 which is related to the development of guidelines is important as stated also in the web side of the project to facilitate the implementation of the principles and methods developed in the other world. So it should be an attractive part to be used by comedies, for example the HIV, comedian, structural monitoring, the viewpoints, ISO, and so on. So it should be a pre-normally documents. They will be discussed with the Joint Committee on Structure Safety in the future as it was stated this morning. So we have working group 5 and I will present here briefly according to the contents which are again given. So the contents first we have an introduction. So we will plan or we are planning to issue two documents before the finalization of the project. One document is the methods and background document to be used within the General Committee on Structure Safety. So it will be part of the so called probabilistic model. The probabilistic model is a code which is giving guidelines on what kind of methods or models should be used to cover uncertainties in structural design and verification of existing structures. So it's not working as a pure code based on fixed parameters but uses a probabilistic as a philosophy to verify a structure and to see if certain targets on a liability are met according to the consequences of failure and the cost of investing in safety. This is the first document and this is prepared by Sebastian as far as I understand with some help from others. We are living behind this document but we have time until maybe to make, let's say to make it. The second document is the one mainly my colleague and myself are working in the workshops all of the project and myself. And this is aiming to give guidelines, summarize things and give guidelines for practicing engineers. Practicing engineers are engineers who have studied engineering and they are working practice. Difficulties are young engineers who have studied 5-6 years and they are working at the consulting companies or construction companies and they should somehow understand something. If I am preparing such a document I am thinking of my students who have finished and I am responsible of meeting all the students and I am also thinking how can we make a practice that people are able to understand. This is very important. So we have two documents. The second one is a draft is existing. We have discussed it in Amsterdam for this. We have discussed it in December, last April. We have been receiving comments and we haven't demanded it. And one should be, of course, think that these documents are the normative documents so they should help other standardization partners. For example, as I said before, FIW will present a new model, project teams in the European countries, IZOMOM, etc. So the ends, the ends is to implement results of the other model such as methodologies, tools and strategies. And the second important thing for me is to, let's say, structure the results of the case studies. Because there are different case studies. If you go ahead from going through all the case studies, you start again and again and you have to structure them. You have to structure them from the theoretical point of view, but also from the structural point of view. Is it a building? Is it a bridge? Is it a heritage structure? For example, is it also existing? And what is the problem? And also from the methodologies of structure. Am I used to be posterior by IZOM analysis or not? Because it's not always you. Estimation of costs. Also, we have developed a document and then we have developed also a case study on monitoring of snow load on the roof of a stadium. We selected the purpose of this case study because it's easy to be, at least according to the needs, easy to be understood by engineers. You can say something about what I mean. You can say something about the consequences of weight loss on the roof. And you can say something about the risks of using the structure. And you can either eliminate the snow or you can close the study. So this case study, which is typical for this, let's say, development of the guidelines. We have accepted already the guidelines in the application. We have submitted the paper for the ICAS conference in Seoul. And we have included in a special issue of the structure in the region, which was issued last August. So our dissemination activities. Achievements. The first one, we consider structure and monitoring in a very broad term. We consider not only the classical monitoring, but also spot monitoring like, let's say, proof loading or taking measurements. Many measurements are all of the structure, destructive and non-destructive tests. We have worked on combinations of destructive and non-destructive tests of the muscle group. We present again the description in a practical terms of the design process. What are the parameters which are important in the design process? What are the procedures? We define value performance indicators. So performance indicator can be, for example, a limit value for a snow load, but can be also the liability of the roof, but can be also the risk of using the structure. What is an example of the risk? So we can go up to one bike with a more refined, let's say, recently formed parameter. There are now decision-making here. And also the verification of the file of information without any monitoring. One can do it in advance with people still in the Indian analysis. You can evaluate this and see if it is worth of using the monitoring system. We are integrating this into state of practice. Also by using the example in Manics. It is a typical risk factor, and we have experienced in riding, let's say, working two communities, many people in the room. So it is compacted with a way of riding in other communities, and we've got also support recordings and so on. This combination, it's