 Hello everyone and welcome to the stream today. We are talking about all the great new features that we've got in ecamm live version For the beta I should say that has come out this week In fact, there've been two beaters out this week So if you only got the first one the major update then you definitely want to go and check for that second one as well So I'll just mention a couple of the things that have been added into that a little bit later as well Just in case you did miss it I've left videos left left links rather to the two videos that are made about those two beaters in the description I'm not going to go through all of the features again here But just sort of talk about some of the some of the favorites some of the big talking points that have been this week And then also I was going to have a look through the some of the clips from the Q&A that Ken and Glenn did I think it was around two months ago something like that where they talked about the new features that were coming in 4.0 And then we can see which ones of those are currently missing from this beta to give an indication of what might come in future Beaters because just bear in mind that a beta release is just you know a single step towards a final version That's going to be you know released as a main release So when 4.0 does drop there'll be lots of new features some of the features from these beaters will make it in there There may be some that actually get removed It doesn't usually happen but sometimes a feature comes in and in fact That was the case with the feature that they added in the first feature at the beginning of the week Where any comments that were deleted by a moderator in the chat in YouTube? For example would be deleted from the chat window for the host Well, they actually sort of removed that feature in the second little beta that came out actually beta 4 that came out Just a couple of days later So this is the whole point of beaters is for testing these things out and for everyone who is Using them do make sure that if you come across any bugs or anything like that That's not not quite right or any feature requests that you've got then definitely go ahead and submit those to them You'll find that there is a help section in ecum. He says just looking at it in his window. There we go There is a support there that you can contact in the help menu But then also just go in the beta Facebook group and you can drop in any Comments feedback and requests and things like that in there also over in the ecum live discord server If you haven't joined that already definitely join that because there is a whole section for the beta program in there And then you can have a conversation and submit requests and things like that and as I say bug report So it definitely helps to be able to help them to get all of this feedback and You know what a massive development team there is behind ecum. It's literally Just Ken and Glenn so they are very you know very accessible in terms of you know submit your requests in the The Facebook group and you know, they often just respond personally to them But be sure that you know anything that you do submit as a feature request either in the Facebook group or in the beta group at some point In the yeah, sorry the discord group at some point will find its way back to them So yeah, definitely get those requests and and feedback in to all help make this a lot better so a couple of the features that Were mentioned in the release notes, but not really fully explained Certainly not by me at least in my my videos that I made the two videos that I made In fact, let me just come up and quickly say some hello's first how rude of me So we've obviously got to the oh, hello James. It's great to see you here It was great to chat with you yesterday So I was on James's show if you didn't check that check that out on James Hicks's YouTube channel Always a great conversation with James is a great interviewer and brings out the best in people Hello, Rabbi David. Great to see you here as well I've got something that you might be interested in a little bit later Because what I'm also going to do is go through as I say some of these things that were mentioned in the In the the Q&A that kenda did and there's one that's related to zoom that I'm quite excited to hear more about so I'm sure you will be as well so anyway, yeah, the couple of things that I mentioned in the Release notes that that I didn't really clarify was one that it said the bit rate has increased But it didn't actually specify and this is the recording bit rate By the way, it didn't actually specify what the recording bit rate was previously or what it had been Sort of increased too. Well, it turns out it was basically a three times increase So it went from five megabits per second to 15 megabits per second If that just means nothing to you in terms of you know, is that a good or a bad thing? All you need to know is that it's basically three times faster So that is going to improve the quality of your recordings there Hey, Glenda, just just popping in to say hello. Great to see you here Glenda The other thing was the the speed test So there is now this built-in speed test feature in the in the app So if I just come over to where is it this one in the preferences if I come over to stream We've now got this speed test built in down here You can't do it while you're actually recording but basically you can click test and it will tell you the speed that you've got and then you can change the Number of destinations you want to stream to here so you can see how many potential Destinations you could stream to and it looks like I could in theory be streaming to 10 I don't think I'll be doing that anytime soon But in any case it's good that they've got this speed test in there But this is actually a Monterey feature So you do need to make sure that you have got Monterey if you want to use that So if you haven't got that it will show up there But it's just you won't be able to actually click on the test or the test again button will be grayed out So if you're wondering why that is and notice that there were a couple of people asking that in the e-cam Community if you're wondering why that speed test thing doesn't work It will be because it is a Monterey only feature The other thing that I neglected to mention in my first video But I did actually cover it in the the second video about the the beaters. I'm talking about this week and was The the timestamp feature that we've now got in stream deck Which is in in e-cam to add those timestamps in and so it's going to save out a separate text file along with the Recording with you know timestamps wherever you've marked them and you can do this in e-cam by going into the recording menu and then you've got add marker as an option or clicking the pressing the M key and Shift M is for add marker with info So that's where it pops up a little thing on the screen and you can type a description of the you know The the timestamp that you want and then they'll add that into the Into the the the timestamp file that you've got the text file Well, what I neglected to mention was they have actually added that as a button on the stream deck I went back and corrected myself in the second video, but it is now a button on the stream deck So if I come into this view here, I just move around my stream deck button So just trying to figure out where it is and I've just basically added this as a single button So that I can just go and press it and it would just add in a blank marker But if I just come and get rid of this one for a second if I come down to Where is it down here add marker and what you can in theory do is because the add marker button And in fact, it doesn't seem to be doing now. Oh, there it is You can actually add the marker text So what you could do is if you are planning out your entire stream or your entire video And you knew that you were going to have you know six sections in it or something like that You could literally create a button