 I think we have a pretty good sense of what we need and what's coming in terms of skills training needs but you really don't know for sure until you go out and actually ask the people who employ these folks and that's what we're doing in this workforce table meeting here in Cranbrook today. When we look at the trades training system and the whole college training system we've got to make sure that we're closely aligned with the needs of industry and I think this is a really good opportunity for us to start that dialogue with the people in the east and west communities. A student in grade 10 may say you know I really want to become a millwright because my dad was a millwright but how does he get there so there needs to be some involvement from government and the round table is a great idea to get that dialogue started and we need to figure out how do we what do we build what system do we build because the way it is right now isn't going to work. Yeah I think having a workforce table is a really good idea it's something that we've actually been talking about at the First Nations level for quite some time about bringing industry and and government and different agencies together to talk about how can we you know what solutions that we can we come up with that work for us that aren't developed in Victoria or Ottawa things like that so it's something that I'm really glad to see happening and I think that it'll be valuable. We're asking people what are your needs what do you see coming in the future are your employment needs being satisfied today and many of course are saying no we need skilled people and we can't find them so that's what we need to hear we need to know specifically what what they need for training and then we need to align that training with the people who want to take the training here in the Kootenays.