 like this. Who gonna bring it to the table? Boss talk. Who your girlfriend fave? Boss talk. We're gonna do it how you want. Check it. Check it. Check it. It's a unique house. It's your boy E-CEO and I'm here with the lovely official miss Jamaica. What's going on? None of my dad walk on. Hey man, it's beautiful day man. Another day. Yes, sir. Man. God's to be here. Man, God keep on blessing us man. Bless bless bless. Say man, we hear it man and guess what? We got that heat today man. Say man, we got the hey new new creative Austin Grand is in the building. What's going on man? What's good? What's good? How are y'all? Hey man, I say new and creative. So we're gonna get right into it. His videos are fly. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know the video. Before we go into the music and the video, let's go. Let's go back. Yeah, we're gonna do the backstory man. We gotta get the back. We gotta get the dirt. Let's get the dirt. He got dirt. You know what I'm saying? Say man. So Austin, who is Austin Grand? Are you from Dallas? Yeah. Man. Born and raised. Born and raised. Triple D. I am a new town boy. You don't even know the sign. Triple D. Of course. Yeah. No, I'm actually from like, Rowlett, but I grew up playing basketball and my dad started AAU basketball in Dallas. Wow. He started Team Texas. Really? Yeah, that's how I played for it and uh. Were you any good? I was number one player in Texas. If you google my uh baller's life has like 500,000 views but it's Austin Grand staff. It's my last name. Austin Grand staff. Yeah, cause a lot of time when I um on YouTube when I put in Austin Grand it it shows you race cars. Yeah. If you type in staff though, it's a whole different world. It's a whole different world. Okay. And uh I played at Ohio State. Um I played basketball since I was like five. No NBA drafts. Uh that's where I started making music uh my sophomore year of college. I went to Ohio State and then I transferred over to Oklahoma because I want to be closer to home and when I got there, somebody showed me recording and stuff and I just got became obsessed. Like I couldn't balance both and then it was like four more years of that trying to figure out. I went to DePaul University in Chicago, played there and it was still like my mind was I was a little lost like and I have a six year old son right now and he was back home and so that was also on my mind all the time. The only way I felt like I could get through all that stuff was through music. Can we cuss on here? I'm not going to trip you you know just I mean keep it taste. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I mean I mean don't cut up too bad. So how did your parents feel about you um leaving the basketball especially since your dad you know wasn't that feel to pursue music? It wasn't great at first and the music wasn't good either at first. Like I made a lot of bad music and I was in my dorm room but you couldn't tell me it was bad at first. Like at that time I thought it was fire. I tell everybody to come through here like dude nobody comes in here and say man I make my music is horrible. Everybody says my music is great. It don't matter what stage they're at or nothing. So I have to be a buffer. I have to pick what who I can bring in. Right. Yeah. I went through that like probably like the last year to the last year and a half I've felt confident like every time I make a song I think it every time I do anything musically it's going to be good. Wow. Back then I just then I was just watching YouTube videos how to how to mix this how to do that how to make beats and it it just became an obsession and it really was uh all through basketball like my work ethic came from basketball. So I just applied that to music and it took a while for people to accept it but thank god I have like good parents and good people so. Because sports do instill discipline in people because those early morning training I mean listening to someone taking orders and then not slacking because there's times when in sports especially in basketball you want to slap because you're just not feeling it today you don't feel like running you don't feel like doing this and the coach is on you and one thing I love about coaches is that even when you don't at an earlier stage when you don't see your talent sometimes they can see the talent in you and they try their best to pull it out but 100% they have to convince you. Yeah and me for it was just kind of like I was five years old my dad was coaching 17 year old AAU teams and we they would all come stay at our house so I was just constantly around like older kids and my dad didn't let me play basketball and rockwalk he took me to the uh more than YMCA and why I don't he he didn't want me playing not as good no they were I was the only white kid in the whole league when I went out there and when I was at home playing it was just he knew what basketball I'm not gonna be playing against these kids in the suburbs if I'm gonna be yeah so I get it but that really instilled like another like toughness and that's just kind of grown up in a different way than like my friends have that I go to school with like I just AAU basketball has helped me I don't know in so many ways do you ever look back on your life and be like well I should have pursued basketball more um you think he would have been in college yes I think that I was in high school I had my people around me who were making sure I wasn't slipping up and stuff and when you get off by yourself in college especially a school like Ohio State year it's party central college is always as party central and so I got lost in that and that was a lot more fun than having to wake up at five a.m. to go live weights and trying to balance those things just a different world and I didn't adjust well to that if I could go back yes I would have because in high school I I felt like I loved basketball like it was everything to me but when I got to college it felt like I had to do it all the time one thing I always say in life as I got older I realized I don't ever wish to go back I always say everything happens for a reason God has a bigger plan for us down the line that we might not know what it is but as long as we keep going with what is handed to us we will eventually find it out but with the regrets that you have or with the things that you're thinking or you just said use that to educate and help other kids my son right he's at a young age but I'm talking even teenagers people who are