for each section and then just go and add the marker text in here So section one section two section three or whatever, you know, you'd call them probably something a little bit more logical than that And then as you go through you'd just be pressing the buttons for those specific sections so Yeah, I mean if you've got scenes set up thinking about it just this idea has just come to me because you'll notice down here I've got a series of scenes which are actually all related to little video clips that I'm going to play a Little bit later if I've had some forethought the idea is literally just come to me I could have actually set these scene changes up as multi actions where it went to the scene and it also added in the Appropriate market now. I've missed a trick there haven't I could have literally just done that for this entire Stream but never mind So that would be another great way to use that so I'm feeling like I need another stream deck because I've got all my regular buttons But then I might have some stream specific or recording specific buttons for timestamps and things like that So I think the little tech devil that sits on my shoulder might be just justifying this to me But it's great that we've now got that built in I was using a previous plug-in before to do this Which did something similar, but to have it just built into ecum is it's pretty cool So that was something that as I say, I just didn't really mention that that particular plug-in in the very first video But it was there from that that first beta Another thing that was added that it was India Delgado notice this and it wasn't mentioned in any release notes is The the main window you can actually now resize it. So let me just come into Live demo mode a second so you can see my whole screen now Well previously the ecum window was just you could only go so big with it You could only go to you know It was really it used to take up a the maximum I could go was like kind of here or I'd make it smaller on the screen It would would go smaller But now you can basically just size the window to however big you want so this is a 43 inch 4k display So that's actually quite scary to see my head that big on the screen But it's just a nice little feature to be able to to resize the thing like that because what I found was when I was Like editing the not editing but creating the scenes I should say Sometimes when you want to see finer detail or position things. It's nice to have it larger on the screen Just to be able to see that so That's that's that's just a nice little nice little feature It was something that I'd asked for myself as well I know other people had as well But it's just so nice to see that you know there's people asking these for these things and then before you know it They just actually appear So hey Aubrey I've just noticed you popping in great to see you It's a good idea that isn't it Glenda I wish I had thought about it before before this stream adding the The multitask multi-action to add the stream markers at the same time as we switch scenes, but I'll do that next week Let me have a little look where else we're up to so the resizable main window. Yeah, but obviously the most the first The sort of main standout feature though has got to be multi-streaming. That's the one that everyone has been Talking about of you know in the week It's kind of like the flagship feature at the moment of the beta I say at the moment because there is another one that people might be interested in That was talked about in the Q&A so we'll get to that in a little while But yeah, it's it's a really nice feature the things to bear in mind with multi-streaming is That obviously as we just saw with the little speed test thing It is something that is based on your your bandwidth because whereas with something like Restream you are streaming to that service with a single stream out And then they are dealing with all of the the sort of load of streaming out to all of those different platforms With ecam what you're doing with multi-streaming is you're actually sending individual streams to each of those platforms So you do need to be aware of that and make sure you've got the bandwidth to cope with it But obviously that's why they added in the speed test just to sort of help you with that and make sure that you have got The bandwidth that you need So one thing I thought was well, there was a few people here that Or that I've seen in the chatter rather or in the ecam group that are talking about Restream and there's sort of mixed feelings about it a restream or any of these are the platforms as well I'll use that restream as a catchall for these other multi-streaming platforms So why is it that you might still want to use those because there are some use cases for that and You know a lot of people might have inadvertently or not inadvertently but gone straight ahead and cancelled restream In fact, it was James that James Hicks in the chat that was So made me think about this thing of where would we still want restream because he's got a use case for restream that I Haven't really even thought about so I thought I just run through some reasons why you might still want to use something like restream if you are Just about to cancel it So first of all the obvious one is the bandwidth issue Like I've said is you are streaming directly to restream with a single stream and then they are handling all of that other bandwidth So if you have your internet connection can't handle, you know Multiple streams, then that is the primary reason why you would still want to use restream but another issue with Not an issue, but one thing that may be an issue for you with ecam is Although you get all of the comments coming in from all these different platforms and you as the host can see them all in your chat window They're all there. You can bring up any comments on the screen One thing that restream does is if you are multi-streaming to let's say YouTube and Facebook What it will do is it will actually repost the comments from YouTube into the Facebook feed and vice versa So that the people from though on those different platforms can still actually see what the conversations are going on on those other platforms So it's trying to sort of address this issue of you know, if you are multi-streaming You are kind of splitting your audience across these platforms. And so you're creating These little isolated pockets as opposed to everyone being you know in a conversation in the chat really So that is one reason why you might want restream if you do want that Crossposting of comments. The other thing is LinkedIn comments are not currently coming into the to ecam over restream Well over any any stream actually so the link LinkedIn comments aren't coming in but they do come in through Through restream so you may want to use restream for that if you want the to obviously be getting the comments in from From LinkedIn you could obviously also be monitoring this sort of separately and have a way to bring them up on screen with a screen share Overlay or something like that to grab those in but that is just another reason It might even be that you want to do the multi-streaming yourself But then you're just going to actually have a separate feed from restream just to LinkedIn just for the purpose of bringing in those LinkedIn comments, but the one that James mentioned to me yesterday was about What he does is he records the the live stream on a sort of primary platform But then restream allows you to stream a recording out Live to that other platform a bit like you can do with YouTube premieres really But basically restream allows you to do something similar to that with with any of the platforms So in his case he was restreaming his Recording that was done on YouTube, but then the following day it actually gets streamed The recording is streamed live to LinkedIn as well. So that's something that you can't do with with ecam obviously although Technically you could technically you could schedule a stream