in the website. We have the two graphs of the guidelines. The one of the radical background. The other one for practice in the Indians. We have publications, as I mentioned before. We have presented them in meetings, for example, in the after meetings we had, and also in the FID meetings, the last one in the unions. We have presented and discussed that in your very well-organized innovation days, in this moment. And we had some reactions, especially from your friend Carlos, who wrote again an email. And he was very much going into the practical implementation, because he wants to see where to place the money. And social media, we have linked it as a search team, and also what is important, sending us some universities. For example, I mentioned this project that I presented in one of those slides. I was in lectures in Armenia and Georgia last week. So we always think to include, at least, when we do presentations in our universities, and also it's important to educate young people. They are all very well-organized, the young students. And if they have also the theory behind, this special health monitoring, it's easier for them to implement in the future tools and guidelines. So implementation of social media, for example, must be also some structural health monitoring and use of additional information and so on. The concept will finalize this. We have to finalize, so one has to be very, very fast because we finish in the beginning of next year, where they'll be behind with the first document. But I think we have now to finish, we don't have time to do more experiments. Now we have to finish and have it at the level which is acceptable. So we have still some time, however, for discussion with our working members. We might be in additional meeting before the final conference. But we are presenting a concept that we are discussing in practical interviews and in cases where, for example, I am involved in discussing with colleagues and so on. So I always, as a practical engineer, I myself, as a practical engineer, design the buildings and also redefine existing buildings. So I have one eye and the other eye as a scientist in research results. And what is important is to have, as I said always, in terms of evaluation here, but also the people working in external evaluation projects. So one has to be both aspects of internal and external. Because there's an tendency in internal to say things are very well, but we need also an iPhone outside. Now we have lessons there, but we were part of this doing that. Of course, we had some problems to coordinate and there are so different options. We finalized two documents, comprehensive one, summarizing activities and being also in a code format. The problem, myself, is that if you do this analysis, you always have uncertain parameters, which are related to the cost of failure. There are a big discrepancy when you talk about practical engineers and you are there in a session, assess the cost of failure here. If this was the way, it would come up with different results. It's not stress analysis. So one should be very careful doing these things. Sometimes it's necessary to do some writing or categorize consequences in consequence classes, as the course is doing. One needs simplifications, which should be applicable for practical engineers, proportionality. If you have a very big important reach, like it was mentioned in the page in general, which I was saying many times while I was living there between 87 and 92, one, if he has a very important structure, he has to do more things compared to a smaller one, not so important one. Then the interaction with the industry is very important and I realize that in this example, because this is important, how can I convince him? Because if he convinces a professional among them, this is very easy. One says one method, the other one is very nice. But if you go to the company, they have to invest money and that's it. It's a different thing if you sign that one thing or one thing is funny and a different thing if you put your signature on the paper. You know that also. If you see a paper that has the original signature, and I sign it and I send it, they like the accent. If it is a conference because I play their keys. If you design a bit, if you do an application for testing, you have to be perfect, but they don't have to stay sweet. Uses real life. Practicing engineer is practicing engineer. This is the word. So we have the methods here. We like to combine, of course, the methods of decision-making, so on, to deal with uncertainty. It's very important. I agree with that. We need guidance about that. So this is, for me, the important lesson and the combination of these two things. This is not my new method also. So preparation of two background documents with terminology and compatible flow charts is the outcome. The criteria for the development and interaction with other working groups. Now we will deal with case studies. So we have to listen to all case studies and see what is important from this, from this. If we include this, how can we put it inside? This doesn't present a valid application. Costs of benefit of the structure is only for quantification. Reformation is a very important aspect. And the presentation of practical engineers and feedback as we are in this room and us also in the future as far as understanding content. So outreach is something which is not easy to understand, but means outreach. Outreach, everybody has a different opinion. So outreach, for me, is to use the results in consultancy services. You go to a visa and you help them to do a monitoring program based on the decision making. You use this result of the project to be a co-covidable. We are a number of co-covidable FIDs. We are a number of bureaucrats, project leaders. We try to think behind what can we do? How