in college who is in what you were in right and you're able to say well I was there and this is how I feel now so I feel that you should you know XYZ yeah well really unless the only way I got through it was through making music and I don't think that like I think a lot of people in college sports like they have this they're going I thought I was going one year then I was going to go to the NBA I was a Jordan brand all-american like average 30 points in high school it was all easy every kid feel like because just like um football players they think that okay once I even high school they think I'm just gonna get drafted straight to well so people are telling you too everyone's telling you even the even the coaches that you're going to school that they're telling you they're gonna do that for you and then you get there and it's not all sunshine or rainbows like at all it's you have the older kids who don't want you to come in and just take their spot and it's a lot yeah and so I went from high school where I didn't really feel like I had to compete in practices and I could just coast and get by you go there people are trying to rip your head off every day it's what's the relationship you have with your dad because even then when I think about it and you're in college and you're going through this um because most people drift away because when you're on your own you don't hardly ever call your parents you don't hardly ever because you happy to be on your own no rules no this no that so but what I was thinking is like because he's been in that in that career so easily could pick up the phone and say hey this is what's going on you know help keep me on a straighter narrow I think that uh me and my dad's relationship it's had ups and downs especially through that college time right now I feel like we're closer than we ever have like he's really getting to know me okay and like not just he's not a coach he's my like best friend so like it's awesome something but we've had times like throughout college where he wouldn't really want to talk to me because I wasn't like my love and burning passion for basketball just wasn't there anymore and that's the only kid that he that's the kid he knew was the kid with the burning love for basketball so that's what he wanted for you too yeah and I uh I mean it's kind of hard like to accept that your son doesn't want to really play basketball he wants to make music it's like somebody told me like I'm the real-life Troy Bolton from high school musical like it's kind of funny but uh it's good now uh but back then I feel like I didn't want to call him and talk to him about it because I didn't want to let him down and I didn't want him to worry about me I understand totally well I understand as well and uh people sometimes they try to push their dreams on you about about parents they do that a lot so uh big ups to you for not letting that happen you know um a lot of times people try to live their dreams through their kids and I I mean I'm watching my kid play right now and I'm like I see how or why like it's it is it you feel like you're out there playing like it is crazy I would say that he I naturally didn't even have like any I didn't show any signs that I wasn't gonna be a basketball player until I got to college and that college time like I phew we've had so many times we've yelled at each other on the phone about it and now like he I heard him on the phone yesterday with somebody and they were like how's Austin's music going and he's like oh he's about to blow up and I'm like what the fuck that yeah man wow like you've came a long way that's dope but you know what I hate about stuff like that though and um I can be talking from experience as well is that and we as parents and your parent right now too is the fact that we will say all of these things to other people but not say it to our child so you had to overhear him saying something like that you know what I mean it's just more of like he's very I don't know why we don't why why parents don't do that like tell your son like your kid that you're proud of you actively yeah I think it's it's just that that father and son deal and mother and daughter deal and I think it not only happens it happens in all cultures but we need to break that but it's still something that happens I've seen it uh more so me and my father had those type of issues where we couldn't communicate because of usually it's fear taxes that was used early on or something like that for my case but another one could be you know the lack of communication between Austin Grand and his father because of the his father and his grandfather so it could be something like that there's always my dad came from his dad was a drug dealer and bad so that's gonna miss that's gonna but my dad like if you take from what my dad came from and what kind of dad he is I would say he's an overbearing parent I tell him that and that is a good I would take that over what his dad was exactly 10 times because he over compensated for what his dad and my mom's soft sweet I can go talk to her about anything so like really I'm blessed correct but I still say that even with that being said being that you just disclose that you got to think about what what he just said is that dad was a drug dealer so it's a lot of his grandfather correct a lot of things he wouldn't talk to his son about so that would cause communication dysfunctionalities and that's how you can end up with an Austin Grand not being able to talk with his father like normal normalcy I had to I went to a place where I couldn't even tell my dad I love him it wasn't something that we done because his dad never done it so at a time now I tell my sons hey I love you constantly because I know that I broke that cycle right and I feel good about it you know what I mean it feels good to be able to say I did something my granddad and my father couldn't couldn't accomplish and I love the fact you said that your dad is more like your best friend right now because your son being sakes and him seeing that relationship between you and your dad me and my son I'm like the like his life isn't all like family-oriented like I'm not married to his mom or anything like that so it's still together no there's still like things that are bad in his life but when I say like I let him do whatever he wants to do I like he wants to play fortnight we're playing fortnight anything he wants I want him to be able to find that and do what he wants and be a kid because I do