What can you say at some of the challenges you encounter in your line of work? That I've been doing for a long time. And it's probably professionally this year. So maybe the challenges that I can say that I've experienced is lack of materials. Because in Kenya, I don't think art is such a big thing. Probably the cost, like for canvases, maybe if you want, you know you can get the unstressed ones, but then no one really has that time to go and stretch it, to go and prime it. So if you want to get a new canvas, it's quite pricey. And also the paintings, sometimes they go out of stock, then you have to wait for a lot of time. Right. Also the body paints, like the ones I use, sometimes they can go out of stock for like a year. It's have nothing to use. So like a year is not have any content. Right, tell us about that. That is full of your Instagram, right? Yes, that's what it is. So that is your work. Yes. You're the one who did that. Yes. The pink one, I was going for... Pink is Jew. Pink, maybe we can have the pink one right on screen. The pink one, the one with the lady. On the top right. Yeah. The first one, on the top right. On the top right, yeah. Let's have that so that we can check it. Yeah, that one. Yeah, the pink one. Tell us about that. So that's me. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, that's basically... For those wachikachans. Yeah. That is a nice joka. Yeah, now, yeah. The joka movie just came out. Yeah, this one is really cool. Yeah. Yeah. That means like your production. Yeah. Yeah. So the trailer, you can go and do something about that. Maybe you can have the joka one right on screen so that you can see. Tell us about that. The second left. It was inspired by the joka movie before it came out. Actually, it was there. Jokin Phoenix, the one that's currently showing. And then we also have the old one. So we have three other ones of each one. I'm not going to mention to people who do not like the childless joka. So I've never really done that. And then we also have Jokin Phoenix. Maybe we can just show you, if I see the image. All right, let's have that. Can we have some of the joka? I think it's on the left. Let's have the joka and the other one. She's talking about. On the second row. And at the left. All right. So how long does it take for you to come up with a look like this? Like if I need something like that. Okay, I can say. Okay, when I was starting, it was quite difficult. It took hours. But now that is, I'm doing it professionally, maybe even 20 minutes. But it depends on the content and everything that's going to be done. But something basic like this, five minutes you're done. Five minutes. Yeah. But after the painting, with the painting dry, or that is still wet. Yes, it is like so wet. Dry. And then the advantage is that it's easy to come off. So you just have to wash it. It needs soap and water. Water based. So you really would not have a hard time. So this is the one you were telling us about? No, no. It's a joka. This is a monkey. Right. Let's have the joka. Right. I'm just painting people that. Oh. So which events do you usually go to? How do you get your clients? Actually, I usually go to events like comic-cons. We have comic-cons in Kenya. We have Nikon in Mubijaba and now we have Sylvester. We've actually worked together for Kostopia. Yeah. It's really amazing for the horror characters. We even did another look with him for Jason Voorhees. Right. That is the joka right there on screen. So there's the first one, the second one. The first one, that's Heath Ledger. He was the most like the legendary joka. The noticed joka. Best. Then below, I have a friend of mine that was doing his makeup. His name is Julius, a very awesome cosplayer. He does the best costumes. And then at the bottom, the three photos, that's the Jokin Phoenix. Right. The new joka. So the trailer came out last year and I thought, why not it's going to be hit. But people are feeling it. Have you watched the movie? The joka movie? Yes. People are feeling it. What did you take? It was too awesome. It was too awesome. It's not about the joka. It's about like the story. I remember when it started, what he had to go through like from society. This is just showing you, he's just not a villain. The actually things that led to that. Before he changed, before he changed and became, he became. That's the whole deal about the movie. I don't want to give spoilers, but it's simply amazing. I know. I know. But for some other people, they thought it was too much. I remember, I remember that the production house was like, if you think it's too much, go watch Marvel. Yeah. Yeah. It was actually. Yeah. I just have to put this out. I was like, wow, that's really cold. That's really cold. That was really amazing. Yeah. That was really amazing. Was it scared or something? I don't know. Yeah, guys was a bit scared. It was too much. Maybe Marvel was just trying to push something because this amount of something is really competing against them. Big time. Yeah. But that movie is awesome because it's a real life experience. It's something that the everyday person can relate to. Can relate to. All right, you guys go check it out if you haven't already. Now, Lawrence is still here, so I'm going to ask Lawrence, we're talking about cosplay, but then there is the horror fun club. You told us how it came about. Now, for someone, do you have like specific people that come through? Everybody's invited. What's the criteria if someone is looking to come through? Do they sign up? What can we find you? Basically, the horror fun club, we have a website where you can go sign up for free. That's the horror fun