can I use this information? How can I leave space a year ago to use additional information to invest money and to have, let's say, another type of verification of the structure? And the most important is to educate young people. So young people are educated, master teachers, structural health monitoring, validation of additional information, uncertainty in the world and so on. This is a good strategy for the future. These young people will grow out and we will probably retain the situation at least some of them have life. So this is, this is, let's say, the presentation behind the final part of the project. I think it was very general what I presented in this album. The guidelines were presented in this album. So this is the final stage that's here. We would like to present the first question which I don't know about the question yet. So firstly, questions with respect to the information but one, because the bias of this presentation is talked about in some ways and some ways that they are trying to prepare and I think that in some ways in some ways this is directly related to what we are trying to prepare and so forth. We have not collaborated with others but I have studied the results of working with them and we have included how uncertain this, that uncertain this has to be. Then we've reached the ASMR. I think this is a good comment. We should defer the battle with a repair specific document based on the experience of one kind of uncertainty for example the model of specific measurement of certain reasons or I would also include we have included the cost estimation of cost concerns because this is also important and I think we should have cross-reference and at certain points I would like to add to take the comment and write the mileage and include I think this is an important thing that we send in both our drafts that we get these drafts and we include and this is a good idea it is one additional step that I have made to help you to take this. We have the decision of the costs I think also that on my experience also, this is possible it's important to be on the costs could be on some I don't know some of you have said this is an important issue of the global information as far as I know it's a critical problem I believe that it's an item that's not safe to include in the problem some some possible information and that describes it's a critical thing it's a critical problem but there are some people people who go to the high market or they go to the schools of global information who say there is a concern to be which is important in the costs we have the case studies most of the case studies also in your case costs are important in the case studies the sensitivity of costs in the case studies the sensitivity of costs in the case studies the cost is important and also the uncertainty of the cost should be there with and an additional one could see if there is additional sources to provide because this problem was excavated for example we had this nice structure of the museum where they were doing the work and they were very afraid that anything which we remember in Germany the Spanish guy this was an interesting problem they were doing the dynamic let's say construction works close to the museum and they were afraid that there is no good museum so the thresholds and so on would be too much so we asked how much is what is acceptable level of information what will cause too much and how much is too much so all those it shows that this problem has its own we tried to provide at least some some type of cost and cost would be some sources possible this is also important the other level of information we are going to talk about we see life and cost we see life operation cost maintenance cost we are going to talk about this what is that what is that what is cost what is production cost what is this how can we how can we help you how can we help you to reverse those the project the best way to help us reach everybody is important so i am talking with you I think as we started, the problem is we started with other persons who had some schedule and it was not respected by some people who were open-minded, probably was not trying to recommend who would like to, I sent a present letter, I want to collect small things to send, of course, to you, the group of five, not come to fifty people, but the group of five to ten people, to get some specific comments, because if you like, in time you will like, I will not do it, because sometimes you may see, sometimes I will include it, but these comments were very specific, which we have to predict, so I would like to send to a group of people who are involved to get within a deadline some comments more specific, and we should imagine that we cannot go on that, we cannot do that. And then we will see the necessity, maybe of a small meeting with these people who were recommended, or who are interested to participate and analyze, it can be respected, it can be a physical meeting, I think this could be a help for us. We can comment up to now from some people, if you have been recommended with the experience in writing, so if you are only personally some aspects, it changes and so on and so forth. So this is the first, this is the office, but we have to finish by the final part, so I don't want to do experiments now, and that's the experience we have to deliver. We are the list of people who are interested in the understanding of the action, and maybe now there are other people that are interested, so it would be useful to send a call for continuous, and last people, who else would be interested to work on this kind of, for example, we would get more people. Of course, in such a case, we will say yes, if you see the general meeting, or if you see the names that are going on, and try to leave it out only, so personally I know, I mean, you can