see like usually a lot of these people who are in the NBA didn't start playing basketball till they're like 10 9 10 or 11 because they're that's like they don't get burnt out like that's a that's a hard sport to play for so long and it's more of like I want my son to be happy and he sees me like when they filled out something at school they're like what does your dad do he's like my dad's superpower powers he writes songs like my dad's a rock star and so like now all his pictures he does this I don't know it's just crazy so you I met machine gun Kelly you giving me that feel when I look at you I'm telling you I met him I met him at the palms hotel we was checking in together he's dope and we talked for a brief minute I don't remember what I said to him I remember what I said to Nipsey but I don't and we met I met Nipsey in the same place I met machine gun Kelly she's gonna tell us change his music a lot I do not know what the hell I said to him but we talked yeah but I don't know what it was couldn't have been that deep it might have been me complaining about the line I don't know but we was talking and and and I didn't even bring up music I don't think I don't even I just know it's a damn this machine gun yeah it's from Cleveland I think from Ohio yeah yeah but definitely met him and um he's dope so but are you an only child no I have a little brother and an older sister okay my older sister there that's my little brother's in England right now backpacking through England with his friend no he's for the summer he's like yeah how old is he he's 21 did he play basketball 21 yeah he was pretty good too he was uh who's better you or him I mean me I was the number like 40 coming out of high school is he tall as well yeah he's like six three okay he was a shooter though and he uh I felt bad for him when he was younger because he was chubby he was bigger and I was just this athlete and I was like gosh my brother's not going to reach like they're going to expect him to be this and that and he lost that weight and he got good and I was like yes thank god he's still he's still hiking so he's probably looking real good yeah that's does he love music as well uh not like me he uh he's all about his money like he insured he just did an insurance adjusting thing like where he worked for State Farm and he got paid a lot like a good neighbor yeah State Farm is a day to air that's what boss talk gonna be we like a good neighbor your boss talk is there so when did you actually write your first song because I know you said when you found your love for it but when did you write your first when I was probably eight or nine I had this song called uh sexy eyes that um do you still remember it it was like let me see those sexy eyes in the city of angels and then I can never like get a word to rhyme with angels and when I was little and so we were just sitting there and thank me and my friends and then now I'm like that's all I do is just sit there and think of hooks and verses and it's my mom's like I remember when you were little you used to do that all the time really he's what you remember yeah that's dope yeah it's crazy yeah yeah so you didn't see yourself being worried right now you didn't know you what you you think an MBA there for a minute yeah yeah a dumb jock that's where I come in hey check it man yeah but he's good right there I think he's good right yeah check it man so hey man so do you think that um if you uh so did you just because I missed a little bit of it but did you actually just leave basketball no injuries or anything or did you have a torn acao then then that's when you no I really just worked my way down like I didn't pay a dime for college and I have a degree I finished a you know in commerce okay that's where I transferred last because my son was here I'm 25 so you got a full right college you should have been rocking out with uh uh with uh he should have been rocking out with sergeant Jay but I didn't go to A&M I think he was at commerce I think they were because that girl apoca she was there too yeah she was there I remember so and also and uh I think sergeant was down there at commerce that's where I had my door music was you doing music down there I was I was but like nobody really knew like my roommate and my teammates knew and they I wasn't dropping though I was in my door I have like two albums that I've recorded in that dorm room and commerce that like that was honestly I wish I liked it there because I could lock in no one would bother me and my name was AG 303 I think well I'd say sergeant jay was uh down there I'm pretty sure and they did bus it that sounds really familiar yeah I'm telling you they came they was coming I don't know and y'all all about the same age they may be a little bit younger than you maybe but it's not it's crazy that that's a crazy talent who how old were you when you were there I was uh probably like 20 it was like 22 that's that era probably 23 years I was older yeah he was older but I was really in a rock wall majority of the time because I never really drive back and forth yeah because my son was here yeah and it was a 45 minute drive so I would always come back and hang out with my son and uh I didn't go to my first like real studio till after I graduated and it was audio heaven where I met pistol or Christopher Gibson shout out pistol Christopher Gibson man come holla at me and boss talk when you get a chance let go my big bro what was that what song did y'all do together me and pistol uh a lot we did this song called tightrope that uh is going to be on my album and it was really when I think I kind of stepped into a like I leveled up with that song I found my sound which is like this explosive sound like that's the sound that people were liking and pistol really believed in me and he had me engineering people up there and I was running sessions for him and recording for free like he was he was really looking out he believed in me that was the first person he introduced me to keys uh who's been like my right hand man now since I met him and we've kind of built this whole thing and we're just a lot of music and then just been working my way up so it's yeah you said tightrope what is tightrope about a psycho female I act like I don't like like but I do like it like I'm complaining all the time but it's like that's the shit I like though I like it's like I've been living life though walking on a tightrope in denial the shawty is a psycho but that's the shit I like though yeah man