club, Kenya. Yes, the horror fun club, Kenya has its own website. You go there, there will be a pop up, just sign up for free, we get your name. And then during one of our events, usually have tiny ID tags. So if you remember of the horror fun club, we give you that, that gives you certain pros and cons for events that we handle. And you know, just keep you in the loop of the events that we are having. Right. So, since the event started, how many, since the club started, how many events have you had so far? So far, we've had more than five serious ones. Yeah, the others are just like tiny meeting grades, you know, moving marathons and people want like a themed party, we go do it for them. So, you can say a little bit more than five, but we have more than 10 events. Right. Now, do you ever get like backlash from people like, yeah, because the society is so religious sometimes at a space and for example, there's one space where we had to decorate the entire venue with skeletons and skulls and you know, one Uber driver was like, I don't want to go there because you know, these people are too many. Yeah, so we have that kind of people who really don't understand the urban culture, but that's why we try to move from people's mind like, this is just kind of run of like romance, like action. We saw it. I was telling people about that. Like the reason why most rockers or most rock-related events have skulls is not even the one in his skills house. It's not because like it's evil. The reason why people do skulls is because like most rockers don't judge and the reason why they do that because if you have a photo of a skull, you can't tell if someone is black or white. You can't tell if they are fat or thin. You can't tell if they are tall or like tiny. Like you cannot tell what kind of person it is. Like it casts across. Like skull is just a representation of like we are one people. Yeah, then of the day we are just the same. We don't have skulls. Yeah, everyone has a skull. Even the guy who got 34 million watch was like they have a skull. If it's Tamula and Putia or Men's Putia nobody will go for that watch. Right. So it's just like a representation that shows like we are all one people and just because I like something different from what you like, it doesn't mean like are. Yeah, society sees things. They are like um, maybe name Christos, you are a pioneer, you are in Ushatani or something. Now, do you ever get that because you do like gothic makeup most times? So do you ever get that as well? Yes, I get that a lot. Do you have any one incident maybe you can tell us about? Yes, yes, I've actually done some makeup on my friends. Julius. Yeah. He actually walked he went to and not went. I think she can't do me one. No, he was so funny and then myself sometimes I do it and then you see some very funny comments on Instagram you shouldn't do things like that. It looks devilish but then it's not devilish, it's creative. God didn't give you the skills for nothing. Say my devilish, ask them to describe devil. Do you know what devil looks like? Okay, people are used to people are comfortable in things they know. Yeah, that's why I want to say people are like people are always scared of what they don't know. People are so scared of what they do they do not know. Something new is going to take a while. It's going to be something very different people are just going to be like, okay, I even have probably maybe relatives who are like oh, oh, but the best thing is that my mom is very supportive. Yeah, she's actually my least best paper as well, even my brothers my family is very supportive. So, how do you a whole family look? So, how do you ensure that let's say like you just did this on my face and then someone else maybe wants that how do you clean your brushes? Like, do you have any procedure of someone looking to do that? Maybe how do they go about it because I may have a skin condition and then you go do it on his face and then he gets it. How do you ensure that your brushes are like this is something you should always do in your brushes. So what you do after using them especially for paint brushes they usually go dry because of the paint you first have to soak them after soaking them I use conditioner conditioner for the hair it really cleans them. So after using the conditioner you just put them put them out to dry that's it. Alright, now for someone looking to do what you do what advice would you give them? Someone looking to get into maybe goth makeup doing like shoes because she actually does that if you need your shoes to have some sort of look maybe some art on your shoes she can actually do that so what would you tell someone looking to do that? First of all just start that's all you need to do first start and then don't rely don't have the mentality that you need someone to push you somewhere had no one had YouTube and Instagram and it really taught me a lot because if you wait for people to teach you no one people are afraid to teach others because they fear that you'll take their jobs but then there are a lot of jobs for everyone out here so if you start and use what you have actually been advised by a lot of people even if it's a very bad camera use that one because when you use that one and you start with that that's how you'll get even the money to buy new equipment so if you start and ask questions never be afraid to ask people are afraid to ask Alright, that's awesome now we're going to talk rather to Lawrence for a while before you wind up because time is not on our side Lawrence, what's the best thing about doing what you do what do you love most about what you do like being a curse play and also