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Yeah, I think I do and also I am recording if you want Yeah, I should find it though. Yeah, let me look hold on Should not go in the trap. Very funny record shouldn't be killing cords. Hey In there all week Be here all the week dip your waitresses and waiters, too. There's no reason to be sex. Don't tip them over It was not an application support application support. I'm there under chrome, right? No Google Yeah, I think that's it talk plug in It's got the right icon Well, I'm gonna be a date tonight in this in this chat room. I don't want to read that book you and non you revisited. What does that mean? It's holding up again my secret. Yes, Tom does not carry his own tripod Hello, no that didn't do it text at it. That's not what I that's not really not what I want This is a nightmare This is what your nightmares are about. Yes, you have like deaths happening and like the buildings exploding You're like, I can't find a plug in that's yeah, that's right That wasn't the one that I that I said Where'd you send it? No, I mean not sent but directed YouTube. Yeah, I can't find that one For some reason Let's see if this works. No, that doesn't work. It's lane apologizing that we're stuck in the same space. I Know what'll work sounds like the beginning of a musical to me I know what'll work. What'll work? What'll work? How's that that works yay ready All right, thanks ready, okay This was good TV. I'm glad you enjoyed it and now it's time for an actual podcast Okay, let's try that again Wasn't supposed to happen that way five It only takes a little to help a lot to show your support for daily tech news show go to patreon.com Slash ace detect and pledge just one dollar per month. That's patreon.com slash a c e d t e c t This is the Daily Tech News for Monday October 13th 2014 I'm Tom Merritt joining me today live in New York City. Mr I as act are Senior associate editor that's seen at that. That is me. That is my title bad business cards. That's what I would say So if I see you on the street, I don't say mr. I as act are I say senior associate editor You go senior senior missing it till the end. Oh, I'll fix that now Hey, man, it's good to see it's been too long since we had you on the show You've been crazy busy. Yeah, I kind of moved across the country and then I'm like, hey this email I should get back to it like a month later. It was in a box. Wasn't it? That was the thing it was it was moved from the inbox into the outbox Into the outbox. So I had to come all the way to New York City Just to like grab I as and make them join the show and do some headlines Hey, you know about the snappening, right? Yeah, I've heard of it Yeah, a snapped saved is a third-party service that apparently got attacked and some Snapchat images were stolen ours technical reports that a spokesperson for snap saved says the database storing user info about the images Was not breached so no identities can be attached to the images They say 500 megabytes of images were accessed a freelance security researcher contacted ours and offered to sell 12.9 gigabytes of images as well as 320 user names though the two aren't correlated They don't know what images go with what user names except in a few instances where the user ID is apparently in the image file name The user names have been posted on paste bin Recode reports that Apple will launch the iPhone 6 and the iPhone 6 plus and 36 more countries including China and India by the end of This month Apple's on track to have their latest smartphones available in 115 countries by the end of the year Which the company says is its fastest global rollout ever all eyes are on magical Amazing we think you're gonna love it all eyes on China with that and it looks like the pre-orders are rolling in pretty well there on Friday standard and pourers Downgraded Finland's sovereign debt from triple a to double a plus hang with me You'll understand why I'm telling you this in a second Most analysts say sanctions against Russia and aging population are one of the problems that Finland is having But there are also two others Decline in the paper industry and the cell phone industry The Verge reports Finland Prime Minister Alexander Stubb told CNBC on Monday One could say that the iPhone killed Nokia and the iPad killed the finished paper industry But we'll make a comeback here that Tim Cook. They're finished because no not finish well They are finished but never mind Quite the guilt trip there nine to five Mac passes along the Financial Times report that court findings show that bankrupted sapphire screen manufacturer GT advanced risk a 50 million dollar penalty if they leaked information about Apple product components GT advanced argues Apple supplier agreement was oppressive and burdensome and would like to publish more information to support their claim that Apple O's them compensation over the bankruptcy. You hear that Tim Cook. They're finished. No, they're in Arizona We mean just just never mind. Sorry. Yeah, no, it's it's it's hard alerting Tim Cook to these things the BBC reports Samsung claims it has found a way to make Wi-Fi data travel at 4.6 Gigabits per second and operates in the 60 gigahertz band Samsung researchers limited interference Improved the antenna and allowed signals to travel farther without getting lost Samsung said it plans to include the technology and TVs medical devices Phones and smart home appliances. I would like it in my laptop too, you