say here, I've sent through some of your courses, or if you, everybody will say yes, and then I don't want to comment from other people, I want from the maximum. I cannot speak, please, just to the next thing, who is here? I understand you, but I don't know. I didn't first think that we don't want to be good people, we don't want to be good. Okay, we send a call to all participants, this hundred of us. You have a question? One hundred, one hundred. Maybe we can think of the direction of any question, I understand that it's not a national issue, like maybe we already have the summits, but they're all, and maybe we make this two votes, we ask for conditions, or we ask for spreading rights of summits in our islands. But I don't know, yeah, I'm going to be ahead. Yeah, I'm going to be ahead, but it's a little bit more in the hope, that it's a little bit bigger, but it's still in the way. Okay, I will send a view and a comment, for example, because I promised, I promised. But I didn't actually vote this way because you didn't comment. Yeah, I didn't comment, but I would have a straight vote, and we started with the voting after that, but of course I'm very open right now, so I just want to say that you are to us, because we have the right... I make a move. I will... Is anybody here who would like to comment? Yes. We start, we have already voted, if I agree with Delta, we have to potentially do a good job. That's a point to hear. We also have, somehow, from all the votes, we are going to vote for... Thank you very much. Basically, what Sebastian said, is that this was discussed in the workshop, mainly the vote to... How do I present it? You vote here, please. In the workshop? In the workshop? In the workshop? Yes. So basically, it was to... To have a very short talking, the reason in a very... It's a bit of a banner, but it's the coldest in the world, because if you don't mind, it's a... a part of my voice, and maybe that might have struck in most of the... relevant outputs of this, and working on this for years. And we will, very little step-by-step approach to a more universal point, we will be back in our few decision, and we will be involved very well in this dynamic of general decision, and we will be able to... So basically, it's a bit... of a banner talking, and we will take it a bit of this kind of, at least, status, with the proper reference, but we should be in tune in terms of all the way to... what is the volume of the guidelines, and this type of coordination. In general, basically, I would say that with technical coordination, we will be able to note with a marginal output of this diagram that we also will be able to... Perhaps, your... the guidelines is going to be for a broader audience, and we will be able to... Also, non-proliferation... Yeah, in general, it's researchers, they're first stakeholders, whereas this type of coordination is specifically for these people about the need to decide what we do now. Should we do something? Yes, I understood that you, who are more or less willing to do anything, so I would hold on to the following. I will send you this one, which is a little bit more, and you can make and send it back to the proposal, and I can... But you also need three, four pages, as I said, because we know these people, they don't need more than four pages. No, but we thought you should be extra. Right, okay. So in order to have that, I will send you this, we leave them to Monday, you will get it, and also... Okay. And... and... I'd like to advise you... Could we start with the guidelines? Because maybe it would be a way to work an immediate example of what you are writing, maybe. That's true. But the... I think the based on this, what is the latest... I have seen the based on this, in the web application. They are not... all of them. There is a new one, which I was waiting to see, but it's the final state. But I think it's a good point, one should have, I say, to have some references to how to do a case study. So if you measure, for example, we have a... so we have a case study, where we just take a study of a non-study, which is something different. Then we have a case study with a group of structures like Sebastian's group, and there is a... So I think we could... I think that's a good point. Many reasons, for example. Some of the case studies, because to your analysis, so it's interesting to include that. As soon as we have a final state of the case study, so do you have a... maybe you can say more about that. Please, just as I thought, we already have a different case studies to check. What is the final facts of the case study? The final facts, do you have a final list of facts? Yes, yes, yes. So, each of these, for example, if it's a... if it's a good example, if there's also some... no, it's not a bad thing to do. You can't really see, you know, if it's other people or... You can't really see if this you sent to me, or even there, in the lab, together, in the newsroom. We have also a step of... some kind of failure, but this is also the right time to do that. So, I think now, out of the discussion, the best way to send out I have to do three small questions by money to some people with this question. And in the meantime, I can try to make these references to the case study based on when it's on the web page, if I'm not wrong. Maybe strangers in the department, maybe they are, like, completely... I'm not even sure how they... Can I help you remember in freshman? Who? Ah, okay. Okay. Okay. I think it's a good idea. Yes. This is for slides for each case study. Very good. Yes. I would like to... If we mentioned the website, a few times, we don't really have something for the case study on the website. Most of the information on the website is good. Most of the information is not good. I don't see anything on the website, nothing about this. You are visible. Yeah, you are. And there was somebody who was taking the whole time. Yes. There is not yet... Yes. Yes. And he just wrote that you made it in that time. Do you have anything to say about the sources and the studies you received in the past or not in the past? Let's come into the website. I think it was 5. 