just being the founder of the horror fan club and having other enthusiasts come through and just share the same goal what's the fun part about that the most amazing part about it I think the most amazing part about it is getting to meet new people from different walks of life because you know what I do really cuts across every demographic to like really old people so you know feeling your ideal to them and then being receptive of it that's like really amazing for me like when you come for an event and you like it I'm like wow when you call us to your house and you want us to plan your black themed wedding they're like wow perfect that connection that connection is what we usually treasure most I treasure most that's what you treasure most your clan satisfaction right now so when you have events like let's say you had costopia costopia I don't know why I can't get that now chida matamchi now so do you usually have a panel to judge like the best look for the worst look so how do you go about it yes we usually have an in house team that is very fair and that judges the costumes based on you know what has been put in there and just everything you know so it's not something sometimes you even have audience voting for like the best thing that is on screen are or you have like maybe like on Facebook live or something so yes so you have so you post all the looks and then you have people choose which one they like the most alright so when is the next event how much does it cost who is invited tell us everything alright for our second annual costopia event the horror convention will be next year dates will be announced on our Instagram pages and Facebook pages at horror fan club Kenya but during the cost of the year we usually have tiny events like meet and greets and horror movie marathons which are usually posted on the page but for now next week we will be on the scene at various institutions like the village market at current the hub you know just hanging out you know just quite and I had a rumor there is an event you guys are doing with huge scales is that correct something might be coming up guys can just say what can I tell you look out for zombilan if you are interested in watching zombilan at a succilence prize yeah and if you are fine of horror movies this is your guy this is your time you have horror convention tell people where they can find you how they can sign up so that when zombilan comes out maybe they can come join you so that you can watch it together and that should be next week right yeah this should be next week it's coming on next week just check out our pages check out I'll be posting it mostly by Monday if not tomorrow and then we'll know what to do with it but basically it's something that's going down we're going to watch zombilan is it right so we're going to tell when is the is the right date for Halloween it's Thursday it's Thursday oh Thursday Halloween is on Thursday so that will be the eve when is the 5th the eve before Thursday the eve of Halloween or both days you can see what we'll do it's a you are rockers you can never have many parties we're just flexible you can have enough parties the more the merrier yeah exactly right so you're going to tell us where people can find you and when the next event is where is it going to be if they are looking to watch zombilan with you you can visit our website at www.mindrealmreality okay say that one more time just pori pori about mind realm reality oh mind realm mind realm reality www.wordbleed.com or on our Instagram page horrorfanclubkenya or on Facebook to a fault because we love horror to a fault oh to a fault to a fault mind realm reality and horrorfanclubkenya if you miss one you can miss all three of them seriously you can miss all three of them the details for our next event right what are your last remarks before you let you go what would you tell the guys at home or someone who's just like finding out about these for the first time what would you say I would tell them to feel free to contact us feel free to ask us anything and engage us in something that you would deem out of this world we like offering immersive and out of this world experiences so if you're looking for that please do hit us up and we'll get back to you awesome and how about you your last comments as we wind up what I can say is people should maybe for his event actually influences what I do as well so maybe if people actually try to open up their minds and see and venture into other things you'd actually find it's something that you might be interested in so be open minded be open minded that's what she's going to live with be open minded but it's good to be open minded just try new things someone was asking me when was the last time you did something for the first time what was your answer I was like can you think about it when you get back to you I knew I knew and yeah and that would be awesome but then that's nice because it was a challenge yeah now I have to think about it I'm like time to try new things I hope to be like define something alright so we're going to do this I wish I had to Felix Flex Muruku and it's about big ups huge skills always killing it we have Amos Nkuruma as always he's tuned in from Rwaka Rwaka Yay shout out to you and then we have Amos Mose and it's my tune in from Nakuru Alafumbeka Miringu and it's my watching from Isich Yes he says not into halloween vibe but to each his own play me any play me any what I've done by linking park right so we're going to be doing that his skills is still here it's going to be playing you more amazing now that time we take a very short break but stay here keep it rock tour keep it Y254