know 4.6 gigabits to your washing machine. Oh According to ZD net French telco Iliad was not going to buy T-Mobile after all Deutsche telecom the German owner of the fourth largest US Cellular Network Rejected their offer according to a statement from Iliad Iliad was attempting to purchase 67% of the US mobile company from Deutsche telecom Which is still looking to sell off its US mobile presence Iliad said some T-Mobile US board members quote refused to comply With Iliad's latest offer you must comply. Of course like we weren't gonna buy that We would think just think about it tech crunch has an update on Facebook's internet org initiative Which is working to bring free mobile internet to 4.4 billion offline people One part of the plan involves working with mobile carriers to improve their networks in a recent trial in Indonesia the fourth Biggest country for Facebook usage internet.org says Facebook and Ericsson were able to help speed up Indonesian mobile network Excel Axiota by 70% Mark Zuckerberg was in Jakarta today meeting with president elect Joko Widodo Man that is amazing. Can you imagine if they just did that to every network like I know make it faster It's it's more important in a place like Indonesia or maybe in Zambia where they've been Facebook's been doing a lot of But just without upgrading the infrastructure all this talk about congeal We need to have usage-based billing because of congestion Facebook approve it wrong upgraded by 70% Time now for some news from you These are things we find on our subreddit daily tech news show reddit.com if you haven't jumped in there Please do that is a place where folks in the audience go in and submit links They vote them up they vote them down and they let us know what stuff they're interested in for instance Kipper is very active in there He would like you to know that Netflix is now charging a premium to access 4k streaming The platinum streaming plan requires 25 megabits per second download speed and cost $12 a month That's compared to the company's HD streaming plan Which is $9 a month that the premium plan also gives you the right to have four separate users stream video at once on One account that's compared to the two you get on the HD subscription current 4k streamers However, if you have ever streamed something in 4k on Netflix, you'll be grandfathered into whatever your current plan Fantastic only as a 4k TV a 4k streaming planet a good broadband connection. Thank you the bird No problem Mac bites pointed out the verge article that Google is testing out a new service that connects people searching for health condition information with doctors over video chat a Reddit user posted a screenshot of the service online and Google confirmed the test to engage it Google has a service called help-outs a marketplace where experts can charge to give lessons and advice over video chat The screenshot seemed to indicate charging could be a part of this new health service Yeah, so you go to the doctor online in a hangout you say look at this rash doctors like whoo. Yeah It'll be $20 for me to do the waiting for the waiting room We just have this little buffering and he's like that's nothing don't worry about it Put some salve on it Metal freak also very active in the subreddit pointed out the slash dot posting about devs for chrome os dropping support for ext2 3 at 4 file system on external drives and sd cards due to low usage Since this is the main file system for linux That community is not pleased to say the least kidding. Yeah, and that's my friends is a look at the headlines Hey, so we were talking about what to talk about today. It is a holiday for some Institutions here in the United States not all but the news is a little bit low on big stuff We've got some headlines there for sure and I said, why don't we talk about the story from chris plant over at the verge? He made an argument today That every living room should have a pc hooked up to the tv not a chromecast not a roku a pc He says with a wireless keyboard and mouse everybody knows how to use it You just sit down and you start streaming whatever here's some other advantages He's like well you could play video games with most of these you could record tv because there's a hard drive there So you just need an app unlimited apps Through the browser since almost every service like hulu netflix etc Has a browser presence and usually the browser is the first to get updated Downside of the console. Well typing is a pain if you've ever used a roku or an apple tv the typing sucks So if you had a keyboard that's going to be better Screen mirroring is laggy sometimes both on the chromecast and on apple tv It's occasionally unreliable to drop out. So if you have a computer cooked directly That's less. It's not going to have lag and it's not going to drop out and he pointed out voice control could Potentially eliminate some of these objections, but there isn't a reliable version of that. He says connect is a mess right now I obviously have played with a lot of these things through Doing research for cord killers. I as I know you're you've been playing with a lot of these things for many reasons just because Yeah, uh, what do you think of chris plant saying? You know what? Everybody should have a computer hooked up to their tv It's the best thing we got going. I've been hearing other people saying this for years I think it's way easier now because it used to be that you have to get some kind of vga to Well, if your tv