and then just play a recorded video Which was the whole thing, but it's not really yet not really ideal days So then there's also the idea of Restream pairs as well So that is where if you want to if you're doing an interview show then often what people do is say Hey, do you want to also stream this on your own channel as well? You know for the interview guests and so they'll use this thing called restream pairs Which basically means that you stream to your restream account But then it can pair up with somebody else's account And you can also be streaming to not just all of the accounts that you've got in your own restream account But it can restream to it can stream to all of those other Users accounts as well. So that's often something you know, I've done that before and people have done that with me as well So that is another feature that you that you obviously can't do with with the account at the moment So the other thing about restream is that there are other platforms that are available on there as well as a sort of Sort of built-in They're not ones that I particularly use but if you go over to restream and you look at all of the different locations They've just got some that are already pre sort of set up So, you know aside from obviously the LinkedIn Facebook YouTube and things like that that we can do on on Ecam so that might be another reason why you might still want to use a restream if you are Streaming to some of those other platforms as well Obviously with most platforms, even if it's not actually in the list as such on Ecam You'll usually usually be able to grab the RTMP key and just sort of add it in manually So that may or may not be an issue there Hey, Chris. Nice to see you popping in as well Do you think Ecam will add restream pairs at some point or something equivalent? I'm not sure about that. It'd be good feature request though, wouldn't it? So definitely, yeah, yeah, let's drop that in the beta group or in the in the discord chat as well The Ecam discord as a feature request. I'm just wondering how they would how they would do that Whether it'd have to go through because the thing is it's with Ecam. They're all about sort of doing the thing from your own computer So that would have to be Yeah, it might be it might be a bit tricky I'm just thinking about the logistics of how they do that, but it's certainly a great idea for a feature request nevertheless So what I thought I'd do though is We'll go through and have a look at some little clips We're gonna have a little replay a bit of a geek out at what was mentioned in this Q&A that Ken and Glenn did because they did talk About what they were working on for 4.0 and so I thought it'd be interesting to just have a look at You know what they mentioned that still hasn't made it in yet because this is going to give you some indication as to What else they're working on like I said This is just the first beta or the first public beta that we've had this week the first two But there will still be more betas to go before the 4.0 Final version as it were gets gets dropped So there's bound to be other things that they're working on in the background that we're just going to be coming in Over the next few over the next few weeks months or however long it is before the actual main release of it So what I've done is I have prepared I should have linked these two time stamps But I have prepared by taking a few clips of these things now One of the main things that people have been waiting for aside from this multi-streaming is this idea of isolated video now We've already got Isolated audio in e-cam and just in case you weren't aware of that Then in the e-cam preferences if you come into audio down at the bottom Here you can record isolated audio tracks. It's grayed out at the moment just because I'm recording You can't toggle it on when you are recording But basically what that does is that saves a separate track a separate audio file for every track that you've got in E-cam and by track I mean your microphone would be saved as one if you were playing new movies Then you'd have one for your movie audio You'd have one for your sound effects if you'd got guests on then it would record a separate audio File for them as well So if you are recording a podcast for example, and it's a video podcast and you have a guest that's Joshua You have a guest that comes on Then what you would do is you would record isolated audio so that you've got your own audio on your side And then it would record a separate track for them as well But what you may want to do is get them to record their own audio on their own side Maybe on a road caster or wherever they they happen to be using and then you can marry them up afterwards The two audio files So that you've got the highest quality audio from your side and highest quality from their side as well So that's how you would record isolated audio So one thing that was mentioned though is this idea of isolated video so video ISO And what that is is the same kind of thing It's basically you're going to have a separate video track not just for your main e-cam feed or main e-cam recording or output But actually you would have an isolated video feed a video file rather My words mixed up here an isolated video file for each of the the video feeds And this is something that Ken and Glenn mentioned in the the this this Q&A But I thought it'd be interesting to just look at some of the thought processes They had behind this because there is actually a lot to consider with this in terms of what is it actually that you are Recording you know and so I thought we'd just go and have a little look at some of these things that they'd say And you can let me know what you think about these or if these things sound exciting to you So let's have a look at this first clip Joshua Kusamana wants to know about plans to make it possible to record two scenes at the same time That's what I was asking you about and you were like why would anyone want to do that? Explained so you know the new thing we're doing in 4.0 where you can have I So video recordings. Yeah, I'm aware of that So what if you could also sort of ISO? record a scene Instead of a camera So like some other scene could always be recording even though you can't it's not your main scene It's just recording and rendering and recording that scene Huh Right. I can't think of an exact reason for it. Yeah, so just to cut in on this I mean, this is when people think about isolated audio It's taking like the raw audio and when people think about isolated video often they are thinking about just well I've got my interview guests. That would be one video file. I've got my own video camera That would be another video file And if you're going to do a lot of heavy editing afterwards and you just want the raw files of these that you can combine together Then then that's great But what would it be like if you could actually Record separate scenes like this and you could set up multiple different scenes And then all you would be doing in your editor after the fact and would be just deciding on what to switch So I might want to have you know this scene of you know me or a screen sharing scene or something like that But do all of the actual design work in ecam But then just be able to do the edit afterwards There's a number of videos that I've done in the past where I've recorded the video and I've gone through it And then I realize you know part way through I'd forgotten to switch back to my main scene or I was still on my main scene And I'd meant to switch back to the screen share And so I've just been talking and people couldn't actually see what I was talking about So the idea of isolated scenes as well as cameras could be a cool option But let's keep on listening. Let me know what you think about that though Yeah, it's something that it seems like it should be possible on newer Macs at least If you think about the way app like ecam like works like this this space here We are rendering this This this scene right