I like though yeah man that's what I'm talking about man that's dope it's like a reggae vibe beat too yeah don't say reggae you know you know she's Jamaican so she I don't know is that what did it seem like like that time you have to hear the song yeah oh I'm talking about the beat the beat yeah that's what I'm saying yeah but I'm listening to the way how you say it so I can imagine like a little beat to it man you guys are dope I've had some dope people come through this platform man you know I love it man it's it's crazy man so do you think that do you do you feel like like like you were you were you supposed to be right now at this moment yeah I do okay I feel like I uh I told who I told one of my friends the other day I was like I feel like I'm in this stage where I'm just waiting like for life to really change and because there's just too much stuff going on right now and I'm not planning on all these things working out but if one of them works like it's just I try not to be too high or too low I just try to be in the middle and prepare for the moment and I know that like this is what I'm made to do I can touch much more people with music than I ever could with basketball exactly that's what I love because we've been having so many musicians coming through here and I I have now realized the power of the mic the power of what you write and how many people not only kids but older people who listen to this jam it out in their cars and it can change their mood it can because people can resonate with whatever you just went through because most of the things you write is something that you experience yourself right yes and you don't only write about breakups or girls what are some of the other topics that you write about um strippers females in the general yeah big booty I like to talk to people all of them yeah when I make a song I either want them to dance or I want them to cry or I want them to change their mood like you said like you wanted to dance I like I got a lot of songs hip-hop songs uh I'm like talking about strippers and stuff that's dope and you have any feel good ones yeah that will make somebody like really feel like they could have a down day and they hear your song and she won't hear she won't hear something like that yeah I want to hear it cap alone not that one but yeah I don't know maybe I want to get to that point in my life I feel like he had a lot of money when he was making this I agree I want to put sit everybody don't make that song that song comes on you want to dance you feel happy is that all of a sudden yeah that's that's the song you make when you got that part of the 50 mil that's that part of the 50 mil so yeah you know definitely wearing some designer clothing when you yeah yeah he wasn't a nerd no more would you say that you have that would make someone um feel good I have uh and give me a little bit of it if you don't mind um a song called uh overdose it's it's okay it's overdosing on a female okay but it's like I overdosed so overdosed so overdosed song you're coming me up what the is up let me you rough tell the morning come your vibe is amazing yeah you got a vibe and I like it let's throw a party and keep this private nobody else is invited like it's a though real it goes like I like the fact that you can you can sing a little bit and then you rap a little bit with it I like that I can like uh like you said the power of the mic like you could do music is like there's no limit like I don't like I feel like how do you feel when you rap like you know some people feel like I just put on like a super cave cape and I'm just like you know I just touchable feel like I'm so that's what I'm supposed to be doing I don't know like rapping is different than me trying to sing I've I've gotten more confident in my low tone like my rapper voice recently because all my like people I've been working with they want me to just keep this raspy low tone they're like I fell in love with autotune when I first started singing and I'm just like now like I don't even use it anymore yeah you don't need it um that's where I feel like I'm more powerful when I rap so you like the rapping part more than you're singing yeah have you ever done um vocal coaching no but but Ricky's about to get me into some vocal coaching uh I'm open to it yeah we had a vocal coach came on here recently and she is so dope she has worked with so many yeah she has done I wonder if that's who you're gonna end up working with probably yeah but she is so dope I love her because she sings opera so she was in here singing that really really high pitch in a different language opera yeah and then when she sang like really smooth it like I think I'm wondering she's she I think she's the first female on here that when they when she sang for me I could feel it in my chest you ever hear somebody sing and you can feel it like in here I can sing she can sang sang no no girl a girl can sing you're it art did a good job I know but I didn't feel it I didn't feel it in here but with her yeah I felt something yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah power I mean it's definitely uh uh it you can tell that she's very experienced in what she did but you know um Austin what about that song toxic yeah that's a uh that's a hit that's all I asked like that is a hit because like here I'm spelling it out for you and then it's it's my it was my life for a very long time with somebody I really do care about but we were just so bad for each other yeah we were stuck like stuck in this cycle of like uh hurting each other and so it's kind of I don't know you're so bad for me but I can't let go like yeah it's nothing that song is so easy to remember like my son was walking around singing that the other day and I'm I just feel like that song has a lot of potential and uh who would like like that that how long how was the process of it how long did it take you to write it an hour an hour yeah I think I recorded that one that uh music access the place that I signed to uh it's the label and they uh their studio is like really nice like top of the line and so I uh just went in there one day and it was after I probably fought with this girl I was with and it just was like T-O-X-I-C baby and I just started playing with like the highlights in my voice and I was going higher and higher and higher and higher and I was like oh wow and then I think it was keys came in there and was like what wow and they were all just in there like whoa I guess uh the student