had a vga adapter that would be nice or you'd have to have some kind of dvi to this But a lot of these video cards now have hdmi out So it's way easier than it's ever been and there's so many freaking front ends We're talking about plex or you're talking about media center you've talking about you could buy that But there's so many different xbmc. I think they renamed it. I forgot what they called it But there's all of these front ends that eliminate some of the problems We're talking about this 10 foot interface thing, but I think it's still a hardy kodi is the new xbmc I gotta remember i'll remember kathy lee and kodi because i'm old That's what i'll remember But the thing is I I have a pc hooked up to my tv and I most most times I end up using one of these set top boxes And I was just wondering about that today why after years of having a pc attached Why do I still stick to a set top box? It's because it's it's relatively more stable, you know like an apple tv sometimes seems to be more stable than a A flash plugin on my old pc that will get just it'll get destroyed It doesn't have enough ram for that that's just an older machine So in the long run I'll have a better machine, but it's it's it's could be time now But the cost I think is still too high Yeah, and the cost for one that had one thing chris plant says is you get computers with an hdmi output Okay, fine or an input right You basically want to connect the hdmi from the computer to the tv so that the signal goes from the computer to the tv So it'd be an output Not all computers that people have sitting around Are gonna have that right the older ones that they might have spared to put in the in the living room Aren't so they're gonna have to buy something and you're gonna have to spend a little money to get one with an hdmi cable That said I think one of my other objections was Uh, not an hdmi cable, but get one with an hdmi output One of the things that you pointed out because I was like with the interface too if i'm using windows or os 10 Uh, I I can get the media center interface Some people love it some people don't but plex is a very good example that kodi is very good example that so okay That starts to take care of that problem mouse and keyboard need a surface I use a logitech k400 with a laptop hooked up to my computer it works great, but I have to have it on the coffee table Like if I if I want to just lean back And flip around I can't do that right I love that you have as easy you have the same keyboard I do Yeah, which is really odd. It's actually a really good keyboard for this. It's got a trackpad on the right side So you can still mouse around with it It's the keyboard that logitech developed for the logitech review which ranked google tv and when the when that went Like sideways they're like that's not selling they broke out the keyboard and started selling it independent The workaround I had to do is get some cheap ir adapters like china vision something or other and the harmony can find it So I can use a regular remote with it Yeah, so it makes it feel much more and that's good with media center or plex or something like that Exactly and getting those hot buttons to actually open these applications like plex or like media center Because I think I had the green button and just like the old days But media center has failed for years when it comes to getting into the living room Remember the old gateway htpcs. They were like gigantic and they were built like components So they kind of sneaked their way into the living room, but they just didn't make it Sony had some really expensive ones like the hatbox one. Yeah. Yeah where they were they're meant to slide under the television Yeah, I think the thing about computers in general is if you get them in the living room You have to hide them like the ps3 was a and the xbox the original xbox was flat out a pc Right, we got the tivo which ran linux which everyone's like don't tell anybody's linux because it's still really stable Even though people don't use tivos anymore, but these kinds of things have to be hidden because otherwise you're like Why do I have a window here? I don't think the general public's ready for it I I think chris plant is on to something because it is easier now, especially because of htmi than it was before You know back in those days of the gateway home theater pc even that was just too complicated for most people, right? Like I had one of those I think it's still too much diy though saying like well, so you just need to download plex already You're gonna lose a bunch of people I'm not saying that that's right that they should like it's not really that hard But I know people I was just over at a friend's house and he was asking me He's like can I just hook a computer up to my tv and I was like well. Yeah, you can Here's what you need to do and he's like Mmm, that sounds complicated and like this is not a guy who wants to mess around with computers He just wants the easiest thing and I was like well They used to get a roku or an apple tv He's like yeah, but I don't want to have to use the remote to type in everything Well, could you imagine if you got a roku box and like the first thing you had to do was download the os Or the front end. I mean that happened with like what the we you have this giant firmware upgrade You don't that's the last thing you want to do So something like plex or even microsoft distancing themselves from media center by making it an optional thing of