So we have to draw this but there if there's any text overlays any any any camera overlays anything this is kind of getting composited in real time and Sometimes we do render two scenes at the same time and That's when we're doing a fade Right because like if you fade between two scenes like That crossfade we are for a brief moment Rendering two scenes at the same time. Yeah, we have so it's possible It puts a lot it puts more strain on your computer when you're rendering two scenes But hypothetically we could say okay this scene over here like don't show it, but actually like Render it and encode it so it's not it's not impossible Yeah, yeah But but for performance reasons we only do that when we need to we don't we don't just do it all the time And these little thumb we have like binary atlases is pointing out like that other scene might be a screen share or something So you may want to be recording gameplay That's exactly mine in the ice cream chair Yeah, and that won't be available if we just let you record cameras because that screen share is not a camera Yeah, the pencil. I mean you could bring that in as a camera. It was another Like an NDI source like a game system coming in through an encoder or an NDI source But yeah, Ken Ken was just mentioning. I saw recording cameras Yeah, but it's been a scene that I don't know Think a little bit more about that. I don't think that'll be in there right away So there definitely you could see the cogs We're in there as they were thinking about this and how they would implement it But that I mean they mentioned it in there one of the main things about this is if you are Recording and rendering these these these video files on the fly then it's going to be a similar thing to this Bandwidth for multi streaming, you know multi recording You're then going to get in whereas the bandwidth for the multi streaming is a sort of internet connection upload download speed With this what you'll be getting into with ISO recording would be more of a sort of processor Speed basically, so you know whether your actual computer can handle it But the other thing to think about is if you are just recording the raw video Obviously, that was something that had come up with scenes that they were just starting to think about But when it comes to video the next question is what do you record in that? Do you record the the actual video itself or is it you know any you know after any effects have been added? So I think they mentioned Include Like green screen backgrounds, I don't know. I was just trying to figure that out this morning Maybe it could be your choice. Maybe there could be a setting for it Yeah, there's kind of like when you think about a camera Feed just in general like even like even like these um these thumbnails, which are you know in foro The switchers is greatly improved, but you start thinking about like for a camera feed There's like this the raw camera feed and then there's the sort of Effect applied Let's say you brought up your temperature You did a little digital zoom on it and you flipped it horizontally in the green screen back And then you put a green screen background is the ISO recording that or is it just the raw camera? So let us know in the comments what you think yeah I feel like I feel like it's gonna have to be something that's case-by-case like you can choose because yeah You may want the raw feed, but for green screen like Yeah, it could go both ways like your editor is either gonna want to do the keying or Or it's just gonna make if there's no key and you could just make it completely useless Because it's just green. It doesn't look like you were expecting. Yeah, so yeah, that's a great question We don't know So, you know, there's a lot to lot to figure out with this and they're obviously trying to figure out as well What is the the best way to do these sorts of things because one of the one of the beauties of ecam is that it is? It's so user-friendly. I mean personally. This is what my my view of it is they've managed to take something It's really quite an amazingly complex thing that's happening here and make it, you know as simple as possible So there's a balance between adding features and then also keeping that sort of simplicity to it So I don't know how many of you in the chat are interested in video iso specifically and how you would use it But then also, you know, which of those do you think you would prefer in terms of do you just want the raw feed of the cameras coming out? Or would it be, you know, you're gonna do some of the adjustments maybe adjusting the, you know, the Camera effects window we can adjust things like the color correction and stuff like that You can add lots and all sorts of things. So is that something that you would have as Part of the recording of the iso video or not. It's just an interesting thing personally. I think it's going to end up People are going to want different things and so having those options available to people is going to be it's going to be, you know, a pretty Pretty crucial, I think for people to be able to use it the way that they want to the way that they want to use It it's related to this isolated video though. One thing that has come up a lot is this idea of having a A sort of multi-view of all of the cameras, especially when you've got, you know, multiple cameras coming It might not be interviewee guests It could be interviewee guests, but it could be also just you've got multiple different cameras If you're just doing something like I'm doing here with basically just a couple of cameras and and that's it It's maybe not so necessary, but when you are doing things like a larger production There was somebody in fact just yesterday or the day before in the e-cam Facebook group was saying that they do a live Production for a church. They've got multiple different camera angles and they'd like to be able to see them all So this was covered in the Q&A as well Sammy superstars talking about would you be able to make an output screen of all your screens? Like if you were in TV production studio Yeah, this is in 4.0 already. So this will be in the next beta where you can each each each Make an output screen of all the screens. You mean all the cameras. Well, yeah Well, I know you will in 4.0. You'll be able to put like cameras on different displays But he wants kind of that so interesting that was something that he He said was in in the 4.0 beta. It's not actually in any of the releases at the moment So that's an indication of it's still something that's being tweaked and it hasn't made it into this one But they seem quite confident of putting it into the next version But we'll have to have to wait and see about that But that was to actually place individual video feeds on on screens I think so that you can you can actually monitor them even if they're not live sort of in the scene as it were I've got really much display of everything like you're in a TV studio A multi-view. One has to have like by law like just a test pattern on it. Yeah, and another one has like kind of like a A bunch of live feeds from like a real town. Well, like when I show a TV studio like in a movie There isn't like an amazing reason why we only let you choose one display We could we could we could let people choose multiple displays this idea of a multi-view It's something we've thought about but haven't really experimented with we're like One display could have like not just like a full screen of of your program view, but even like yeah The ATEM mini past this feature. Yeah, and the mini pro Not e-cam products, but but very cool the way that we will let you do like a four-upper of all of your inputs So that's that's a pretty cool idea I know people would like to get that kind of like the view that you get on the ATEM where you've got all of the different views of You know the the different camera feeds that you've got and then also have the you know What's going out? Maybe the next scene that you've got queued up things like that as