6. Maybe it needs to use a brokerage where it's almost ready to be used. And the website is quite realistic in some ways of the area as well. Presentation on the list of good information good information. What my presentation in the list of all that and everything. I'm sure we have other presentations. So I'm sure it's already in the end but I'm referring to to put it on the our team but the page is the person for the brokerage or for the other brokerage. I'm sure the team is already in the end but the area because I'm sure you're curious in the next months I think then for which of the brokerages do you want to find out this is also the idea of why we do why I asked for the fix sheets. So one second please for the fix sheets you don't have to discuss about the manner of the fix sheet. Which which are presented today more fix sheets for for this one should be the end of the Russian border. So we are I would like to come back to the point of study of organizations you've been doing this before but there's many more than Jesus is and we are connected it's IZO it's the offerings energy community by John John it's the active environment observing the broker but I think it's of some interest to these organizations and yeah this is for me as many organizations as there's no they want to be an ordinary community how do we how do we have these you have to go one step further as I said the outreach can be let's say in meetings with the gymnast to convince them to use exactly they are actually practicing gymnast the presentation in committees from IZO traditional as we as I said the presentation we're IZO and I think it's how do we have this how do we have so that it's we we need to the the request of we we we need to get the touch and we also can think of in which areas we may start with established initiatives which are again we need to be requested from this how can we sort out this process then in thoughts thought of this is to use the project projects to use the project projects we have initiated a call and so many any touch with someone who has heard the request to show them what we can do for them Mr. Bachman this is a question how do we approach the authorities that approach who is effectively the economy and we need to work out some powers regulation regulation so in terms of trying the duties of the public information now as an option in the goals on pushing so the owners is here because because of course we can sexualize owners so this is better even this budget and this so they need to see that but that should but the most efficient way is not something that you do in a shop it's a long run it's by putting this into code somehow that there is a section that it has to of course it is big but we have more and more in this project on the examples of all these I have all these knowledge that continues to be acquired should be put into code I did your code same section if they as a way you are a technique which is public information that allows you to do some things each time it's up to case by case decision if the owners people are responsible I'm sure many of you we have one thing is variations distribution and we have a model code 2020 the new codes which are under development in a model code 2020 we have already impact and it is possible to include let's say sentences part in the new codes it's a different philosophy but I am in a group which is dealing with existing structures that is exactly what it was so that's how the world is also discussed how it was important to get out of existing structures so I agree with the document which should be to have some insight we have the three standardization documents which we develop here and then the second one starting services this is on an individual basis you can start mentioning this background this documents if you need to please out if somebody calls and needs a client and offers a piece of this not only for itself or for its own and then in general yes we mentioned one has to demonstrate that you say money this is very very very important now also discussing other outreach activities because or just standardization now starting out okay because of course putting all these into quotes around has a perspective but maybe we can do something with a short time impact because when the case start it will be ready some of them at least and when the guide will be ready which will be by the end of the option we can think to go and promote this engineering role in each town a day where we present this this framework our framework but not of course in terms of people still which is too difficult but to our history we present our history then the machine works like that you name it here are the guidelines and this has a very short term of engineering you can do it in May 2019 without waiting that the books are made of course I can't say too much I'm just saying about the issue also no I'm not saying it's nothing at least you I'm just saying that this is a long term perspective but we can also a short time perspective I would just but one has to see how it will be already we are in the actual conference there are many people from the industry from the authorities so next years work here was good to present in popular unfortunately I cannot come but work here was good for example I would like to say in the example that FID has FID needed in existing structures this was mainly by Raphael Robert and they had a bullet in 80 they are doing in Torino 56 of of February for the thousands of years the debt exactly the