 We're here with MK Here are some of the things that have been announced here at IO today Who are you and why? Hi I'm Mariko You're terrified already I'm here because you DM'd me that I need to be here. That's actually correct. That's the first correct answer So how is it you got started in the web then right rather than native? I just kind of figure that out. So I well, so I grew up in kind of like very technologically inclined family like I was I always had access to a computer and Internet from I don't know grade four or five or something It was never like oh, this is amazing I'm gonna like code like assembly in like Commodore 64 and then I'm gonna be a programmer situation I just had there around and One computer that I had came with a like a web authoring tool that was made by IBM Came with Windows machine. What I wasn't dream of either. It wasn't dream we were dream we were was college for me What was the IBM one then so this is the one called IBM home page builder home page builder excellent I believe it is developed in IBM Japan Maybe Japan local, but that was my first authoring tool and it was amazing It had a GUI like very simple GUI because it was the back then when you know, you are designing page with Flames and tables. Yeah, so making with a wig was a little frame set simpler Right frame set. Yeah menu on the side and then it could resize it as a user Yeah And then I think it has a tab to open the HTML code but back then like it wasn't you know Complicated, right? So as a elementary schooler. I was just I kind of figure that out by just praying this this web authoring tool and then Somehow I already had access to internet. So I must have searched on the internet or whatever. I Do remember I didn't have Google. I did not use search engine. It was a delectree. Oh, yeah, like a Yahoo director Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was I was guided to the Yahoo kids because I was Yahoo kids, you know yeah somehow I found out what the FTP was and Signed up for free hosting with the ad banner that comes with it. Remember? And then I followed it and started making websites I think one of the things that really brought me to the web is that how quickly you can get something on screen when I tried to do I was gonna say real programming. Let's not say real programming But what actually definitely it felt to me at the time real programming versus whatever this new thing was and like You know, you felt like you're writing loads of code and this other thing and all you were doing is outputting some text Where it's on the web you're doing h1 and I've got big text and that font red now It's now got red text of marquee now. We're talking right. It's going everywhere And that's that is kind of is that sort of instant feeling of progress. Yeah back loose. Yeah Yeah, and back then Microsoft Word had amazing HTML rendering engine. Well, you say amazing. Yeah, let's let's I used it a lot But I also at some point alerted HTML and looked into what word was generating somehow the magic that flipped me into this was like I authored HTML file, right? Open it in Microsoft Word and still active like website. Yes, you can click on the link That's true. That's true. I think it was a different rendering engine to what Explorer did and I don't know it might even be different to the one front page used But they had a support for HTML Yeah, yeah, I mean you could also write a Word document with your normal buttons make it bold make it a heading Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is so so okay as a I don't know fourth sixth grader with with no friends None of us had friends coming coming home and then just turning on computer every day after school Yeah, and just you know that box was my little world Just just because my dad was teacher at like electrical like vocational high school like you know He was a technology teacher So I had access to internet like quite early on and I so I had internet friend And it wasn't like like those like a social media thing It was somehow randomly maybe from that like a delivery thing I found this one person's website that has a bbs the bulletin board Yeah, and it turns out it was like, you know, we're both girls in Tokyo in Same grade or whatever and you know Savvy enough to make web pages, right? So I would turn on the computer Do some coding or drawing or whatever, but then I go to that BBS and then I kind of like write a letter like today Now we have like a very slow Are you still in contact? No, no, I don't even remember what that site was I actually have a person when I was 12 and I was a member of a German Java programming Bulletin board kind of thing. Yeah, I'm so you're so Really Java programming But but but you're not supposed to meet people from the Internet dangerous almost the first messenger used was like a Japanese local You or I am or I think Must be a I am I wasn't into those like a real chat communication thing when I was in Japan It was always asynchronous written mode like in a posting I see thread kind of thing Which is kind of like how our chat apps are getting to be now. It's like yeah full circle back to Friday Right see it for me. It was Microsoft comic chat. What you know, this is the thing I'm assuming that's what it's called but you went on and you picked a room and You picked a character and you would type something and it would sort of be building this this comic book Like so your character there say something and someone reply and their characters appear Never seen or heard of that and it like people will start replying going you're being really annoying Like what what is all that garbage text mean? What's going on and it took someone else to figure out. Oh, they're using Microsoft comic chat, and I'm like Yes, like what what are you using or we are using IRC? And I figured this this Microsoft comic chat was just an IRC client But it would put loads of garbage text at the start of everything You wrote for encoded images or something along those lines What signal to say here's the character I am and here's the expression I'm pulling and and that was yeah, so that was my way into IRC You mentioned it didn't we have like a widget on the side of blog or side or something that's like mini Twitter. I Don't remember this. Well, I do I do that I decided to have a widget basically type chat messages chat messages But kind of like anonymous ish Maybe like it may be in the cookie that like you know your username that you said something It was certainly not like you create a counter anything But like I would go into certain like website that I was like following right And then like look at the top page on the side corner tiny box. I said, do somebody post it in there? Also, um, well it today is my birthday Thank you very much, and you and you got me a present. Yes We're giving it to her. It's your present. Well, I'm wanting I want to explain explain. What is this? What would we So you are explaining maybe two aisles ago that you got sunburned so hard Yes, yes, and there are videos of that have it on I don't know if I'm like supposed to tell you this But you have to put makeup on like yes makeup to counterbalance your redness I went on to YouTube and I typed in help. I'm sunburned. What do I do and there was this this Tiny woman who is like hey sometimes you get sunburned and here's what you do I was like tell me your secrets little child as I'm gonna put on the green makeup What the green maker of what planet are you from and I mean it's working kind of and yeah And so I went out and bought some green makeup. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we were you know watching the keynote You're like putting the your sunscreen and telling me that story. So I bought you some shield Sunshield Sun it's Foreface and so that it didn't feel left out. I got one as well I Feel I feel yours is a little bit more stylish mine. Oh, I don't even know how well that's up for debate. I think so This is this is like Handmaid's tail style, right? Yeah Yeah, is this how I'm supposed to wear it or do I go I go also I'm supposed to go down That's like a welding mask welding mask. It's definitely something I'm going to use. I'm a little bit worried that I mean It's gonna be difficult at the airport Well, it protects my face, but there's these two bits That these these are gonna fry and kind of peel off like bad Doritos I think it's it's just a look you should own as you know, well, thank you very much This is like having team meeting in real life, which never happens because we own a different office. Yeah I oh Would you be more comfortable if we did this fire hangouts?