well Quite right Aubrey Ideally get everything right in the in the camera to begin with the only time when that's When you might not be able to do that is if you've got an interviewee guest coming in so you might tweak the Maybe even the positioning as well So if you think about you've got a a interviewee guests coming in on interview mode Then sometimes what I do is I actually just crop in to you know Get there get the head positioning and the size the same type same size and then also do some color corrections there So but yeah, definitely if you've got the if you've got the camera yourself You should be doing all of the the actual adjustments in the in the camera So it's just interesting all these ideas of this multi view and multi You know recording of different ISO feeds and things like that It's it is obviously just a sort of process issue But also a UI issue because you can go really complicated and you take something that is a really simplistic piece of software in terms of UI They've simplified it in for the user so it's the case of you know Just trying to figure out how to do that I guess is the is the ongoing issue that they always have the balance between features and complexity So speaking of some other new features, this is one that was asked for a lot which is about More control over overlays that we've got so they mentioned that this as well Dean Deighton wants to know is there a way to have an alias for camera names in Ecam? It would help for those of us with multiple cameras. That was the wrong that was the wrong one There was one about rotating over late it was this one and Tommy wants to know any thoughts on freely rotating overlays I Like because experimenting with coding this up a couple weeks ago. I never thought I would use trigonometry So much Apparently you need like cosine and all those things you learned in like 11th grade math Figure this stuff out. Oh, okay. You just turn it. That's what you think about it Like say you have a rectangle like this like this text from Tommy and you start rotating it like The width the width of the box actually is gonna start getting narrower as you rotate it Hmm taller and narrower who cares well, you need to know that with Well, yeah, we'll talk about it later But no, it was so it's one of these things that I just included that because you can see that there Obviously thinking about how to do these things and sometimes people will say like can you add a feature to just you know Rotate an overlay. So that's what this was about if you've got an image overlay or something like that And you want to rotate it or reposition it surely. That's really simple, isn't it? Well, the fact is sometimes these things that sound really simple might actually be really complex Whereas, you know, there was there was one in the the first beta release where we got this new countdown for recording Where when you press the record button it then started to count down three to one and loads of people had asked for this feature But as soon as I tried it, I just thought like oh, this doesn't work for me at all because I have my e-cam Window over on the other side and whereas I was used to just pressing the stream deck button and it recording straight away Now I was having to sort of look off to the side waiting for the countdown to finish and then coming back So actually sort of ruin the the sort of flow in terms of my sort of press a button and go sort of thing So I just submitted that as a request and said like you know I'd like the option to toggle it on and off and sure enough in that next release a couple of days later It was just there because it turns out, you know, that was something really simple Whereas something like rotating You know an overlay might sound really simple But in actual fact there's some mathematics and trigonometry and stuff like that to work out around it So but I just included that because it was something that they're obviously still thinking about a lot of people ask for that You know more control over what we can do with overlays But sometimes there's a little bit more to them than meets the eye when you when you actually dig into how they have to have to do it Hey, Eileen great to see you here and Celebrating two months of membership to the youtube channel. I do always appreciate your support from Not just as a channel member, but since I started the channel to be honest, Eileen I've always appreciated your your input your guidance. I've taken on board lots of Little bits of advice that maybe you don't even realize you've given But I've just told you talking about things and thought oh, I need to do that I could improve what I'm doing So I do appreciate your support as always Eileen and speaking of memberships I suppose I should just mention That channel memberships are open. You can click the join button Where is it just down there beneath the the video and from with the channel memberships? There are three different levels and you can check out all the details about those By the way, one of those at the backstage pass level You can jump come and join the chat in the discord. Actually the discord is free You can join the chat there anytime But the the live stream backstage channel in the discord where we have a bit of a chat before the live stream starts And then after the live stream finishes we continue with the the mad after party Which is basically just more of the same talking about all of these different things So yeah, be sure to check out those channel memberships Hey, Dina, great to see you here as well. And yeah, we're all loving the new features, aren't we? So it's pretty amazing So I thought I'd just talk about this other one which I inadvertently played earlier Which is about play camera placeholders And I'll come on to why I think this is interesting Is there a way to have an alias for camera names in ecam? It would help for those of us with multiple cam links that currently show up as cam link cam link 2 cam link 3 This is something that we are looking at for for the next version This concept of a placeholder camera. It's it's it's really like kind of Already in most other apps like ecam this idea of like Uh, you know defining a camera kind of on your own terms and then linking it to a physical camera device There's an abstraction layer between The things you set up in your scene and your actual devices where you can um You can set up an input source To be whatever you want it to be. Yeah, so what what's for that? And that actually opens up a lot of other flexibility to not just the name but also like Um Say like your cam link cam link 2 and cam link 3 come up swapped around one day You don't have to go back through all your scenes and fix the the green screen backgrounds or fix the arrangement Or you can just you can just edit the placeholder cameras. Let's say at the last minute your cam link dies and you switch over to your your um Your your pingo encoder pingo If you could swap the swap it out in the in the placeholder You wouldn't have to go through all your scenes and switch the and switch the um the camera over it would just it would just happen automatically So yeah, we're looking and adding so that's uh, that's actually a big thing for people who use multiple cam links Um, I'm not actually using cam links. I'm just coming over usb with my camera but one issue that I know with where you've got Like say multiple different cameras coming in with uh, yeah cam links is There's something about apple not actually applying a unique identifier to each of those individual Cam links or maybe it's something to do with the cam link itself doesn't have, you know A sort of unique identifier associated with it and what that means is that um, it can happen sometimes if you've got Let's say you've got four different cam links coming in You've gone through ecam you've set up all of your scenes So you want this scene with your main cam then you've got another scene Maybe with a different camera angle like over here So this is this scene and you've