 A coalition of Northern groups speaks in the need for a referendum so we ask them what is the fate of groups seeking self-determination? Please manage us to raise up to anticipated internal security challenges. Customs seized containers laden with guns. Just how secure are Nigerians? And like always we will be reviewing the dailies with analysts. Welcome to the breakfast on Klaus TV Africa. I am Justin Akadone. And I am Messi Bokpo, just five days to Christmas. I think it's all right to say Merry Christmas. Welcome to the show. It's good to have you join us this beautiful Monday morning. Wow Christmas is here again. Well we're counting down and now we trust that all of us are going to have ourselves a wonderful youth time. Like always we indeed usually start with what's trending across various social media spaces and what I'm Nigerian and indeed the world is talking about. But today we start off with what happened over the weekend. Yes 18-year-old Hijabi Shatugarko becomes the first Muslim to you know we in that coveted kind of Miss Nigeria. Wow. Garko actually hails from Canada State University. I when I read this when I was researching about this I was really I was really you know amazed that it all with all the women are done with their long hairdos and everything. But she was really looking very you know intact as it were you know with her hijab and that she won amongst other contestants between other 17 finalists at an event on Friday. Well you know that for every contest I mean the usually criteria is a good thing that because I saw that there were different reactions now. Normally when you have a contest like that for you to become a winner it goes beyond just the outlook. I mean I've actually witnessed I've actually you know compared such events. So it just not it's not just about your outfit it's not about how beautiful you look. Most times one of the major issues is usually how you're able to answer some of the questions that are put out to you and to order in most cases you also have the fact that they also check out your creativity depending on what you know the contest is about at the end of the day. So usually they ask you questions you find out that some people have been asked about Nigeria the continent are just general questions. So it's not usually about you know who's well-dressed or who is not well-dressed. So the criteria is not just limited to dressing or limited to you know the fact that you have a beautiful face. So but yes I totally understand the fact that a lot of people are reacting and saying oh yes this sense here is actually one that's to some quarter that's to some group of persons who actually think that yes we found out that you know it's not just about putting out your body because usually the perception about contest and what we get to say is that people get to put out you know parts of their body out there very revealing so that particular notion and so the fact that she's wearing a hijab and the fact that she's covered and all of that is the reason why we're having all of that conversation but on the other hand I don't know if you actually you know saw all of the reactions and the comments some sects group section from you know the Muslim community they are reacting and saying she's totally on her own it doesn't really consent because really if she's really a Muslim she would not really go out for that particular contest it goes against their rules and traditions and what they believe in so yes it's just a mixed feeling but it's a good thing I mean you know because the Miss Nigeria contest is this contest has been going on for a very long time I mean you've had several persons that have won you know this beautiful contest so yes congratulations to her that's out of the reaction that we're getting well congratulations to Shatu Garako you know but the concern really for me is that this is actually a good step in the right direction because over time like you had said it always you know most people would always want to dwell on you know the physical looks watches wearing them the beginnings and of course the catwalks and all of it but I'm actually really really impressed that the organizers of this show would actually allow over time some pageants would not even allow you to you know respect some of your religious beliefs and everything like if you don't follow this stuff you'd or this particular guidance you'd not be allowed to contest but for the fact alone that they allowed the wearing of hijab for that particular contest to me it is for me no but this is not the first time it's happening I'm just seeing you know in the world right there was a time in 2013 where you had a Nigerian she was a Nigerian who contested in Indonesia I mean I think it was muslim this world something like that that particular pageant and she won but you know the reaction would always come for those who believe in you know those who are muslims I mean it generated a lot of reactions at that time and not quite different from what we're getting because some people say oh if she's truly a muslim she's not going to even go out to put out that contest and some people are saying what she's wearing is not so um yes it didn't happen in Nigeria but probably would have happened I really don't like to get myself involved in all of this sentiment so beautiful she's a beautiful lady and I think that a lot of persons who are I mean if you look at them it's not like they are indistantly dressed everybody is properly dressed they are modestly dressed that they're all looking very beautiful they're all beautiful women in their own in their own you know way well congratulations to Shantu Garco may you enjoy your reign and I trust this is just the beginning for all the beautiful things to come for you