windows 8 That kind of I think apple killed front row like so this this idea of pc is going to televisions Obviously, I want to keep you in their own set top box is the xbox one or the apple tv or whatever it's going to be But I think now it could be easier if you're willing if you if you grew up with tv on your laptop And that's the way you're used to it just hooking it up. It's way easier now There's all these wireless adapters and yes chromecast is a little laggy, but it's pretty serviceable It's been getting better too with every firmware upgrade I I recommended the chromecast because I was like it's 35 bucks Then you can have your laptop over on the couch or you can use your phone Which whatever one you want and you just press the button. I was like, I think that's your best compromise device Well, there's a microsoft wireless display adapter is mirrorcast So you can actually send to your desktop right to your screen exactly makes a big difference And it's actually quite good from what I've seen about it So it I think there's there's going to be tv's without stuff built in and once People are used to the idea of just sending their computer over they might go Why don't I just put a computer there? Yeah, I I'm not I'm not arguing against chris plan I think he's right that that is the best thing going right now is a computer that you know And and even if you don't have plex or front row You can just make the fonts bigger and stuff and it's not too bad, but it's not The easy solution for people. It's not a turnkey. Yeah, but it's it's the best if you're into it though The idea of like is the app out yet? Do they have this? Do they support it? It's like you don't think about that. It's like if it doesn't support you just plug in the web It's like you'll find it. Where is it? It's in the downloads folder. Just go get it right there All right, quick look at the calendar today october 13th amazon is killing off its free p2p money transfer service web pay Yes, they had a money transfer service called web pay, but you found out too late because it's dead now Sony's playstation tv coming to the u.s. Tomorrow october 14th also known as the vita in a box And earnings reports for intel tomorrow october 14th Our pick of the day i'm going to use one today, but please send us your picks feedback at daily tech news show dot com My pick is based on several people asking a question after I took a picture of my setup here in the temporary location I have in new york they are a couple people like what's that sound board app on your ipad there? It's the sound board the ipad sound board from ambrosia software And it works really well. It allows me to add and remove mp3s Through itunes. That's the negative kind of a pain they have to use itunes playlists But you can do itunes wi-fi sync So it makes it a little better. I would rather it have like a dropbox interface But once you get the files on there, you can do all kinds of things like move them around make multiple sound boards Save them to the cloud you can actually buy their software for the laptop and then create sound boards and upload them That's another way to make it easier and even color code things. I make all of my Phone calls that I play on the show orange and then they're orange in my dock, etc They said olive I'm like you made an olive called for a reason. No, I make the uh, I make the frog pants things all olives Yeah, I can just do that. I can do that. You could stop. You could play you can adjust the volume So check it out ambrosia Com and send your picks to us like I said feedback at daily tech news show.com You can find my picks at daily tech news show.com slash picks Speaking of the sound board stewart called With some thoughts about why We might see an uptick In pc sales. You saw that report last week. Yes, I did surprisingly. So, uh, here's here's stewart's theory on that It's it's it's he's got a lot to say but he comes to an interesting point at the end Good morning, Tom. It's stewart in alberta canada. Well, that's alberta canada I have a theory as to do with uh, my pc sales are down. I mean, it's not even really a theory. It's anecdotal explanation My sisters I have four of them have been using D 600 companies were thrown away made their way to all personal desktop pc All right, we're gonna start stewart's call over again. Here we go Uh, because two of them have discovered minecraft and unfortunately those machines just do not run minecraft and even then All these lot of pumps that companies have thrown away have made their way home Because personal desktop pc. I can't remember the last time I upgraded it. It was probably four or five years ago All right, third time's a charm Good morning, Tom. It's stewart in alberta canada. Well, that's alberta canada Do with uh, why pc sales are down? I mean, it's not even really a theory. It's anecdotal explanation My sisters I have four of them um, and all of them have been using D 600 dell laptops since Oh at least five years and that was after they were He sickly reformatted when they were being thrown out by a company and set up for them Now they only recently have needed something better Uh, because two of them have discovered minecraft and unfortunately those machines just do not run minecraft and even then All these lot of pumps that companies were thrown away have made their way home Because you just need a certain amount of specs my personal desktop pc I can't remember the last time I upgraded it. It was probably