got this scene set up Then what happens is if you've uh, you've maybe shut down your computer and restarted it or something like that Sometimes these cameras can all get sort of jumbled up in your scenes in terms of you know What was camera one now sort of appears in the camera two scene and so on so they can swap around and it's because of this issue it's not an ecam thing as such it is um a An apple thing or maybe also an apple and a cam link thing Where they don't have this sort of unique identifier, so it can't sort of figure out which one is which There is one work around to this which some people do which is Basically, they they plug all of the cam links in in order So like when they restart they unplug everything and go through the process of plugging in one then another then another then another Or they use a usb hub that's got the little switches on So a sort of powered hub, but with uh the little Buttons that you can actually turn on and off each usb That's one that has apparently worked So you just basically you know when you start up your computer You go through and switch on one then two then three then four Set up everything in ecam and then if you have you do have to restart and you get this issue It's just a case of going through and restarting them all in that same order again and that corrects it But what they're talking about here is um this idea of having a placeholder Now it's kind of already in this new beta that we've got because if you have a camera that is missing It does show you a little placeholder And then you just double click it to add the camera But what it's doing at the moment is it's not on a sort of global basis So if you have a camera that's missing and you double click to add that camera into the that particular slot It doesn't then go through and apply it to all of your other scenes just let just just yet But it sounds like from that little clip It sounds like it's something that they are perhaps thinking about whereby You are giving a sort of specific placeholder to cameras that you place in ecam And so it would be you know placeholder one and you could have it in ten scenes And then you could go through and actually just assign a camera to that That's what I was getting from that little clip there as to the way that they were thinking about this So that maybe that's the direction it was going in got no idea But that's just certainly what that sounded like to me But again thinking about that there would be a whole sort of ui aspect to sort of build for that So it's it I guess they're always as I say playing with this balance between functionality and usability as well Those two should be the same, but you know what you know what I mean Complexity in the ui is what I was getting at So the next one was related to zoom. So rubby david if you're still here This one might be for you We're planning on adding a new feature to make it easier to integrate with the zoom I can't give you a date or an exact description But um zoom integration is on the list and that would make it so that That you can bring a zoom gust in Without struggling with other tools. That would be cool. Yeah, get on that. I'm on it. I'm on it So um, you you can do this with zoom iso and david's got some great Video tutorials all about this and indeed when we did the the zoom workshop When was that beginning of beginning of july was it beginning of june? Um, hey david great to see you're still here. Um, yeah david's whole Whole video on that workshop was all about zoom iso and he's got other great videos about it as well But that was with um, he did that Stream with andy carluchio who was the developer behind zoom iso. It was originally a separate app by liminal His company, but then zoom bought liminal. So now it's part of zoom So with that that little clip from ken and glenn there I can only imagine that they're they're doing something like This and you know, I know that there's there's obviously communication going on between them and zoom So I don't know if it's something that it will just be built into ecamm where you know, it can just take out the iso feeds from From from from zoom or how this is going to work. It's really really interesting But in the meantime, there is zoom iso and as I say definitely check out david I'll go I'll go back in after the fact and drop a Link into the uh to the description all about this with with david's videos because Yeah, zoom iso is pretty pretty cool thing daniel chi as well Did a demo mode pros that was out just this week on the ecamm channel as well That was all about zoom iso as well. So but I personally as a you know I use zoom all the time to have that ability just sort of built into ecamm would be would be pretty pretty cool um So let's have a little look where we are here and then oh, hey calib just popping in great to see you here as always um Now there's one more that uh, that's popped up and I didn't really um, I didn't really Make the connection when I saw this new feature that came in in the recent Um, uh, the recent beta where they were talking about this remote control Um, so uh, oh just one second. I'll just grab this comment from david So cinemaker has zoom integration. I imagine ecamm will do something similar Uh, I'll have to check that out. I've not I've not actually looked at cinemaker Um, interesting Uh, you've you've opened up a little rabbit hole for me to go down a bit later david um, so, uh, where where was I? Oh, yes, so There is a new uh part of the system preferences Which is if I come over to here We've now got this remote control section And it is to allow The following apps to control ecamm live and we've got the stream deck and we've got the loop deck And then there are other Apps now there's one. I can't just remember what it's called now off the mother top of my head But basically it allows you to control ecamm using MIDI so Yeah, that is um, that is I forget the name of the app. I should know it. I have actually got it I just don't used it too much. Um, but in any case, so this is to allow access for those apps But this is now actually making a lot more sense if I when I went back to watch this, uh, this Stream because there is something that they're going to mention in here that is of of relevance Michael Forrest the creator of the shoot app Is that is saying I'd love to be able to develop plugins for ecamm live like a teleprompter feature Custom video transition or other overlay Video effects or control panels. Do you have plans to enable plugins like this? We're totally into that kind of thing. So like developers if you're watching right now, we do have um We do have like a not very super well documented SDK that allows for control of ecamm live and in foro We will be kind of like um Making that more of a public interface, but that's well documented Where basically the way you can think about it is you'll be able to do anything that the stream deck Can do right because it that's the stream deck plugin is using that api So it's pretty powerful So, um, that's that's pretty cool. It's funny because I'd actually um contacted ken and glenn About a month ago something like that asking for a copy of the the the SDK or the the api to to use to actually You know link other apps with um with ecamm because I've got um, I've got a little project That is on my on my list. I haven't really gone into it too far yet But it is going to be an app that is going to talk with ecamm So that's something that I'll be looking to um looking to develop So it's just interesting that they are actually making it, you know More of a thing to actually make it easy for apps to You know people to develop apps and plugins and things like that for for ecamm. So I'm really excited about that. It's going to be going to be quite interesting So, uh, let me just have a little check in with here. So chris never heard of zoom iso. Let me just um Sort this out because uh zoom iso is awesome. And what it is for is Basically being you can basically pull out the video feed of any of