stayed out a little bit he's been rapping in Dallas for a long time but he's got a real low voice and he's like you're gonna make it bro how does it feel when people tell you things like that like you're gonna make it and you know where all the work that you put in I try not to get jaded on it because now recently I feel like I've gotten to the point to where it's I have to keep certain people at a distance and I can't be as naive and optimistic that everybody has my best interest so I try not to like get too close but when people say that it feels good it's reaffirming but I you nothing good comes out of somebody telling you you're going to make it you either get complacent or you they're either like it's just I don't think that that's gonna be like you'll get stuck like that I don't know for a long time you should use your basketball lessons to teach you how to not get complacent with this because that's what you did with basketball yeah you did it so much and people I'm sure people are telling you oh my god you're so good you're gonna make it this is so it's the same thing I'm seeing I think it's different with this because I feel like I did this by myself and I feel like my soul is tied into this okay I could have a million dollars I would make music every day I could have zero dollars I'm gonna make music every day is my therapy you're doing I found it through depression like I was depressed I was gonna ask you about that because I know that a lot of times it's like music is something that pretty much helps you to thrive and go through situations it causes you to have certain mood swing moods it swings you into the right place or it could swing you into the wrong place and so that depression that you talk about let's talk about that a little bit like what was it because of what went on with you and with the baby with the mom the mom and the baby I felt like that's where it was coming from um it just and the parents because all this stuff is like a big world yeah man this is a lot you're this prodigy kid and you find out your senior year of high school that you're having a kid wow dope not dope at the time I'm telling you that is I I say like this now I'm gonna say this and I'm gonna get out of it because he passed away the other day um well about a few months ago my first cousin Kevin he used to come up here and he was 17 and he used to tell me this girl that he's coming up here seeing she won't have a baby he said she won't have a baby I'm like what I'm 17 and she wanted to have a baby and he's like and I'm gonna give it to her I'm like no man don't do it bro it's not worth it and he was happy about this and and I thought it was the most ridiculous thing in the world she had a scholarship to I don't remember what university it was so they had I mean they were gonna be soaring exactly and he was sorry to hear about that no no no I'm gonna I'm gonna finish the story up because it that was a whole deal of it I couldn't understand it but at the end God showed it to me because when he he was in a car wreck and it ripped his jaw halfway off and and he was asleep he was going to uh to work he worked in all field and uh he lived for about 10 10 years after that but he wasn't a nursing yeah he was brain dead vegetable so the thing the thing I say is at the time when he was saying this I couldn't understand why but after that happened I understood totally why because because now he has a son here yeah yeah his son is is here and and that's what life is about life is about leaving leaving something to the next generation when I pass on my son my son son and all that so I think I understood fully at that point but but at the time he told me this I thought he was I'm older than he creates a like I don't know like when I found out I was having my kid like it's the worst thing in the entire world and I'm like how do you I'm a kid like I was a kid like I was like and this is all happening I'm about to leave for college I to be at summer workouts two days after he was born so I'm like there when he was born yeah I was there I got to hold him so I got real attached to this baby and then how to get on a plane to go to Columbus say when you told them that you were having a baby for my dad was like she's lying she's not telling the truth at first and then I'm like dad yeah she's not lying like she's pregnant he was just kind of like in denial and then I don't know they were a lot better than I thought they would be about it and everything's turned out so perfect my son is like the coolest kid in the world and the nicest good-hearted kid and I'm like blessed because there's people who would do anything to have a kid and they can't yeah and that's what's crazy to me like one of my coaches in high school his daughter they were struggling to have a baby and I'm like the last thing I wanted was a baby and I have like a healthy kid I think God already has the plan written out and I think so many times we so caught up in our own thinking and our own way that we don't understand that's why that's why the Kevin's child I understood at the end that's why you got a dope son now because you don't know what God has for you you have to just walk in the midst of life until you get where God wants you to be it's already written man that is your why that child is your why in what you do now if he was not there you don't know if you would be doing what you're doing right now I wouldn't I would have probably I see a lot of kids that I play basketball with trying to make it in basketball and trying to do something in basketball and I'm like so thankful that I'm that I don't have to go through that anymore I guess and it like I watch I watch the basketball now like I watch the playoffs and stuff but I'm not into it as much at all because like time is really precious for me and like me and my son's time and I don't know it's just weird but so when I was away from him this is how I started like making music I just I went through depression because I was away from him in Chicago and I moved him and his mom to Chicago and we were both young she was 18 I think I was 19 and we had a like a high-rise apartment in the middle of Chicago that the school paid for because I was in scholarship everything was good it was like two and then like a month or two into it she was like it's too hard and she was she got upset she was going too high and she left took the baby and that's where they're all kind of kicked in and I stopped caring about basketball I stopped caring