debt for free the bulletin and the debt they have the bills and they get the conference so this can be something that's fine you know what I mean so you can arrange the FID and the debt and then you have the FID now can you arrange with some contribution at least something like that that is your emotion should we do the tweets we we actually have the designation event tool basically what you are telling now we have the tool and we have project proposal so we need someone to mobilize we as group and some of us should basically we have a budget for June next year the organization no that's a problem and we have to for example myself I cannot but just to be honest with the time limitation so this activity which was proposed by you made it have to be organized before yes I want to present a work with five session I can take up the guideline on the qualification of structural health information so we have here a another page it starts on progress so now we have a new progress I would like to tell you of the new progress I have been studying this is one more it is guideline for scientists that basically we have proposed the focus of the practice we have basically we have broken quite substantially all of your this now is the guideline for scientists it is structures basically with the core parts how do we find a regular structural health information part two part three how do we visualize structural health information and how do we assess the brain structural health information as part four by example we have the hearing and the learning of today those domains of structural health monitoring to determine this structural health information we have more broad just to focus on monitoring so this is a slide changed to the terminology and we could classify the domains in anything which shows the operation phase same parts it is cold temperature basically so here we are with design phase the large group of structures and we have the same objectives and the objectives are the utility functionality the activity and the risk and threat we are dealing with structural systems so it is operation phase there is design phase for cooking operation structural growth development and testing it is also in design phase and we are dealing and we should not forget the opportunity to see the SMX1 system structural health information system development and here we have the advanced activities in this regard especially with the structural health information quality quality of the structural health information this is what we have it is not officially working with one but we also are working with four for the day after working with five after a group of women and probably separate decision analysis and I suspect it is a system to do the question so this is always for information and here we have the risk system engineering as my favorite point is the guidelines are to solve also the context of the JCCS so it is the link and it is but it is not it is not necessarily the effect for this type system so it is right here JCCS is not the risk assessment in the engineering it is not for risk protocols whether people want this okay and so once we have set up the decision analysis and the guidelines we can then derive an organic function that provides the overall of this but this is a very long vision information guidelines pre-posterior guidelines of information of actions life-side performance and which is associated with the music of the life-side performance we think of the temporology so we have basically a sort of really loop or we consider the correlation case we have a combination of lines from one time to another then we also have dependencies for words throughout the time and so this is a thin dash lines so this is simple but not life-side life-side is that here that we have decisions and information programs and action and this is the other phase of the life-side and then the phase is about the temporology and then the other phase is about the systematic so this is the life-side and then some this is about the realization of the framework of the framework so it's about the other constitutive constituents that create states into a system that create states where this is usually the site for the project here we are designed against the failures and dangers but we should not make the functionality of the system so I protect technology this is what we have and what is providing the benefits we are not used to what it is but we think of our own decisions inside of our benefits and of course with the products and most of the time but decisions are more coming to the institutional logical core this is the information and how we learn the first opportunity is the structure of information and specifications why do I know what is the future and who has run a strong professor who has campaign as one of the very long sections towards a structured testing but not really as treated in regulations yeah it would be like if anything more checked and anyone has money is there something that the way we think we circumvent the modern identification the very we have the circumvent the modern identification but what is looking at there was anything good we could put it into information there may be different ways we could summon more specific random sections that provides an input I'm trying to understand the logic because what kind of leads of this S&I strategy why is the measurement a commission that what is that what is that what does mean it's a kind of test okay okay very some words should describe some elements could be any set set and the end measure of characters like strength identification before I mean yes there's no logic in analogous notices such as but the ring is somehow comprehensive and it's typical information all strength is right and then this is the header and then there's description of how those