we will just follow your you know your development and of course we wish you all of them the best away from Shantu Garco another thing that trended over the weekend oh some Nigerians they suffered some annoying fate if you ask me some very sad fate over in Togo you know they were supposed to be coming to Lagos from a flight you know from I think it was from the UAE mercy and at the end of the day they were told that the flight their connecting flight to Lagos was filled up and they could not go so they tried protesting because they felt it was not really right you know for them to just be left like that and before you know it they were mistreated or treated I even heard they were even coughed they took on the intervention of the minister of foreign affairs I'm Jeffrey Onyama who put a call to the ambassador before the Nigerians were airlifted back to Nigeria on Saturday you can even just watch the video it was really really a sad one they are not criminals for you know for crying out loud you know when I saw that video and it suffice they broke my head because we still talk about police brutality I still just limited to Nigeria I mean let's not forget that where we're at today we're talking about the hashtag Nsas and the call for a reform of the entire police sector in Nigeria but if you look across the entire globe I mean you found that police brutality is you know it's a common thing and then you look at all of that manhandling I do not have a problem if you are a criminal or you're involved in any criminality or whatever it doesn't mean that the law should not you know take his place the law will catch up with you at every point in time but does the law stipulate how this person should be treated I mean because you just look at it you're already been treated like you know judgment has winged because it feels like judgment has already been passed I mean to the laws and I'm sure that this law is not just limited it should be universal that everyone is found you know guilty by court of competence jurisdiction so that would be a universal I'm not thinking that that's just limited to Nigeria it's a global law I mean across so I'm then it is just so sad and then some people would say that this is also happening in you know the continent I mean this is Africa just we did all the stuff you get so why are we having all of this what what could really necessitate I mean you could just see so much violence you could just see all of that does it really mean that when you just mentioned that you're Niger I must say Nigerians should be excluded from if you're found guilty my point is how do we go about discharging our duties as police officers across the entire world should we act like animals does the law not stipulate that we should do it you know in a respectful manner and you don't begin to treat people whatever whatever offence or offenses you think they've committed I'm sure that there's a way there are procedures on how they should be handled so it just it really breaks my head and I keep saying this that you know as as as a people you know we have lost humanity so what you find out the people no longer treat people because that's an inhuman treatment you just found out that people no longer treat people as human I mean that's like even dogs are treated properly these days than that kind of treatment that you would see so I'm not just speaking because it's the Nigerian it's wrong it could have happened I'm just saying that that's a human being that you are subjecting they have rights you know to all of that but it's a good thing that you also have the authorities in Nigeria intervening and that's what we keep saying that every life is very important it doesn't matter whoever is involved every life is important I'm glad I'm glad they actually intervened but they should just go beyond that some intervention I think the matters you know should be or that particular matter should be investigated and of course you know let's try and talk about our diplomacy you know if we have um echo us and we have like an original block that are cater to issues like this why should we be malhandled why should we be brutalized in an airport in the sub region there's not really make so you know I mean it just brings us even if you even if you want to talk about the bilateral I mean for the fact that we are all in the same you know continent and we're in the same region you would expect that we should get I'm not saying that like I mentioned earlier on I'm not saying that Nigerians should be excluded it's because oh the person is a Nigerian they should be excluded I'm saying that if a Nigerian or any other person from any other country as long as a human being they should be given some fit for the treatment and I know that the police or the laws you know I know that when different countries different zones and different areas but I'm also saying that these laws are not different from what it is it is universal in treating people yes even if someone has been found guilty of an offense I'm sure that there's a way to go you know to handle the situation mediation not that you know put a lot of laws into your and deal with them so the issue of you know police brutality as much as we speak about it in Niger as much as we say oh in the you know in the western world we're finding that yes you want to say there's a racist kind of issue you know they'll say okay it's racism and all of that you know the blacks against the white you know the color issue well you come back to you know the continent and then you see one and the same thing it's not different so I feel like you know there's a lot of training and retraining that needs to you know go on in the entire yes yes and I pray and I just hope we'll see the last of that because that