four or five years ago It still hums along just fine aside from the occasional, you know hard drive replacement or increasing capacity With mass drives that decreases even more There really is no need to buy a new pc if you bought one in the past eight to ten years You just keep upgrading them and even then it's bits and pieces at a time And if you buy good enough to begin with you're usually good for a while Just might do sense. Thanks. All right, so uh, what do you think of that? I mean I I do think that most people have taken this into account that you're going to have people Waiting long times to upgrade. Uh, and that's going to balance itself out over time, but Maybe maybe this is the the time when you have a swelling Amount of them. Well, yeah, I mean, let's see. We've had major operating system upgrades So windows 8 came out 8.1 10 is supposed to be coming out soon. There might be more of an impetus to go Hey, look, I'm going to get a new pc now when you wait till windows 10 came out That's what you would think. Yeah, but like the idea I think when people just hear the news they're like, okay, this thing will probably Be the good one and it'll be all right 8.1 is such an odd ball kind of what would you call it compromise That it probably can pull people in because they're like, wait, that looks different I think that might be part of it just looks so different at this point Yeah, you might realize that wait, why does my computer look really old or why does it act really old because they're not used to that kind of Just huge shift because what 95 to xp It kind of looked the same and then we've gone to vista with a little glass and everything but it's very Visually similar it might be that and or the people just been waiting a long time I know i'm using my media center pc from like 2006 people of all my my argument is that people have always been waiting for a long time Right, so there were people waiting for a long time last year in the year before that Why would there be a dip of people waiting for a long time putting it off? I think what what stewart might be onto is that We have computers that can last longer now than we used to And so there was a dip because processor speeds stop mattering You're like well, even if I have a 2.7 gigahertz processor I don't need to get it You know get trashed that one and get a 3 point gigahertz processor because the machine still runs the latest operating systems in the latest software And maybe now there was a wave of like there was a drop in pc sales because people are like I don't need a new one this one runs with it just fine. That's where I think he's got an interesting point I wonder part of it's basically because there are so many more Geeks, I guess they're everyone's got phones, right? Everyone's got a lot of people have tablets and like I could do more if I had something else like Something if I could have like two apps at once and if I wanted to be able to do different things Like wait, it might actually influence more regular people who are used to just going with phones and like old PCs To go in a minute. I can get I can use this thing. I'm pointing on my laptop Yeah, I could get a desktop or something and do more And lauroman points out xp went out of support this year and that's what most we when we talked about this last week That's what this color is responding to we said. It's probably enterprise It's probably enterprise saying whoop xp went out of support We were putting this off for for a while, but we can't put it off any longer We've got to upgrade now because we won't get any support from microsoft The first thing I've been in office is where there's an unsupported really old software Yeah, I mean governments probably will move faster. Hopefully. Yeah, and some enterprises take it more seriously than others I would think hopefully we got an email from russell manthee on friday's show He says you were discussing the copying of apples design by chinese manufacturers in comparison to the influence of 1960s brawn design On the development of their products. We work in design and there is a definite distinction between influence and straight up copying of something It would seem that the chinese manufacturer is a phone manufacturer making a direct copy of the apple product to take advantage of our apples market position Most design has roots and inspiration and things that have come before brawn itself was bowhouse influenced and apple by brawn This is the normal evolution and design just my two cents Well, russell, that's a really good point and I think that's what I was trying to figure out is where is the line because the one thing johnny I've said Was i'm not talking about xiao mei in particular here So that I didn't know whether that meant i'm not talking about xiao mei They are merely influenced by by us in the way that brawn influenced me Or whether he's saying i'm not talking about them in particular because I don't want to get in trouble But I mean that because there are definitely phones out there that are Direct knockoffs like they are trying to look like the like it's an iphone to trick people to think that they're buying an iphone xiao mei isn't trying to do that Neither was android they're just taking similar design elements And putting them in their own way now apple has argued in court that it's too similar and that's what we were talking about the line Yeah, I mean When you talk about phone design at this point or tablet design It's it's a