about school just didn't care like they got me like with a psychiatrist therapist did you start doing drugs or no uh yeah they had me on anti-depressants and which I don't consider drugs but like I've taken I've been on Adderall since I was younger just kind of very hyper and so but I started smoking weed which I still do but yeah when you start smoking weed a lot you don't really care no you don't you have it numbs everything exactly which at the time I felt like I needed was that and yeah yeah that's when I just kind of started living I think that's when it really switched in my head even though I wasn't that good at music I started living like a like a musician a rock star a rock star a rock star because people feel like to be a rapper or a musician that comes with a lifestyle smoking weed and doing this but who did we um talk to the other day that he said he doesn't even perform with you know do weed or anything like that before he performed he has to be clearheaded yeah yeah and he performs I get that though like I didn't I did a show the other day and I drank a little bit with my friends before and I like was on stage and I was like I wish I would wouldn't have drank like I wanted to be more locked in I like you're not up there to act like a ass like exactly I just think that there there's still a a lot to learn yeah a lot to learn because you're still young yeah so young well I mean the thing that comes to mind is that you have to just lock in with the team that you have and really go through the things that it takes to be a good a good a teammate just like in basketball but play your position playing your position in in the music the same way it's the same thing like you said earlier babe so you know and I've been trying to make it for so long while playing college basketball that I've tried to wear every hat yeah like I was around said I was ag 303 I have like two albums done by that name that I produced every beat for wow and I mixed myself and like some of those songs and they're really good but it's you can bring it out later on yeah later on and I'll be able to remix it like I have 3,000 to 4,000 songs in my phone right now because my first like month at audio heaven that dude named keys who's like I talk to every day now he's almost like it's like a father figure in music for me he uh heard tightrope and he's like that's really the only song you got though because like these other songs I didn't want to show him because I recorded them in my bedroom and I didn't I went confident in them so I made like 2,000 songs within probably like a year span like just every single day just nonstop nonstop and now he's like now we're trying to cut songs out like we don't know what songs to use and uh yeah so I just I think that Kobe mentality almost yeah I mean working hard like that's a lot of music but it's fun yeah you enjoy like you said earlier you do it for free yeah you do it for money you do for free you do it because it's life so how how much does your son impact on what kind of music you write and put out more now than I thought like now he really listens to my music because when you said earlier that he be singing your lyrics that's when I'm like I bet you you know be careful because you know but I also do is I do what I say not like like what is that saying do do as I say not what I do no do what you're told not what I say type thing like I'll be able to explain everything to him like I'm not gonna lie to my son that I've had problems and substance issues like I wouldn't lie to him about that man and not only that um it's a lesson it's something that you're creating right now that that like I've had to uh I've had to do uh the things that that really um my daughter I don't want to go too much in detail but my kids my son they've went through things like I went through um I told him you know I never married a mother this is before I met my wife but I would always express to him that I you know I didn't give you a good map to follow and that's what ends up happening like with you not being with the mother and you know all the stuff you go through you have to explain this to your children when they do get of age and can understand it that just because I've done that and I gave up on something you don't have to give up you know and this stuff is that these are conversations that you end up having to have I'm having them now uh more so because of what our family faced sometime but these are things that was always embedded because of me because I did the things that caused these dysfunctionalities now I gotta step up to the plate as a man and be realistic about what I done and fess up to it so we can do better not only for me but for my grandkids and my grandkids grandkids so it's it gets deep I know yeah no I agree though it's it's real like that's I don't know you couldn't have said any better she just keeps going because of what we're creating but at the end of the day we gotta be true to who we are so we can help our the people that we love it's all about communication though correct like my son being able to come to me and tell me anything in the world and that's how my wife say a lot like I want my daughter to be able to and I didn't get it at first as much as I get it now because she said she had communication issues with her mother and her parents but I understand more why she say that because you do want to be able to come to you and be approachable because you love your kids more than anybody else in this world and if your child don't feel comfortable in coming to you and telling you everything they're going to go to somebody else and you don't know how that person is advising them whether they're grown or not because sometimes they go to their friends for advice and their advice their kids their kids as well they don't know life is weird and life is right right and at the same time when you're when I'm advising my kids I always let them know I'm going to tell you this but I know it's your decision right anyway exactly so you have to make your own decision I can just tell you how I feel I'll open your eyes to look at not just one way but look at it multiple ways and then you still have to make a decision because at the end of the day when you leave this house I'm not here all the time God my God is going to take me one day and you have to because I've seen friends who shelter their kids so much their kids go buck wild in college they don't know how to handle anything they don't know how to handle situations