should not just be swept under the carpet well moving on I'm sure you remember a particular video that went viral where a call member you know proposed to a female soldier and she accepted well from what we hear that particular female the particular soldier why are you laughing I don't know because she was all happy she was excited and I was happy I was like you know how you guys would go ah it was a happy moment I'm sorry I'm not trying to make a light of the whole matter but from what we understand that she was eventually detained and the army has come out to say that she broke some of the standing rules of the army that she okay amongst one of them you know mostly they talked about them the standing guidelines and directed for use of social media she was hugging the guy after the proposal and they said that she should not be indulging in romance with a while in uniform hand her conduct was prejudicial to good order and military discipline see we need to understand that laws would always be I mean we're still talking about laws here and obeying laws there are rules and regulations that guide or that guides every institution or organization I mean everywhere you have the constitution for us it's the book that guides the entire you know the affairs of the country she was overwhelmed by love no no you can't you can't you can't say you don't know what you're dealing with I mean before you get it for one minute well that's on that's on her and let's not forget that the military we constantly say that the military has lost her professionalism and this is some of the issues that you put out okay so the military is a very very sensitive you know I'm part of every country I'm not saying that every other part of the country or my other bodies and agencies are not I know that you're you're smiling because I really don't know why you're saying I mean before you engage I like the fact that you also saw that the military put out a statement to say yes we're saying this they have actually she's broken the rules and you know the regulation that it's almost the same thing that happened with Qtabiola now whether or not we're able to you know verify we're able to verify some of those things that have been stated that it is what it is but the point is the military is saying that yes the Nigerian army I beg to say that is saying that yes some guidelines and regulations have been broken and laws are laws we're saying that this laws need to be respected this is she wasn't even she aware that she wasn't due for marriage as she just accepted because the guy went on one knee or one knee rather the point you see it just brings us also back no it brings us back to the recent pattern that we have that's on I mean that's going on if you know now that you know proposal and marriage proposal has become you know a thing of public's very showy yeah so we have decided to make it like a public thing it has to be very public and so I'm just thinking that somebody's just copying a trend I'm just saying okay there are a lot of people that are very if I went on one I'm proposed to you like you wouldn't accept why would I accept because I'm not good enough because it's unprofessional I'm breaking the the laws right now I mean you also because the Monday morning when you need to understand the people involved I mean before you go ahead what is what you should know you should know you need to understand first of all you need to understand I'm thinking that the lady should know better and also the core member is a graduate he should also understand I'm sure that you you just find a way there's something that they said that when you go to the room you you find out the moment so you need to you need to understand you need to understand the laws that guide you know everything you can't just follow the the ban because you want to also trend you also want to train you're seeing people doing this thing and then you think that okay you're doing it so that you get you know the sensation and all of that well I hope you've not been going about posting all those things that you sometimes because most of you next thing you will like no no no I don't know how do people do that that's restricted that's restricted if you follow me on social media what I actually post on Twitter what I post on Twitter and what I post on Instagram and what I post on Facebook and what's up quite different now what's up is like a very private true it feels like I'm inviting you to my personal space so if you're there you're very lucky to be there oh I am not so what what I post on my instagram is quite different from what you have but the point is laws are laws and they should be respected they should be obeyed and the reason why you know we constantly say that Nigerian is a lawless country it's because we don't obey laws we know these rules you signed up to be in the military so seriously I have no bad blood I mean it's a good thing to be loved but darling you need to understand the laws that govern your organization and so it's just going to take a few bolala and well you know if it were to be a man they would have said that the man was actually using the female member no the army said that that that was actually a lady a female call member if it was a male a female sorry officer if it were a male it was it was it was be as though look at save you know he is forcing yes because yes you get so that's just I totally guess it but you know the case anyway so be careful you know how you go about um proposing on social media what you do on social media for the gram like people would always say but that's as much as we can take on top then we'll take a quick break and when we return uh open up our info you tell you I will be joining us on off the press in a moment still does