black slab or a The thing if you really want to stand out what throw some color in there I said this up like a million times on that old show used to do this the samsung tv thing They're like touch of color because if you have a black rectangle What are you going to do with it to make it different? They started curving it but they have like these types of this red hue in there Like you could do something I think sharp actually did a really cool design Where they had basically all of the guts like on the bottom kind of like an iMac like chin And they had like no bezel on the sides in the top to give this different unique style So there's still a way to have unique design if you want to but for the most part the phone there's a lot of utilitarian points right you have to have an earpiece and you have to have a spot for where You're going to talk and it's just makes sense to not have huge bezel on the side So are you going to square off the corners have one like the nook that used to have that little uh carabiner spot? Yeah, you can always have something that's different But I mean influence is going to I mean if you if you don't copy the leader sometimes you nobody's going to buy your stuff Yeah, well and and and apple can rightly say we did something different when we came out with the iphone But the trio was also different when it came out. Nobody had seen the trio before it was a handspring Product and they they disrupted palm with it and then palm ended up buying them because they were friends They were old palm employees that started handspring So, you know, I mean disruptions definitely happen, but that doesn't mean that every Product that comes out that doesn't disrupt is therefore a ripoff right a ripoff to me is like no They're actually making something that Could be confused for the other thing and I'm not sure that Xiaomi falls under that Apple does not own the rounded rectangle. Yeah, okay. I'm gonna say that I'm sure everyone who's an apple fan is like Yeah, they do it's like no, they don't sorry Rounded rectangles. I don't know the court may disagree with you too. I'm not sure I'm gonna check the actual angle of this and see the radius. Excuse me Uh, that is it for this episode of daily tech news show. Thank you all for uh for hanging out And uh, it was kind of it was fun to be in the same room. Yeah, it's weird in New York City It's crazy twitter.com slash is if you want to follow is it's i y a z And you're on the 404 now. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, if you guys are like, hey, I want to hear you talking more Well, you can do that. I'm on the 404 Uh, and I do with jeff baccalaureate and ariel nuñez. It's a great fun show. It's pretty light So we're really talking about dumb stuff and it's it's it's interesting to be the optimistic one of the people there I know that's weird to say, but i'm the optimistic one and jeff Is at cnet.com slash the 404. I think that works. 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Give us call leave us a voicemail 51259 daily That's 5125932459 and listen to the show live at mobile dot alpha geek radio dot com our website Is daily tech news show dot com we'll be back tomorrow with dan paterson tech journalist He's been on the show a bunch and gill duffy writer and software analyst at pc mag.com. They're both new yorkers TV z gone. I wasn't calling new york crazy. I was just saying it's crazy to be here That's all I get the strangest looks in that building right now by the way. There's people who remember me from pc mag. They're like I'm like, yes, you do they're like and they're also like where have you been for three years? It's like, oh, I was in california. I was busy. I moved and now I'm on the I'm on the 10th forms of the 11th So it's just I ran into a like dan costa and he was just like he just stopped Sorry about that. Uh, I don't know what happened with the uh with the cable It just I just needed to twiddle the cable for some reason. I had tested all that stuff out early and it worked fine so Just one of those things swivel the cables the title for the court killers episode coming up I saw andrew's arian in there offering his services. I do definitely appreciate that Um, I want to try to make this work though because if we can make this if I can make this work I can make anything If I can make this work on that frankest, then we would the the more we do this and make this work The more flexibility we'll have if we ever hit that level where we can take the show on the road This is going to help us prepare for that quite a bit You're gonna take the table No, this table is part of this uh This place here Hey, janny Hi I'm just being quiet because of the reverb Yes, this is my home office. It looks very different. You're right big jim Okay, um, is the is the does is do people not want to hear I'm sorry. I'm finding the edit points here, too. Um Jenny, I think you can talk now. Is the reverb horrible? No, no, now it's gone All right, it's so pleasant, too I know poor stewart Oh, I hate that guy Should not have him on the show. Well, I'm just gonna be editing. So you don't ask me anything Talk about your sales go for it That's me. Whatever Is jenny 23 in new york city? I don't know. Are you jenny? No, that's the only question you asked. Okay Yes, I do talk out loud. It happens favorite type of pie apple Thanks, Derek Is Derek lobbying questions into the chat room from behind us? He's literally three feet away Well more like six The delay