information logic and then okay okay okay a melody in the sense that you have to okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay So here we have an event, the same as with the coup for you, as the inspections are very local. I just want to support what my team has said, because you cannot justify it this way. I think it's very normal, because basically the inspection will go national. You cannot say how you justify it. You're going global measures, you're going global measures. This is not there. So you have inspections, you have inspections with day-to-day measures. You can do visual inspection, you can do notice and dispatch the testing. Then, if you're not happy with this, you're going to do low-pest. You're going to apply votes, you're going to ask yourself, go for testing, you can do different low-pests. And then, based on that, you'll do detection of energy. So in the way you present it, it's more possible. I am very thankful to Pech. The difference between measurements and inspections is, for example, you can actually apply it. And when you apply it to global measures, and then our tests and then inspection, and then this is a policy inspection, we have a devaluation, we don't know how to do it. The first step is sort of like an inspection, we have a little bit more. For bridges, the first step is to do visual inspection. That's what I'm trying to do. Yeah. Yeah. There is some knowledge here that you think there's a problem. You think there's an underlying logic of connection between you. But it's not on this side. It's rather in the way of the information. So that we can work in connection with the structure. So this is all visible to you. Maybe this is the way why it is. I didn't decide that it's really hard to try to understand. I can send you for the next. Thank you. Cassifying things in a massive, real complex, which is of course difficult, and I have discovered that all of you should be there, of course. How much of this can we ever, nearly, define what the purpose of the structure is, because do we think that it's that connection, or is it why it has failed? The best thing to think about in the framework. In this graph, it's there, like proof of the connection. It's about performance measurement programs. I think of the big damage. I have been told in the structure of this, it's made in prison. Whereas here, in the context of, as a general reason, it's damage detection. Again, as a general reason, in my view, there's no other damage detection. It's about also measuring performance. Perhaps we can use it as well. It all starts with kind of a practical reason, right? What do we need to do besides understanding SHM? Because we have a lot of value of SHM, others can come to the future by inspection and so on, but we have to take it to the core. Thank you for the interesting points. If you want to make this comprehensive here, then it's about structure and have information. It's not about decision. It's not about inspection. Let's try to make a comprehensive. And we have the idea here is to, yeah, to summarize all such information. But of course, mostly the ones we can clearly model and we can clearly model. That's what we're overseeing here. But I have ascended the slides of self-explanation. The document should be. So, but, well, why do you... Why are we inside? Is there something which is not inside? In terms of comprehensive, addressing the structure of the information or any information in minority from the structure? So, this will be my question. Just a discussion of that. Okay, it is probably the right way to construct information rather than considering in the context of what you're trying to model. The other, that monitoring is just part of it. So, let's say monitoring. As he started monitoring, he sat here from the slide. Right? And this is David or? Or is it his accident? Because it is a constant. It is kind of kind of replaced by measure information. I don't have standard detection information out of the phone. The whole idea of some of this the same structure of monitoring and some of the historic algorithm, right? It is kind of still sometimes making kind of a wrong direction. Because it is not always held. But rather some kind of performance is such, right? It is held from the past. That is the vision of that history. So, this is the thing for a month. Yeah. We are really talking about the slides. We may think of measurement and monitoring information. In that sense, so, because of the thing between measurement and inspection is very temporal about it. So, measurement and monitoring information will make more clear that it is a continuous measurement we are taking that the inspections are temporal in the script. I think depending on how one sees this, I think this is a very nice classification of what we call this, okay? For example, if you separate measurement information with data detection information or you use a measurement to the data it has to be separated. Because in the measurement information you would like to know how to optimize whatever you are trying to measure. Okay? It doesn't matter. You don't just pay sensors. You might want to optimize where you pay sensors. What kind of... Even the good logic. What kind of logic? You are going to optimize your logic scenarios if you want. Just to comment. The maximum information that lately we do for data detection and so on. So, this is a nice example. I can separate the four things that you put down. I hope you understand how you do that and what are the details hidden because you don't have 30 seconds. But I can find out a lot of details you know. Okay? And comment? Thank you for this once. Yeah, very good. Other, thank you for pointing this data detection information. Of course, we rely on some more measurement and monitoring information. Where one of the pointers is that the