hey what happened down there they go buck wild they don't know how to handle certain situations freedom and I talked to I talked to my my daughter's about everything you know what I mean uh street life meaning like you know when you go out don't take drinks from strangers because I know that even if you don't drink now when you get out there to college all sorts of stuff happen whatever and I know when everyone else is drinking and somebody might try to slip something and all of that stuff so you have to educate your kids on these things yep yeah let's get back to the music boy this thing here we straight about the kids let's talk about options three is that is that no no no it's options options because it's probably three on that because the music is sending to me it's probably the mix okay that song is fire okay that's all I can say is this fire I listen to it I like it it's well it's um like I just like the tone of that song it's kind of like who did you work with engineering uh producing that song keys made the beat on that song you were keys a lot that's my like yeah that's my guy uh he's on my phone every day trying to make we even if I today I don't feel like doing something he's gonna call me and be like this this this like he's just always plotting and thinking and trying to move forward and having somebody like that with you who's that's the same delusional confidence that I feel like I can when I'm with keys I feel like I can do anything like he's just he's that type of dude and he's been doing this a long time so I that's how that's how it's a mate right there yeah that's how it's a mate and he made my lap my first drop that half past three he made that beat yeah and then now I'm getting into like we're building a team yeah I was gonna ask you about that that's a good song too I like that one a lot it's uh those I'm trying to do these hip hop songs that was a collab wasn't it no no no that was uh I have some collabs on my uh page that okay the audio heaven okay yeah yeah I know that one that was a dance dance for me was a good black jose yeah but yeah that has uh uh three that's like the only thing that you really pushed out there right now yeah we have uh an album done bipolar geminize what it's called and it's a list it's like probably 12 to 15 songs but they're all different it's pop there's r&b there's straight rap hip hop it's a lot of stuff on there uh that we're putting together right now that should be out the next couple of months but okay my next drops are probably gonna be uh toxic um rock star by papa ace and options in that order oh no i don't have options first because we've been working on the video and when is that coming out that'll come out uh july sometime in july okay i think we'll get options and toxic dropped in july and then we're gonna do the video for uh rock star so that should be out by like august september because it's kind of a darker song anyways with the dj from dallas named papa ace papa ace yeah he's he's really good yeah yeah produces two and i think you mentioned you mentioned your old name that you used to go by why you switched the name and when did you switch your name to austin grand uh keys once again i like that he met me at uh audio heaven he's like what the it's ag 303 what is that where did you get that name from i don't know who gave it to myself here's a little bit ag what is it ag 303 in the building and then i looked it up on google and it means like uh clarity and i'm like okay so i use my music to find clarity yeah yeah it's just austin grandest it's just way it sounds so much like a star yeah it sounds so much and that is your that's my that's like my business artist name okay so where did he get that name from my last my name is austin grand staff let's take the staff off of it that's dope man that's dope man yeah we can't keep the staff in there it wouldn't sound it would be too long no austin grand is it that's the one is me i think i've just keys has helped me like develop develop me into this artist it's like having somebody else believing you on that level it can push you push you push you like it made me go so much harder and now rick is doing so much for me and beast it's just the team yeah working is always i've got a hell of a team i love it man i watch it everything is going on i can't wait to see the development and as you move forward and you meet more seasoned artists and stuff like that you definitely have to network with them get their information ask questions don't be scared to ask questions because some people when they meet certain people they're they're shy they don't want to say they want to look cool almost they want to look cool yeah so at the time because there's so many people because we also interview seasoned artists people who've been around for decades and one thing we always ask why you know do you mentor the younger ones that are coming up and a lot of them say they do so it's just that some people don't ask or if they did ask they don't take the advice that they're given and they go in the wrong way because you gotta realize a lot of these seasoned artists especially where paperwork and business and stuff is concerned they know a lot of it because they went the wrong way and they learned from it so they could save you a lot of time and effort by telling you okay don't sign here don't do this do that you can actually look at this so definitely you want to always ask anybody you come along with the music business is scary for sure so that's why i'm trying to keep this circle i have of people like tight like especially when it comes to me on paperwork and stuff because right now i'm with one label i have one manager that i'm signed to and i trust them like i i do i really like them and i think they're good people they've i worked like did songs at that studio before i even signed and like they gave me like a month to like decide if i even want to sign the contract they just gave me time what was the um what what's the name of the group music access music access the head of the anr for the urban department there i think dolphin uh charboy freddy did a song yeah uh that they pushed and said i like this song yeah it's called trap i think yeah that song was dope and so um i got to know them and stuff and the rick just seen me come a long way since i started there and he's heard a lot of music like i'll be in there making a song and they'll come in there it's just i don't know i have a way of putting a song together when i'm