sucks. Sorry big jim The delay I don't know Delay does suck. I hate being delayed Christmas on a question If you're going to showbot.replex.org you could read out the possible titles Do we have a title? We need a title showbot that here. I'll put in the chat Seb dons I use Defiant What's this mother of pearl Well, that's what I What I usually do when people can hear me but apparently they can't right now is I read them out and tell people to vote So if you want to read them out and tell people the votes So guys, we've got a lot of titles at showbot. I didn't know this thing was here The leading title right now is live from New York is DTNS Doctor by tyled whitehead. What the plex tag team reunion number one Eh too complicated is another one of third time's a charm that daily tech beard show That old show we used to do Snap saved oh snap that one was pretty clever two snaps hacked Snappening tested It's snappening again Keep your living room pc Apple killed the finish star Um interesting Let's see what else i'm not finished yet. Kind of like that one considering that was one of the most The oddest statements Google health outs. That's a cool name. I don't know if it's a good title But it's a really cool name for the product Google health outs Okay, so apparently I can be heard Okay, I'm confused I don't know what's going on. We can hear you. I don't know why they wouldn't be able to hear you I don't know I was told I could not be heard and that it was an autocomplete fail And I didn't understand that so I shut the what up Oh, maybe they were trying to say something else and autocomplete failed them and it made it Because yeah, I I'll keep talking I don't have a lot to say today peter if you count magazines 24 books Yeah, I think live from New York. It's dtns is pretty funny. Although I wouldn't cap the eye there Oh, elkly is elkly listening on alpha gig radio. Maybe i'm silent on that Oh, maybe that's probably what it is. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah 233t that would make sense actually this is the nt or the tn On the way I fixed that in the past was piping The second computer Yeah, that's a function. Uh, I have to think about that. Uh, right Your white your youtube stream just ported out. Sorry, so you probably can't hear me then so never mind So how's new york so far is It's great. It's fantastic here Yeah Living a nice place except it's a walk up. So that's the only thing I'll bitch about Um dogs are happy Yeah, you just get tired right at the fourth floor. You're right. That's the one you know, you're like, I'm really getting tired I really hope this is the floor Um, have you dogs are happy? Do they like central park? Yeah, they they get to go to central park every now and then but they've picked up a really bad Cigarette habit and I kid you not they the audrey tries to eat cigarettes Constantly and so now i'm carrying and liz is carrying treats to make sure that we can like get it out of her mouth We need to start carrying rubber like rubber gloves. That'd be a good idea because it's just disgusting to get that cigarette out of her mouth so And tory every now and then we'll have No, i'm just imagining like the dog like with the paw She just chomps. I can't stop. She just chomps down and it's just like, oh man. It's not good filthy habit. I know Yeah, it's like so otherwise. It's really good. Why is there a cigarette habit? No, it'll be fine They've been they've they're from they're from their lab outdoors. So they they love winter. They love snow. They're gonna be Yes, we're about to Liz is adjusting to new york. So it's it's going pretty well I think our apartment's finally put together I still don't have a podcasting space. I kind of just sit on the floor Yeah, but I can't move that damn thing I'm gonna have to take it apart. I just put all the tools in right Now's the time Yeah, um, yeah, so new york's going really well and what's going who's asking who's hiring big jim The dog is not smoking the cigarettes right king. He's she's eating the cigarettes And the worst thing is there's construction nearby. So there's all of this all these workers smoke out there So there's just a ton of cigarettes out there and outside of the school for some reason Constantly just tons of them. I think the solution is to hire somebody with a broom just in front of me just to push Yeah, I actually if I could do that, I'll I'll get a guy with a cow catcher for the airport just to move people out of my way Yeah, you know a lot of Roman the the cigarettes might be an improvement for one of the dog's breath actually Well, Tori, Tori smells terrible right now brush teeth have to brush your teeth. Yeah So what's your title Tom? What are you gonna pick? What's that? Uh What title are you gonna pick? I lost it. I haven't got there yet That old show used to do I like that one Uh, what do we got live from new york? It's dts Uh, what the plex Google doc tour is hilarious Do you have a preference jenny? um I kind of like google doc tour or What was the other one I liked and you were sewn on to seo with these No, I'm just kidding because I we're independent. We just don't care Um, unless it's a big news day that we care a little get my dogs with the vaping. I think I should you're right. What the plex Yeah, what the plex or um, what was the one that was about PCs the good pc one floating around in there somewhere It's all about cody Let me tell you a story about cody All right I'm doing what the plex then. Yep Keep your