the members of the zoom The zoom call and then it just appears as an ndi feed So whereas in ecamm, you know, you can have up to four Interview e-guests Well, you could just have a zoom call running and then as many people as you've got in there You could pull out, you know individual people and you can just set up scenes in exactly the same way And zoom iso runs as a separate app that you then run the zoom call from within And a lot of people use this when they are maybe let's say you're doing a virtual conference or something like that And you could have a zoom call going in zoom iso with your all of your speakers And then you could have a second zoom call going Using the regular zoom app with your your attendees And then basically you can just be sort of pulling people out from your your speaker Zoom session in using zoom iso putting them all into your ecamm Scenes and then feeding that into the other ones. So, uh, yeah, it's definitely something worth Worth checking out. Let me just quickly see if I can grab the link for this Probably not. I probably can't think and talk at the same time But it is pretty cool. And yeah, david's got some Uh, some really cool videos all about it Um, let me have a look I don't think I've got, um I don't think I've got it enabled for People in the chat to drop in their links. Otherwise, I'll go back in and drop it in after in fact I'll also email you with it, uh, Chris, but yeah, it's great to it's great to uh, a great way of bringing in guests Caleb Caleb saying is the record only option easy to access with the stream deck in the beta Um, that layout seems annoying. Hopefully it's not a pain with restream. So the record only, um, if understanding you right There's just a little toggle now at the top of the screen. Um, so it just says, you know, whether you want to record toggle it on or off stream toggle it on or off and then also you can toggle it on and off the the video in there as well the the virtual camera and virtual monitor um The layout seeming annoying. I know some people have not been too keen on the layout of the the multi streaming. So, um I I quite like it because it's the same as the the sort of old scheduling But um, yeah, it's not as easy as the little drop down perhaps But I guess it's kind of this thing again of trying to balance, you know, they've got to add it in the feature So how do they do that within the existing interface and the little way that we had before of just the little text drop down It just didn't work for the Uh, the ability to you know, add in multiple streams and things like that. So that's why they yeah That's I guess why they had to change that thing a little bit Um, sorry chris, uh It's david paskin rubby david paskin who's in the the chat who has done all uh a lot of videos about it And he as I say it was one of the uh the zoom workshop sessions with ecum. Uh, he had a whole session with Andy Carluchio the uh the creator of zoom iso doing a demo of it and everything like that, but I shall I shall I'll get it to you though Oh, look at that This this always happens. This is the thing about a live stream chat. There's me answering chris And the very next comment is from eileen also Answering the question before me. So, uh, thanks eileen So, uh, I can tell you what it is actually eileen. So my secret project Basically what it is is I want to be able to control all of the volume all of the audio levels in ecum with the rocaster sliders and with the rocaster you can Create midi channels for each of the different sliders And you can obviously use midi on the all of the sound pads and things like that So, uh, if somebody is doing interviews and things like that on ecum and they want to control the the levels with Of their interviewee guests on the sliders are the fed sorry the faders Get my terminology, right? I'm a professional, you know On the faders of the rocaster Well, imagine if you could just actually assign, you know interview interview guests one two and three Whatever two individual faders on the rocaster and you can do it with midi and ecum has You know this ability to control these faders because it's on the loop deck So we've got the little dials on the loop deck So it's not really that much of a programming stretch to just actually do this over midi And in fact the other app that was talking about which The name escapes me completely um There is a mobile app, so I should be able to find it on there But it is an app that allows you to um control ecum basically with midi Um, no, I'm not finding it here. I might have taken it off my phone I just don't like the the ui of that particular app. I find it looks a little bit clunky It's not it's not as user-friendly either. So, uh, what I wanted to make is something that's very much a You know in keeping with the ecum styling and usability But just yeah to link with rocaster and also other devices as well So I've got some other ideas from it, but that was where the idea came from. So, um, yeah It's not it's not secret anymore And if somebody wants to go ahead and do it before me, uh, great I'll just go and buy there up and save save myself for trouble My let me see so, um You've got volunteers using Using restream with ecum. Yeah, I mentioned earlier may have done if you caught the beginning But um, yeah, there are still reasons why you might want to use restream as opposed to the build You know the multi streaming ecum. There's quite a few reasons for that indeed. So Um Hey, uh, hey luka. Thanks. Thanks very much and uh other right so the road beta. Yeah, I'm very pleased about that so the beta program for the rocaster pro 2 since we're talking about the rcp and this is what luka's talking about They're in their beta program. They're encouraging people obviously to submit bug reports feedback Feature requests and things like that and I've been submitting quite a few You know whenever I've found something I'll always go and just submit the you know the report about the the bug or whatever it is Or if there's a feature request a lot of people when they get something If they've got something to that they don't like they'll just complain about it But they'll complain about it to people who have no power whatsoever to make any change about it. So just you know just venting basically to someone else whereas it's much better if you actually Complain politely to the the company because they might actually then change it and make make the thing better So that's basically what I've been doing with the rcp2 is just submitting bug reports feature requests and things like that And so they run a thing as part of their beta program because they want to encourage people to do that Where every month they pick somebody randomly out of all of the Requests or things like that that they've had the submissions that they've had as a prize winner And so this month I was really pleased because I won it this month So there is definitely some incentive for For submitting your request So if you are an rcp user rocaster pro 2 user and you're not on their beta program Then definitely join up with that. It means that you get access to the features early as well But it also gives you an easy way to then actually just have that direct line to them to Give you your give them your requests and things that you want to see happen. So So I won it this month and it was a pair of the what's the name for them nth 100 is the the road headphone. So They were already actually in my amazon wish list. I just hadn't actually bought them but So it may it totally made my day that did and oh paul's. Thank you very much paul You dropped the the link in for that that stream with david. Yeah, it was great. That was and Yeah, it's it's really good so Yeah, that is about all I was going to cover off from the the sort of stuff that was covered in the the The q&a with ken and glenn. I'm not sure when the next q&a with ken and glenn is going to be But obviously there'll be no doubt talking about the the beta and also Sure, it will still be in development