running my own session that i kind of developed when i was in college and i just kind of mastered it wow i noticed you say about all your songs every time whenever we um ask you about a song you said that it's fire it is like i don't miss anymore so if you had to name one song that you love the most out of all songs that you have uh this song called celebrate that i made like two days ago i had heard it i it ain't even out to you now i can't even get that one okay can you give us a sneak peek of it yeah here we're gonna sing a little bit yeah okay i can i you got a number i can text it to i can i can sing it is uh um my life is a party can we celebrate it's a celebration no what does it go i'm a tone setting i know i say i'm a tone setter hit his chick i'm a so new right yeah like two days ago and i can you email it to me yeah yeah i got all right all right and i'm gonna it's boss talk podcast one on one at gmail.com cool i got my boy on he has a little verse are we gonna play a little bit of cool have you done a song for him as yet for he's talking about his homeboy oh no not my son i know but have you done a song yeah yeah we're working on it yeah oh no no not really like talking about him in the past i did you did boss talk podcast 101 at gmail.com get at us you're talking about this is a feel great feel good song i'm about to put it on nobody we're gonna see you know you sound like you know what you're talking about but that we're gonna see let's celebrate with the eight okay celebrate with the eight ricky called me after i sent it to him and said that song is insane did he and that is your favorite song right now yeah this is newest every one of you right the newest one is always your favorite one no no no no there's certain songs like people will send me songs and i'm like you have to show me the song in person i don't even listen to my own music sometimes because i make it 101 101 at gmail boss talk podcast hey that's though boss talk who came up with a name that's me right there man you know right yeah and then my son put the 101 on it my oldest son because i was like man we can't just do boss talk we gotta have something to make us look different i wanted to hear the 101 part because i know that the radio station be 106 or 199 i'm like i'm gonna put 101 we didn't do 101.1 no i should have made it even more catchy they be like what radio station is that i should have did that but 101 is dope god knows what he's doing i guess i send it to the email okay let's go let's see what we have with it let's go yeah what but what did you when you first heard it you was like wow man where am i going what the hell am i going boss talk i'm a boss hey boss talk i know what i'm gonna say boss talk podcast boss talk 101 what a boss talk real ceo yeah man e ceo in the building i got your other stuff i got options i got rock star i got toxic you got you got a few songs it's a celebration fuck whoever hate and i'm on the road i'm destined for great it's gotta go get it gotta go chase it run up the digits watch where i take it step just just go ahead and uh unique hustle man that's unique hustle it's a unique hustle what did you think about my intro song man i liked it i liked that was that's it so man that's it so oh it is go hard man yeah i got another one to tell you what you think about it i have extra talk that's boss talk like that one too that's all right bro that's fire who's that that's my god pgf shout out at lemma out at teo that came in man he kind of like a movement when that boy showed up here last we keep out that song and everything shirts he came about five three camera guys yeah yeah that boy came deep man he came here blessed our game and you come back that's how you're gonna do it right yeah yeah i've been moving dolo because i'm kind of like yeah once you come once you come with it though it's gonna be a time you're like yeah i'm coming and we're gonna rock rock out the whole different vibe i did it man so you know uh yeah that that's that's my boss shout and they so yeah we're supposed to make a song you for real me and xo yeah oh she wants to get on this song called automatic that i have man she don't hear it around yeah she's cool too she's really talented real cool chill girl yeah she's cool man i'd love to see that come out man make that happen man make that happen all right let's oh austin i just it just can't do it right this is crazy you go ahead play it though yeah that's it like man you know what is what is what made what made you write that it was my birthday my birthday really was my birthday and the chick i was talking to like told went off on me on my birthday like was mean to me on my birthday and i'm like can i celebrate like please and did you actually have lean in your body yeah that's good that's good yeah i like that man yeah man don't hey man you hey hey once it hit it's gonna be crazy it's a life-changing thing you know um that definitely is a great song love it um so top three artists of all time that are any genre and any genre any genre top three artists of all time number one Elvis Presley that's our first Elvis Presley boom that's what i grew up listening to like my grandma's favorite artist really so i'd say i would go Elvis Presley number two oh man y'all are putting some pressure on me i got Lil Wayne Lil Wayne okay and then i'll say top three number three i'm missing some uh people i'm mad i'll probably say honestly honestly so i figured that was kind you can never say little way about the whole movement my honorable mentions like Slim Shady and like that yeah because you when you say those two you have to say Nicky as well Nicky went hard on the boys i ain't no lie she did she jumped in there and swung at them boys Nick man well she would if you put her on a song she's coming like it's over with 100 miles per hour she's amazing but i'm saying like they inspired me yeah those those three probably so the Elvis Swag was just immaculate little Wayne and Drake that's my boss and grand's top three yeah so um definitely um love you we love what you do thank y'all i appreciate it going down man and whenever you have something new you want to pop in hey hit me up man i'm gonna give you gonna follow me direct to that way we can we can link up whenever and um yeah man because i want to know like yeah real time you know what i mean like oh it's coming down like yeah yeah yeah yeah so thank you for coming on the show man say man this been another great segment of boss talk 101 yeah and we out man