living room pc. Is that the one you're talking about? Oh, I just got that Although i'm not finished yet, it's pretty funny That's not that fun It's it I think it'll be funnier the more you see growing on you it really is It's got one vote and I like it Or apple finish has been lind poor apple Is it really finland really That's really no case. Well that they're finished It's like or is it steven elops fault No, he just kind of it's like blaming the guy's got to put down the cow. It's not really his fault I mean that thing was a mess before it So jenny Yo for alpha geek radio tomorrow. Do you think you could stream it? Did you ever get that? Sure? I could try that Yeah, because if you can stream the hangout over alpha geek radio Then that would be that would solve my problem where i'm capturing the usb audio But you're not on the usb audio, which is why alpha geek radio doesn't think you're here right now And I think i'm just talking to myself Um Yeah, I can certainly try to stream it. I think that should work. Okay I'll leave it go to Wired internet for that Okay, I don't know what I'll do thursday and friday, but Panic Probably probably panic. I think panic is a good good reaction No, i'm cody. This is not going to work. Is it out? So what's the food situation for tonight in new york? What what it's under consideration? Oh, I just went and bought a sandwich at duane reed. I don't know what I'll do after court killers though Where is a table for me to pound my head against the wall? You're in the west village, man Look, I went to quali meets yesterday and I went to momofuku The first night we were here so I You know, I can't say I haven't eaten much at duane reed. Have you not seen the corner? Like delis with all the good food. Yeah, I didn't have time though. I was sort of rush And and corner delis were all crowded For how reason Huh? Yeah. Well. Yeah, I know. I'm not here to make the most of lunch. I'm here to do the show Tom one should always make the most of lunch. I see Lunch is kind of unnecessary It was cheap. I'll give you that Oh, man. New york it was With only 45 dollars. Uh, what am I doing? What am I doing? You publishing you've distracted me Yelling at you about lunch There's a tuna salad sandwich. It was like three bucks. Oh So you go to kodi.tv and find anything for three bucks in new york, and it still says everywhere. That does not help me What are you trying to do I'm trying to just lock into my brain that kodi that kodi is the new name xbmc when you go to kodi.tv It's still branded xbmc every right now. So that does not mean I'll remember it Well, it's supposedly like the play rewind Symbols What do you mean? Oh, that's what you mean Because the k itself. Yeah What are the rest of them stop record? I don't know They had a really stylized logo for it at one time that you could really see like, oh, okay. That's the play. That's the stop That's the record, but then they They changed it No, kid's mortal combat. I don't think I've been to quality meets actually now what I'm thinking about it. That's a steakhouse That was really good xbmc with its awesome logo to this pile of crap Because you like it that must be the problem This one looks pretty good. I think this is the one you're talking about Uh, actually that one's sleeker than the one I was thinking of that one just looks like KOK though backwards Which probably is not a word you once said a lot For your media center pardon my french Not being red right That's not french And there's some dude named kody who looks for some stylized dude Nice hair. Hey, I'm kody Techno Was it a good show? Yeah You you benefit from people In your uh, that's up. Oh, sorry. You were asking someone else. No, I was asking you But then he types something in the chat room that made me do a double take I'll just hang out over here. So no no go ahead. No, I'm sorry You lost your compliment space forget it No, it was a good show. It was a good show. Uh, you benefit from having people in the room with you. I would say yeah Uh, it burns a lot. Well, it's always I think that's always true Frog for humans really It was a joke Oh man, it's so weird not being on my own Uh On my my regular setup. It's like some some tabs that I have saved and stuff aren't here. I gotta go find stuff Your nightmares are just it's just terrible. Your life is so hard efficiency has fallen I usually have this up by now. It's gonna take you like an extra 40 seconds exactly And they all pile up. Yes. See and that's why what the plex? You this is what you will regret on your death bed. It's like those 40 seconds that tab wasn't open So this is me nine years I'll be I'll be complaining about tabs Oh god, if I'm not already Oh my god, I am That's what you gotta bring Okay, everyone's saying it is not a good show. Okay, that's well, they're not They're not So good to see you I as says tails. Hi tails dude. It is so good to read your name. It's happening again Follow them around new york. You can Go ahead. I have two dogs usually with me and uh, they're not happy to see you and so You they want to find you? tails, I don't know Yeah, so we're like I was Wow, just getting all right moving here. I think I'm out of the post And into the groove see what I could do with that information Get into the groove Oh, oh bring it on bring it on the post would be a better thing. It's only gonna be stuck in a mailbox All right, I'm gonna find the stop broadcast button behind this pile of books that I have the camera on if you Bye