for that time I don't think it's going to be released any time as a major release, you know in the next Certainly not in the next couple of weeks or so. So we should be due for another q&a with ken and glenn So definitely be sure to check out those as well and get on them because that's the time when you can ask these questions and you could literally see in these In the those clips that I showed They were taking questions live from people in the q&a and you could see their mind just sort of were in a way thinking about How could we do that and that's a good idea? And so it's a really, you know They couldn't be more accessible really and I think to be a part of a software company like ecan where they are so accessible And there's like I say, it's just the two of them and yet they're they're listening and creating all of these new features It's pretty pretty awesome and be sure also to check out the beta facebook group and also the the discord Where you can obviously have a much more of a conversation in the ecan discord than in the the facebook group But I'd love to know what your thoughts are if you've found any Any thoughts on these new features that we've got or or anything like that? I'm just also noticing the one of the new features that came in this version Was these little badges that we've got so let me just show this This was something that came in the the second second beta So oh, hey, duck great. See you and he's just confirmed the date you need to get in your diary The next monthly q&a is going to be on wednesday august the 17th 3 p.m. Eastern time get that in your diary and you don't want to miss that because I'm sure there's going to be lots of questions. There's going to be lots of Talk about the beta as well. So Yeah, definitely definitely get your questions queued up and get them submitted for there So let me just show you this thing in the in the chat though actually just quickly at chris. Yeah, those Those where's it gone? Chat's moving too quickly. There you go I wouldn't use them instead of these on the stream itself But actually after the fact for listening to stuff and as I'm starting my My podcast soon in fact now's perhaps a good time to mention that I will be using them for you know when I'm listening to that and just Upping the quality a little bit, but I do prefer the the more subtle in ear monitors as opposed to Being on screen with a big pair of big pair of cans on Let me just I'm getting sidetracked with a couple of things So the first thing that I want to mention is and I'm just in the process of putting this all together but the Whoopsie daisy, that's a bit big live streamer backstage podcast. So this is something that I'm starting. I've got It's pretty much ready to actually Start sending out to guests to get people queued up to come on and have a chat with me But it's basically all about live streaming as you can imagine and the backstage element is it's just basically about you know How people are using live streaming as a tool for their business. It's got a bit more of a business focus So it will be obviously people who are live streaming to youtube and youtube is their business But then also people who are using live streaming as a tool in their regular business as well because A lot of people are using it as a tool to access more of their Their customer base their client base and things like that. So It will cover that as well But the backstage element as well is because we'll be taking a look at the gear that people are using as well So I love looking at other people's setups how they are doing what they're doing You know the little tricks and tools and things like that that they're using and so we'll be covering all of that as well It's going to be recorded live on linkedin But then also on amazon live as well linkedin for the business side of things But amazon live because we will be talking about gear So any products and things like that that people are using We'll feature in the the carousel that you get at the bottom of the amazon live as well But I will then just bringing this background to chris's question I will actually be doing some editing on this because there'll be some things that are Suitable for audio But then if we're just looking and pointing at various different things on on screen and people are talking about stuff That might not always translate over onto the audio So there'll be some editing that goes on in that and obviously I want the audio to be As high-quality as possible. So yeah, those those headphones will certainly come in handy for for doing that And I just derailed myself because I was going to talk about something else Oh, I know it was it was just this other new feature in ecam if I just share my screen I'll just pop an overlay on here Which is these little badges that you've now got on the on in the in the chat So what I need to do is add a screen share and then I'll change this one to ecam chat Where's it gone? Comments from reactions. That's the one so This is the time when the the spam got Spam bots are going to come in and Just post something that I shouldn't have up on my screen There we go. So, um, yeah one of the other features though that was added in this version was these little icons So where somebody is a channel member, uh, then they have this little rosette this little star next to their name And then when they are a moderator, they have a little little wrenched next to their name as well So it just means that as you're going through the chat, um, you can actually just you know, the members Pop out and the moderators pop out as well. One thing that I've submitted as a feature request is Whilst at the top we've got comments and we've got all comments Or you can obviously star comments like this and then you can just filter for just the favorites like that Then I've put in a feature request for it. It'd be great to just be able to filter for members as well It's not an issue that I have because obviously my chat is not one of these ones that's just Flying up the screen so quickly because of the the number of viewers that there are but um when you are Doing something where you've got a lot more viewers It might be nice to just be able to have a little button here to filter out just to see only the members Chat if you want to make sure that you do cover off all of those And this is a classic classic Talk comment. Thank you very much doc and I love you too I certainly have got a face for audio um So yeah, there's lots lots in um lots in the the new beta lots of new features and it's still just to just to come Docs doc doc's now spamming himself That's great. I might uh Just get a little shot of that one Now we know who these uh spam bots are that look strangely familiar doc So um, so yeah, that is that is about it for the um, you know What I wanted to cover in terms of what what seems to be missing from this this beta That's what I was looking at looking out for was what what has been mentioned already But it's not quite made it into the the beta But I'm sure they will be there'll be plenty more coming Coming down that we don't even know about yet as well because they've got they've got bags of ideas There have been lots of feature requests as well So I'll just say one more time if you have got any feature requests or bug reports or anything like that Make sure you are actually submitting them rather than just Bitching for want of a better word that they are not actually there or available So letting them know what they can What you know what what you want and they are very As I say very accessible and always looking to add these new things in so thank you everybody for stopping by and Joining me for this little bit of an ecang ecam geek out and I will see you in another video very soon And for those of the people that are watching on the replay, I'll leave a link to some of my Videos all about ecam over on this side. Thanks to all of the people in the chat here And thanks also to my wonderful channel members. I appreciate you all