measurement information can directly go into the structural model. Whereas the data detection or measurement information which are used for data detection cannot go directly into the structural model. They go ahead with the indication that the structure model... Adam had a... very good view. I think I understood the comment of my last colleague. The way he presented from my experience in Tennessee last night, you are an approach of this project in terms that you are... when you say measurement information can be auto-monitoring for years of time. That information might be able to be used somehow in the data detection. And those articles are something that is happening in your group. And then you do something more in the data detection organization. But, I think you want to have these approaches to optimize this kind of instruction. I think it makes sense for both of the top. The measurement information should be like a model could be something that is running at the square of time. And you have a program that has a system approach. When you are trying to invert your model that has been turned out in this direction, what you are thinking is a little bit crazy about some things. But, it's trying to raise the right space. Yes, this is a way to... I understand the way of thinking of that we can use measurement information to optimize the directions in the TNL with that model. I think the neurology is more great. I would put more information than special information than what the data detection information has to do with it. But, why what the way of thinking is special measurement information to the station. Because, yes, the national information information has to be open to the nation. So, it should be political information and special information. And then, information of all places. Because they have to contact... Can you go ahead and contact me? With, say, every month to make sure that I don't forget. One more? Yes, of course. Can you connect this to the further information? Thank you for this one. Let me... Let me finish This was the SFIS verification. Thank you for discussion and inputs. I always want to say that point needs to be better and better. So, it is also better because there is more information. There is more characteristics of the SFIS. This is linked to the answer to the qualification request. So, I have so far put the position into the SFIS measurement process. So, the measurement answer to her grant the SFIS system installation where exactly our development can be changed. You are asking the structure of the system and she does not. Exactly. Thank you very much. Okay. There is uncertainty about the system and the operation of the system and also the... And now 3-3 and 3-4 is how we are modeling these SFIS strategies. So, one way is to work with indication events and library functions. Then we can update of the solutions and we can use a pressure then we can find the event and create the quality of the event. So, this is one way and then we can perform these goals to the expectation of the characteristic of model assumptions. So, yes, the function performs with a model which has a little precision. But when we measure we may get to know subject to the SFIS uncertainty we may get to know the realization of model assumptions. So, this is part 4. There may be also the relation to work with quality information which is in-quality information which is normal to 3-3 and 3-4. And part 4. We see a sensitive way that we provide the solutions for the creation of SFI model. So, this is the first decision of model we identify the ultimate SFIS the ultimate actions and in connection with both the decision rules. So, we want outcome when I observe for certain outcome or specific outcome what will be the action so that the system can be run. This is the simple and then we can also talk about the significance of this of these decisions. So, this is the model that we talk about part 2, part 3, part 4 and not about part 5 but here we need to take up the example that is many lot of of the tree benchmark or maybe something out of our business we have to see all simply few examples to develop a lot from tree. Let's see what we can do. I will connect some of the conclusions of the business and sustainability and this is basically here can just wait for where is the sustainability and the business is somehow in the framework and the importance actually in the objectives here so it's the environment with a different system so there is a sustainable system so this is about sustainability and when we quantify sustainability we need to quantify the environmental impact so in this way this can be directly addressed as a part of the consequences of the environment and in this it's something that is a relative environment on how fast the system can recover its functionality and in this relation the information is rather a topic of research in return to this for example where you are saying maybe use the benchmark for the three and not one of the three times I mean for example that's not the right example but it is being done but it usually is being done for five yes yes but in principle it's something that can be done for five and somehow this way it's a little more easy to handle than in the case but we have the other for this thing of more evidence of evidence is there in the case that it's out this has been overtaken from the contents of my paper for instance if you do what you don't know if you want we are talking about principle example as the plain example principle example as example of fundamentals of principle example of principles not principles principles principles it's also the example of principles principles principles yes it's a good example which clarifies how the theory is used for many many aspects of it many we can think about okay let's say what to do for the